Caston

Like others who have posted in here, I too would rather more screen time given to highlighting Anakin and Obi-Wan’s friendship in the PT films themselves, in build-up for a more satisfying and impactful and payoff for their eventual duel in ROTS, than some dumb needless droid factory scene that ran for 5 uninterrupted minutes in AOTC.

A 5 minute scene which in itself was filmed in post-production to correct some perceived issues, and yet offered little impact to the story or characters.

‘George Lucas should get more credit for “saving Anakin Skywalker” in Star Wars: The Clone Wars’?
 

I believe credit should also go to Genndy Tartakovsky for his 2003 Clone Wars series.

He was the original guy who showed an actual credible and authentic friendship and brotherhood between Anakin and Obi-Wan on screen. From Obi-Wan suggesting to the Jedi Council that Anakin be made a Master and then arguing for him vs the Council Members. Their fighting together as a team, both their contrasting approaches working as an effective duo is also showcased well. And despite Anakin’s issues with the Jedi’s ‘overbearing’ approach at times, their confiding to each other they both miss Qui-Gon is a heart warming emotional moment. Obi-Wan preparing Anakin for his mission on Nelvan too showed how much he cared for Anakin and wanted him to succeed:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1XDh-MW5ug - despite the series being a fast-paced action orientated series, it still showcased that.

Anakin also comes across as more more caring and compassionate for others around him. An all round more likeable, charismatic, and believable Jedi, than we saw in the PT films themselves.
 

Yes, these were all things Lucas and Filoni showed more often and in more detail in their 2008 Clone Wars projects, but Genndy should also be credited too. Perhaps even more so given he was the original creative to highlight that believable and evolving relationship on screen, showing that it could be accomplished, and perhaps even inspiring Lucas to do more of that for his later 2008 project?
 

So credit to Lucas for trying to fix his mistakes and issues with the PT in the 2008 TCW, but these were problems of his own making. And the initial “fixes” were based on someone else’s attempt to show Anakin in a far batter light than previously seen, despite them being were later retconned and rewritten so Lucas & Filoni could do it their way for the 2008 TCW.

That’s not ignoring there being a writers’ room for TCW. People often think Filoni wrote much of TCW, yet he didn’t (he directed around twice as many episodes than he wrote). Christian Taylor, Henry Gilroy, Drew Greenberg, Scott Murphy, Katie Lucas, and Steven Melching all feature in writing a lot of the episodes.
 

The Clone Wars messes up continuity or how Lucas is still destroying Star Wars - 2011 OT thread

Clone Wars (2003 animated series by Genndy Tartakovsky) - a general discussion thread - 2005 OT thread

2003 Clone Wars vs 2008 The Clone Wars - 2014 OT thread

Respawn Star Wars FPS Is Single-Player & Inspired by Dark Forces Games - in The Escapist, March 2023.

 
‘The single-player Star Wars first-person shooter in development at Respawn Entertainment will be inspired by FPS games like Star Wars: Dark Forces and Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2, according to a recent LinkedIn job post. The post, which seeks to recruit a lead technical artist for the project, also provides more hints about the AAA story-driven title, including that it will utilize Unreal Engine 5. You can read the full description of the currently untitled project below:’

In collaboration with Lucasfilm, the Star Wars FPS Team is developing a new AAA FPS in the Star Wars galaxy. Inspired by classic titles like Dark Forces and Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2, our story-driven single player game is being developed from the ground up leveraging the power of Unreal Engine 5. We’re combining this inspiration and technology with Respawn’s pedigree for making best-in-class shooters to deliver a brand new experience our players will love.

Respawn has played coy about sharing more information about its Star Wars FPS, but that shouldn’t be a cause for concern. The developer has spent the last decade making a name for itself as one of the best FPS developers in the industry with the Titanfall series and its battle royale spinoff, Apex Legends. The unnamed Star Wars FPS, which is being led by Peter Hirschmann, seems to at least tap into the roots of Star Wars FPS gaming, so players are probably safe to stay calm until we learn more.’

