ChainsawAsh

IrishLuck1980 said:

I hope I don't get in trouble for saying this, but even after smoking some weed, I still can't sit through any of the prequels.

That's funny, because in trying to re-watch them a few weeks ago, I discovered that the only way I could get through them was to get baked beforehand.

Next time I get into the audio suite at school, I'll search through the various libraries really quickly and see if I can find what you're looking for.

Don't know when this will be, though.

I don't think they'd CG Yoda in the OT.  There'd be too much of an uproar for them to do that.

Then again ...

Are you comparing PAL '97 to PAL '04?  I know the non-English versions of the 2004 crawl's receding logo were unaffected (that's how Adywan fixed it), maybe the English PAL 2004 crawl was unaffected as well (though I doubt it).

I'm betting CG Yoda will debut on the Blu-Ray.

That really is a 1997 SE change?  I'm floored.  I had no idea ...

sean wookie said:

ChainsawAsh said:

I'd love to, but I'm super broke and live in Chicago.

It really only cost me about $88.25 to take a round-trip local bus charter group. 

That's great if you have $88.25.  My account is currently overdrawn by $40.

TV's Frink said:

^Please tell me you can do that Zoidburg mouth noise from the first or second episode (can't remember which).

Which one?  The "Whoop whoop whoop whoop?"

I'd love to, but I'm super broke and live in Chicago.

Definitely.  I recommend looking at G-Force's GOUT Image Stabilization thread if you want to use AviSynth to make your own version of the 2006 DVDs, or Dark_Jedi's GOUT V3 thread if you prefer to just get his upcoming versions that implement G-Force's script along with msycamore's theatrical subtitles and the original theatrical audio tracks.

If you want something that looks closer to the 2004 DVDs in terms of quality, take a look at Adywan's 1980 Theatrical Reconstruction for Empire, and Harmy's Return of the Jedi theatrical reconstruction.  Adywan has also said he'll be doing the same for ANH once he's finished with Empire Revisited.

"Hurricane" by Bob Dylan (whether you believe his interpretation of the story or not isn't relevant for what we're talking about).

Bob Dylan and Jacques Levy wrote:

Pistols shots ring out in the barroom night
Enter Patty Valentine from the upper hall
She sees the bartender in a pool of blood
Cries out "My God they killed them all"
Here comes the story of the Hurricane
The man the authorities came to blame
For something that he never done
Put him in a prison cell but one time he could-a been
The champion of the world.

Three bodies lying there does Patty see
And another man named Bello moving around mysteriously
"I didn't do it" he says and he throws up his hands
"I was only robbing the register I hope you understand
I saw them leaving" he says and he stops
"One of us had better call up the cops"
And so Patty calls the cops
And they arrive on the scene with their red lights flashing
In the hot New Jersey night.

Meanwhile far away in another part of town
Rubin Carter and a couple of friends are driving around
Number one contender for the middleweight crown
Had no idea what kinda shit was about to go down
When a cop pulled him over to the side of the road
Just like the time before and the time before that
In Patterson that's just the way things go
If you're black you might as well not shown up on the street
'Less you wanna draw the heat.

Alfred Bello had a partner and he had a rap for the corps
Him and Arthur Dexter Bradley were just out prowling around
He said "I saw two men running out they looked like middleweights
They jumped into a white car with out-of-state plates"
And Miss Patty Valentine just nodded her head
Cop said "Wait a minute boys this one's not dead"
So they took him to the infirmary
And though this man could hardly see
They told him that he could identify the guilty men.

Four in the morning and they haul Rubin in
Take him to the hospital and they bring him upstairs
The wounded man looks up through his one dying eye
Says "Wha'd you bring him in here for ? He ain't the guy !"
Yes here comes the story of the Hurricane
The man the authorities came to blame
For something that he never done
Put in a prison cell but one time he could-a been
The champion of the world.

Four months later the ghettos are in flame
Rubin's in South America fighting for his name
While Arthur Dexter Bradley's still in the robbery game
And the cops are putting the screws to him looking for somebody to blame
"Remember that murder that happened in a bar ?"
"Remember you said you saw the getaway car?"
"You think you'd like to play ball with the law ?"
"Think it might-a been that fighter you saw running that night ?"
"Don't forget that you are white".

Arthur Dexter Bradley said "I'm really not sure"
Cops said "A boy like you could use a break
We got you for the motel job and we're talking to your friend Bello
Now you don't wanta have to go back to jail be a nice fellow
You'll be doing society a favor
That sonofabitch is brave and getting braver
We want to put his ass in stir
We want to pin this triple murder on him
He ain't no Gentleman Jim".

Rubin could take a man out with just one punch
But he never did like to talk about it all that much
It's my work he'd say and I do it for pay
And when it's over I'd just as soon go on my way
Up to some paradise
Where the trout streams flow and the air is nice
And ride a horse along a trail
But then they took him to the jailhouse
Where they try to turn a man into a mouse.

