ChainsawAsh

Jedi Temple34 said:

 

Guess what I tried the download and the FLV opens up and sod all happens! sigh

No I’d sooner have DVD that works I have short tolerance for downloading LOL I mean I waited 21 minutes!

 

 

Alright.  I'm not trying to be an asshole, but what you seem to be saying here is, "I'm too lazy to download the file and make the DVD, so someone do it for me and send it to me!"  That's not really the way things work around here.

If I were you, I'd wait until Dark_Jedi finishes with his new DVDs, then download those, or see if someone would be kind enough to send them to you.

... what?

It seems like your first sentence is asking what qualifies Hairy_Hen to be able to accurately recreate the 70mm Dolby six-track mix.  That's simple.  He has access to an in-theater recording of the 70mm mix, which he can use to compare what was and what wasn't in that mix.

Since all research that has been done points to the 1993 mix being a fold-down of the Dolby six-track mix with added effects, he used that as a base, then used the 1977 theatrical stereo mix (taken from laserdisc) to replace the parts in the 1993 mix that have added sound effects.

He then had Satanika upmix this track (which was in stereo) to a 5.0 mix.  Then, using a combination of the 1997 SE laserdisc 5.1, the 2004 DVD 5.1, and the 1993 stereo mix, he created a brand-new hybrid LFE track for the film that attempts to recreate the LFE of the 70mm mix as faithfully as possible.  He then added that to the 5.0 upmix, and voila - a 5.1 Dolby Digital recreation of the 1977 Dolby six-track mix!

Obviously, this isn't perfect, for a few reasons:

1) The 5.1 mix has a center, front right, front left, surround right, and surround left channel, as well as one LFE channel.  However, the 1977 six-track mix had three front channels (R, C, L, same as the 5.1 mix), but only one rear surround channel (compared to the two rear surround channels of the 5.1 mix).  Also, the 1977 six-track mix had two LFE channels.  In other words, it was a 4.2 mix, not a 5.1 mix.

2) Because he was working from an in-theater audio recording made by a fan, there's no way of knowing where certain sound effects would have been placed, or exactly how much LFE would have been present at which time.

3) The 1977 stereo mix, which was used to fill the gaps in the 1993 mix where new sound effects were added, has less dynamic range than the 1993 mix does.  Therefore, someone with sharp ears will be able to tell the difference between the two sources.  Plus, it's likely that the 1977 stereo mix differs slightly from the 1977 70mm six-track mix, so those parts, while more "original" than the 1993 mix, may not be exactly what they should be for the Dolby six-track mix.

So, while it's not THE Dolby six-track mix, it's damn close, and a very impressive listening experience in its own right, especially for the custom-made LFE track, which kicks the 2004 5.1 mix's ass.  Hard.

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Now, your second sentence seems like you're asking Hairy_hen to send you three free DVD copies of the movie with the 5.1 mix.  The post you quoted has the download links for the 5.1 mix itself, which (I would assume) is all that Hairy_hen is going to give out.

Dark_Jedi, however, will soon be releasing version 3 of his custom-made theatrical cut DVDs, which will include hairy_hen's 5.1 mixes.

So you have three options:

1) Download the 5.1 AC3 file and make a DVD of your own using the video 2006 DVD (1977 theatrical disc, obvioulsy)

2) PM someone who already has made a copy and see if they'll be nice enough to send one your way

3) Wait for Dark_Jedi to finish with his V3 DVD set, and get it from him, or from someone who will be getting it from him.

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Sorry if I misread your post - if I have, disregard mine.

Bingowings said:

Slightly off topic but if you Holmes fans get a chance I'd recommend the BBC's new contemporaryish (alternate universe without the fictional Holmes) updating called Sherlock.

Which is written by Steven Moffat, current showrunner of Doctor Who!

That's the one I have, the Angrysvn edition.  I dunno where to find it now, probably Pirate Bay or Demonoid.  There may be seeds left on Myspleen, too.

There's a THX 1138 theatrical LD rip floating around - single-layer, non-anamorphic, and it doesn't look terribly great, but hey, it's the theatrical cut!

Don't know about American Graffiti.  I feel like that one would be pretty easy to "de-SE," as it were, since (IIRC) there's only one shot that's been changed.

Woo-hoo!  I'm incredibly excited!

Any word on the possibility of releasing the uncompressed WAVs of the '80, '83, and '85 audio mixes?