There hasn’t been much news on this FPS game at all, likely down to Jedi Survivor release. I’m hoping this game kicks into gear and we’ll be hearing more about it soon. Count me in for a classic style Star Wars FPS any day! It appears they’re hiring senior developers and designers for the game, which is good news:

https://diversity.com/career/1163991/Sr-Combat-Designer-Star-Wars-Fps-California-Ca-Los-Angeles

You guys should see the actual cardback figure for Vader from Hasbro, released to celebrate the 40th anniversary of ROTJ:
 

^ from https://twitter.com/StarWarsVisComp/status/1679545606900002818 - looks like Hayden’s head to me too!

a 15 minute review video of the figure - www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDYwb6UFHGI

(comparisons of this Hayden Vader head with the last model of Sebastian Shaw Vader head start at 3 minutes into the video)

^ Left: is the head model of the previous release for the Vader figure from Return of the Jedi.
Right: is the head model of the 40th anniversary release for the Vader figure from Return of the Jedi.

Most video reviewers also refer to Sebastian Shaw as “Sebastian Stan” for some reason. And don’t realise that the image of Vader used on the front of the card is from the 2004 Special Edition either, and not from the the 1983 original theatrical cut… which is the actual version of the film having its 40th anniversary.

^ Left: Vader from 1983 (the 40th anniversary). Right: Vader from the 2004 Special Edition (not the 40th anniversary)

Slaughtering a room full of children would be an automatic disqualifier for the title of “the greatest Jedi ever”.

Or butchering an entire village years earlier: “I killed them. I killed them all. They’re dead, every single one of them. And not just the men, but the women and the children, too. They’re like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals!”

Force-choking his pregnant wife.
 

For me, Anakin was a terrible Jedi.

EC Henry really does do some great videos on the Original Trilogy. Thanks for the reminder to go and watch some more of them!

Emre16O1 said:

Caston said:

Both satisfying watch and reads, thanks Emre.

The https://twitter.com/newsandor fan account you recommended is a really useful resource for anything Andor related too.

I can’t see it anymore. I’m not actually on Twitter, I just bookmark some accounts I liked. Twitter’s recent changes to the settings means only people with accounts can see tweets, accounts or information.

I hope that changes soon, another platform takes Twitter’s place, or AndorNews and others find another new home.

Ah, that sucks. Hope that changes too.

Master Samwise dropped another “Andor/Kenobi” comparison video a couple of weeks back. Well worth watching if you haven’t yet seen it. And thanks again for highlighting his channel and those writing/direction comparison videos.

The Pitch Meeting videos too; the Mandalorian, Kenobi, and Fett videos. I found myself smiling and nodding along throughout.

https://apnews.com/article/diego-luna-andor-interview-9f91b1f4b3a71a47ca5167f9767a848e was an enjoyable read.

Spartacus01 said:

Caston, I was not trying to say that George is infallible and never made mistakes. I’m well aware of the fact that sometimes he lied and made bad decisions. In fact, I agree with what you said about George lying about the EU and mistreating the EU authors and the EU fans. I also agree with you about the fact that he lied when he said that Star Wars was always supposed to be about Anakin. All I was trying to say is that I vastly prefer George over Disney, and that it’s not George’s fault if Star Wars is bad today.

Thanks, I’m not trying to argue with you. I’m merely pointing you to some threads that have more information, though was a little baffled why you ignored much of Minch’s post, and maybe give a you a little insight into my understanding too.

And that Minch was highlighting issues with modern Star Wars at the hands of of Kennedy and Filoni, and was not so much referring to George, for being at fault on that.

(Unless Minch meant George can be blamed for choosing Kennedy to be his successor, and Dave Filoni as his writing “apprentice”?)

George erasing the contribution of Marcia Lucas and others in Star Wars?

