CP3S

Wow, didn't realize the final had aired already.

The fact that I, someone who doesn't even really care about Doctor Who, found myself counting down the days between episodes last season, and now have a stack of episodes consisting of half this season that I can't find myself anywhere near bored enough to care to watch anytime in the predictable future, says something. How do you drop that far in the course of a year?

SilverWook said:

The Vengeance crashing into skyscrapers unfortunately took me out of the movie. We don't need disaster porn in Trek.

This part bugged me too. We made a big deal about saving the crew of the Enterprise. We made a big deal about Kirk dying. Then we crash a giant ship into a city that would have easily killed far more in number than the entire crew of the Enterprise. With the number of buildings that monstrosity of a ship plowed through, this disaster must have been like 9/11 many, many times over. Nothing about this horrible disaster is ever mentioned and we transition to a smiley happy ending because, wooo, Kirk is alive again and the crew of the Enterprise survived to go on an exciting mission of exploration. Cue cheery TOS end credit music.

I feel like Spock should be standing trial for irresponsibly destroying a giant spaceship in a way that caused it to crash land on a densely populated city.

The whole scene existed solely for the whole "Whoa! Would you look at all the pretty EXPLOSIONS and DESTRUCTION!!! WAHHH!!! YEAAH!!! WOOOOOO!!!" effect.

DominicCobb said:

if they keep up the quality, this will easily be one of the greatest film trilogies ever.

Wow! No offense, but some of you guys never fail to surprise me with how willing you are to consume and enjoy pure shit. If you enjoyed it, great. But seriously, one of the greatest film trilogies ever?

This is why Orci, Kurtzman, Abrams, and Bay are some of the hottest names as well as the go to guys in Hollywood right now. Mix some dog awful but sometimes quipy dialogue over a tried and true (and tired) plot, add pretty lights and explosions, a few pairs of tits and some hot young faces, and BAM! Hollywood magic! Enthralled audiences! Raking in money by the millions!

Ugh!

Where is the rule that says kids have to be in bed by a certain time? I mean, it is probably a good idea to let your kid sleep when they are tired, and generally, a baby is going to just pass out when it is tired anyway. How does this indicate that those parents don't care for their children very much?

^ Sarcasm?

Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman have been collaborating on shitty scripts together for ages. From the awful Hercules and Xenia television series to many of the big crappy blockbusters that his cinemas in recent years. You have them to thank for the scripts of such wonderful films as The Island, all three Transformer films, both Star Treks, and Cowboy's and Aliens. They are Hollywood's go to guys for fluffy action flicks where the dialogue doesn't really matter in the least. Lindeloff is probably the most talented of the three.

If they really tried, I am sure they could make a decent future Star Wars storyline that isn't about just "some kid" or a "CW pretty boy". Everybody seems fine with the CW pretty boys of the new Star Trek. And introducing a new young cast worked great for Battlestar Galactica, even if they did give some of them the names of characters from the original show. If George is to be believed, his intention for VII - IX was to pass the torch as far back as when The Empire Strikes Back was made.

Sure, Harrison Ford looked okay in some shots as Indy in IJATKOTCS, but action scenes looked ridiculous. I think Ford looks a lot better in Ender's Game, in which he's playing a much more stationary role. I'm glad he is going to be in it, but I think making them the focus would be a mistake. If they stick with three years between each major film as has been the SW tradition, then we're talking another decade of age on them before it is said and done.

skyjedi2005 said:

Or Dark Forces if it was not such a shameless knockoff of doom II/wolfenstein.

Shameless knockoff? Don't be ridiculous! Yeah, it was a first person shooter, and that was pretty much how they looked back then. DF, outside of being a great Star Wars game, was one of the major pioneers of the FPS genre. It was so much more advanced than Doom and Wolfenstein. 

Silly to claim it is a Doom II knockoff, since both Doom II and Dark Forces were in development at the same time, and released just a few months apart from one another. Or, at least that would be a silly claim, if Doom II were anything more than the exact same game as the original Doom only with new levels and a few very minor tweaks. Dark Forces introduced ducking, jumping, and looking up and down to first person shooters for the first time. While Doom II was still relying all on 2D sprites, Dark Forces was implementing real 3D models.

