CatBus

DrDre said:

So I would say if it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

Or a witch.

Something strange going on with Motti's eyes... but in general, yeah, I like these better than your previous iterations.

hairy_hen said:

The answer to this is 'all of the above', but the source must remain undisclosed.

HELL-o...!

TV's Frink said:

What have I done?

You have finally achieved Maximum Derailment!

And they said it couldn't be done...

PM sent.

PM sent. Yes, we have complete Japanese subtitles for all three films, but for ROTJ they are still currently graphical-only.  I've contacted my Japanese translator recently and they are still on board with making text subs for ROTJ, but no timeframe yet.

Beyond the normal motion blur of an LCD display? 'Cause that dwarfs most other motion artifacts IMO.

PM sent.

I don't really have an SRT-only download, but I PM'd a smaller alternate link that may work.

PM sent.

Crap, now I have to change my password.

Darth Lucas said:

Could be a cool feature for ANH.

Yeah, but it doesn't work very well for SW. ;)

LeChuck: PM sent.

When tsMuxer creates subtitles from SRT files, it has limitations.  Usually not very important limitations, but occasionally critical.  For example, it's limited to one font for all subtitles.  I've found Arial works really well for Latin, Cyrillic, Greek, Arabic and Hebrew, but Thai is way better in Tahoma.  And CJK languages all need totally different fonts.  Then there's sizes.  Thai and Arabic typically use a larger font size than your typical Latin text, because that makes them easier to read.  I also do some text alignment business that tsMuxer can't do at all.  Then there's the black background on SDH subtitles, repositioning subs for alien dialogue, Japanese subs for ROTJ not even being available in text format yet, and so on...

All of this is, to some degree, my personal preference, but I read up on things and like to think it's a least a somewhat informed preference for how things should look.  I'm always going to suggest using the SUP files if it's even remotely possible.  The SRT files really only exist for when the SUP files won't work for you.

I PM'd a link to the complete Project Threepio.  Don't use the SRT files at all, use the SUP files in the SUP-720p subfolder, which are already pre-rendered with the right font, size, positioning, etc, and work with tsMuxer.

I believe Harmy's done an '81 crawl/flyover reconstruction already (I have no link though), but it's not attached to the rest of the film. I think the goal was to have it as an extra in the Blu-ray, but I'm sure an enterprising individual could splice them together.  I'd have a lot fewer issues with the '81 crawl if it didn't screw up Tatooine appearing in time with the musical cue, which is, at least to me, indicative of the general carelessness for the originals that pervades every change made to these films.  And a lot of us saw Star Wars in theatres before 1981... many times.

The Blu-ray format doesn't encode freeform metadata into the stream.  The idea is that it would be on the menus, so there's no need.  But on a menuless disc, well...

There is actually some limited metadata.  You've got language, which the player will show, and you've got type of audio encoding and number of channels (derived from the actual audio track, you can't set this), which they player may or may not show, but that's about it.  No dates, no general-purpose text comments field.

Yes, that info is lost, but the Blu-ray can't have the information anyway, unless you make a custom menu for it.  The Blu-ray we're talking about making is an menuless auto-play Blu-ray, where the only way to select alternate audio/sub tracks is to use the AUDIO and SUBTITLES buttons on your remote.  Something more complicated is, well, more complicated.

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Harmy said:

Well, TS Muxer automatically converts subtitles when you create a BD.

No there's still reasons not to go that route.  When tsMuxer converts SRT files, there's font/size/positioning/layout/etc information that tsmuxer does which can be wrong under some circumstances.  Fonts are most likely decent if you stick with Latin/Cyrillic alphabets, but venture too far outside that and you could be in for trouble (CJK subs should not use the same font as each other, for example).  tsmuxer's positioning choices may overlap subtitles on top of onscreen text (burnt-in alien subs), making them harder to read, or it may position them outside the frame, making them unusable in CIH systems.  It's likely not the end of the world for most users to let tsmuxer handle it, but if you're going through the trouble of burning a BD, you may as well be certain it'll end up right.

Just to add: for those who want to make Blu-rays and want subtitles, download Project Threepio to get Blu-ray ready subtitles in graphical SUP format.  If you try to use the SRT files, you can run into all sorts of trouble.

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There is a difference in the goal of the changes.  The 04 and 11 changes were mostly done to tie the OT to the PT.  The 97 changes, while IMO completely inexcusable, were not done for that reason.  So if you're cool with certain kinds of vandalism, there is a difference in kind where the 97 version is different.

Also, from a restoration POV, the 97 versions contain some useful scenes that were subsequently altered, and the colors and audio hadn't yet been destroyed, all of which are useful for re-creating the real films.

Also, FWIW, full disclosure, I like one 97 change.  I like that James Earl Jones got a credit for voicing Vader.  The rest was crap.

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Danfun128 said:

CatBus said:

97SE DVDs

Do you know how much easier everybody's lives would be if those were a thing? I'm assuming, of course, that you are referring to official DVD's that don't exist.

I follow all developments with the Special Editions with such care that this is news to me.