Charles Threepio

Would it be possible to reconstruct the 3D version with the sources we already know about?

The smoldering bodies bit was. The Antilles thing, however, got it the PG rating completely by accident, 'twould seem.

There was also that shot of the smoldering remains of Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru. It still got a G. What convinced the MPAA to bump it up to PG on appeal was a screening for children where one of them freaked out upon seeing Captain Antilles getting asphyxiated onscreen by Darth Vader.

This is my first Star Wars project. I’ll include at least a couple of Special Edition-exclusive scenes; added/updated subtitles for Chewbacca, R2-D2, Greedo, and Jabba the Hutt; and several deleted scenes (including at least a few from the Lost Cut); but the base will be the 4K version of the 1977 release. Certain scenes will, additionally, be rearranged to match the novelization more closely. I hope to have a rough cut, without any audiovisual alterations (save for the updated Greedo and Jabba subtitles and a few for Chewbacca and R2-D2, and also a rough version of an altered closing credits sequence to acknowledge certain alterations made to this cut; also, some shots sourced from the Special Edition may be regraded to more closely match the 4K version of the 1977 release, mainly for quality improvement purposes or visual enhancements that would feel appropriate, but they won’t be regrained at first, as this rough cut is mainly for assembly purposes), ready as a preview of sorts by May the 4th Be With You (International Star Wars Day), Revenge of the Fifth (or is it Sixth?), Galactic Empire Day (20 May), or May 25.

Final details, including a more complete, polished, and formal release, will be announced later.

ETA: And yes, Han WILL shoot first this time around; that’s one Special Edition alteration that isn’t making it into this cut.

Some things I’ll suggest:

• Add a shortened Disney logo at the start and end, the former with the first half of the Williams arrangement of the Fox fanfare playing over it (the second half will play over the Lucasfilm logo as usual).
• Keep the profanity, in the franchise it’s never enough to bump any of the films up to M.
• Maybe subtitle the dialogue of Chewbacca, R2-D2, and BB-8?
• Definitely cap things off with an MPAA “white stripe” PG bumper.

What is the best setup for capturing LaserDisc audio for projects (e.g. the 1990 reissue audio track for Fantasia and the Sensurround* track for Alien)?

*True story: 20th Century-Fox experimented with Universal’s Sensurround format for Alien, but due to the advent of Dolby Stereo it was only released that way in 70mm theatres and only popped up once more, on a 1995 LaserDisc issue.

Roxas776 said:

Wouldn’t it be easier just to track down each of the edited VHS releases? I would love to contribute to this since I have a few tapes from the edited broadcast.

Your help would be much appreciated there. Thanks!

The 2000 DVD, I suppose.

The 1990 release had closing credits, unlike other releases. AFAIK the US VHS and laserdisc are the only places where said closing credits can be found.

OK, so as soon as I have all the materials gathered together, I’ll do the following with the visuals:

1. Attempt to align the 35mm footage I’ve received in digital form as closely with the Blu-ray footage as possible, and crop accordingly (hopefully, very little, if any, of the 35mm footage should be trimmed);
2. Clean up the same 35mm footage;
3. Recolor the Blu-ray footage to match the 35mm footage as closely as possible; and
4. For the 1990 theatrical version, recreate the closing credits.

My release, once complete, will consist of the uncensored roadshow version with the unedited Pastoral Symphony and as much of the original Deems Taylor audio as possible, and the 1990 theatrical version, also with the unedited Pastoral Symphony. The main audio track will be as close a recreation of the original Fantasound experience as possible, with additional tracks in mono 1.0, stereo 2.0, Dolby Stereo 4.0, and Dolby Digital 5.1.

ETA: I almost forgot to mention, apart from being the main audio source where possible, the laserdisc release will also be used as a timing reference for the 1990 theatrical version.

Could you PM me the 35mm footage you’ve got, for good measure? Thanks!

If this “perfect” edition isn’t the 1990 reissue edition with the uncensored Pastoral Symphony, I’d be much interested in making that one of my (admittedly very many) projects at some point in the near future.

TiddySprinklesPimpBillion said:

SilverWook said:

TiddySprinklesPimpBillion said:

SilverWook said:

Worth noting the 2018 Criterion Blu-Ray release of Barry Lyndon has the original mono track.

That’s expensive still.

That’s beside the point.

Wait for a sale because the company is expensive. No need for a fan edit.

You shouldn’t be rude to other users—especially not SilverWook, who doesn’t have a billion projects simultaneously running through his brain.

TiddySprinklesPimpBillion said:

Charles Threepio said:

Could someone PM me a link containing the MGM/UA and United Artists logos, the Gunbarrel, and the first few seconds of the film proper? Because I was curious to see if it’s the regular UA Swoosh instead of the zooming abstract one, and if it is, I was hoping to use it for the uncut version of AFOD instead of the recreated Transamerica Ovoid seen on the most recent release.

Don’t you have a billion projects already?

Don’t be a jackass about it, I’m simply trying to gather materials for an ongoing project.

Could someone PM me a link containing the MGM/UA and United Artists logos, the Gunbarrel, and the first few seconds of the film proper? Because I was curious to see if it’s the regular UA Swoosh instead of the zooming abstract one, and if it is, I was hoping to use it for the uncut version of AFOD instead of the recreated Transamerica Ovoid seen on the most recent release.

Just for those wondering, I never said that was it, I’m only saying that might be it.

Stay tuned. https://www.indiewire.com/2019/03/netflix-new-movies-march-2019-1202052078/

As can I, only I don’t have the laserdisc, but a rental-only tape from the same company that uses the same print.

Thanks, I’m gonna need it.

Wow, I honestly can’t believe how far behind schedule I’d gotten while waiting for more digital storage space! Anyway, production on this restoration will resume this week, after a lengthier delay than I’d expected. I honestly expected it would take a while to render each scene due to storage and other issues, but I never thought it’d take this long for me to be able to get to the next part I was planning on rendering…

ETA: Even more embarrassingly, I haven’t been able to do any work on the screenshot comparisons. I haven’t dropped anything, though! I simply got winded by outside events, is all. At any rate, even though I’ve not been able to get my hands on a 1999 DVD of AFOD to grab quality screenshots from for comparison with the other screenshots, I hope to get in touch with someone who does have the 1999 R1 DVD, so they can help me in that regard.

But anyway, now that the project’s back on, I just wanted to say I’ll also be including the text of the novelization as a special feature, assuming the postal service doesn’t screw things up like it’s been known to from time to time.

This certainly bodes well. But will it include scenes not seen on American releases since 1987? Hint, hint: “Why let them live?” All things at the right time…

The other two prequels were released in 3D—they just got one-off screenings, if that. A shame, because it’s been said the stereo quality improved with each successive prequel.

There might be some frames from the first capture attempt as well. If they look individual enough compared to the frames from the second capture, you might want to look into the possibility of adding them in at the corresponding points.

I just run such files through Blender and render them as still images, deleting every 5th frame on average as I meticulously check for duplicate frames.

trondmm said:

I’ll definately be following these projects. If you’re interested in foreign dubs, I have the original Norwegian dub for Winnie the Pooh and Tigger Too (the other two weren’t dubbed for their theatrical release). All three featurettes were also dubbed for television in the 80s. But I have not been able to find these (except for an incomplete version of “Tigger”)

Sure, thanks! BTW I just got a Spanish-dubbed cassette of Winnie the Pooh and Tigger Too released here in the States in 1986, in case someone else was planning on giving me Spanish dubs for the other featurettes as well.