I am waiting for "nerdy" to go out of style so I can start enjoying it again. I am pretty sure it is on the way out. I see a lot less girls wearing "I Love Nerds" and Super Mario Brother's T-Shirts these days.
I like how he has his Spock haircut in that video. Those girls really seem to be digging that Vulcan look. Just goes to show how very important it is to stay off drugs, at first it is all fun and games, getting high with some friends every now and then, next thing you know you find yourself starring in a trippy music video about Hobbits with a round eared Vulcan. The worst part of all that has to be being immortalized in this video. Usually this sort of stuff gets quickly forgotten, but due to it containing nerdy subject matter added with the sentimentallity of the average nerd, it is a given that this video will be one part of human history that remains unforgotten long after our extinction.
At this very monent there are probably half a dozen nerds attempting to transmit this video into space via complicated contraptions they built in their basements. Sooner or later some alien is going to see this thing, and cross earth off of their "places to visit" list.
Vbangle, I understand autism is something very difficult to live with, my heart goes out to you
skyjedi2005 said:To me the end of Trek VI with the Captains log was a perfect way to end the classic trek series. Forget generations. Just like Indiana Jones riding off into the sunset in Last Crusade was the perfect ending.
Couldn't agree more. Both Star Trek VI and Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade had a great sense of closure to them. I'd also add that I think Star Trek Nemesis had a very good sense of closure too it. Even though I thought Nemsis was very flawed, I really liked the ending.
skyjedi2005 said:Unless someone in my family begs me to go see this with them. I am not going to pollute my vision of star trek with this crap.
I can wait for the dvd and a free rental at my public library. Just another glitzy big budget summer sci fi actioner but star trek is supposed to at least when it was at its best be more than that.
Stay true to yourself, don't go see it. All action, no plot to speak of, you're not missing anything really. Wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, but it is by no means a good movie. Just a generic sci-fi flick running under an ST mod. Wait for it to come out on DVD and check it out from your library. You'll be glad you waited.
I sometimes wonder if i would appreciate these modern dumb entertainments were I a teenager instead of being nearly 31 years of age.
To me its really sad that another one of my childhood favorites has been destroyed. But nothing lasts forever. I mean Star Wars was ruined. Transformers was ruined. Indiana Jones was ruined. Star Trek ruined. James Bond ruined. The only franchise left unruined is Batman.
If I were thirteen, I am sure I would think it was about the best Star Trek movie ever made.
I think "destroyed" is kind of a strong word (but maybe not). This film is most certainly, beyond a doubt, the final nail in the coffin of the Star Trek that was. It is gone, the end. This is Star Trek now. "Destroyed" infers the idea that it came to a violent end, which it didn't really. It died peacefully enough, it was getting old and senile, its memory was failing, it suffered from the ailments of age, but it still had people who loved it when it passed.
I don't see this new movie as a conquering usurper, taking its position by force. But rather an honest successor who is hardly worthy of the mantel it is taking up. This is hardly uncommon. The footsteps of greatness are rarely followed by their equals.
Trek, when it was at its prime, was one of a kind. It will never be replaced, only poorly substituted.
I wanted to go to it opening night so badly. But I was puking my guts out. (Confused Matthew and I were sick at the same time, how cool is that!) I remember being disheartened when I woke up the next morning, Announced how much better I was feeling and that I would be good to go to the movies with my friends later that day, and heard my mom say, "Are you really sure you want to go see it? All the reviews coming in for it are absolutely awful! Maybe you should save your money and wait to see it when it goes to the dollar theater."
"Mom, you clearly don't know me that well! There is a new Star Wars movie out there, and I absolutely must see it! Those critic obviously don't know what they are talking about!"
I did go see it later that day with my friends.
Exactly what ChainsawAsh said. Now doubt there will be several releasings and rereleasings of all the SW movies on blue ray before all is said an done. But I am fully expecting the blue-ray releases to be exactly the same as the 04's. It is not like they have to remaster them in HD, they are already in HD as seen in the HD TV broadcasts. Sad, but no doubt true.
Also, I still feel very strongly that the OUT as a bonus ends with DVD. Too much work would be involved in remastering them in HD, and it would be giving us exactly what we want. Two things that seem to be taboo with LFL, working hard to achieve high quality products, and giving the fan exactly what they want.
Hunter6 said:So I had two free movie passes and used them on this film.
Free movie passes or not, you should have stuck to you guns and not gone to see the thing, especially since there was nbody here more against it than you. I certainly thought you would have managed to hold off longer than the second day. I bet sky will manage to hold off longer. It is starting to sound like all the ones who were against it were just as excited and anxious to see it as everybody else.
DarkFather said:Hell, it even has the Leonard Nimoy stamp of approval.
Oh my gosh! The Leonard Nimoy stamp of approval! That is most impressive!
From the exact same Leonard Nimoy who brought us the album Mr. Spock's Music From Outer Space, the fine single The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins, and the masterpiece photography book The Full Body Project (featuring photographs of fat women in the buff, taken by good ol' Leonard himself).
Mr. Nimoy has brought us some fine products in his time, glad to see he is still at it.
