ChainsawAsh

Yep, that’s definitely a detachable shuttle or something in the nose of the Falcon.

Also, a canon cross section? Neat!

DominicCobb said:

Dek Rollins said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Dek Rollins said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Dek Rollins said:

Collipso said:

The “they’ll get the guns anyway even if illegally” argument is nonsense. By that logic, why bother having laws in the first place?

In many states, as well as federally, smoking pot is illegal. People still do it constantly because they have some sort of access to it illegally. The same applies to pretty much any other product. If there is demand for it, at least a few of those demanding it will get their hands on it somehow.

Any other illegal drug, alcoholic beverages during prohibition, alcoholic beverages to minors today, porn to minors, child porn, etc. is accessible in some way to those who seek it hard enough. The same applies to weapons, especially considering the whole 3D printing situation.

So we should stop regulating child porn, alcohol, etc. because people are going to get it anyway, right? That’s what I’m hearing and it’s fucking stupid.

I never said that. It should all be regulated, but regulation will not ultimately stop every possible instance. It will just keep it down to a minimum of occurrence.

Of course. That’s exactly what all of us who want stricter gun regulations wants and expects. So I don’t understand why anyone argues against it with the “They’ll still get guns illegally” defense and it infuriates me that that defense actually seems to be working, seeing as how there’s been essentially no meaningful legislation or really any steps taken toward the necessary regulation to reduce gun violence/mass shootings for years.

Also, a point - the pro-gun (or should I say anti-regulation) lobby seems to think that those of us who want tougher gun laws expect such laws to completely eliminate these incidents. We don’t, that’s pretty much impossible and we know that. But 50 people dead from a mass shooting or two in a year is a hell of a lot better than hundreds or thousands from dozens of mass shootings in a year.

The thing is, we are all being over protective of our stance, because of the extremes on both sides. Plenty of people actually want to ban personal ownership of guns. This angers people who want to keep their guns and they start thinking everyone thinks this way. Apply that to the other side of the arguement and you’ve got a bunch of people who can’t compromise.

I agree with you though.

Truth is, even though a lot of people would prefer if there were no guns at all, almost none of them are actually advocating for that right now. Most people just want some level of reform. So, essentially, the two sides of the debate are “please let’s do something/anything,” and the other side is “let’s do literally nothing at all.” Only one of those seem like an extreme to me.

Also very much this.

Rask40 said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

Well, if we are not going to get rid of the guns, our schools need protection. Maybe not armed teachers, but armed trained police/security guards.

Schools already have police officers in the building. It isn’t working.

I don’t think removing guns (or certain type of guns) from millions of law abiding citizens will work either. Besides that would be illegal.

And I don’t think any of the laws people like me want to see happen will mean anyone will get their guns taken away from them, only that future sales would be significantly more restrictive.

Dek Rollins said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Dek Rollins said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Dek Rollins said:

Collipso said:

The “they’ll get the guns anyway even if illegally” argument is nonsense. By that logic, why bother having laws in the first place?

In many states, as well as federally, smoking pot is illegal. People still do it constantly because they have some sort of access to it illegally. The same applies to pretty much any other product. If there is demand for it, at least a few of those demanding it will get their hands on it somehow.

Any other illegal drug, alcoholic beverages during prohibition, alcoholic beverages to minors today, porn to minors, child porn, etc. is accessible in some way to those who seek it hard enough. The same applies to weapons, especially considering the whole 3D printing situation.

So we should stop regulating child porn, alcohol, etc. because people are going to get it anyway, right? That’s what I’m hearing and it’s fucking stupid.

I never said that. It should all be regulated, but regulation will not ultimately stop every possible instance. It will just keep it down to a minimum of occurrence.

Of course. That’s exactly what all of us who want stricter gun regulations wants and expects. So I don’t understand why anyone argues against it with the “They’ll still get guns illegally” defense and it infuriates me that that defense actually seems to be working, seeing as how there’s been essentially no meaningful legislation or really any steps taken toward the necessary regulation to reduce gun violence/mass shootings for years.

Also, a point - the pro-gun (or should I say anti-regulation) lobby seems to think that those of us who want tougher gun laws expect such laws to completely eliminate these incidents. We don’t, that’s pretty much impossible and we know that. But 50 people dead from a mass shooting or two in a year is a hell of a lot better than hundreds or thousands from dozens of mass shootings in a year.

The thing is, we are all being over protective of our stance, because of the extremes on both sides. Plenty of people actually want to ban personal ownership of guns. This angers people who want to keep their guns and they start thinking everyone thinks this way. Apply that to the other side of the arguement and you’ve got a bunch of people who can’t compromise.

This is true, sadly. It’s massively depressing that a real conversation about this that leads to some kind of action seems impossible when the lives of innocents are at stake.

Dek Rollins said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Dek Rollins said:

Collipso said:

The “they’ll get the guns anyway even if illegally” argument is nonsense. By that logic, why bother having laws in the first place?

In many states, as well as federally, smoking pot is illegal. People still do it constantly because they have some sort of access to it illegally. The same applies to pretty much any other product. If there is demand for it, at least a few of those demanding it will get their hands on it somehow.