I don’t remember George ever denying that Marcia had a great role in the development of the Original Trilogy. I think that all he wanted to erase was the notion that the Original Trilogy was good despite of him, and not because of him. Especially because there are some people (I’m not talking about you specifically) that seem to think that the Original Trilogy was good exclusively because of Marcia. I think that George’s intent was not trying to erase the contributions of Marcia and others to the Original Trilogy, but simply making it clear that he always was the head of the editing process, and that if the Original Trilogy ended up like we know it today was ultimately because of him, since he always had to approve everything before it was done.

That is more a “fan thing” or “fan view” which came about much later, long after Marcia’s contributions were already erased or downplayed. If it wasn’t for The Secret History of Star Wars, Charles Lippincott, and Gary Kurtz, it is likely Marcia’s contributions may have stayed erased or downplayed a lot longer. Although many of us are aware of the some of the sheer hate and vitriol that appears whenever her name is merely mentioned, in some quarters.

Have you seen the recent “Icons Unearthed” documentary? Marcia herself is on record as saying George had erased her from history. There is also some insight into her doing more editing work on the OT films than some previously thought, especially for ROTJ.

I did link to the threads that demonstrate this in my previous post. Also about Lippincott’s role, and also Gary Kurtz being erased/downplayed too in official Lucasfilm history, among others. Others have already highlighted this far better than I can.

I haven’t heard of claims that “the OT good exclusively because of Marcia”, that is used as some sort of justification for that vitriol? (I’m a little lost as to why your brought that up otherwise?). I think we all agree that anyone who worked and contributed to the films should have their efforts highlighted, and not downplayed or erased by George or Lucasfilm. Nor face vitriol from fans, out of some misguided or misplaced loyalty to George, for simply doing that work. Unfortunately, it seems to be a common theme for some Prequel fans or George zealots, as shown in that OT Index thread I linked to.

George creating the Special Edition and then attempting to erase the unaltered cuts of the OT?

George attempting to erase the original cuts of the Original Trilogy? Sure, that’s something I don’t like either, and I obviously criticize George for that. But creating Special Editions was a legit decision, especially because there were some things that absolutely needed to be changed (for example, Palpatine’s appearance in Empire Strikes Back). The fact that George added changes to the original movies is not bad per se. What’s bad is the fact that he always changed his mind all the time, was not able to agree with himself about the definitive changes he wanted to introduce to the movies, and tried to erase the original versions. But other than that, I don’t think that creating Special Editions was a bad idea in itself, as well as declaring the Special Editions as the Canon version of the movies.

Well, no, the Special Editions weren’t a “legit decision” as soon as they went past fixing errors, matte lines and technical issues. Although I didn’t specify, and I should have made it clearer, I was pointing to threads which highlight that George changed the vision of the other directors and creatives who worked on Empire and Jedi.

That George is on record as saying "A director should be able to change his films - but nobody else”.

And as demonstrated in those linked threads, and the recent discussion posted above, that George had already made changes to Kersh’s Empire and Marquand’s Jedi when he said the above. And George has made even more alterations since then, in that original conversation about film preservation.

Obviously both directors’ original work are still not available to watch on a modern home media format, because of those Special Editions and George’s "vision"™. As well as George’s refusal to release the original theatrical cuts or simply release all the various different cuts that many fans have grown up with, and been available to them at one time or another.

For some reason you appear to have completely skipped over or ignored Minch’s above points?

It’s not that I skipped those points, it’s just that I was not arguing against the idea that George made bad decisions and sometimes lied, so I didn’t need to talk about that. My point was completely different.

Fair enough. I was a little baffled why you seemed to think “but to blame him for the total mess that Star Wars has become today is exaggerated”, when Minch wasn’t really referring to that. He’d clearly stated that was at the door of Kathleen Kennedy and Dave Filoni, in the modern Disney-owned era.

He accused some fans of making up claims the films had racist stereotypes in TPM because they simply didn’t like Jar Jar? Or something along those lines? I’d have to look it up to be sure, so I could be likely wrong on that.

