CamSMurph the plan is the same as the last time I answered this same question from you.
I’ll take that as a “no”, then. 😅
I hope you’ll take extra care this coming winter. Flu season is right around the corner and we wouldn’t want to end up back to square one. 🤞
I had not been in this thread for quite a while, and I am sorry to hear about any health issues and would like to wish you the best.
Hal thank you! Luckily I’m slowly bouncing back from severe pneumonia (and pulmonary embolism) and tests came back negative for cancer. So I’m doing much better.
Does this mean you’re foregoing your planned retirement from fan editing?
No, or at least not unless something changes on MR’s end. His computer is kaput and he expressed a desire to retain a few things for his own fan edit. And while that moment is cool and insanely well done, it doesn’t bear in any of the other changes and is okay not to get.
Well, shit, Hal! It’s been five months now and MR has been shit out of luck since then. I have no idea what’s going on with him now, but I hope his holidays go along as smoothly as they can in his current situation. 😧
I’m not waiting on anything from jonh for the ghosts. The only shot that was affected by his upgraded work has been put in place.
Right, right. 😅
How are the VFX coming along? I believe it’s Rey’s eyes and Anakin’s saber that’s left. Unless I’m forgetting something else. I promise I’ll be patient.
Well, the Phantom Four by jonh still needs an upgrade. 🙃
Wasn’t that one side shot of Anakin already upgraded back in May?
I know, but I wonder if he’s been able to work on something else. 😃
How are the VFX coming along? I believe it’s Rey’s eyes and Anakin’s saber that’s left. Unless I’m forgetting something else. I promise I’ll be patient.
Well, the Phantom Four by jonh still needs an upgrade. 🙃
Has jonh reached back with his updated force ghost VFX yet? 🤔
May I please grab a link to v3.0, good sir? 😃
I didn’t mean to derail, my intention in posting all of what I said was that I think what we have locked for v2 now is a significant improvement over the original while still residing within what was ultimately decided for the film. My two cents is that a lot of these other ideas on Palpatine’s plan have their merits, but may belong in a Starlight/Rekindled branch of this project.
Poppa should get on that, actually. See what he can do with the material at his disposal.
That’s what I like about Hal’s edits: they don’t deviate too much from the original film, they mostly seek to enhance what’s already there.
“Truer to the filmmakers’ intentions?” 🤨
Don’t mean to speak for JarJar but I don’t really understand the confusion here.
What were J.J.'s intentions for TFA exactly?
Again, I do like this idea and wish it could be fully realized without seams. But by this point my TFA edit is a diet version of Nev’s Starlight, and my TLJ edit is a diet version of poppasketti’s Rekindled, so I wonder what this edit will end up a diet version of??
I don’t see them as Diet Hal, without your hard work we wouldn’t have half of what we have. I haven’t been around the forums as long as a lot of you but have seen enough to know that almost all editors take inspiration from your edits and even use them as their main to work off.
As for TROS this seems to be the fan bases main thread.
Neither do I. In fact, I’m planning on continuing to use Restructured because it’s truer to the original filmmakers intentions.
That’s what I like about Hal’s edits: they don’t deviate too much from the original film, they mostly seek to enhance what’s already there.
“Truer to the filmmakers’ intentions?” 🤨
Holy shit, there are a lot of ideas on how to revise Palpatine’s master plan, aren’t there? I wonder whose will ultimately come out on top before V2 is locked and ready for release? 😃
I’ve been hoping that Warner Bros would do something like this, or even better, release even more deleted scenes that people haven’t seen yet, while also putting a little money into the unfinished VFX. You’d be spending even less money than over $50 million on reconstructing Zack Snyder’s cut of Justice League. But, it seems like they’re not going to do anything special like that to celebrate the 20th anniversary of Philosopher’s Stone.
A man can dream, though. A man can dream. 😔
By this point my TFA edit is a diet version of Nev’s Starlight, and my TLJ edit is a diet version of poppasketti’s Rekindled, so I wonder what this edit will end up a diet version of??
Yes… I wonder? 🤔
Maybe krausfadr or Acbagel will step up to the plate, I dunno. 🤷♂️
I think they should just release new extended cuts of all eight movies on HBO Max already. I’ve been hoping to see an official DH two-in-one extended cut called The Deathly Hallows, released in a similar vein to Zack Snyder’s Justice League.
Okay, okay… I’m spitballing here, it might sound crazy… but what if we’re approaching this backwards? What if the most straightforward way to sell Palpatine’s plan is to actually take him at his word at the end, and instead remove all traces of him wanting Rey dead?
Opening on Exogol: Palpatine offers the fleet “if you do as I ask.” Kylo, after a moment considering it, silently lowers his saber in agreement. Palpatine smiles menacingly to end the scene: a deal has been struck, but we the audience don’t know what. We can still guess, however, that it could be Rey-related, because Hal’s edit transitions right into Rey meditating.
Board room meeting now has a new context to it. When an officer asks Kylo what the Emperor wants, Kylo silences him immediately. We the audience don’t know what Kylo and the Emperor’s deal was, so we don’t know that Kylo’s outburst is unreasonable; on the contrary, we’re now more intrigued that Kylo is keeping this so secretive.
