Charles Threepio

The series finale of Riders of the Silver Screen last weekend on my PBS station showed a restored print of The Mechanical Monsters before the feature (which, incidentally, was a Republic oater with Wild Bill Elliott called Bordertown Gun Fighters). I could tell immediately that it was an older WB restoration and not the Mild-Mannered Edition, because while Lois’s outfit as she’s starting to fall out of one of the robots is brown (like it’s supposed to be) and not pink like in the recent restoration covered by Damn Fool Idealistic Crusader, it still uses the closing audio error endemic to the WB restorations on most of the shorts.

DarthWasabbi said:

This project seems dead in the water, and the project host ran off with the funds.
Nothing new, nothing lost.

Sour grapes, much?

If it is, leave it like it is, as David Wilcox would say.

No, this project is not dead; in fact, when I get my digital copy of the 35mm scan, I will use that as my color reference for future versions.

Yeah, it’d be in the same speed as North American film prints.

@MonkeyLizard10 I’m interested, too. Thanks!

AwesomeJ said:

RU.08 said:

There’s no “speeding up” or “slowing down” of film, it’s shot how it is. You can run the camera slow or fast and get the result that when played at 24fps you get fast or slow motion. Toy Story was rendered frame-by-frame for standard 24fps projection.

Quick question though, I know that when films are in other countries that speak English, the Region code (PAL for example) speeds/ pitches the film up on DVD and VHS. Being that this is an Australian film reel that is being scanned was the same process applied before it was given to Australian theaters or would it be the same speed as a North American reel and the speeding up/ pitching up only happens after the movie is released on DVD/ VHS in English speaking European countries? PAL is the region code for Australia as I found out.

I would think so, yes.

I’ve just donated a dollar towards this scan. It’s not much, but as you said, every little bit counts.

DTS and Dolby were at war for the digital cinema sound landscape at the time (as was SDDS); there were exclusives on all sides, with Sony (naturally) in the SDDS camp; Universal, New Line, and MGM using DTS; and Warner Bros. (with the exception of a single Steven Seagal actioner that used DTS) and Disney going with Dolby. AFAIK only Fox and Paramount used all three of the major digital sound formats at the time.

For film-out, they would most likely have sped up the footage slightly to fit within the 24fps rate of 35mm film.

I can now confirm that the first batch of releases will take place sometime in Q3, most likely in July or August. The following features will be released as part of this first batch:

HOUSE OF WAX
JURASSIC PARK
THE MAD MAGICIAN
THE WIZARD OF OZ

A trailer for the entire batch will be released sometime in July, along with individual previews, a behind the scenes look at the Inficolor production process, and fullscreen-widescreen comparisons for certain features.

ETA: I just realized that on my current MEGA plan, I can’t release very many features all at once, so I’ve pared things down quite a bit for this first batch.

Absolutely!

Are you sure you had HDR on when you capped the images?

A good Charlie Brown 4K project, for example, would be to try and restore A Charlie Brown Christmas so that, if nothing else, the original Coca-Cola sponsor tags are retained.

ThatPixarGuy said:

jay2chill1 said:

The Decimator said:

jay2chill1 said:

jolennon said:

The Toy Story change was made before the first DVD release. The original opening never made its way to digital home video, only laserdisc/vhs.

Did they reainmate the movie or restore it because it looks different from the Laserdisc

When they first released it on DVD, they did a fresh transfer from the original files. Most prints before that used the 35mm film print as seen in theaters (including the VHS that I have).

I Have the 2005 DVD which is the one I grew up with and the Laserdisc do you know what’s the difference between the 2005 Special Edition DVD and The Special Edition Blu-Ray by any chance just curious

The 2005 DVD and the Special Edition Blu-ray are very different.

The 2005 is a nearly identical transfer to the original DVD release, which was sourced from the original animation files, unlike the VHS and laserdisc. While the Special Edition Blu-ray is a re-render of the film made for the 3D release in 2009, which had a logo plastering (new Disney castle,) different colors, animation fixes, redone credits, etc.