Oh yeah, God of War as a movie would be pretty badass!  Good call there.

Aliens - 1986 Theatrical Cut.

For some reason, I'd never seen the theatrical cut of Aliens, just the '91 Special Edition.  I have to say, overall ... I prefer the theatrical cut.

Not because most of the added scenes don't benefit the film.  They do.  The sentry gun sequence is thrilling, the more explicit mother/daughter subplot between Ripley and Newt is touching, and there's generally a little more breathing room.

However, after seeing the theatrical cut, I now have one huge problem with the Special Edition.  The scenes of the colonists on LV-426 before the alien attack.

Sure, it's nice to see the colonists before they're all wiped out.  Sure, it's nice to get a little family background on Newt.  Sure, it's nice to know that she plays hide-and-seek in the ducts, and that's how she's so used to the small spaces in the city that she was able to hide from the aliens for weeks.

But those scenes absolutely kill any and all suspense that you get when the Marines reach the base.  There's no what the fuck happened here moment in the viewer's mind because, well, we already know what happened.  No, we weren't shown how the colony was completely wiped out, but we know that an alien was definitely brought in, and we can quickly connect the dots from there, so we can come up with a pretty good idea of what the Marines are going to find when they go into the colony.

I don't know why Cameron decided to put those scenes back in.  The Special Edition would be fucking perfect if everything else about it were the same, but the scenes with the colonists remained out.

Anyway, it's still an immensely awesome movie.  One of my favorites.

The new DVD of the movie is being released in the first "Revisitations" box set, along with rereleases of The Talons of Weng-Chiang and The Caves of Androzani.

I don't know about R1 releases of the other two, but the TV movie is almost certainly going to be R2-only (all those rights issues), and it will only be available in the box set.

I'd love to see this for any/all Metal Gear game(s).  Or Mass Effect (though that'd be a bitch).

I agree!  The removal of the brother/sister plot and the removal of the Ewoks would help ROTJ tremendously.

Not a big fan of Empire's spine logo.  I don't like the split horizontal(vertical) bars.

Other than that, they're fantastic!  Excellent work!

Why?  I like 3.  It's stupid and goofy, but it's goddamn hilarious.

2 and 4 are terrible, though.

Warbler said:

From the ads, the movie looks weird to me.  

It's weird because there's never been a movie quite like it before.  Which can be intimidating, but honestly, it's not that hard to follow.  Sure, it's a puzzle, but if you're paying attention, you won't be lost.  Part of the fun of the movie is trying to put the puzzle together as you watch it.

That's why I want to see it again so badly - the first time is all about the cerebral aspect of it, while (I felt) I missed out on a lot of the emotional aspect.  I want to see it again to get that, since I already have the puzzle put together in my mind - this time I get to see the puzzle, instead of the pieces.

I cried during the last 15 minutes of Toy Story 3.  I was 6 when the first one came out, so I grew up with the characters, and my brother is getting ready to go to college just like Andy.  It definitely struck a few emotional chords with me.

Right.  To bring this thread back on topic ...

I saw Inception last night.  Holy fuckballs.  Easily my favorite of the year so far.

The thing I love most about it is that the whole thing feels so damn different, even though it uses a lot of familiar things.  At its core, it's a heist film with a lot of gun fighting and chases.  But it adds another layer on top of this one, supremely different from anything that has been done before in film.  The meld of the two keeps it from being inaccessible by including those familiar elements, while changing these familiar elements into something fresh.

It also really works your brain, because the movie really feels like three or four different stories overlaid on top of each other, and trying to keep track of all these stories - while far from impossible - really works your brain in ways it probably hasn't had to work before, certainly not from any summer blockbuster.

If Nolan keeps up this formula (make one hugely-successful "studio" movie, then make one for himself), he'll be the Ridley Scott of our generation that could do something Scott never could: Make both the "studio" films and his personal films wildly successful.  And keep the studio heads from fucking with his movies.

10/10.  If he never makes Batman Begins III, I'll be fine with it as long as he keeps making movies like Inception.

No, that's been moved into its own forum.  It's certainly not dead.

That'd be interesting.  Loose Cannon has done some great recon work with Doctor Who stories that have basically no surviving anything (beyond the soundtrack) by compositing different existing images together.

The hard[est] part would be getting the soundtrack together.

I still have yet to see Rocky Balboa.  Any good?  I enjoyed the first two, thought three and four were entertaining yet forgettable, and thought five was just plain bad.