George is on record saying he wants his things his own way and doesn’t really care what the fans think. Something about throwing rocks at him, so he will do it his way or something? There are interviews and articles that appear in threads on here where George is being a prick to fans with his choices, decisions and reasoning. He seems to have got more prickly, to appearing to have had some sort of character change around the time of the SE’s and PT. Those OT Index and TCvsSE Index threads on here have a lot of the articles, quotes and interviews, if you’re interested.

What does this have to do with what I said before? I simply said that George has never accused the fans who didn’t like the Prequel Trilogy of being the reason of why he decided to sell Star Wars, and what you just said does not disprove my thesis. I’m not saying that George didn’t criticize the fans that didn’t like the Prequels, I’m simply saying that he didn’t say that they were the reason of why he decided to sell Star Wars. That’s it.

Your post did not come off as reading like that: “Also, George has never blamed the fans who don’t like the Prequel Trilogy for anything.” is why I replied to that line. Again just giving you more information you may not have been aware of.

Disney calls anyone who doesn’t appreciate the Sequel Trilogy a “fake fan”, a “racist”, or a “sexist”? You’re obviously being hyperbolic with that claim. They’ve called out the racism, sexism, and some disingenuous fan views? (for money or subscribers?) for when they saw it that at the time. Good for them.

I know that some Disney employees accused everyone who doesn’t like the Sequel Trilogy and Rey’s character to be a sexist. I have seen some screenshots along those lines with some Disney-owned Lucasfilm employees talking that way in regards to the fans. Not to mention, Pablo Hidalgo often bullied and mocked EU fans in the past years, especially on Twitter. All I was trying to say is that this kind of stuff didn’t happen when Lucasfilm was still in control of George. Because let’s be honest guys, George’s harshest criticism of the fans who didn’t like the Prequel Trilogy was that they didn’t understand the movies. That’s all. But he never openly mocked them, and never denied the fact that they were true fans with the right to enjoy what they want.

“some Disney employees accused everyone who didn’t like the Sequel Trilogy is sexist?”

Do you have these screenshots? I see this come up time and time again online, but nobody posts the actual proof.

Hang on, “Disney” or “Disney employees”? Or “Disney owned Lucafilm employees”? This seems to be shifting as at first you said Disney (as in the company). But it will still be interesting to see this proof or screenshots that everyone who doesn’t like their ST films are “fake fans”, “racist”, or “sexist”, either way.

I still think you’re being hyperbolic with that claim, but am more than happy to be proved wrong.

If you want to see George’s “intellectually honesty” give Minch’s post another read, then that “GL Unreliable Narrator and Time Travelling Revisionist” thread and the OT Index a read, also. He may be more honest than Disney? But still, a low bar.

Yeah… No. What you said here has no relevance to my point, because I was not talking about George’s intellectual honesty in general, I was simply talking about his intellectual honesty in regards to the fans who didn’t like the Prequels.

It does have relevance. I said it appears George accused some fans of making up claims TPM had racist stereotypes in them because they simply didn’t like Jar Jar? So there you have it: George’s “intellectual honesty in regards to fans who didn’t like the Prequels”.

For good measure I also threw in links to more information where George’s intellectual honesty in general could be questioned too. Although I did say George may be more honest than Disney (in comparison). “But still, a low bar”. Which is something I think we can both agree on.
 

I don’t want to derail Minch’s thread further, or sidetrack from what he meant (although I don’t fully understand a couple of his points in his OP myself). If you’d like to continue please send me a PM, and I’d be happy to talk more.

My god, I’ve rattled on. Sorry about that, Minch.

Mocata said:

He got billions of dollars and is now more revered than he ever was before. Selling out only cemented his status as the creator of the real Star Wars. Soon he will open a museum celebrating this kind of false narrative. I don’t think a karmic blacklash is heading his way any time soon.

Sadly, yes. Dammit karma, you’re failing at karma.

