ChainsawAsh

I did! :-)

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-The-Trilogy/topic/10122/

I still need to update the logos to fix the outline-thickness issue, and I've had a shit-ton of other work on my plate so that project is shelved until the end of the semester anyway.

Octorox said:

I hate how everyone changes the pan in AOTC. That it was reversed was one of the truly poetic aspects to that movie. The idea is that the universe in AOTC is somewhat "flipped" from it's state in the conventional Star Wars movies. We don't know who the good guys are and who the bad guys are. It's a curious oddity and it establishes that something isn't quite right. Flipping the shot is dumbing down the movie IMO and ruining a really poetic moment.

I think it was a cheap gimmick to try to set it apart from the other films.  Which kinda worked, I guess, since it's the worst of all of them (not counting the Clone Wars movie).  And I don't think you can dumb AOTC down much more than it already is.

TheBoost said:

ChainsawAsh said:

 

But back to ROTJ - there are a LOT of inconsistencies in that movie in relation to ANH/ESB:

- Darth Vader's super-shiny suit
- Boba Fett's armor

 

 Isn't it simply concievable that in the year or so since ESB Vader cleaned his armor, and Fett modified/fixed/upgraded/tweaked/gained-weight-and-had-it-adjusted his armor?

Sure, it's conceivable.  That doesn't mean it doesn't bug the shit out of me anyway.  You can either be consistent with sequels, or change something that wasn't fucked up to begin with, letting people come up with their own in-universe explanations as to why it's changed.

Bad example perhaps, but one that's stuck with me since I first saw it in theaters - the neuralyzers in Men in Black II.  Why the hell were they blue?!  Sure, you can say that they're upgraded, a new model, but why couldn't they have just left them red for consistency's sake?

Oh, and Fett's armor isn't an upgrade issue, it's a color issue for me.  There's too much red trim on his ROTJ suit that was a shade of green on his ESB suit.

oh_riginal said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Well, we don't want him using the exact same sounds over and over again, do we?  We don't want another Boussh on our hands.

 

Its one thing to have different sounds that are consistent with what came before, but its quite another to have an entirely new type of sound altogether.

Its like if Yoda suddenly spoke proper english, or the Millennium Falcon suddenly started sounding like an airliner.

On that note, even the lightsabers sound a little different in ROTJ. I realize I have issues with the sound in ROTJ....

It's funny you bring up Yoda, because in each movie he speaks in progressively more broken English.  It's not bad at all in ESB, he only speaks in "Yoda-speak" about 50-60% of the time.  ROTJ it's a little more, TPM about 75%, AOTC even more and the grand daddy of them all, from ROTS:

"Not if anything to say about it I have!"

Ugh.  Shoot me.  If there's any way Ady can re-jig some of Yoda's PT dialogue to seem a little less gimmicky, that'd be fantastic.

But back to ROTJ - there are a LOT of inconsistencies in that movie in relation to ANH/ESB:

- Imperial rank insignia
- Darth Vader's super-shiny suit
- Darth Vader's lightsaber hilt
- C-3PO's midsection wiring
- Boba Fett's armor

And I'm sure many others I haven't noticed, like Artoo's voice.

vbangle said:

C3PX said:

Bravo! Another pointless and poorly thought out post from vbangle!

 

How the hell would it be advertising for TR-47, when this is the very place you can get that stuff for free?

It is like a employee working at a public library telling a patron about a place that rents books out for money. What customer is going to say, "OMG!!! Screw checking out books for free from the library! I going to go pay $2 a day to rent them!!!"

 

You really might ought to assess your own intelligence before harshly accusing others of being stupid.

 

... waits for vbangles sarcastic self righteous comeback

Maybe you should look again? Its a online classified ad where TR-47 is SELLING his shit....Please tell me you aren't that fucking stupid C3PX?

 

Case in point: He's selling what he calls the Star Wars Ultimate Supplemental DVD Col.  His price is $25.00. The little squiggly thing with a line through it is the symbol for dollars, not fairy kisses.....

 

Dam you are a moron. And oh yeah go fuck yourself.

