ChainsawAsh

Ah, yeah, it's probably not a PAL/NTSC issue then (though those terms have no meaning in high def, I'm using them to refer to 23.976fps vs. 25fps).

Try changing the video's framerate to 23.976 and see if it syncs then.  Most people won't notice a difference between 23.976 and 24, anyway.

I understand.  I'd prefer for it to be gone, but I get not wanting to fuck with the established universe too much.

--bitchy rant at fishmanlee deleted--

Sorry, I didn't mean to be such a dick about that.  The thing is, I have a mild learning disability - similar to dyslexia, but not quite - where I often mix up words with their opposites (sister/brother; most commonly it's with east and west - I lost a trivia competition in high school because I said something to the effect of Alaska being on the east coast of the continent, even though I obviously knew I was wrong).

I shouldn't have gotten that upset about you calling me on it.  I don't know why I expected anyone here to know that, since I've never mentioned it.

I believe he's begun sending out discs to certain people for a quality control check before uploading them, so it'll be available soon.

Almost there...

The DTS-HD isn't from a 25fps source, no?  How badly does it drift out of sync when married with the 24fps video?

Even better, what are the running times of both the 24fps video and the DTS-HD audio?

fishmanlee said:

ChainsawAsh said:

fishmanlee said:

ChainsawAsh said:

The music heard over "Bring my shuttle" is far better than the music heard over "Alert my Star Destroyer," too.

You mean the music is better utilized over "Bring my shuttle"

No, I'm fairly certain it's a different cue, necessitated by the addition of all those pointless "flying to the Executor" shots.  They're definitely both based around the Imperial March, but they're not the same cue.

That is what I meant

But you made is seem that the new music was not as good as the other, and I said no, it did not fit the scene, but it was good (its John Williams).

Yeah, that's exactly what I meant.  The SE cue is inferior.  The original cue is better musically than the cue used in the SE.

Just because it's John Williams doesn't mean it's inherently as good as other John Williams.

This is just my personal preference, BUT...

...since you're doing a new version of your ROTS edit as well (I haven't seen your first version, but I'm intrigued), you're in a unique position to be able to remove the Leia-as-Luke's-sister plot point.  Especially since you've cut Luke and Obi-Wan's conversation on Dagobah.

That was always one of my least favorite things about ROTJ - Luke's Vader's son and Leia's sister?  Really?  The galaxy is that small?

Just a suggestion for a change that I personally wouldn't hesitate to make, but I can understand if you want to leave it as is.

I'm actually considering doing that this summer, pending Dark_Jedi's approval to use his discs as source material.  I haven't asked yet, though - I'm not even sure if I'll have time to do it yet.

I'm surprised that I only have vague recollections of AWK.  I know I was around when he was, but I don't quite remember the specifics.

I love that your solution to "I want them to stop thinking I'm someone else using a new account" is "make a new account."

fishmanlee said:

ChainsawAsh said:

The music heard over "Bring my shuttle" is far better than the music heard over "Alert my Star Destroyer," too.

You mean the music is better utilized over "Bring my shuttle"

No, I'm fairly certain it's a different cue, necessitated by the addition of all those pointless "flying to the Executor" shots.  They're definitely both based around the Imperial March, but they're not the same cue.

I'd be shocked if it's the same as the 2004 DVDs.  Pretty much every home video release has had some form of alteration to it on at least one of the films, minus the "Faces" DVD set (I'm including new audio mixes in this statement).

Can I be an OT.Com Illuminatus?  :-)

Hey, I guess it just goes to show that you are, in fact, less of an idiot than I.  Er, me.  No, you.  Wait, us?

...now I'm confused.

70mm is 2.2:1 with spherical (what you call "flat") lenses, which is very very close to the 2.39:1 of anamorphic 35mm.  So anamorphic 35mm films are shown "flat" in 70mm.

Anamorphic 70mm is 2.76:1 (Ben-Hur is the best example I can think of), substantially wider than anamorphic 35mm.

Ah, that makes more sense.  I may pick them up used sometime down the road as well, but Lucasfilm certainly won't be getting a dime from me.

Not if you were less of an idiot than me.  I shouldn't have put a return address on the discs I mailed him.

The music heard over "Bring my shuttle" is far better than the music heard over "Alert my Star Destroyer," too.

Perhaps there was a 70mm early premiere that used a slightly different cut of the film, and that's where all those reported differences come from?  The proper 70mm general release may have been much closer to the 35mm version.

Done.  (And in my case, it's definitely true.)

I think you're confused, Harmy.  The 97SE isn't the bonus disc.

The GOUT V3 and 97SE V2 are the two normal releases.  The bonus release is a transfer of the pre-1993 Japanese Special Collection laserdiscs.  (I think the isolated-score "Imperial Edition" of ESB is another sort of bonus disc, but that one is already available for download, IIRC.)

--edit--

Looks like you realized this before I posted.  Nevahmind, then.

For those confused by the fact that Frink's Netflix DVD had no special features or chapter stops:

http://www.slashfilm.com/disney-follows-fox-in-removing-bonus-features-from-rental-dvds/

It's a thing now.  My Netflix of Up had all the menus, but when went into the bonus menu to watch Partly Cloudy, when I clicked on it I got a message telling me to buy the retail DVD to watch the extra feature.

Some rental discs don't even have subtitles or closed captioning, which is very not cool if you ask me.

And 5.1 upmixes for each film, too, with Star Wars's being a recreation of the 1977 70mm surround mix!

Well said, AK.  Well said.

So, who's gonna update the Wikipedia article on Star Wars changes with this new information?

Sorry to bump this thread, but I'm not un-ignoring Ghostie-boy, so I may as well respond here:

It's called Google, dude.  And Wikipedia.  I know some here seem to think I know a lot about film/video because I go to school for it, and while that's partly true, the vast majority of this stuff I taught myself using the Internet even before I started going to film school.  It's not that hard to find answers to the questions you've asked in the past.

Oh, and if you are Janskeet - you should know that I no longer live at the address you probably still have (indeed, I don't even live in the same state anymore).  And no, I will not be giving you my current address.

Aaand now back to ignoring you.