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#1103810
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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NeverarGreat said:

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

What do you mean Republicans are saying the name of their party wrong?

“Their” in that context meaning the Democratic Party, not the Republican Party. As an exercise, go through any official Republican press release, speech by a Republican national candidate, or opinion piece by a Republican political operative, for the past ten years, and see if you can find even one saying the words “Democratic Party” when talking about their opposition. Just one reference using the actual name of a major US political party in the age of the Internet when anyone can look anything up, shouldn’t be a problem, right? Yeah, not so much. Now go back thirty years, and the same exercise is easy.

They once got it right every single time, and then suddenly they all got it wrong every single time. Staying on message is one thing the Republicans tend to do very well, even for petty name-calling. Shit, look at Freedom Fries or Death Taxes or whatnot. They even rode with Homicide Bombers for a week or so when even their own people couldn’t bear how stupid it sounded from the get-go. They practically have their own Newspeak division.

Although calling them the ‘Democrat Party’ was an insult by Republicans, it has been so ingrained in their speech patterns that they probably think theirs is the ‘proper’ way of saying it. There’s some sense to that after all. The Republicans and the Republican party are the same word, so it makes sense that the Democrats and the Democrat party would follow the same rule. It’s stupid, sure. But at least there’s some consistency in that thought.

Oh I get that after so many years, it’s ingrained and people have even been raised never knowing it by another name so it probably sounds wrong when it’s said correctly. But the point is that it was a conscious choice to do things wrong, in an attempt to goad Dems into wasting their time being pedantic and correct instead of talking about issues. You think Dubya didn’t really know how to pronounce “nuclear”? That was as rehearsed as his fake Texas accent, designed to make him seem the poor everyman, beset by the mocking self-righteous intelligentsia. And it worked.

So when you make fun of Trump, don’t do it about the P’s and Q’s. Just stick to the pee.

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#1103803
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Warbler said:

What do you mean Republicans are saying the name of their party wrong?

“Their” in that context meaning the Democratic Party, not the Republican Party. As an exercise, go through any official Republican press release, speech by a Republican national candidate, or opinion piece by a Republican political operative, for the past ten years, and see if you can find even one saying the words “Democratic Party” when talking about their opposition. Just one reference using the actual name of a major US political party in the age of the Internet when anyone can look anything up, shouldn’t be a problem, right? Yeah, not so much. Now go back thirty years, and the same exercise is easy.

They once got it right every single time, and then suddenly they all got it wrong every single time. Staying on message is one thing the Republicans tend to do very well, even for petty name-calling. Shit, look at Freedom Fries or Death Taxes or whatnot. They even rode with Homicide Bombers for a week or so when even their own people couldn’t bear how stupid it sounded from the get-go. They practically have their own Newspeak division.

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#1103797
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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yhwx said:

http://ew.com/tv/2017/09/01/donald-trump-spelled-heal-wrong-again-in-a-tweet/

President Donald Trump was mocked on Twitter early Friday for misspelling “heal” as “heel,” the second time in two weeks Trump has made the error online.

“Texas is heeling [sic] fast thanks to all of the great men & women who have been working so hard. But still, so much to do. Will be back tomorrow!” Trump wrote at 7:50 a.m. ET on Friday, addressing Hurricane Harvey relief efforts. The tweet was later deleted.

Twitter users and media members were quick to mock the president for his mistake.

Appearing dumb to elicit an elitist response from Democrats is a pretty old Republican game. Not that Trump needs to play too hard at it, but still. Seriously, there are tons of Americans out there who get by just fine without spelling very well, and they may just be a little sensitive on that matter, and when the Democrats play “cultural partisan elite”, it hardly helps matters. That’s kinda how Bush effectively won the debate with Gore by getting demolished a little too severely. It’s verbal rope-a-dope – they expend far less effort misspeaking than their opponents do correcting them. Can you imagine what would happen if Democrats insisted Republicans get the name of their party right every single time they said it wrong? That’s exactly why Republican politicians and operatives still almost universally get it so consistently wrong after so many decades. It’s a messaging mandate from the party. The focus on style rather than substance aids their cause. The fact that they sound stupid isn’t politically relevant – it’s even a net positive.

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#1103748
Topic
Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)
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For an example of the sort of thing I’m considering, the first scenario is just to see if the idea of shifting adjacent subs is warranted at all anymore. But the second scenario is to come up with a logical set of rules, apply them consistently to the subtitles, and see what that yields. For example:

Shift adjacent subtitles if it’s:

  1. One subtitle with shifted subtitles within 1s on both sides, and <350ms gap after shifted subtitle on leading side
  2. One subtitle with a shifted subtitle on leading side with <350ms gap between them
  3. Two subtitles with <350ms gap between them, shifted subtitles within 1s on both sides, and <350ms gap after shifted subtitle on leading side
  4. One subtitle with shifted subtitles within 1s on both sides and <350ms gap before shifted subtitle on trailing side

Using these rules, I’m completely unable to justify three of the adjacent shifted subtitles in ROTJ, and the remaining two are covered by rule #1, which seems like the rule everyone would agree on if you agree to the basic concept of shifting adjacent subtitles.

