Chewtobacca

Darth Mallwalker said:
60759 60651
64864 64771

Thanks for the corrections! I typed the list in a bit of a rush and didn’t have time to check it.

Darth Mallwalker said:
That frame (TN1 114561) is GOUT 113651

Well spotted! There’s a jump there in TN1.

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TN1 144957 is NTSC GOUT 144053

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So the list should be as follows.

42593-42604
45153-45156
55746-55750
56085
56926
58476-58479
60759
64864
70506-70507
78664
83448-83451
86658-86715
113649-113650
113652-113655
144051-144052
144054-144056
174252-174257

Molly said:

Part of me wonders if there’s 35s out there of the Greedo scene without hardsubs. </random>

The JSC doesn’t have the Greedo subs. Obviously, that was made for home video, and it’s a different situation, but I suppose that there’s a very slim chance that there might be a print out there that doesn’t have them. I doubt it though.

Unfortunately, the sound of the glass breaking is present. Moreover, Artoo makes a noise when the slaughtered Jawas are discovered, which I don’t recall being in the theatrical stereo.

^^ You two should get a thread.

I did wonder about the audio on the MKV. It sounded like the '93 mix, but I didn’t see how it could be. I look forward to the mono on the next release.

Williarob said:

If these frame numbers are accurate, I can locate and upload the raw, uncleaned frames…

Thanks, but reintegrating the missing frames is not something I have time to do myself. As you say, it is quite a bit of work.

The numbers are accurate though. I’ll send you what I sent poita.

Harmy said:
There’s definitely something to that Technicolor look though 😃

There is, and I love it, but there’s a different kind of appeal to the TN1. The blue on Artoo is lovely, and I really like some of the shots of him in the canyon. And TN1’s version is not finished in terms of color, so it’s not quite fair to compare it to other looks yet. The comparison that you posted is great for a quick fix though. 😃

towne32 said:
The Eastman and IBtech colors are two different beasts. I don’t think this release should be made to look like a Tech, as nice as the color is on those prints.

Agreed! There should be room for both looks.

Thanks! I was going to ask if you had included the five frames at the end in your reckoning. The total is 106 excluding those. I agree that 113649 is messed up but counted it as present, but I’ll add it to what I send to poita.

poita said:

If someone wants to post images of the missing frames using the GOUT as a source, I’ll see if I have those frames on film anywhere. Probably don’t, but I will check.

The list below should be right. The frame-numbers are based on the GOUT after it has been demuxed with PGCDemux and run through DGIndex with forced film selected (in other words, post-IVTC). Althor, would you mind checking them?

42593-604 (inclusive)
45153-45156 (inclusive)
55746-50 (inclusive)
56085
56926
58476-79 (inclusive)
60759
64864
70506-7
78664
83448-51 (inclusive)
86658-715 (inclusive)
113650-5 (inclusive)
144051-5 (inclusive)

Williarob said:
Perhaps it would be possible to use MKV Merge / Toolnix to generate a new container with the correct frame rate?

PM sent.

The reason for the frame-rate discrepancy is that the frame-rate of the container does not match that of the video stream. The former is wrong; the latter is right.

Thanks, althor! You beat me to it. I was going to work on a script today. 😃 I added yours to the GOUT-sync thread.

I doubt there’s anything that you can do that would make them look appreciably better. They’re a notorious mess. The NTSC DVDs are a bit better, so get them if you’ll take any improvement. Otherwise, just watch the PAL DVDs and let your TV do any deinterlacing and upscaling that is needed. Working on them is a waste of time.

CatBus said:
Ear mites, mostly.

And typical antibiotics!

crissrudd4554 said:

I guess the sames for Jaws???

Join FanRes.

I doesn’t have seamless branching.

You don’t have seamless branching? How do you mange without it?

Thanks for all the comparison videos, pittrek. Did you use AviSynth to make them? The comparison for TMP is almost like watching the film! 😄

hairy_hen said:
I made a total of 26 edits to get it into a usable condition: patching over 12 reel changes, 2 laserdisc side breaks, and 3 other spots where sync is lost (possibly because of 2:3 cadence errors in the video); as well as 8 dropouts and 1 fairly severe instance of tape distortion.

I am assume that you rip your NTSC GOUT disc and select Forced Film in DGIndex before making an index. At any rate, anomalies in the 2:3 cadence ought not to affect audio sync.

hairy_hen said:
…I hadn’t started working on anything new until Chewtobacca asked me if I had new stuff ready.

I should pester you with PMs more often. Thanks for the update! 😃 The information on the stereo mixes is interesting, and I look forward to hearing your improved stereo mix.

Great thread! Thank you.

Happy Christmas, everyone!

In a somewhat-belated response to some of the requests in this thread, I have converted the MKV version of this release to DVD. Harmy’s re-uploading it to his account so that he can keep it available in the future, but I have temporary links that I’ll delete in a week or so. PM me if you are interested.

• NTSC DVD-5
• audio: theatrical DTS → AC-3 5.1 at 448kbps
• chapter stops (from the MKV)
• no menu

The finished version of 2.0 will almost certainly be out in a few weeks, so the new DVD will be available soon enough. There’s not much point in converting the workprint.

DrDre said:
Not as far as I know…

Thanks for the reply. Let’s hope someone figures it out at some point.