Any other illegal drug, alcoholic beverages during prohibition, alcoholic beverages to minors today, porn to minors, child porn, etc. is accessible in some way to those who seek it hard enough. The same applies to weapons, especially considering the whole 3D printing situation.

So we should stop regulating child porn, alcohol, etc. because people are going to get it anyway, right? That’s what I’m hearing and it’s fucking stupid.

I never said that. It should all be regulated, but regulation will not ultimately stop every possible instance. It will just keep it down to a minimum of occurrence.

Of course. That’s exactly what all of us who want stricter gun regulations wants and expects. So I don’t understand why anyone argues against it with the “They’ll still get guns illegally” defense and it infuriates me that that defense actually seems to be working, seeing as how there’s been essentially no meaningful legislation or really any steps taken toward the necessary regulation to reduce gun violence/mass shootings for years.

Also, a point - the pro-gun (or should I say anti-regulation) lobby seems to think that those of us who want tougher gun laws expect such laws to completely eliminate these incidents. We don’t, that’s pretty much impossible and we know that. But 50 people dead from a mass shooting or two in a year is a hell of a lot better than hundreds or thousands from dozens of mass shootings in a year.

Dek Rollins said:

Collipso said:

The “they’ll get the guns anyway even if illegally” argument is nonsense. By that logic, why bother having laws in the first place?

In many states, as well as federally, smoking pot is illegal. People still do it constantly because they have some sort of access to it illegally. The same applies to pretty much any other product. If there is demand for it, at least a few of those demanding it will get their hands on it somehow.

Any other illegal drug, alcoholic beverages during prohibition, alcoholic beverages to minors today, porn to minors, child porn, etc. is accessible in some way to those who seek it hard enough. The same applies to weapons, especially considering the whole 3D printing situation.

So we should stop regulating child porn, alcohol, etc. because people are going to get it anyway, right? That’s what I’m hearing and it’s fucking stupid.

Collipso said:

The “they’ll get the guns anyway even if illegally” argument is nonsense. By that logic, why bother having laws in the first place?

Exactly.

SilverWook said:

I’m sure the Han Solo movie is going to benefit from all the stuff leftover from RO.

Which might explain why all the anthology films so far have been set in the same era. (I’m including the all-but-officially-announced Kenobi movie, too.)

Dek Rollins said:

I don’t use it as an excuse for anything

You might not be, but almost everybody else who says that is absolutely using it to justify inaction. And it’s been working.

So let’s turn schools into fucking prisons instead of addressing the real problem.

Jesus fucking Christ.

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

Well, if we are not going to get rid of the guns, our schools need protection. Maybe not armed teachers, but armed trained police/security guards.

Schools already have police officers in the building. It isn’t working.

This. We had armed security in my high school. Ten years ago. Yep, that’s working real super great, isn’t it?

Dek Rollins said:

I thought there were all sorts of barriers in place and background checks and such for getting a license as well as purchasing the weapon itself. Perhaps I’m not remembering correctly.

I paid about $75 for a lifetime concealed carry permit. They supposedly did a background check and fingerprinted me for it, but it took like two days, so fuck knows how hard they actually looked. On top of that, I was gifted a 1911A1 handgun and was shocked to discover that I don’t have to register it in any way, shape, or form. So if I go out and shoot someone in the head with it, wipe my prints off really well, and ditch the gun, there’s nothing to tie it back to me.

If more protections were put in place, the people who have a desire to mutilate other human beings will go to the trouble of acquiring weapons anyway, legally or not.

I’m so fucking sick of hearing this excuse. “They’ll get guns illegally anyway, so why bother?” Fuck everything about that.

And yes, I know you followed it up with:

It won’t inherently solve the problem, just make it so that it doesn’t occur as often because it’s more difficult for them. Though of course that’s better than nothing.

Yep, that’s better than nothing, but “they’ll get them illegally anyway” is literally the excuse that’s been used for years to do exactly that - nothing. And people keep fucking dying.

superfan25 said:

What did i do wrong i just asked a question.

When Adywan has something to update us on, he will. Asking for updates is unnecessary and feels like you’re demanding he work at your speed, not his.

Plus before long we’ll be getting people demanding updates constantly to the point of harassment just like with ESB, hence the “it begins” comment.

Sit tight and be patient. ESB took the better part of a decade. ROTJ might not take as long, but it definitely won’t be done anytime soon.

Warbler said:

I’d like to know how the hell someone the FBI thought was suspicious and whom had mental issues was allowed to legally buy guns.

BECAUSE OUR GUN LAWS ARE A FUCKING JOKE AND EVERY TIME THIS SHIT HAPPENS AND ANY SORT OF SANE REGULATIONS ARE PROPOSED PEOPLE WHINE “BUT NO MUH FREEDUMZ” AND NOTHING FUCKING HAPPENS AND EVERYONE IS SHOCKED WHEN IT INEVITABLY FUCKING HAPPENS AGAIN A WEEK LATER.

I say this as a gun owner, but holy shit it should not have been as easy as it was for me to legally get one without any sort of training or proof that I actually know how to use one.