So, while id Software was essentially modding Doom into Doom II by adding a few new monsters, LucasArts was designing a major leap in what is now perhaps the most popular video game genre today.

Pfft! Shameless knockoff, indeed!

thecolorsblend said:

I hope to God that isn't the case. I personally could give a shit about young Jedi, Leia and Han's children or whatever else. Just bring back the core three and make it their story again.

 

Yeah! That'd be awesome!

I'm sure we'd all love to see him

her

and this guy

running around saving the galaxy from evil.

1999 might have been an okay time to start a project like that, Mark and Harrison weren't looking their worst at that time (sorry Carrie, can't say the same for you), but 14 years in the future, time has caught up to them. I know they can work all kinds of magic on them, but I still don't think that is a movie anyone really wants to see. The ship has sailed for our old heroes. Still, it'll be cool to see them play a role in the new film.

It is going to be weird having two decades worth of post-ROTJ Star Wars novels out there, and then to have these new movies totally dismiss and reject them.

Part of me kind of hopes they stick to certain well established things, like Han and Leia's children and their names, even if they greatly veer away from everything else.

On the other hand, I think it would be kind of cool if the SW universe we get introduced to in the new films doesn't muck around with anything established in the EU, and completely ignores every bit of it.

How cool would it be if Han and Leia never got married! Maybe they just had a short lived fling after the events of ROTJ and went their separate ways. I'd kind of love it if it were that far removed from everything EU.

I asked because in the new film Kirk states that he hasn't lost a single crew member since taking command of the Enterprise, in defense of his brash decision making.

Saw the trailer for World War Z for the second time today. I am convinced that it is a film about some phenomena that turns groups of humans into living tidal waves. 

It looks ridiculous. Every scene with "zombies" in it just depict clearly CG people weirdly and unnaturally pouring over edges and falling out of things. It is a shame. An appropriately R rated zombie movie (or maybe TV mini series) that follows the documentary nature of the book could have really been something. This feels like I Am Legend all over again, a fun and somewhat unique story adapted into a throw away big budget picture.

The poit he is trying to make is that he is stuck on a speeding EU, and needs to know where he can get off at.

I'd say somewhere circa 1997 is a safe place. That was an exciting time to be a Star Wars fan. Before the dark times... before the major revisions.

Even the SE's were a lot of fun that year, I loved going to the theater and seeing them on the big screen. The changes were a fun little bonus, movies we had seen over and over and over again, now with some fun little extra bits. Of course, back then we thought they actually were special editions, and not the first step into a disappointing future for the franchise as well as the first draft of the only versions we'd eventually be permitted to see.

Does the Enterprise lose any crew members in the comic or the game?

I've been obsessed with this cover of The Pixies' "Where is My Mind" done by Trampled with Turtles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZvVeQI0heg

The original is one of my all time favorite songs, I'm usually not to fond of cover versions, but this one is just fantastic!

JEDIT: And 2007? That is some pretty solid necroposting right there! Just trying to make you proud, Fink.

VadersGhost said:

The fact that he could have writer's block with a story as expansive as star wars is just scary...

Those talk shows are scripted. He had to say they were having a bit of writer's block to segue into the fan suggestions gag.

With all the above being said, I found it a lot more enjoyable than the first one.

So as not to be a complete Negative Nelly, a few things I really liked about it:

Cumberbatch was pretty fantastic. I'd be lying if I said I didn't find myself rooting for him most of the movie.

Simon Pegg's Scotty. I've always liked Pegg, but felt he didn't really work as Scotty in the first film. In this film, he seemed to try to be less of an impersonation of James Doohan, and managed to make the character his own. Scotty was one character in this movie that really worked well and was likeable and relatable. They actually gave him stuff to do in this film, which gave him an advantage over the rest of the main cast outside of Kirk and Spock, who essentially served as little more than props.

Things I really didn't like at all:

The new Klingon look. Looked way too much like the Romulans from the first film. Not a fan of the less organic looking ridges, and it felt kind of cheap that we get to watch Khan slay a ton of these guys, while only ever seeing one of their faces. Maybe if Klingons make a bigger appearance in the next film, their look will be fleshed out a little more.