Is that museum thing of his still going ahead? That’ll be interesting to see any new “it was always meant to be like this” claims from him on Star Wars history.

Well, Spartacus01, you are half right, and somehow also more than half wrong. Somehow. I’m not quite sure.

Spartacus01 said:

Firstly, what’s really bad is not the Karma for George, but the total lack of punctuation in your post.

Secondly, we can say many things about George, but to blame him for the total mess that Star Wars has become today is exaggerated. If Star Wars today is mostly bad, it’s not George’s fault but fault of who is directing and writing Star Wars nowadays. Since they’re in control of Star Wars, then they are also responsible for what’s happening with Star Wars today. It is not Lucas’ fault if the Sequels are bad, it is fault of who wrote and directed the Sequels. It is not Lucas’ fault if The Mandalorian is a mediocre show, it is fault of who wrote and directed The Mandalorian. It is not Lucas’ fault if the Kenobi series is unwatchable, it is fault of the people who wrote and directed the Kenobi series. Everyone has to take responsibility for their own actions, so blaming Lucas for something he didn’t do is intellectually dishonest.

Absolutely, It could be argued TFA being a re-tread of the OT because the makers felt needed to distance the film from the low quality and much derided Prequels (which at the time were the last Star Wars films released), made by George.

Minch also says Kathleen Kennedy and the likes of Dave Filoni are to blame for the more recent, current state of Star Wars. So Minch isn’t solely blaming George “for the total mess that Star Wars has become today”.
 

But the rest of your above post, you are correct. Although that is not what Minch posted in his, uh, list of grievances?:-

George erasing the contribution of Marcia Lucas and others in Star Wars? ✔️
George creating the Special Edition and then attempting to erase the unaltered cuts of the OT? ✔️
George attempting to discredit EU authors and make the EU non-canon (yet also happy to profit from it)? ✔️
George lying about number of episodes & all being thought out etc, then “I never thought of anything” for the ST? ✔️
George lying saying novels isn’t how he’d do the ST, despite him being the one to suggest it (& contribute to it)? ✔️
George lying when saying Star Wars “was always really the tragedy of Darth Vader”? ✔️
George discrediting other creatives and EU works with “the Emperor doesn’t get cloned & Luke doesn’t get married.”? ✔️
George contradicting himself about what is Canon (+ playing down other creatives licensed work he profited from)? ✔️
George stating SW/EU is like “the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost?” (I don’t get it, but George did say it.) ✔️
George says SW is “Tragedy of Darth Vader”, money changing his perspective & story (Leia being the Chosen One in his ST) ✔️

For some reason you appear to have completely skipped over or ignored Minch’s above points?

Also, George has never blamed the fans who don’t like the Prequel Trilogy for anything. He never said that the fans who didn’t like the Prequels are the reason he sold Star Wars. He has always reiterated that he sold Star Wars because he was tired, and wanted to spend his old age with his family.

He accused some fans of making up claims the films had racist stereotypes in TPM because they simply didn’t like Jar Jar? Or something along those lines? I’d have to look it up to be sure, so I could be likely wrong on that.

George is on record saying he wants his things his own way and doesn’t really care what the fans think. Something about throwing rocks at him, so he will do it his way or something? There are interviews and articles that appear in threads on here where George is being a prick to fans with his choices, decisions and reasoning. He seems to have got more prickly, to appearing to have had some sort of character change around the time of the SE’s and PT. Those OT Index and TCvsSE Index threads on here have a lot of the articles, quotes and interviews, if you’re interested.

I thought part of his reasoning he gave for selling up was to go make smaller independent experimental films, films he wanted to make. Family too, likely. He didn’t seem too bothered about selling Lucasfiim to “white slavers”, but did get a bit flustered when they later turned down his Sequel ideas (Leia as the retconned prophesied “Chosen One”, really?).
 