When Palpatine chastises Kylo after Pasaana, remove references to killing Rey. Full remaining dialog:
“Perhaps you have betrayed me. Do not make me turn my fleet against you.”
“I know where she’s going. She will never be a Jedi.”
“Make sure of it.”
We now know for certain, though we already suspected, that Kylo’s agreement involves Rey somehow. The threat, however, is still vague.From here out, Kylo mentions twice aboard his ship on Kijimi that Palpatine tried to kill Rey as a kid, reveals that she’s a Palpatine, and suggests that they should team up instead. We think we get it now: not only is this the big reveal that Rey is a Palpatine, but it’s the big reveal of Kylo’s mission to kill her and finish the job.
After Endor, Palpatine says that Leia has ruined his plans. We assume this is because Kylo couldn’t kill her. But we’re still assuming wrong.
Finally, on Exegol, in a genuine third act twist, we learn the truth from Palpatine himself, unedited: he never wanted her dead, he wanted her here with him. The audience can now infer that bringing Rey to Exogol was Kylo’s true mission all along, and Kylo had lied to Rey about Palpatine trying to kill her as part of his attempt to manipulate her to his own ends, planning to betray Palpatine from the beginning. Even the times it seemed Kylo was genuinely trying to kill Rey, he was spiting the Emperor rather than serving him. And since Kylo must have actually known Palpatine’s true goal all along, as Ben he is now rushing back to Exogol because he knows Rey is playing into Palpatine’s hands.
Thoughts?
Oh… my… Gosling! Hal, get on this immediately! 😄
We don’t know for 100% sure that Rey is dead dead when Ben heals her. She could just have fallen unconscious and been really weak and on the edge of death or whatever.
You know what? Looking back at the film’s somewhat vague production history, Disney must have really botched this as much as they could. And that doesn’t just regard the mysterious deleted scenes we’ve yet to see.
Someone needs to produce a feature-length documentary surrounding the production troubles, reshoots and re-edits, and the actors’ honest experiences on Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker. That way, we can sleep easy knowing we’ll finally have the true story in our hands and Disney will be held accountable for the final part of the Sequel Trilogy turning out as bad as it did.
Because with all the information we have gathered on the movie so far, I think this is quite a lot to take in. And that usually exhausts me and constitutes as too much info to take in at once, but I am genuinely interested in hearing what really went wrong behind the scenes, and what we can all learn from it. 🤔
But yeah, I am still happy with what Hal is doing for us, the fans. I hope V2 truly lives up to the hype! 😁
Trust me, that event continues to plague me, which is why on the preview of this new intro you will find a pretty good-sized watermark on it. I still find references to the guy that took my preview edits. They are still on YouTube and there isn’t much I can do about them. So I choose to move forward. I have enjoyed getting back into editing lately and I’m not going to let someone from the past take that away.
On that note, here is the new intro section that will be used on both Deathly Hallows Part 1 and the combined Deathly Hallows edit. The new intro includes the Dudley Redemption scene with green screens replaced. To accomplish this, I used Topaz Labs Video Enhance AI to upscale the footage to 4K and to smooth out some of the pixelation from the low res footage. This allowed for better masking of the green screen in some parts as well as allowing me to crop some of the green screen areas out completely.
I know that for some the intro will be way too long and the “flow” of it will have been broken by this addition. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, including whether to like this change or not. If you don’t like it, the current versions do not have this added in. To me, this scene is critical and should have never been cut. It had such an impact on me when I read the book the first time, so for v2.0 this scene will be there.
I also added sound effects when Hermione does the Obliviate spell as her pictures are removed from the frames. Some minor color tweaking was also done.
My friend, you just earned yourself a new subscriber. 😃
What’s the cinch on the bridge deleted scene from 7.2? I reckon it’ll take an experienced VFX editor in the field to get it looking just right to fit in the movie.
So sorry about this, Sherlock. If it’s any consolation, I really liked your take on the line. 🥲
I’ve been working with the Captain Hux audio a bit. I wanted to try playing up the whole “playground bully” thing that Hux and Kylo have going on, so I tried to focus more on “Captain” being an insult, not just a rank. And then all of the other officers look over at him like, “Oh shoot, Hux was demoted?? That’s some hot gossip, right there.” (Note that the word “Captain” would still need to be added into the surround channels, so it doesn’t sound as echo-y right now.)
I like this version better than the last one. Granted, it’s been a while since I watched the last clip, but aside from the obvious point to make (i.e. the missing echo), the word “captain” sounds very seamlessly edited in, replacing Hux’s former position as “General” in light of his incompetence as leader of the First Order and allowing Kylo to formally assume command from here on out. Well done, Sherlock! Top marks all around! 👏
Man, I really need to learn to actually read in future. 😅
I imagine this will require a metric fuckton of new VFX and/or newly shot footage to make this reconstructed narrative work entirely in its favour. 😃
Are you planning on doing something with Chewie’s death fake-out, Acbagel?
Would this serve as a “definitive” finale to Daniel Craig’s tenure as 007?
Any deleted scenes you won’t be using?