This applies to both Toy Story 1 & 2. The 2005s are the best presentations of the original 95/99 renders (slightly higher bitrates,) while the Blu-rays are the 09 re-renders.

Ironically, apart from the updated logos and credits, the 3D version looks just like the 95 render, at least in 1’s case.

Most of them are transfers from commercially-released 3D Blu-rays. There are also a few homemade conversions, such as of THE LOST WORLD: JURASSIC PARK, that I selected to be part of the collection because of how good they looked.

The reason why I plan to upscale to 4K in addition to the Inficolor 3D encoding is so that they can look good on 4K television sets.

4:3 for fullscreen versions is because those of us who grew up in the '90s are used to the aspect ratio for home video releases and television broadcasts. All fullscreen versions will be optimized for 4:3 screens; the reason why I suggested an option for decorative bars in the first place is in case I wanted to put them within 16:9 pictures with a pan-and-scan flag, which I believe would get rid of the decorative bars on 4:3 displays.

“Widescreen” implies the original aspect ratio, I believe (e.g. 1.85:1 or 2.35:1). Occasionally, a fullscreen version will be in the original aspect ratio, such as THE WIZARD OF OZ; such releases will be anywhere between 1.33:1 and 1.37:1.

I now have a Mega account, finally, so I’ll be hosting them there as space allows. If an expired release is requested, I’ll upload it somewhere else and PM the links to the requester.

Introducing an all-new collection, an attempt to bring 3D back into vogue for the 4K era with an old 3D technology!

Remember Inficolor? No? That’s OK, you probably never even heard about it unless you lived in Europe in the early part of the last decade. Created by TriOviz, this unique anaglyphic system used custom magenta and green lenses for an improved 3D experience on 2D television sets. Mainly used for video game content, at least one DVD was made using the Inficolor method. I believe that will have to do until what time, if any, the 4K UHD Blu-ray format starts to include 3D in its specifications.

A 4K UHD Dolby Vision TV I got for Christmas will serve as my grading monitor, to ensure the 3D looks as good as it can get. Titles included in this series will be upscaled to 4K from HD sources, and all will be in 3D. HLG will be the HDR method I use for this content, and everything will be encoded in HEVC. Fullscreen versions will be 4:3, with decorative bars placed on the left and right sides of the screen.

Titles I plan to release as part of this collection include:

