ChainsawAsh

Would there be any benefit to color-correcting the Ultimate Editions based on the colors in the Criteron LDs, etc., then syncing the original audio and banned commentaries to those?

Hmm.  So is it possible that the 1971 US theatrical cut didn't have the narration at the beginning?

It's maddening that we don't have a proper, confirmed reference for this ...

One of the first things I was taught in film classes that involve color-correction, first in Telecine & Color Correction and now in Avid Online, is that you need to calibrate your display.  (Hell, we're expected to do it every time we sit down to color correct, but that's likely just because other people use the workstations outside of our classes, so we have to be sure to undo any damage they did.)

Look up "display calibration" on Google, I'm sure you can find something to help you there.  If your display can do blue-only, or you have a blue filter, you can use SMPTE bars to calibrate it (you can still use them to set brightness).

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

seeing Ady's version made me wonder if that was indeed the way it was originally, but during editing they found that by changing the order it made things more emotionally intense.

That's exactly what happened.  And I agree with you - the cut of the scene in the theatrical release was the superior cut.

Frankly, I wish Ady had kept the theatrical cut of the scene, and put the "original" cut (as it appears in Revisited) in the deleted scenes section.

*edit*

And I think the Purist version did restore the hut scene to its original cut, didn't it?

*re-edit*

Ah, Moth3r beat me to it.

Well, obviously I can't give you a real guarantee, as no one can unless they happen to have a time machine.  But I'd be confident enough to bet everything I have on it.

I guarantee you that if he poured the money for the 3D conversion of all 6 films into restoring the OUT instead, and released it in a Blu-Ray box along with the 1997 SEs, 2004 SEs, and the 2011 SEs (assuming there will be more changes), he'd make all his money back and more.  I think that would be more profitable than 3D re-releases.

Mainly because I know I would buy that, but I'll not see any Star Wars film in 3D, ever, no matter what, and I can't be the only one.

Oh, right.  Whoops.  That's what happens when you open up all your "unread" threads in multiple tabs, and don't bother to check the thread titles while you're going through and reading them.

Haha, I just noticed that.  Fixed ;-)

I'm no sheep.  I just don't have time to help someone out who acts as entitled as you.  I'm currently swamped with class work - I'm cutting two feature-length documentaries, working as a post-production supervisor on a graduate thesis film, have 3 projects to online, and 5 treatments to develop into short screenplays, not to mention that a friend of mine's band is trying to get me to cut together a music video for them before I finish any of this stuff.

I was willing to help you out with this because it's something I've considered doing myself, and since you were being nice about everything I was willing to work some extra long nights to do this quickly.  Now that your true colors have shown through, I'm not doing it for you.

I may do it for myself, and if that happens I'll send you a PM, but I'm not going to overwork myself for you.  If I do it, it won't be until Christmas, and you probably won't hear about it until it's done.

Besides, if you really wanted to get this done, you could take the time to learn the software necessary to do it instead of trying to get someone else to do it for you.  Hell, if you work in film (as you claim), I don't see why you seem to think all this is beyond you.

I also added "aphabetty spaghetti" to mine a day or two ago.

Sorry, Muddy.  I was considering it, but after all this B.S., I'm definitely not doing this for you.  You're on your own.

I never said it was good.  Watchable is a possibility, but that's even stretching it.

I'm just saying that Episodes II and III are such shit that Episode I can't help but be better in comparison.

My pressing of Who Are You has the uncensored title track ("fucks" and all).  I guess we have different pressings?

muddyknees2000 said:

ChainsawAsh said:

I could do it, but it'd end up being 2.0 stereo in the end.

 Why the loss of 5.1?

I work in Avid Media Composer (film editing student), and it can't do 5.1.

I suppose I could split the 5.1 into 6 mono tracks and work with them that way, but then I'd have to figure out a way to recombine them into 5.1, and I don't know how to do that.  Plus, I'm on a Mac, which immediately makes it more difficult.

Oh, and I don't have the Purist Edition.

I believe that's the case.  Or at least, not as much of a slowdown at Ben's death.

I could be wrong about that, though.

The most difficult part of all this will be to preserve the 5.1 track.  I could do it, but it'd end up being 2.0 stereo in the end.

I have that pressing of Who Are You.  It sounds amazing.

I also have a 180-gram re-pressing of the mono British version of My Generation that was made a few years ago.  It sounds good to my ears, but I'd love to hear an original pressing to compare.

The Purist version is Adywan's visual edit without the music.  The only difference, if I recall, is the slow-motion stuff added to Revisited when/just after Obi-Wan is killed.

I highly disagree.  1 is the most watchable, 2 is the least watchable.  3 is a muddled mess of a movie, but the middle section isn't nearly as terrible as 2.  The first and last third are much worse than TPM, though.

Would you consider using alternate angles to include both the "Book of the Dead" and "The Evil Dead" titles, similar to how multiple languages of the Star Wars crawls are presented on the DVDs?

Wow, I didn't realize it was that different in its theatrical incarnation!  I doubt we'd ever be able to get it 100% accurate without the original English narration, though.

The Doctor Who Christmas special.

The Futurama Christmas special.

The new season of Dexter (I know it started, but I haven't gotten to watch it yet).

The Walking Dead on AMC.

Fallout: New Vegas.

Harry Potter 7/8.

Tron: Legacy.

Batman 3 (yeah, I know, long ways off).

Actually developing my treatment for an adaptation of All You Zombies into a script (the only school-related thing I'm excited about this year).

The day when I finally get my last Doctor Who DVD from Netflix (I just returned The War Games, the Second Doctor's final serial, and I'm waiting for Spearhead from Space, the Third Doctor's first).

Bingowings said:

it had a nice editorial comparing the 3Dising of classic 2D films to Ted Turner scribbling pastel shades over monochrome classics

That's good.  That's pretty much exactly how I feel about it.

Well, the 1080i thing doesn't really matter when you're dealing with something that was shot at 24fps, as all you have to do is undo the pulldown to bring it to true 1080p.

At least, that's how it works with 480i/480p, so I assume that's how it works with 1080i/1080p.

Excuse me while I go and eat my hat.  ;-)

Alright, Alphabetty is now the newset addition to my ignore list.

Why have I had to use it so much lately?  This is saddening me.