 

...waits for C3PX to further embarrass himself...

...you just completely validated C3PX's point there, buddy.

In his analogy, OT.Com is the free library where TR47's site is the place you have to pay for.

You also don't need to be a dick that treats everyone else like they're inferior.

Well, we don't want him using the exact same sounds over and over again, do we?  We don't want another Boussh on our hands.

oh_riginal said:

ChainsawAsh said:

What's wrong about them?  I've never noticed.

 

How could you NOT notice how different R2 sounded in ROTJ compared to ANH, ESB, TPM, AOTC, and ROTS?

Because I was 6 when I first saw it, and have been used to it ever since.  I didn't know it was that obvious.  Sorry.

A bit later than I hoped, but here's my "Dark Force Rising" list, part one:

- Title Page: The "R" in "rising" needs to be capitalized, as it's a title (same on the next page)
- Same "Five years after the Battle of Endor" thing as in HTTE on the next page
- Opening crawl: The last paragraph feels clunky.  My suggestion:

Betrayed by smuggler Talon Karrde
and defeated at Sluis Van, GRAND
ADMIRAL THRAWN waits patiently
at the planet Myrkr for Karrde to
make his last mistake.... (<again, four periods instead of three)

- Page 9: "Continue the research!" should be "Continue the search!"
- Page 21: The text box translating the computer's Aurebesh has very small writing.  I don't know what can be done about this, really, but as it is it really sucks to try and read.
- Page 33: If Thrawn will be delivering this message to C'Baoth personally, why does he say "Tell Master C'Baoth?"  Change it to "I've decided to give the Noghri one last chance.  I'll personally deliver C'Baoth that message."  Later, Thrawn says "Keep the pressure up" - this feels a little awkward.  I say change it to "Keep pressing him."
- Page 34: I think this was in the original, but either way it's an incredibly stupid non sequiter: "You see that moon, my dears?  That's Endor - where the Rebel Alliance triumphed over the Empire - and the New Republic began."  First, Endor was the gas planet, they were on its forest moon.  Second, the line just feels ... unnecessary.  Who the hell is she talking to, anyway?  Like Chewie and Threepio weren't on Endor's moon?  If it's really necessary to establish this, put a text box in the first panel saying "Endor - the forest moon," or something.  But I don't even think that's necessary.

I stopped on page 42 for today.  This comic is set up and organized extremely poorly, making it a bit of a chore to read, and the adaptation is choppy to say the least.  Neither of those things are even remotely your fault - the blame for that lies on Mike Baron, Terry Dodson, Bob Cooper and David Land.

What's wrong about them?  I've never noticed.

vaderios said:

ChainsawAsh said:

That's actually After Effects CS4 if I'm not mistaken (I'm using it right now to finish a school project)

I was referring the one that is minimized ;)

-Angel

Seriously?  I can't read a damn thing on that taskbar ... impressive ...

ben_danger said:

have you ever considered doing ROTJ:R last though? so at the end of the entire project, the final chapter, ie ROTJ:R would benefit from all the experience you would have gathered?

AAAH!! NO!!  I don't know what I'd do ... I'd have OT withdrawal while sitting through 6 years of PT Revisiteds!

Not that I'm not looking forward to those, but as I don't really feel any form of prequel trilogy is entirely necessary, I'd much rather have the original trilogy sitting on my shelf looking nice long before Ady starts work on the PT.

In fact, I'd suggest he take a nice, long break after ROTJ:R before diving into the PT.  A nice breather between trilogies.

vaderios said:

Thats good!

Cant wait for the space battle then.

 

Back to ESB:R now :)

Ady: Photoshop CS2 sucks! CS3 man Cs3!

-Angel

That's actually After Effects CS4 if I'm not mistaken (I'm using it right now to finish a school project)

Death Star explodes, then we hear a faint "... I guess we're through, huh?"

It didn't feel like a cop-out to me.

I think Richard is the only one who can help him because he's the only one who knows how to do whatever the hell it is he does.  This would help explain why Richard never ages, as well - maybe he uses part of himself to heal Ben somehow?  I have a feeling it will be explained in greater detail soon.