In fact, I believe that George was more intellectually honest than many of the people who work for Disney Star Wars, because contrary to Disney, which calls anyone who doesn’t appreciate the Sequel Trilogy a “fake fan”, a “racist”, or a “sexist”, George always said that even the fans who despised the Prequels should be considered fans, and always called them fans, even in the interviews in which he openly criticize them.

Disney calls anyone who doesn’t appreciate the Sequel Trilogy a “fake fan”, a “racist”, or a “sexist”? You’re obviously being hyperbolic with that claim. They’ve called out the racism, sexism, and some disingenuous fan views? (for money or subscribers?) for when they saw it that at the time. Good for them.

They know the Sequels haven’t been well received overall, and seem quite accepting of that criticism, or the film makers do, at least. I, just like many others, have criticized the ST at times, and yet Disney have never called me a racist, sexist or fake fan. Likely those many others too.

“George was more intellectually honest than many of the people who work for Disney Star Wars”. That is a low bar, all around!

If you want to see George’s “intellectually honesty” give Minch’s post another read, then that “GL Unreliable Narrator and Time Travelling Revisionist” thread and the OT Index a read, also. He may be more honest than Disney? But still, a low bar.
 

 
Genius, visionary, dedicated, generous? Yes, George is all those things. Liar, revisionist, carries a grudge, selective memory. Yes those too. Almost like he is human, just like the rest of us.

A truly great team of creatives and talents around him in the early days too. People who questioned him, challenged him, and offered him alternative solutions to problems. “Like lightning or magic in a bottle”, I’ve seen it described on here.

JadedSkywalker said:

Vader hunting down and killing the Jedi instead of order 66, Anakin’s wife living and going to Alderaan with Leia. I wish i could find the article talking about it. The one Lucas came up with in the 1980s. It also has Palpatine as a Nixon type who subverts a democracy.

I believe it might be touched upon in Paul Duncan’s book but i don’t have that one myself.

Is it one of these?

Star Wars prequels were mapped out in 1981, only nothing like the way they turned out - from Rinzler’s Making Of ROTJ book.

Interesting Hypothesis of the Prequels Story from the Mid 90’s - John L. Flynn’s PT story

There are more similar threads in the ‘General Prequel Trilogy Discussion’ part of the An Index for Beyond the Original Trilogy, so it could be in there if it isn’t in the above two threads?

Some good deals on older classic Star Wars games. Until 7 July:-
 

"The Star Wars Collection", 14 games for $21

www.gamespot.com/articles/get-14-star-wars-games-for-1-50-each/1100-6504813

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
Star Wars: Republic Commando
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II
Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast
Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II
Star Wars Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith
Star Wars: Dark Forces
Star Wars: Empire at War
Star Wars: Battlefront II (2005)
Star Wars: Starfighter
Star Wars: The Clone Wars - Republic Heroes

Star Wars Jedi Knight Collection, 5 games for €4.19

https://www.fanatical.com/en/game/star-wars-jedi-knight-collection

Star Wars: Dark Forces
Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II
Star Wars Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith Expansion
Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast
Star Wars Jedi Knight - Jedi Academy

Star Wars Classics Collection, 9 games for €8.39

https://www.fanatical.com/en/game/star-wars-classics-collection

X-Wing Special Edition
TIE Fighter Special Edition
X-Wing Alliance™
X-Wing vs TIE Fighter - Balance of Power Campaigns™
STAR WARS Rebellion
STAR WARS Galactic Battlegrounds Saga
Rebel Assault I + II
Rogue Squadron 3D

The Princess Leia dress that went to auction, failed to sell, falling just short of the reserve price.
 

An original Princess Leia dress, expected to fetch $2 million at auction, went unsold

www.npr.org/2023/06/28/1184781055/princess-leia-dress-star-wars-auction
 

 
'The gown had been expected to fetch up to $2 million, with bids closing Wednesday. But things didn’t quite pan out the way people had expected.