C3PX said:generalfrevious said:Transformers to me represents the zeitgeist of our era, despite being hardly a good film.
Really? I don't know. I have never seen it, nor have I any interest in seeing it. And all my friends who have seen it have basically told me to give it a skip. To me it looks nothing more than your typical summer blockbuster, and carries no more or no less hype than typical. I think zeitgeist may be a little exteme of a word to use. The summer blockbuster has been around forever, and will continue to be.
Generalfrevious, I have to retract my comments. After going to see ST today and sitting through the trailers. The orgasmic squeals of delight and the "OMG! I can't wait!"s from the audience as the trailers for Transformers 2, G.I. Joe, and Terminator Salvation played on the screen I was suddenly reminded of your post. Zeitgesit is absolutely the perfect word to describe these movies after all. I have never heard people getting so excited during the trailers in front of a movie before, not since the days of the Phantom Menace anyway.
No DF! You can go suck a turd! ;)
Just saw it. I have to say, it was a hell of a lot better than I expected it to be. That said, there were a lot of things in it that were absolutely unbearable that kept pulling me out of the movie.
It took me a while to get used to Spocklar, but once I did he worked fine for me. His relationship with Uhura just felt pushed though.
I never got used to Pine as Kirk, and actually really disliked the character throughout. Scotty was awful, but fortunately played a small enough part in the movie, but all the bits he was in were pretty cringe worthy (midget, water pipes).
The action scenes tended to drone on and get boring. Especially the fight dangling from Nero's ship, and the stupid scene where Kirk gets chased by CG beasts in an obvious homage to TPM.
Another thing that really bugged me was Chekov's accent, it was one of the over the top things from the original series we really didn't need carried over. It felt extremely out of place in this modern film, while an old sixties sci-fi show can be forgiven for it. I have a few Russian friends with fairly poor English, and they don't sound half that bad. Chekov's accent belongs in a parody poking fun at Russians, not in this film.
Ultimately, I felt the time travel thing worked well enough. Nero was a pretty lame villain, and was way under used. The fact that his entire backstory fit into a couple of sentences says a lot. Also not sure why they changed the look of the Romulans. I always kind of liked the way they looked before.
Hunter6 said:I thinking like with other JJ Abrams' work that as time goes maybe a week or a month that more and more people will turn on this film. It was like that with MI: III and Cloverfield.
Yeah, give it six months, and it will be hip to hate this thing. It just takes a while for the masses to realize that most of these movies manufactured for mass consumption absolutely suck. They seem to like them at first taste, then after time they admit that it wasn't that great. Then a year later or so if the title of the movie is brought up somehow they'll says, "Ah, that old movie. That has got to have been one of the worst movies I have ever seen!" At least that has been the trend.
skyjedi2005 said:The thing is how often do you see a studio delibretely going about alienating its existing fanbase.
By saying this is not your father's star trek. They are pretty much flipping the bird at original series fans, the ones who they promised a return to classic treks roots. And they want to have it both ways anyway to be a reboot and not. To fuck with the fans and then try and placate them by putting Leonard Nimoy into the movie.
Exactly. No matter how good this movie is as your generic explosion filled, orgasm of the senses, sci-fi flick, it made the mistake of alienating the people who really care about the series, and basically told them, f you, we are going for the mass appeal on this one gents.
What is really dumb are all the people out there who feel that real ST fans don't have the right to feel a bit pissed. This exact same movie could have been made without flipping the bird at the fans. They might have still felt that it sucked, but they wouldn't have felt like they had J.J. Abram's piss spraying them in the face, with all these advertisements basically saying, "Hey fans! Guess what? (drops pants) SUCK ON THAT!!! Nah nah nah nah nah naaaah!"
I am not a big Trekkie, but I can sympathize with them. In know SW is a bad example, because it too was basicially destroyed for the sake of bringing in more cash too. But imagine if the adds for the prequel had went on, almost tauntingly, "This isn't the Star Wars you grew up with!" "Forget all you know about Star Wars" "If you are a Star Wars fan, don't go to see this because all the cool kids will be there and they don't want to have to stare at your ugly nerdy face!" etc.
ABSOLUTELY the other way around! I am a huge supporter of the grain.
He said he'd never understand, and I was trying to console him for his lack of understanding. Maybe I should edit it to make it more clear... it does kind of sound like I am agreeing with him. (I fixed it)
AxiaEuxine said:I will never understand why people WANT film grain, why not have the clearest picture possible?
It is okay Axia, some people will always have a hard time understanding some things. The rest of us will just have to forgive those who don't understand this particular issue, and beg them not to get jobs in the film industry.
I am going to have to wait until I see it. But so far all this is scaring me. Exact same thing happened with Revenge of the Sith and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
All my friends were shouting about how fantastic ROTS was, then I went and saw it and realized it sucked. Then it seemed like after I saw it, everyone started to admit how bad it was. I kept hearing that Indy IV was pretty good, then when I eventually saw it, I nearly puked multiple times. Now I can't find a person on the face of the earth who still admits to liking it.
My dad talked me into going to see it with him tomorrow (dah, same reason I ended up seeing ROTS against my better judgement), so looks like tomorrow evening I will be able to give a fair opinion.
