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Moth3r said: there is a sudden change in the border on the right hand side at frame 3923-3924 (end of the overhead flyby shot). Maybe it's on the LD like that.

The bottom border jumps up and down by 1 pixel occasionally, too.

I noticed this when I made a DVD of Arnie.d's capture.  The borders changed quite a bit on that pressing too.

Thank you both.  I'm embarrassed that I didn't recognize the letters CX.

Jonno's PCM track for Star Trek II is excellent. :-)

Ah, okay.  So when it says digital sound (on the Laserdisc Database) with the boxes with a circle in one and and a cross in the other, it means PCM.  I didn't realize that because I thought that icon went with the Dolby icon next to it.  I basically knew everything else, but thanks for clearing that up. :-)

Jonno said: my tolerance for 5.1 remixes is getting thinner as I get older.

Tell me about it!

I am of course limited to digital PCM tracks here - I don't really have the resources nor inclination to go down the 5.1 AC-3 route, since they're often remixes and there are other folks on these boards who are already doing fine work on the important ones.

But you did decode the AC-3 2.0 track on the Star Trek II disc to get the PCM, didn't you?  As far as I know, there is no PCM on it.

digitalfreaknyc said:

 

There is no such thing as "dual mono."

 

What do you mean?  When mono comes in the form of a 2.0 file with two identical tracks, it is almost always referred to as dual mono.

Yes, please.  Thanks.  I'll also listen to the disc, but if it's only a matter of 1db or so my ears probably won't be good enough to notice.

I'll have to work out how to capture/rip LD audio one day.  My player has an optical out, but I believe I'm right in thinking that AC-3 is output only through the RF out and that the optical out is for PCM or DTS.

I wish I could offer some help, Jonno.  I'm very interested in this.  I have this LD, but I hadn't noticed that the audio was better than that on the BD, so I'll have another listen.

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You're planning to sync the audio to the BD, are you?

Use MKVMerge, which is part of MKVToolnix, to remux AVCHD to MKV without quality loss.

Possessed said:

I'd rather just lock this thread, I regret ever posting it.

I'm glad you did, because it's great to hear from you again, Possessed.  I would sync the BD to the edit using Avisynth, but any significant effects shots would have to be recreated.  The idea makes sense to me: you want the cut itself in HD because of how it plays out and don't care about small details, such as which Yoda is present.

chyron8472 said: can any of you tell me what Constant Quality value I should use?

That depends on what you perceive as good quality.  It varies from person to person.  You'll have to encode a few test clips and see.  Useful values range from 16 (higher quality) to 22 (lower quality).  Most people agree that a CRF of 18 looks really good and there is little point in going lower, so if you want a quick answer, use that.  This sort of question belongs in the technical help section, as it's not really specific to Harmy's release.

The new colors look really nice, Ady. :)

NeonBible said: Of he has we have not heard from him in a long time.

I love this sentence.  :-)

Yeah, ADM hasn't released anything in HD, as far as I know.

dblake83 said: I see the difference and so do others.

I doubt it, but feel free to disagree.  Wabid is correct when he says that you need comparison software to see the difference.

A 16GB file in 2013 is not large.

It's not, but it was larger than was needed for high quality.

jdryyz said:  How is it that I can get away with compressing the 16GB file down to 8GB and not notice any reduction in quality?

Higher file-size does not necessarily mean higher quality.  The MKV was much bigger than it needed to be, so your recompressed file ended up being considerably smaller.

jdryyz said: I still think that might be too much compression.  :)

It's not.  The original file-size is excessive.

Track down the AVCHD version, which is barely distinguishable from the MKV in terms of quality, and see if it plays.  That might save you some bother.

jdryyz said:  As you may have already guessed, I am using HandBrake for the re-encode.  I believe you're referring to the settings in the "Video Quality" section.  I see no reason why I couldn't try it again, but how did you determine what setting to use?

Sorry.  When you specified a BD player and an average bitrate, I assumed that you had tried unsuccessfully to remux the MKV to a BD structure and burn the result to disc, which I do recommend you try.  I knew which setting to use from experience with x264, for which Handbrake is a GUI.  If you are recompressing, I doubt that using a CRF rather than two-pass VBR would be the cause of any playback problems.

jdryyz said:  Just FYI, the rate I came up with was 20Mbps.

That's sounds about right, depending on the size of the audio and subtitle tracks you wish to retain, but consider using MeGUI's built-in bitrate calculator to find a more precise figure.  You could also try recompressing with a CRF of 16.  That should retain the quality of the original, and at 720p the result should easily fit on a BD-25.

I find it strange that an Oppo player has trouble with the file though.  Are you sure that a re-encode is necessary?

The link worked fine for me too.

By the way, thank you, Andrea. :)

Happy Christmas everybody!

guiser said:  Just curious, is there a technical reason to use the left eye stream as opposed to the right?

As I understand it, the right-eye stream is dependent on the left-eye and encodes only those pixels that are different, so the right-eye stream is not playable.  (It's probably more complicated than that:  all I really know is that the left-eye is the correct one.)

The Aluminum Falcon said:

Thanks for responding. I'll probably end up compressing it myself since I can't burn BD50s. But, uploading the uncompressed version is likely the smartest thing to do. 

If you demux the left-eye stream and remux it with the audio, the result will fit on a BD-25.  I assume that you want only the 2D version.

Congratulations on your purchase of the '87 CLV LD, which was indeed lucky.  It looks very much like the Technicolor IB, as I guessed it would.  Thanks for the screenshots.  I wonder if it's possible to color correct the BD to match the LD.

bkev said:  1. Ironically I think that's the reason they handle their classic films the way they do. Unfortunately, it only works in some cases.

You are probably right.  At least Disney made the effort to fix the video judder at 4:37, and released three versions of the film, including the theatrical (more or less).

Thank you and nirbateman for the PMs. :D

bkev said:

I thought that 3D BDs would downscale automatically on non-3D TVs, is that not the case?

The BatB 3D BD is 3D only.  You have to rip and extract the left-eye stream.

nirbateman said:

I think that if you use the Bluray ripper option on DVDFab, you don't need to extract a single file, it will rip a proper 2D image.

You might be right.  I used AnyDVDHD and eac3to.

Also, I've compared the 3D Bluray to the LD rip made by Molly, and even though the video is better than the 2D Bluray, it still doesn't come close to matching the original colors, everything is too bright and the characters still seem out of place.

I agree that the original colors are the best, but I can happily watch the film with the 3D BD's colors.  I like it as a new look, whereas I can't stand the previous color timing: it's far too red.

Where do I find the LD rip?

In respect of the 3D BD of BatB, one can extract the left-eye stream (00272.m2ts) and obtain a 2D version.  The color timing might not be the original, but it is far better than that on the 2D Blu-ray / DVD.

The Aluminum Falcon said:

• Sleeping Beauty- 2003 DVD for a better color palette (at expense of cropped picture)

Is the 2003 DVD the SE?  If so, there are comparisons here.  I'm not sure, but I think that I prefer the BD colors, and it's just so wonderful being able to see Sleeping Beauty in 2.55:1.

And here are the Pinocchio comparisons.  (Scroll down a bit.)  The colors on the 1987 CAV LD look perfect — better even than the 1997 CAV / 1999 DVD.

G-force's new color-matching script might come in very useful because applying the colors of some of the LDs to the early DVDs or those BDs that haven't been excessively DNRed could produce the best of both worlds.

AntcuFaalb said:  Sample 3

This shot looks gorgeous.

G-force, the script is incredible work.  I can't wait to give it a try.