Instead, the dress went unsold, having failed to meet the seller’s minimum sale price. Bidders stopped short of the minimum price its owners required to make a sale ($1 million), with a final bid amount of $975,000.

Propstore, the company behind the auction, said it was still actively accepting post-auction offers on the dress.

“It may be sold after the auction in a private-treaty sale, or may be re-offered again in a future auction,” the company said in a statement to NPR.’

JadedSkywalker said:

I know Lucasfilm usually does their own in house stuff, but they should have the people who restored Cinderella restore the OT theatrical cuts. Hand it off to Disney. For the first time that movie looks like film again in 4K. They should do that as little DNR as possible, and include the original audio. Just remove the garbage mattes but no other fixes.

That would be cool to see.

It also seemed that Lucasfilm may have their own OT theatrical cut scan, going on what some people say who watched the recent Icons Unearthed documentary. A small number of scenes appeared in their pre-1997 format in that doc. You have to wonder, or hope, that Lucasfilm or Disney have a scan ready for release. Or at least for internal use, and for highlighting that original theatrical work.

Both satisfying watch and reads, thanks Emre.

The https://twitter.com/newsandor fan account you recommended is a really useful resource for anything Andor related too.

Emre16O1 said:

I love the old “triple bill” posters, so simple, so effective, and could still be used for any re-release 40 years on:
 

That is it! For some years I’ve been thinking about, and looking for, the ROTJ logo that “receded” like various logos for the other two Original Trilogy films did. I thought I had made it up, was mistaken, or saw some fan art somewhere and confused it with what I thought I has seen on an official poster or art. Or some wishful thinking for my OCD-like love for some uniformity.

The triple bill posters! Ha!

Thanks for nice words guys. I enjoyed reading your astute post too, Emre.

The whole “The Legendary Star Wars Expanded Universe Turns a New Page” Legends/Canon idea back in 2014, was meant to keep the all the stories more consistent and interconnected, sitting along side with their film and television content. Yet Filoni has re-written and retconned over some of that new canon content for his projects, most of which were unnecessary to the actual stories being told.

Lucasfilm’s idea in 2014 at implementing “internal consistency” for their content, “interconnected storytelling”, “coordinating creative development”, and being a “creatively aligned program of Star Wars storytelling”; all of which appear in the linked announcement above, seems to have been either lost, ignored, or simply voided, some time ago.

^ I’ll add that to my other post above, it probably reads better in there.
 

And there is still no valid reason why any of the original creatives and their work should not be credited or referenced when it is being used and rewritten for in new Star Wars content. Sorry, I don’t mean to sound like a stuck record!

Watching some of those brought back some happy memories. It was also great to see some of that old style artwork again too!

“Disney Gallery: Season 3 of Mandalorian” is out on Disney+ on June 28.

The 30 second trailer at Star Wars YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVnTWuVPPkM
 

I don’t think I’d have bothered to watch this if it wasn’t for Acbagel’s detective work above. There could be some more clues and footage in this Disney Gallery doc, in among the usual “everything is great” claims and usual format for these docs?

Still next to nothing for Andor.

Interesting that Favreau claims nobody wants to see the theatrical cuts of the Original Trilogy a few weeks back, but is happy to hire the talents who worked on the OT films, and then to promote that for his own series.

spam added to a quoted post:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/What-if-the-prequels-were-made-in-the-80s/id/96961/page/1#1543856

https://originaltrilogy.com/user/fordcrafting/id/78535 - 3 posts, some spam added to quoted post and in regular post

Thinking on this, a TON of credit should go to the preservationists, editors, tech guys, audio wiz’s, subtitle providers, and all the knowledge and experience of the fans on here and on the sister sites who have put together so many great projects over time, just to get to this point.

That many people probably trust the wizards on here to do a better job than any likely official Lucasfilm release of the OOT.

Which is weird, to say the least. All the very much deserved and well earnt credit to them.

Come on Lucasfilm. Time to up your game! And to also release the unaltered theatrical cuts with the best possible QA. 😉