Fuck our country’s gun laws.

Each film is to some degree worse than the one before it, so a ranking from me would be pointless as it’d just be me listing the films in release order.

Raiders is a perfect film.

Temple is the rare sequel that tries to do something very different to stand apart from its predecessor, and while there are a few missteps it’s mostly great.

Last Crusade is the standard sequel that rehashes the popular first entry while Flanderizing all the characters to death (especially poor Brody). It’s saved from being garbage by Sean Connery and the last ~30 minutes, which are genuinely fantastic.

Crystal Skull isn’t as awful as its reputation but aside from a 20-30 minute stretch in the middle of the film, it’s not very good. I disliked that they brought back Marion, tying it too heavily into Raiders instead of letting it stand on its own. And far too many moments in the film are utterly cringeworthy.

So, for me:

• Raiders: 10/10
• Temple: 9/10
• Crusade: 7/10
• Crystal Skull: 5 or 6/10, I can’t really decide.

ChainsawAsh said:

MalàStrana said:

Uncanny valley… with an alien ?

To us, you’re the aliens!

Ignore my previous statement, fellow Human. Apologies for the confusion.

MalàStrana said:

Uncanny valley… with an alien ?

To us, you’re the aliens!

Yeah, the uncanny valley is strong with that one…

Hal 9000 said:

Now availalbe! You can find them on the 'spleen, and via a direct download link on the /r/Fanedits subreddit. Thanks to Ash for encoding DTS tracks for us. 😃

Happy to help! Haven’t muxed them into Despecialized yet, but I’m excited to give them a listen. Wish I had a 5.1 setup so I could get the full effect of these…

Thanks, everyone.

Yeah, I was going to say, that sounds exactly like the version I already own…

canofhumdingers said:

I’m guessing you’re not much of a gun person in real life? Plastic (and composite) is the name of the game in military/police weapons.

Yeah, my gun safe would disagree with you. And yes, this is absolutely true, but in the context of Star Wars, the design of the First Order guns in particular feels like they were meant to sell toys first and be guns second to me, however “realistic” they might be.

Eh, they looked pretty plasticy and, well, not dangerous to me. I was also not a huge fan of the shiny chrome pistols in TPM for the same reason. Too toylike, not very weaponlike.

I don’t really know what thread to put this in - emotional support doesn’t seem quite right, but it’s the closest I can find at the moment.

I’ve been away for a couple days because my mom was in a snowmobile accident on Sunday.

Her, my dad, and my brother were riding through an open field, and my mom always stays almost ridiculously far back from everyone else for safety concerns. Well, apparently my dad and brother stopped up ahead by the road, and my mom ran into the back of my brother’s sled at 35mph.

She was thrown from her sled, hit my dad’s (in front), then flopped back onto my brother’s. She was unconscious for about five minutes, eyes open and unblinking, before finally coming to. My dad said she thought she was paralyzed. Thankfully she wasn’t, she was moving her arms and legs and talking.

She doesn’t remember what happened. From her perspective, she saw them stopped about 500 yards ahead, then the next thing she knew she was in an ambulance.

She’s okay now. She had a serious concussion and probably a torn ligament or something of the sort in her shoulder. But the scary part is how the accident happened in the first place. There’s a bit of a family history of epilepsy and seizures, but never with her. It’s possible that the concussion caused the memory loss prior to the crash, but there’s the question of how the crash happened in the first place. We’re worried now that she blacked out or had a seizure while riding, which is what caused the crash to happen. My grandma (her mom) recently had very similar seizure issues, but never while driving or anything.

It’s all kind of scary and seizures are something that aren’t well understood and the root cause may never be found out or, even if it is, may not be addressable.

I’ve also had sort of similar “blackouts” in the past, but very rarely, and I’ve always been able to attribute them to dehydration or overheating or something similar, but now I’m not so sure. My uncle (her half brother) is an epileptic, but we always thought that was from her stepdad’s side - but now that her mom has had issues, that might mean that it’s part of my family history as well.

Mostly I’m just happy she’s okay and the accident wasn’t much more serious, but it’s still got me thinking and worrying a little bit.

Anyway, sorry for taking up so much room with all this in a thread that’s meant for more serious personal issues. My mom’s okay and that’s all that really matters right now.

DominicCobb said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

My mother began pressing me to talk to her tonight. She seems to think I’m still depressed (I am, but I can’t let her know that I’m too bad). She tried to convince me to stay home at a local university this fall, but I don’t think I can make myself stay. Then again, if I leave, I don’t think I’ll survive. My gay ass deserves to rot. I don’t see what the point in living is, I’m never truly going to be happy, I’m never going to let myself for one reason or another.

Personally, I hope you get the chance to go to a bigger university away from where you live. There you’d very quickly learn that the kind of mindset you’ve been brought up in is very much in the minority and that most people out there are incredibly accepting of people for who they are. This world’s got a lot to offer, and you’re a good guy, you deserve to find that out for yourself.

All of this right here. And I echo the sentiments that your parents very well might end up being more supportive than you expect them to be, religious beliefs or no.