And I don't think the Others have the ability to alter memory, I think it's just a side effect of what Richard does.

Get DVD Rebuilder Pro - it's what I used to convert my GOUT set, and it works beautifully.  Just one box to check and that's it.

doubleofive said:

It's "Gaff" from Blade Runner, yes.  Also played "Bill Adama" in Battlestar Galactica (2003).  We should totally insert him into RotJ as an A-wing pilot.  That would be the most awesome thing ever.

Yes.

Come on guys, don't negate everything I just said about this place!  Can't we all just get along?

Apparently Photobucket *can* handle it.  ROTJ:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/chainsawash/trg23.jpg?t=1238693277

And the ESB I used:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/chainsawash/esb24pg.jpg?t=1238693351

Note that the standard version of that poster does not include Yoda, but the VHS cover did, so I used that version.

--edit--

It appears we have the exact same ESB JPEG.  I probably should have looked at yours before I uploaded mine.

InfoDroid said:

Well, we've never needed a nanny here at OT.  As long as I've been around, (and despite the aforementioned negative tendancies I've observed) people have been been pretty mature and decent to each other for the most part, compared to other boards.

VERY true.  I was lucky enough to find this board a long time ago, one of the first online forums I actually participated in.  Since then, I've never found one that had members like this, that respect each other enough not to act like they're better than anyone else or launch personal attacks just because of a simple difference of opinion.  We actually have constructive discussions on here - I can't say the same for any other forum I know of.

There are exceptions, naturally, but thankfully such exceptions are very rare here.

Goddamn this dorm Internet ... it was blazing fast before spring break, now it keeps timing out ... guess they've figured me out, eh?

Really looking forward to it once it's done, though!

Ziz said:

Now I have to figure out how to use torrent clients.

uTorrent.  That's all you need to know.  :-)

Ah, right - I'll do that tomorrow.  My ROTJ one was taken from a poster that had all the credits and the title in a square on the left, and the poster with a clean bottom on the right.  It's not particularly high-res - the most high-res one I had was ESB until you posted that ANH one.

I got all of mine from a post somewhere in this thread, that had (I believe) a ZIP file of posters from all 6 movies.  (It might also have been in the High-res Posters thread, I don't remember anymore)

Can you recommend a good (free) place to upload a high-res image (1638x1366, 308 KB)?  The only one I've ever used is Photobucket, and I don't think that would work there.

Thank you VERY much for that scan, satanika!  Artoo is slightly cut off, but the quality difference is so huge I can live with it easily.

Any suggestions on the special features sections?  Leave them as is?  Get rid of them?  Move them?  Put a subtle border around them?

Thanks for those - I'll be using the second one most likely, though it has some pretty intense JPEG compression artifacts.

I left out the overlaid starfield from the VHS box intentionally - I thought it looked terrible.

You mean the poster?  That's a problem with the original one I used - it's the highest-res one I could find, though.  I tried to touch it up a bit to make it look more like the VHS cover.  The ESB/ROTJ VHS sleeves weren't color-altered like SW was, interestingly, so I didn't alter those two at all (except in size).  I'll see what I can do to make it less contrasty.

New Star Wars covers (I'm toying with the "Special Features" part - I wanted to get feedbck before I decide if it should stay or go):

I couldn't find any of the images for ESB's back, so I replaced them all.  With ROTJ, I couldn't find the big image, so I replaced that.  And since I replaced those two, I also replaced SW's, because the one I was using was very low-res.  I also raised the brightness and lowered the contrast on the large background images to help text readability (easily reverted to its previous form).  The spine image for SW was also changed because I couldn't find the original.

The ESB text block also needs to be fixed (it's slightly too high right now).  And ROTJ's UPC code needs to be replaced with the correct one (NTSC GOUT UPCs were what I used for the first two, I just forgot for ROTJ).  And if I remove the "Special Features" part, I'll change the position of the Vader image on ESB to help make it balance out better (that's actually why I did the features part anyway, because ESB had so much dead space at the bottom).

Thoughts? Suggestions?  Any are welcomed - they'll be uploaded at full res when they're done and polished.