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#734116
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Which version is better for the OT? Laserdisc or the limited edition 2006 2 disc dvd (GOUT)?
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It depends, there were lots of Laserdisc versions.  IIRC the Limited Editions (GOUT), video-wise, match the Definitive Edition LD's, except for the opening crawl of Star Wars.  Lots of people prefer the Japanese Special Collection LD's over the Definitive Editions, for example.  Also, the GOUT does not have theatrical English audio, so any pre-93 Laserdisc would be an improvement in that regard (but you might get 85 audio mix for Star Wars).  But no Laserdisc version has the theatrical crawl for Star Wars, so the GOUT is best in that respect.

Basically all home video releases of Star Wars fall short in some regard or another, even if you don't count the video quality that maxes out at Laserdisc-quality. You have to mix-and-match to get the best result. And that's why we're here.

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#733609
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Vader’s campaign for Parlament
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RRS-1980 said:

It's one thing to link to this news item (as it features Star Wars costumes), it's another to promote political campaign. This forum is about sci-fi film saga.

You've all just registered for this very reason: Paladin9009, DarkDroid, Ragenic, Silence, Trs, Pff, Melanie.

If some of our new users would like to verify or improve the quality of our Ukrainian subtitles, I'm willing to tolerate a little promotion. As long as nobody tries to eat my Salo, that is))

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#733478
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Is the Hobbit prequel trilogy suffering the same problems as the Star Wars prequel Trilogy?
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Gah, I fully expect film adaptations to alter the story, for a host of reasons: some things work better in film media than print media and vice-versa, presenting for different audiences, etc. Films that stay too close to their source material end up more like fan checklists than enjoyable works of art. See also: Potter, Harry.

Fatty Bolger, Tom Bombadil, the Barrow Downs, Scouring of the Shire, I was very pleased Jackson et al saw fit to cut all of these out. Let alone Tolkien's more overt royalism and racism.

Love all of the books, love some of the films. But I have no expectation that they will be identical.  IMO, that would have made for dreadful cinema.

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#733386
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Is the Hobbit prequel trilogy suffering the same problems as the Star Wars prequel Trilogy?
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Actually that's good news, to me at least.  I was never that impressed by the HFR in the Hobbit--to me, it didn't seem "more real" so much as "a different kind of fake". It was still so far removed from realistic motion that it seemed like a lot of effort for very little payoff--hardly worth retooling the film production chain for, especially when it was going to seem just as old and crusty as 24p once people got over the novelty and started clamoring to fix its shortcomings with an even higher framerate. 120p might just be sufficiently better to be worth it, IMO.

The bad news, of course, is that it involves sequels to Avatar for crying out loud.

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#732983
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Is the Hobbit prequel trilogy suffering the same problems as the Star Wars prequel Trilogy?
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stretch009 said:

The screeching lizard isn't in AOTC it's in ROTS.

Edit:  (3:45)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oGf-a1Dqlc

Wow. So it seems I remember absolutely nothing about AOTC. Which means it's now ahead of TPM as my new favorite prequel! Now if only I could forget the podrace or the lava duel!

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#732970
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Is the Hobbit prequel trilogy suffering the same problems as the Star Wars prequel Trilogy?
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timdiggerm said:

CatBus said:

There was a conveyor belt scene in AOTC? Seriously? Wow did that movie make no lasting impression.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K4GE9RMTZI

Can't tell if crappy fan edit or crappy real edit.

Seriously, that whole video triggered zero recollection for me. My only memory of the entire damn movie was an obnoxious screeching lizard, which was my cue for a bathroom break.  A pretend bathroom break, so that I could just get out of the theatre for a few minutes.  Maybe that scene was in the middle of the lizard scene?  If not, wow, no impression at all.

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#732960
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Help Wanted: Star Wars films with audio description. Can anyone help out??
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Okay, we have scripts. I've put out feelers for some voice talent, but if you know of anyone with a radio-friendly voice (and preferably experience, but you can't have everything) who'd be willing to help, let me know.

Complete trilogy commitment is needed, I want to avoid mix-and-match voices if I can help it. The scripts contain pronunciation cues for some of the more obscure Star Wars names (Rieekan, Ozzel, etc), so they don't even have to be a big Star Wars fan to do it, although I'm sure it wouldn't hurt.

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#732944
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Is the Hobbit prequel trilogy suffering the same problems as the Star Wars prequel Trilogy?
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Bingowings said:

The fashion for disliking The Hobbit is like the bashing Quantum of Solace got after the almost identical Casino Royale and before the almost identical Skyfall. It's just a popularity blip. 

That's taking things too far in the other direction. People who are disappointed by a mediocre film that pales in comparison to related films tend to exaggerate their dislike, saying it was awful/horrible/unwatchable, when its only real fault was being dull.  I'd agree with that*.

But to suggest that the dislike for the films is due more to the popular mood than an actual assessment of the film itself, well, that's just wrong. People just disagree on whether films are good or not, and sometimes you will find yourself in the minority. Just ask me about Cabin Boy sometime...

*EDIT: This statement is not to be interpreted as applying to the Prequels! No, those were well and truly awful.

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#732822
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Is the Hobbit prequel trilogy suffering the same problems as the Star Wars prequel Trilogy?
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They both suffer from serious problems, but not the same problems.

The Hobbitses just have poor editing.  Chop ~70% of the movies away and suddenly what seemed like crappy writing or over-reliance on CGI at the time would just be revealed to be the sort of uninteresting filler that would have been edited out under normal circumstances.  I'm sure if nothing was ever cut from the Lord of the Rings Trilogy, it would have fared no better.

The PT, on the other hand, has crappy writing, crappy acting, crappy directing, crappy CGI, mediocre music, boring sets, poor editing, etc.  It's not just bad, it's really a whole different level of awful.

Both, I'd agree, are symptomatic of creators operating without any outside checks on their ideas, or they'd have never seen the light of day.

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#732668
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Anyone else blase' about the New trilogy?
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.Mac. said:

I understand that many people are bitter about the PT, and rightfully so.

It's not just that, though (although it is mostly that). The other problem is that Return of the Jedi closed pretty much all of the OT storylines down.  Unlike Empire, which followed in the traditions of your classic serials by opening up more plotlines than it resolved, Jedi wrapped up the loose ends and put a nice bow on top of it for everyone.  The story was finished.  I didn't really want to see any more Star Wars movies after Jedi (for the same reason I really don't want to see a sequel to Casablanca--the story is already complete), and the prequels simply drew a line under that sentiment.

Anyone who makes a sequel pretty much has to create their own story. This is risky because people loved the old stories, and would accept continuations of those stories more easily than entirely new stories that just happen to have some of the same characters later in life.  Not saying it won't be good, just saying it's a tough act to follow.

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#732627
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International Audio (including Voice-Over Translations)
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The next versions of our major ROTJ preservations will be a few frames different than the current batch (they will use NTSC frames instead of PAL), so for all of the ROTJ dubs that I synced to the PAL frames, I have created new dubs synced to the NTSC frames.

This includes Polish, Russian (voiceover), Ukrainian, and Thai.

There are, of course, lots of others dubs out there that I did not personally sync, but at least the ones I did a preliminary check on are actually close enough to the NTSC frames (~20ms difference, even on audio from the PAL GOUT!) to not require any modification for this change.

Since the difference is, at maximum, only two frames, in my opinion it's only noticeable for audio with English dialogue anyway due to visible lip sync issues (English audio and voiceover dubs), so I probably didn't even need to modify the Thai dub.

Anyway, at the moment, these new dubs don't actually perfectly sync with any major preservation, but that will hopefully change soon.