THE ADVENTURES OF SHARKBOY AND LAVAGIRL (fullscreen and widescreen versions, in English and Mexican Spanish)
ALICE IN WONDERLAND (widescreen only)
ALITA: BATTLE ANGEL (widescreen only, in English and Mexican Spanish)
AMITYVILLE 3D (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
ANDY WARHOL’S FRANKENSTEIN (widescreen only, adults only)
ANT-MAN (widescreen only)
APE (widescreen only)
APPETITE FOR DEMOCRACY (widescreen only)
AVATAR (widescreen only, select scenes presented at 48 FPS)
AVATAR: THE WAY OF WATER (widescreen only, presented at 48 FPS)
THE AVENGERS (widescreen only)
AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON (widescreen only)
THE BAD GUYS (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
BALLERINA (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
BATTLE FOR TERRA (widescreen only)
BEAUTY AND THE BEAST (widescreen only)
BEOWULF (widescreen only, adults only)
BLACK WIDOW: AN IMAX 3D EXPERIENCE (widescreen only)
BRAVE (widescreen only)
CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER (widescreen only)
CARS (widescreen only)
CARS 2 (widescreen only)
CARS 3 (widescreen only)
CASPER THE FRIENDLY GHOST: BOO MOON (fullscreen only)
A CHRISTMAS CAROL (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
CLOUDY WITH A CHANCE OF MEATBALLS (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
COCO (widescreen only)
COMIN’ AT YA! (widescreen only)
CORALINE (widescreen only)
CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON (widescreen only)
DESPICABLE ME (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
DESPICABLE ME 2 (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
DESPICABLE ME 3 (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
DIAL M FOR MURDER (widescreen only)
THE DIAMOND WIZARD (widescreen only)
DOCTOR STRANGE: AN IMAX 3D EXPERIENCE (widescreen only)
DOCTOR STRANGE AND THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS: AN IMAX 3D EXPERIENCE (widescreen only)
DONALD DUCK: WORKING FOR PEANUTS (fullscreen only)
DUNE (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
THE FINAL DESTINATION (widescreen only)
FINAL DESTINATION 5 (widescreen only)
FINDING DORY (widescreen only)
FINDING NEMO (widescreen only)
THE FLESH AND BLOOD SHOW (widescreen only)
FRIDAY THE 13TH PART III (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
FROZEN (fullscreen and widescreen versions, in English and Japanese, titles in Japanese in the Japanese version)
FROZEN FEVER (fullscreen and widescreen versions, in English and Japanese)
FROZEN II (fullscreen and widescreen versions, in English and Japanese)
GHOSTS OF THE ABYSS (widescreen only)
THE GLASS WEB (widescreen only)
THE GOOD DINOSAUR (widescreen only)
GRAVITY (widescreen only)
THE GREAT GATSBY (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
THE GRINCH (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY: AN IMAX 3D EXPERIENCE (widescreen only)
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL. 2: AN IMAX 3D EXPERIENCE (widescreen only)
GUN FURY (widescreen only)
HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON 2 (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON: THE HIDDEN WORLD (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
HOUSE OF WAX (fullscreen only)
HUGO (widescreen only)
I, THE JURY (widescreen only)
ICE AGE: COLLISION COURSE (widescreen only)
ICE AGE: CONTINENTAL DRIFT (widescreen only)
ICE AGE: DAWN OF THE DINOSAURS (widescreen only)
THE INCREDIBLES 2 (widescreen only)
INSIDE OUT (widescreen only)
IRON MAN 3 (widescreen only)
IT CAME FROM OUTER SPACE (widescreen only)
JAWS 3D (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
JOURNEY 2: THE MYSTERIOUS ISLAND (widescreen only)
JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH (widescreen only)
JURASSIC PARK (widescreen only)
KISS ME KATE (widescreen only)
KUNG FU PANDA (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
KUNG FU PANDA 2 (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
KUNG FU PANDA 3 (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
THE LEGEND OF HERCULES (widescreen only)
THE LORAX (fullscreen and widescreen versions, in English and Mexican Spanish)
THE LOST WORLD: JURASSIC PARK (widescreen only)
THE MAD MAGICIAN (widescreen only)
MAN IN THE DARK (fullscreen only)
THE MAN WHO WASN’T THERE (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
MEGAMIND (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
METALLICA: THROUGH THE NEVER (widescreen only)
METALSTORM: THE DESTRUCTION OF JARED-SYN (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
MICHAEL JACKSON’S THIS IS IT (widescreen only)
MINIONS (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
MINIONS: THE RISE OF GRU (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
MISS SADIE THOMPSON (widescreen only)
MONEY FROM HOME (widescreen only)
MONSTERS INC. (widescreen only)
MONSTERS UNIVERSITY (widescreen only)
MONSTERS VS. ALIENS (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
MY BLOODY VALENTINE (widescreen only)
THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS (widescreen only)
ONWARD (widescreen only)
OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
PACIFIC RIM (widescreen only)
PARASITE (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
PINA (widescreen only)
THE PIRATES! IN AN ADVENTURE WITH SCIENTISTS (widescreen only)
PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: ON STRANGER TIDES (widescreen only)
PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: SALAZAR’S REVENGE (widescreen only)
POKéMON: DETECTIVE PIKACHU (fullscreen and widescreen versions, in English and Castilian Spanish)
THE POLAR EXPRESS: AN IMAX 3D EXPERIENCE (widescreen only)
PUSS IN BOOTS (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
PUSS IN BOOTS: THE LAST WISH (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
RATATOUILLE (widescreen only)
READY PLAYER ONE (widescreen only)
REVENGE OF THE CREATURE (widescreen only)
REVENGE OF THE SHOGUN WOMEN (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
ROBOT MONSTER (aspect ratio to be determined)
SANGAREE (widescreen only)
SAW 3D (widescreen only, adults only)
THE SECRET LIFE OF PETS (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
THE SECRET LIFE OF PETS 2 (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
SHREK (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
SHREK 2 (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
SHREK FOREVER AFTER (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
SHREK THE THIRD (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
SILENT MADNESS (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
SING (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
SING 2 (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
SOUL (widescreen only)
SPY KIDS 3D: GAME OVER (fullscreen and widescreen versions, in English and Mexican Spanish)
TANGLED (fullscreen and widescreen versions)
TEKKEN: BLOOD VENGEANCE (widescreen only, in English and Japanese)
TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY (widescreen only, in English and Castilian Spanish, select scenes presented at 48 FPS, special edition footage in 2D)
THOR (widescreen only)
THOR: THE DARK WORLD (widescreen only)
THE THREE STOOGES: BRIDELESS GROOM (fullscreen only)
THE THREE STOOGES: DISORDER IN THE COURT (fullscreen only)
THE THREE STOOGES: MALICE IN THE PALACE (fullscreen only)
THE THREE STOOGES: PARDON MY BACKFIRE (widescreen only)
THE THREE STOOGES: SING A SONG OF SIX PANTS (fullscreen only)
THE THREE STOOGES: SPOOKS (widescreen only)
TINKERBELL: THE SECRET OF THE WINGS (widescreen only)
TITANIC (widescreen only, select scenes presented at 48 FPS)
TOY STORY (widescreen only, in English and Mexican Spanish, selected titles in Spanish in Mexican Spanish version)
TOY STORY 2 (widescreen only)
TOY STORY 3 (widescreen only)
TOY STORY 4 (widescreen only)
TREASURE OF THE FOUR CROWNS (widescreen only)
TRON: LEGACY: AN IMAX 3D EXPERIENCE (widescreen only, select scenes presented at 60 FPS)
UP (widescreen only)
THE WIZARD OF OZ: AN IMAX 3D EXPERIENCE (fullscreen only)
THE WOLVERINE (widescreen only, unrated footage in 2D)

