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Schorman’s HDTV preservations, which he just released a V2 of!

His TPM is the same as the 2001 DVD cut, though - every HD 1999 theatrical restoration seems to stall and never get released.

His AOTC is the DVD cut, but it’s the closest we’ll get to the theatrical cut without finding a DCP of the digital version or scanning a 35mm print of the film version.

Also, he’s made an actual theatrical restoration of ROTS, but the only difference between that and his HDTV is the restoration of a missing wipe transition and the inclusion of the theatrical DTS audio. He’s said he’ll be updating this with a V2 soon using his V2 HDTV.

The Blu-Ray of ROTS is almost theatrical, too - it includes the missing wipe, but also adds moss to the rooftops on Kashyyyk and some new sound effects to the clone troopers attacking on Utapau.

There it is! That’s the one!

Incremental improvements are often the difference between something that works for a fan edit and something that is completely seamless and looks/sounds like it always belonged.

And I do think the slower version is an improvement. It’s pretty close to seamless now, I think.

Interesting. Guess they’re just trying to clear as much old stock as possible, and might still be trying to push the 3D set by keeping that disc exclusive to it.

That’s pretty damn good! I think the awkwardly quick “mother” line reading would play better if there was a little bit more of a pause afterward, too.

“Your mother … once thought as you do.”

Like he’s being somewhat reflective for a beat, you know?

Fang Zei said:

I wonder if TFA is the original release or the one from the 3D combo that has the Abrams commentary.

That’s actually a good question. Anyone have photos of the backs of the covers?

Well, yeah, if you already own the Blu-Rays, why bother buying a repackaged copy of the same discs?

StarkillerAG said:

I don’t get why people are saying the battle droid head is so subtle. It’s the biggest thing in the frame. If everyone else likes it I’ll shut up, but for me it’s just distracting.

It’s definitely not the biggest thing in the frame, that would easily still be R5, who is also still bright enough to draw the eye immediately. In motion you don’t even notice the battle droid unless you’re looking for it.

Repackaged re-releases with no fanfare are super common nowadays, though. Just look at all the repackaged MCU Blu-Rays that have come out over the past year or so with the ugly matching covers.

schorman13 said:

I’ve already taken care of the video, but I wanted to wait to post until I could update the audio portion a bit.

Ooh, that’s nice to hear!

Well, the quotes from Iger’s new book seem a little more damning than past reporting, but it does also paint a picture of George kinda just throwing a hissy fit because they decided not to use his outlines and being unwilling to judge the final result of TFA on its own merit.

Weird question perhaps, but would you be willing to update your ROTS “theatrical reconstruction” with your new HDTV v2.0? I don’t know how much of your ROTS v2.0 has changed from v1.0, so I’m not sure if it would even be a worthwhile upgrade.

Yeah, I think it sounds excellent now! Very much in favor of using this in future ROTJ edits, whether Ady chooses to incorporate it or not.

I think he said he’s not doing the AOTC style plans because of Rogue One, actually, but I might be misremembering.

paja said:

So I ended up watching a playthrough of MGS (Orignal) since I can’t get into the top-down gameplay. [Link to playthrough] https://youtu.be/VKzUk6RNrrU

After I finished that I’ll be buying the ‘HD Collection’ then so on.

Note: Awhile ago I was thinking of getting a SNES Classic so I could softmod it to run ps1 games, but I changed my mind and got a PS1 classic and softmod that instead.

Oh, okay, I wasn’t sure what you meant about the SNES thing.

Mind you, MGS2 is still pretty “top down” gameplay-wise, though the addition of a first-person aiming mechanic might help for you. MGS3 in the HD Collection is the Subsistence version with the more modern camera, though.

Okay, I’ll actually go into some detail.

The biggest problem with Twin Snakes is the addition of MGS2 mechanics without altering the level design in any way, shape, or form. This breaks the game and makes it laughably easy - the levels were never designed to allow for firing a weapon in first person or hanging from railings.

But the other major problem is the cutscenes, which add a ton of absurd Matrix-y crap that breaks the atmosphere of the game. Snake should not do a kickflip off a missile in midair. Fuck that.

Basically, telling someone to play Twin Snakes instead isn’t like telling someone to play the Final Fantasy X PS4 remaster, which doesn’t alter cutscenes or add game mechanics that the game was never intended to accommodate.

Telling someone to play Twin Snakes first is like telling someone to make the conscious decision watch the 2011 Blu-Ray SE of Star Wars instead of the original version because the 1977 effects are dated.

Jesus Christ, please don’t do that. Twin Snakes is cancer.

And I say that as someone who bought a GameCube just for Twin Snakes.

paja said:

When I eventually play the MGS games, I’m thinking of playing them this way.

METAL GEAR SOLID - (SNES CLASSIC - Emulation) OR PC
METAL GEAR SOLID 2-3 - XBOX 360
METAL GEAR SOLID 4 - GAME MOVIE?
METAL GEAR SOLID PW - 360
METAL GEAR SOLID Ground Zeroes - PS4
METAL GEAR SOLID 5 - PS4

Just saw this - SNES classic for a PlayStation 1 game…?

FYI, MGS2 and 3 are best played on a PS2 or PS3 due to their liberal use of pressure controls on the face buttons, which the 360 can’t do. And if you go PS2, make sure you get the Subsistence version of MGS3 for the superior camera.

Also, a “game movie” for 4 is just…no. Play it properly.

Basically, get the cheapest PS3 you can find and the Legacy Collection for 1-4. This also includes Peace Walker. And if the digital code for 1 is expired/used already, you can just get a secondhand PS1 copy since all PS1 games work on any model of PS3.

The PC port of MGS1 isn’t bad, though. At least, from what I remember.

As in, at this point it feels creepy to me how people are borderline stalking the guy.

If he had news to share, he’d share it.

Well, the biggest (non-CGI-related) problem with the Jabba scene was, when it was cut, they changed the dialogue in the Greedo scene to relay the small amount of information that was originally only in the Jabba scene, down to lifting full audio clips of Ford’s dialogue from the Jabba scene into the Greedo scene (“Even I get boarded sometime. Do you think I had a choice?”)

But when they added the Jabba scene back in, they didn’t revert the Greedo scene to its original state, which means the Jabba scene now does…nothing. Everything’s already been conveyed in the Greedo scene, and now we have not just repeated dialogue in the revised Greedo subtitles, but full-on repeated audio takes in Ford’s dialogue across both scenes.

You need to either keep the Jabba scene out, or put it back in and restore the Greedo scene back to the dialogue it had in the shooting script.

This thread has become weirdly voyeuristic…

Agreed, I’m really liking all of those!

If you’re looking at the first post, those frames are almost certainly very outdated.

This page of his 4K77 regrade thread has Dre’s most recent work on it, which will be applied to a future release of 4K77 once he’s finished.

Yep, pretty much.

Plus, you know, all the extra Special Editionizing of the Blu-Ray.

TPM’s HDTV is extremely flawed, though. But it’s flawed in different ways than the Blu-Ray.