Z6PO said:The 00'dude boldly go nowhere, has nothing to say, it's just the same old clichés of your average summer movie...
Abrams should have had Sulu and Chekov have butt sex, then it would be making a bold statement somewhat on par with having a black woman on the bridge.
sean wookie said:Fan edits have always been shit anyways.
I couldn't possibly agree with you more.
Ripplin said:Anchorhead said:This board is also where I learned about the book The Secret History Of Star Wars - a very interesting read.
I know I haven't read that one. Thanks for the recommendation. Is it still in print?
It was actually written by one of the members here, and only went into publication late last year. You wont find it in brick and mortar stores, but amazon and Barnes&Noble.com sell it.
The US incarnation of Amazon currently has it for $26.37, which I promise you, it will be worth every penny of. (If you live across the pond, Amazon.co.uk has it for 24 quid! Ouch!)
http://www.amazon.com/Secret-History-Star-Wars/dp/0978465237/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1241641745&sr=8-1
Pick it up along side J.W. Rinzler's The Making of Star Wars: The Definitive Story Behind the Original Film and you have yourself a bundle of Lucas loving action that will keep you awake well into the night... only slightly less kinky sounding.
AxiaEuxine said:You havent seen empire in 12 years?!?! Im not trying to be rude here, honest but why exactly are you on these boards then?
oh and Ice Cream maker guy...
LOL, it is funny hearing the person who seems to hold the PT superior to the OT but yet posts at OT.com questioning the 1977 only guy about his validity of being here. You are the one who thinks the SE is better than the OT, yet you are at a site that exists for the preservation of the originals. To adapt a popular analogy, this is like the pot calling the ceramic white tea pot black.
Anchorheads 1977 SW is part of the OT. It makes perfect sense the guy would want support such a cause, even though he only wants 1/3rd of what the rest of us are after.
Wow, I never noticed that was an ice cream maker before! I always thought it was a helmet. That is funny. More reasons for me to love that film. I have that guy's SWCCG card too.
skyjedi2005 said:Originally it was Kenobi's pride and hubris for taking on Anakin as a student against the jedi orders wishes, we don't know enough but maybe he broke the rules and was not even supposed to train anyone because he was just a knight and not a master. Now instead of Yoda being the wise one and perfect jedi he is as much a liar as kenobi and a douchebag for allowing Dooku his student to rise to becoming a sith lord.
Good point.
AxiaEuxine said:Pulp Fiction was one of the most overrated movies ever, I just dont understand what everyone saw in that film.
I agree it was probably overrated. I have heard some people proclaim it to be the greatest film of all time. But it all honesty, it was a pretty hilarious movie. In a world where your typical teen sex comedy (American Pie, Superbad, etc.) are considered the epitomy us humor, or movies like (Tropic Thunder, Observe and Report) are considered excellent comedies, it is nice to look back at a classic like Pulp Fiction and find something that does more than just pretend to be funny, but really is. Pulp Fiction even has the added plus of possibly getting you to think a little bit in process, if you chose to take the time to consider the characters. Interestingly, this is coming from a guy who doesn't care one bit for any of Tarantino's other work. It is also significant to note, that when that film came out, there was nothing out there quite like it. It was something new and fresh amongst hoards of the same-ol'-thing. Since you see films like AOTC and ROTS as great films, I am sure you can forgive others for thinking Pulp Fiction is something special.
No. I wish the PT had a scene with Mace Windu where he was for some reason seperated from his lightsaber and had someone give it back to him,
Mace: "Now I want you to go over there and find my lightsaber."
Person getting his saber for him: "Which one is it?"
Mace: "It's the one that says Bad Motherfucker on it."
Person getting his saber for him pulls out a saber with "Bad Motherfucker" inscribed on the handle in fancy lettering.
Mace: (excitedly) That's my Bad Motherfucker!
Mace ignites it and starts slashing down CG robots/bugs/aliens/Clones/Sith Lords with his brilliant purple blade.
No. Because Mace, being played by Samuel L. Jackson is one bad motherf**ker, and can use a certain fighting style that allows him to tap into the Darkside, but not be turned by it. Did I mention Samuel L. Jackson is one bad motherf**ker? Oh yeah, and he gets a purple lightsaber! Ah, the prequels are such a lovely mess, you've got to love them.
If I had an interview with George, I'd avoid Star Wars all together, and try to see what I could get out of him regarding his artsy films and why he has never gotten around to them.
D'oh! You're one hell of a friend Nanner!
I hate birthdays. I am so bad at remembering them. You forget one and suddenly your friend is hurt. It doesn't mean I don't care about them just because I forget their birthdays. I forget all my friends birthdays the same. I used to have a calander with all their bdays written on it, every year when I'd get a new calander I'd go through the old one and mark all the dates down. Due to certain events, I lost my calander and most of my friends birthdays as a result. I have been too ashamed to go to all of them and say, "Hey, I know we have been friends for over twenty years now, so, uh, when is your birthday again?" It has been a few years, and there are still a few of my buddies that I still don't have birthdays for.