The first few among them, all to be named at a later date, I expect to have ready sometime this summer. Those interested can buy their own Inficolor specs on Amazon.

P.S. For those wondering why a title they want to see in 3D, such as ENCANTO or JAWS, is not listed, it’s likely because a home 3D release never took place, though we can hope for eventual home 3D releases of titles yet to be available in 3D, especially if they looked impressive with that added dimension. Particularly lazy 3D conversions, such as CLASH OF THE TITANS and THE LAST AIRBENDER, will also not be featured, nor will titles such as HONDO and MAGNIFICENT BODYGUARD that are available only in an anaglyphic format as opposed to one that can easily be encoded in any 3D format. Homemade 3D conversions such as THE LOST WORLD: JURASSIC PARK may make the cut if they look good enough, but not if they’re lazy to the point where one eye is simply a horizontally-shifted copy of the other eye, as is the case with JURASSIC PARK III.

Pretty much, yeah.

“Honey Tree” has a few small trims on most pre-Storybook Classics video releases (save for the US Spanish version), which I’m guessing were sourced from a television print. Most noticeable when Rabbit reacts to Pooh noticing honey in Samuel J. Gopher’s lunchbox. In the complete version, you can briefly see him leaning into the interaction before he reacts in horror at what’s about to happen; however, in the trimmed releases, he’s already in his horrified expression when it cuts to him.

Actually, they are in some home versions. Even the 3D Blu-ray, unless I’m mistaken, has them as a special feature, because I know a true 3D version is floating around on the web somewhere, having seen it for myself.

TLDR

Have you tried 4K83? Just wondering.

I don’t think so, no, which would probably explain why “When Love Is Gone” was restored for the initial home video release but that third verse wasn’t.

I believe it added a third and final verse leading up to “You will be haunted by three spirits!”

I have the MGM DVD. If you like, I’ll send you the video without audio via DM, and then once I acquire the 1999 Warner DVD, I’ll send you the audio track as well.