In SW, they are all still justified by one of the rules, but “I don’t have it with me. Tell Jabba–” and “Over my dead body.” are covered by rule #4, which is a pretty iffy one IMO. “Yes, Greedo. As a matter of fact, I was just going to see your boss./Tell Jabba that I’ve got his money.” are covered by rule #3, and “Yes, I’ll bet you have.” is rule #2.

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#1103466
Topic
Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)
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Just seeking feedback from my existing users on this–

In the current version of Project Threepio, subtitles are shifted to the top of the screen not only when there’s onscreen alien subtitles, but also for subtitles adjacent to those alien subtitles. For example, in the Han-Greedo exchange, ALL of the dialogue is shifted up even though technically only Greedo’s lines have to be shifted.

There were a few reasons for this: first, I felt that, particularly for subtitles using the Latin alphabet, it was hard on the user to alternate rapidly between high and low subtitles. Secondly, back in the early days of this project, there was no guarantee that burnt-in subs would have theatrical timing, so I needed to be able to dodge mistimed subs.

That latter part of the problem is largely solved, now that pretty much everything uses film-based burnt-in timings. The earlier part is pretty subjective. I’ve always felt that the Greedo scene worked pretty well, but that the Jabba scenes weren’t so cut-and-dry.

What does everyone else think? Should I shift Han’s lines back down? Should I leave Star Wars alone but consider doing it for Jedi? Are there other subtitles in other parts of the film that obscure some crucial detail and SHOULD be shifted up? The tractor beam text translation was a tough call–both high and low subs would block some text, so I went with low. Similarly, the SDH subs for the chattering probe droid noises – high blocks the tops of the antennae, and low blocks the droid’s head, so I went with high.

I’ve already pretty much decided to shift the pre-crawl titles back to low positions. That was just a legacy from when I shifted subtitles manually and it was just easier to keep track of things that way.

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#1103398
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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dahmage said:

CatBus said:

Mueller is officially coordinating with Schneiderman. That means they’re not only circumventing Presidential pardon powers for actual convictions, but more importantly, circumventing Presidential pardon powers as a way to apply pressure to witnesses (i.e. why would you talk talk if you’ve got a guarantee from the President that he’ll pardon you). Furthermore, this puts Schneiderman in a stronger position to continue the investigation should Mueller get fired. It’s the right move for sure. I hope it pays off.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/30/manafort-mueller-probe-attorney-general-242191

yeah i was reading a little bit on this last night. i really really hope that something actually happens at the end of all these processes, but i am not expecting much.

No, I don’t expect impeachment either. But there can at least theoretically be indictments and even convictions without impeachment (yeah, and that would definitely be weird). And of course the public airing of such very dirty laundry is absolutely necessary, so the testimony obtained through these processes may be invaluable regardless of the legal outcome.

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#1103395
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Mueller is officially coordinating with Schneiderman. That means they’re not only circumventing Presidential pardon powers for actual convictions, but more importantly, circumventing Presidential pardon powers as a way to apply pressure to witnesses (i.e. why would you talk talk if you’ve got a guarantee from the President that he’ll pardon you). Furthermore, this puts Schneiderman in a stronger position to continue the investigation should Mueller get fired. It’s the right move for sure. I hope it pays off.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/30/manafort-mueller-probe-attorney-general-242191

Background: Presidential pardons can only apply to federal crimes. So when a state AG presses charges, only the governor of that state can issue pardons. And state-level crimes, while jurisdictionally limited, can still be very, very serious. Money laundering, fraud, racketeering, etc.

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#1103277
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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TV’s Frink said:

Hey, as a former mayor, he’s at least (possibly) more qualified for public office than Trump.

Plus he’s already got the prostitution scandal thing down, just without the pee. I’m starting to see where I was being unfair to Mr. Springer. After all, after his free-for-all carnivals of televised vile behavior, he’d stop and have a Jerry’s Moment where he pretended to be decent for 38 seconds. That would be an improvement over today’s political norms.

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#1103252
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Warbler said:

They stated opposition to states’ rights in their secession documents? Didn’t know this.

Yes. Many of the Confederate States listed their “causes for secession” as sort of a formality/justification/PR effort. South Carolina and Georgia certainly included this language, and others may have as well, although I’m not sure about those. Basically, they stated that they (as states) had the right to have slavery without having to defer to the federal government (pro-states’ rights), but also that northern states (as states) had no similar right to decide their own policies about so-called fugitive slaves (anti-states’ rights). Basically the concept of states’ rights extends to the right to own slaves, but no further, as far as the Confederates were concerned. It was an “a la carte” style of Constitutional interpretation, take what you like, discard what you don’t.