Went to see it with my dad today.

Hmmm, I feel like the last three Trek movies, Nemesis, J.J. Trek, and now Into Darkness have all been, at least to some degree, rehashes of The Wrath of Khan. I love The Wrath of Khan, not only is it a great Star Trek movie, but it is just a great sci-fi movie. But come on, how many times do we need to see the same loose story retold?

One of the great things about sci-fi is the ability to explore strange new places, ideas, and concepts through fiction. In sci-fi you have a storytelling environment where you can literally go anywhere and do anything. I can still remember various great and fun imagination inspiring sci-fi concepts introduced to me through each of the Star Trek TV shows, from TOS to Voyager. 

Into Darkness doesn't give us anything new that we haven't seen before. It doesn't even come close to giving us the emotional responses that The Wrath of Khan did. What it does give us is a formulaic story, poorly written dialogue, and next to no character development at all. 

And I swear, for Bones' dialogue, they must have just come up with a computer algorithm that they feed the interacting character's lines into, and in turn it generates an appropriate response using direct DeForest Kelly quotes from the old series. The character is not even a character in this movie, just a bunch of witty quips, with a couple of lines of dialogue relevant to the overall plot.

Hey, it's me. said:

What the f*** is the thread about? Random s***?

No, not random shit, silly! Random pictures and gifs. It also comes with winning! and is not safe for working. 

Hey, it's me. said:

It's a ridiculous point anyway and I WAS being mildly sarcastic C3PS. I mean at that juncture how was we (the audience) supposed to know that what Obi-Wan was wearing was standard Jedi attire? 

I assumed you were being completely sarcastic.

Just one of the many flaws of the prequels. Throughout the OT, we see three characters wearing what we now call Jedi robes, Owen, Obi-Wan, and Anakin's ghost. And maybe some other characters on Mos Eisley? When I was younger, I always got the impression robes are just what people wear in the SW universe, especially middle aged to older men, it seems robes popped up a lot on regular characters in the old SW comic books as well.

Like Doubleofive said, it seemed it became the Jedi outfit in the prequels simply because it was what old Obi-Wan, the only Jedi we knew wore, disregarding the fact that many other people on the planet he was hiding on seemed to dress the same way.

The fact that Sebastian Shaw's Anakin is wearing similar clothes could indicate that they had already decided that this was the standard Jedi attire as early as the time ROTJ was made, or, as makes more sense with Owen wearing it, that it was just standard galactic attire.

Hey, it's me. said:

doubleofive said:

I still can't get over the fact that the Jedi uniforms in the prequels are what Obi-wan wears in A New Hope because its what Obi-wan wears, but no one noticed that everyone on Tattooine wears the same clothes and it wouldn't make sense for a Jedi in hiding to dress like a Jedi.

I don't know but seeing as though he was in hiding, I don't think mingling with the locals was on his agenda. Maybe when he ventured into Mos Eisley to get supplies he didnt wear his robe. Shrug.

Right, like that time he ventured into Mos Eisley to charter a ship to take him to Alderaan, and changed out of his Jedi robes first in order to be less conspicuous prior to engaging in intergalactic travel.

thecolorsblend said:

Nobody puts together an action sequence the way Lucas does. It's his niche. Let him handle that stuff.

Wait, that is sarcasm, right?

Yuck!

Those are awesome!

I like how the Greedo figures' eyes are in different positions on each one and make it look like he is spinning his eyes.

The R4-D5 and R2-D2 ones are unsettling lewd, they give me the unpleasant feeling that a Droid is wagging its crotch in my face. :(

Congratulations, Ender! That does sound like quite an honor.

^That is more of my experience with rugby players, and footballers in general.

American football players tend to go for bulk. Yes, they are massive guys, but I find the lean muscular agility of your typical European player to be far more intimidating than brutish tree trunk sized arms.

I once found myself stuck in the back of a tiny airplane with the Liverpool football team. It was kind of awesome. They were loud and crass, and continually tortured the rather attractive flight attendant with subtle sexual harassments, which she genuinely seemed to really be enjoying. These guys kept ordering gin and tonic after gin and tonic. I decided I needed to see what all the fuss was about. The G&T has been my drink ever since.