All of Rubin's cards were marked in advance
The trial was a pig-circus he never had a chance
The judge made Rubin's witnesses drunkards from the slums
To the white folks who watched he was a revolutionary bum
And to the black folks he was just a crazy nigger
No one doubted that he pulled the trigger
And though they could not produce the gun
The DA said he was the one who did the deed
And the all-white jury agreed.

Rubin Carter was falsely tried
The crime was murder 'one' guess who testified
Bello and Bradley and they both baldly lied
And the newspapers they all went along for the ride
How can the life of such a man
Be in the palm of some fool's hand ?
To see him obviously framed
Couldn't help but make me feel ashamed to live in a land
Where justice is a game.

Now all the criminals in their coats and their ties
Are free to drink martinis and watch the sun rise
While Rubin sits like Buddha in a ten-foot cell
An innocent man in a living hell
That's the story of the Hurricane
But it won't be over till they clear his name
And give him back the time he's done
Put him in a prison cell but one time he could-a been
The champion of the world.

Bingowings said:

Zoidberg sounds like Zoidberg

What about when my avatar was actually Ash from Army of Darkness (which is, obviously, where my username comes from)?  Or when it was Fry?

I really hope the answer is Zoidberg for both of those ...

Editroid said:

Is there ... a way to restore the 2006 non-anamorphic Star Wars movies to be close to the quality of the 2004 DVDs?

Not really, no.

Is there ANY way we can convince George to scrap this, and use the money he was going to sink into it to restore the original trilogy?  That would be a MUCH better use of his cash than this.

I second Captainsolo's suggestion of The Who's rock operas.  While Quadrophenia tells a story, it's pretty hard to follow, whereas "A Quick One, While He's Away" and Tommy are a bit more straightforward.

I'll also throw in two moe. songs, "Mexico" (from the album Headseed) and "Kyle's Song" (from Wormwood).

"Mexico" tells the (mostly true, partly embellished) story of one of the band members getting arrested while in Mexico, and "Kyle's Song" tells the story of a friend of the band getting hit by a car after one of their gigs.

Also, Fleet Foxes' "He Doesn't Know Why" (from their self-titled LP), which tells the story of one of the band members' brothers, who descended into drugs and hasn't been heard from since.

Finally, Grandaddy's "Jed the Humanoid" (from The Sophtware Slump), which tells the story of an android falling into a deep depression and drinking itself to death due to its makers forgetting it when newer technologies render it obsolete.

That's all I can think of at the moment, from three of my current-favorite bands.

moe.
"Mexico"
Can't find a studio or non-crappy live version of "Kyle's Song" on Youtube.

Fleet Foxes
"He Doesn't Know Why"

Grandaddy
"Jed the Humanoid"

Does someone have a video of the crawl from the 1997 SE?  I really, REALLY don't think the logo was sped up at all for that version.  I don't mind being proven wrong, but I've been 100% sure it's a 2004 change since, well, 2004.

As Frink said oh-so-eloquently, there's already a thread about this.

How does Obi-Wan get Anakin's lightsaber to give to Luke if it plays out like this?

msycamore:

The 2004 receding logo is MUCH MUCH faster than the 1997 one.  I'm 100% sure of this.  I'd worn out my '97 SE VHS'es, so I remembered them well.  I popped in the 2004 Star Wars disc when it first came out, and saw that, and immediately thought, "Oh, fuck.  They really cocked it up this time."

zombie84 said:

I always get a kick out of hearing complaints about 3D. It reminds me of the newspaper articles from when sound and then colour was invented. Literally, its almost verbatim the same sort of phrasing. Of course, a lot of early sound films had terrible, tinny audio, and some early colour films had poor, gimmicky colour effects. Done right, and done enough times, and you don't think about it as a gimmick because you aren't paying attention to it anymore. As far as 3D goes, most films try to draw attention to the effect, because that is why you are paying the premium price to see it. A lot of early sound and colour films had similar marketing philosophy. Then after a while, everyone was doing it, audiences got used to it, and then peope stopped trying to outdo each other in gimmicks and audiences simultaneously stopped paying conscious attention to it.

Ironically, the situation is now reversed--because people are used to colour and sound, if you do part of movie silent or in black and white, it is seen as being self-consciously stylistic, or maybe even gimmicky or pretentious. I have this sneaking suspicion that this will apply to 2D films ("flat pictures"?) at some point in the distant but not too distant future.

You're probably right, but I can't stand to watch a colorized film, and to me, converting something shot in 2D into 3D is the same thing.  I refuse to see it.

This doesn't just go for Star Wars.  This goes for Clash of the Titans, Harry Potter 7/8, and Toy Story 1/2, as well.  I refuse to watch any black-and-white film that's been colorized, and I'll refuse to watch any 2D film that's been "converted" to 3D, as well.

In response to the Diary of the Dead post:

Yeah, it's not very good, but his newest - Survival of the Dead - I liked quite a bit.  Better than Diary or Land, if you ask me (and I personally liked Land).

Then again, a lot of people really hated Survival, so take what I say with a grain of salt, I suppose.

Aaah!  Why is everything bold?!

Guess the site hosting the first one I used didn't like me using their bandwidth.

Fixed?

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