I am just trying to get at the truth.

Sorry, I’m not referring to you, so much as the professional Confederate apologists out there trying to muddy the waters for fun and profit.

It’s like calling World War II “The War of Polish Aggression” long after everyone knows Germany fired the first shots, or that the Poles were the real aggressors because they failed to surrender quickly enough after Germany laid claim to their territory.

perhaps.

There’s a really clear agenda behind the ridiculous level of re-framing and denial you see around the Civil War. The Confederacy was the aggressor and attacked the United States, that part’s indisputable.

Fort Sumter was in the south. When south seceded, they thought the area was in their country. I think they gave the north time to get out of the fort, but of course the north was going to recognize the Confederacy. To the north, Fort Sumter was in America, to the South it was in the Confederacy. Thus disagreement and fighting ensued.

If you ignore the fact that Fort Sumter was federal property and wasn’t part of South Carolina to begin with (which is often done), then that’s what leads to the “the United States failed to surrender quickly enough after the Confederacy laid claim to their territory, therefore the North was the real aggressor” argument I referred to earlier.

The problem is that once you make the jump to the Constitutional right to secession, you’re already just making shit up, so why not add more like “states have the right to just take over federal property” while you’re at it, which people do. There is only one legal way to secede from the US – call a Constitutional Convention and re-write the Constitution to create this right. But that’s an intentionally high hurdle, and the Confederates decided to invent another lower legal standard known as “I can because I say so and I have an army”.

So why did they secede when even Lincoln may not have wanted to end slavery in the first place? They saw the writing on the wall – a long-term trend that was not in their favor, and Lincoln’s election was a strong indicator of that trend. By that point, the US had held onto slavery far longer than practically any other Western nation, but worldwide and national opinions were hardening against slavery and eventually the US would catch up. They saw that there would be a time – maybe not now, but soon – when white rule was not even seen as a desirable thing, let alone possible even for the people who did see it as desirable. Wait, no, I started writing about the 2016 election again. Dangit.

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#1103229
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Warbler said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcy7qV-BGF4

I don’t post this because I agree with it. I post it show that maybe, just maybe the cause of secession was bit more complicated than we think, just maybe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPOnL-PZeCc

You can always find someone who will retroactively apply some less ignoble cause onto the Confederacy. But the fact still stands that when the very people who seceded chose to publicly document exactly why they seceded, they cited slavery and white supremacy as their principal reasons, and also explicitly stated their direct opposition to the general principle of States’ Rights, only supporting it in a narrow sense as it applied specifically to the ownership of slaves. Looking for additional evidence when such plain and unambiguous documentation already exists seems like searching for a way to support a conclusion that’s already been reached. It’s like calling World War II “The War of Polish Aggression” long after everyone knows Germany fired the first shots, or that the Poles were the real aggressors because they failed to surrender quickly enough after Germany laid claim to their territory. There’s a really clear agenda behind the ridiculous level of re-framing and denial you see around the Civil War. The Confederacy was the aggressor and attacked the United States, that part’s indisputable. And it was about slavery and white supremacy, based on what the Confederates said it was about at the time.

All of that is a little beside the point of Confederate statues, which were erected during the Reign of Terror (the Jim Crow era), not by Confederates themselves, but by those who had largely given up on the idea of slavery and instead focused on white supremacy, suppressing voting rights, segregation, lynching, etc. The cause of the Confederate statues has very little to do with slavery and more to do with supporting the domestic terror campaign that erupted after the end of Reconstruction.

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#1103201
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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In happier news, both Daniel Borden and Alex Michael Ramos have been arrested for that white supremacist attack in Charlottesville (the one with the pipes in the garage). There were lots of attackers, and two is often the magic number to start identifying the rest. Let’s hope they’re all caught, especially the one who pulled the gun but ran when he realized he was being photographed.

The bad news is that the charge is malicious wounding.

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#1101002
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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chyron8472 said:

Case in point, if you watch the pilot episode of The Dukes of Hazzard, when they painted that car they painted what they called the “Rebel Flag” on top of it; and that whole show was basically about rebelling against the bumbling, incompetent county police and corrupt commissioner in a romantic sort of way.

Have you considered that the Dukes of Hazzard was a grossly oversimplified tale of the power struggle between the Klan and the Masons for the heart of Dixie?

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#1100882
Topic
Return of the Pug (ROTP) - webpage and screenshots (Released)
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I join Puggo in lamenting the death of Lightscribe. It’s Lightscribe media that’s hard to find. DVD-9’s are rare as hen’s teeth, and BD-R’s never came to be. DVD-5’s are all you can find, if you’re really desperate enough to try to keep that old tech alive.

We’re from the seventies, man. You should be glad we’ve graduated beyond passing around old Foghat 8-tracks.