Bingowings said:

It would have been so much better if Michael had cut Anthony's hand off, tortured Mary and had frozen Vincent into a block of ice.

Then in Godfather 4 he could have thrown the new Pope down a well.

Not saying anything like that, I'm just saying that III shouldn't exist at all.  II was a perfect ending.  III is a fine film (minus Sofia Coppola's acting), I just find it unnecessary.

To switch gears completely, I watched Daybreakers today.  I actually liked it quite a bit.  It was an interesting concept, and I loved the look and feel of the vampires-have-won world.

The ending was a little odd - it could have used another 10 minutes or so for a proper resolution, I feel, but I guess they wanted to leave the future between humans and vampires ambiguous, which makes sense.

It reminded me a lot of Repo Men, which I also liked (though I much preferred Daybreakers).

Here's how I see the whole Executor dive-bombing the Death Star thing would have to work.  I think this could all be done using available footage, and a HELL of a lot of new effects footage.  (It does, however, significantly affect the story of the space battle, but doesn't affect the Luke/Vader/Emperor or Endor sections at all - though I'd love for the Endor section to be significantly changed, as well.)

First, it needs to be made clear that the Rebels really don't have a plan for how to destroy the new Death Star.  They just know that they need to before it's finished, or they're well and truly fucked.  (Demonstrated from the opening shot, which is now of the Executor being completely fucking dwarfed by the DSII, just before Vader's shuttle leaves to enter the Death Star and give Jerjerrod his pep talk.)

Basically, the bit of a plan they have is that they disable the shield on Endor, then pummel the fuck out of it and hope that they can find a way to blow it up.

Unfortunately, they didn't count on it being a trap, and are taken by surprise when the turbolaser starts destroying their fleet.  Now they're completely desperate, and move the fleet as close to the Death Star as possible, to try to avoid the turbolaser.  The Star Destroyers - including the Executor - follow.  The Rebel ships (I mean the big ones, the fighters are busy trying to fend off the TIE fighters) are using their laser batteries to try and hit the Death Star on one side and the Star Destroyers on the other (think Battlestar Galactica-style gun batteries, but with lasers, or like the opening of ROTS for a Star Wars example).  Nothing is making a dent in the Death Star, and the Rebels are down to their last few ships, which are dropping like flies.

Lando has the idea to drive a ship into the Death Star to punch a hole open, and since the Executor is closest (and biggest), he heads for that.  Instead of the A-Wing blowing up the bridge, the Falcon does it (not by crashing).  Or it could disable the shields, then other fighters take it out.  Or something.

So, the Executor tumbles into the Death Star, since it wasn't outright blown up like the rest of the big ships.  Instead of it causing a huge fireball with no damage, it crumbles into the structure,causing a large section to cave in.  Lando uses this to punch through to the core.

Now, what I'd like to see here is Lando trying to destroy the core, failing, then deciding to sacrifice himself (and the Falcon) by diving into the core to destroy the station, but I don't think there's enough footage to sell this sacrifice properly, so I guess that one's out of the question.

I dunno, what do you guys think, could this legitimately be done?  I feel it'd help improve latter part of the film significantly.  As it stands, I just don't care about the space battle, as I never really feel that the rebels are in that much danger or that they're taking any real losses.

Is that the only edit you made to the track beyond conforming it to the 70mm mix, or were there others?  Just wondering.

My only real problem with III is that it kinda nullifies the message of I and II (that power corrupts regardless of how good a person you were before you had that power).

TV's Frink said:

yoda1138 said:

p.s. whats this green laser debate about? Did I just re-open an old wound?

Here's the best part of the debate:

Janskeet Likes Green Lasers (05/18/09)
Star Wars: EP V "Revisited Edition" (Post #9833)

Courtesy of the "LOL Moments" link in my sig.  Enjoy!

You just had to bring up Janskeet again, didn't you?

Dynamic range compression makes the loud parts quieter and the quiet parts louder.  You do not want to do this.

Changing the dialnorm setting simply changes the volume before it gets to the receiver/TV.  It's basically the same as changing the volume on the TV, but it does it before it reaches the TV.  (If I understand HH correctly.)

The idea is you need to find out the overall volume level of each track, and adjust the dialnorm setting for each track so that they all output at the same overall volume level.  I assume "RMS" is the same as overall volume.

I don't know how to measure it, though, HH should be able to be more help with that.