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#374117
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Petition LucasArts against the release of the Force Unleashed Sith Edition!
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Hmm, I think you missed the point of the discussion EyeShotFirst.

The problem isn't that they dislike the game and wish it wasn't being rereleased, the problem is that they already bought and own the game and the rerelease has exclusive extra levels on it that can only be obtained via this new edition, which means they don't get to play it unless they shed another $40 dollars on top of what they already paid for the original and its DLC. The decent thing for LucasArts to have done would have been to release the extra level as DLC and allow those who already gave them their money for the game to pay a little extra for the new DLC (which is the norm) rather than making them repurchase just for the one level.

So just not playing it wouldn't help, since playing it is exactly what they want to do. This would be more like a PT fan really wanting to buy ROTS on DVD, but LFL only offering it in an exclusive boxed set containing TPM and AOTC as well, meaning to own ROTS you'd have to buy the first two all over again.

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#374104
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Petition LucasArts against the release of the Force Unleashed Sith Edition!
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The PlayStation 2 version is also very quite different. Still much the same gameplay, but different level layouts. I have played both the 360 and the PS2 versions, and I actually enjoyed the PS2 version quite a lot more. Like the Wii, the PS2 doesn't get any extras either. I think this is fair, in reality, they are very different games, and even made by different teams if I am not mistaken (the PS2 version was not made by the same people who made the 360 and PS3 versions, I think this was the same case with the Wii), so it stands to reason that the Wii doesn't get the extras. The Wii isn't really the console to get if you are interested in playing mainstream games anyway, if you buy a Wii, it is for the Wiiness.

 

While I am all for games being rereleased to include their expansions packs (things like the Oblivion GOTY edition and the upcoming Fallout 3 GOTY edition and other rereleased are really a fantastic value, the only people who could really complain about stuff like that are the ones who bought the DLC early and felt ripped off, but that is just the way it works with everything, consoles, games, movies, BD players, computers, Mp3 players, etc.). Since the Ultimate Sith edition of TFU (love that abbreviatation!) only has a SRP of $39.99, ten dollars more than the original TFU's SRP, and it contains $20 dollars worth of DLC + the extra level that is exclusive to the USE, which would have likely been another $10, if it were downloadable, making it closer to $30 worth of extras with this edition.

I guess the major complaint is that the final level wont be offered separate from the USE, forcing people to buy the whole thing, rather than simply blow $10/800 MS points on the thing. THAT is pretty rotten, essentially telling customers who have payed full price for the game and previous DLC that they need to buy it all over again, granted at a reduced price, if they want this one extra level. Meanwhile, the casual consumer who has yet to spend a penny on the thing sees the USE for forty bucks and gets the whole package at a great deal. It does feel like punishment for loyalty. But seriously? Did you really expect anything less from something with the name "Star Wars" stamped on it?

 

neebis said:

I'm sick of PC gamers getting the shaft, waiting an extra year for a release and getting, sloppy second-hand ports with clumsy console interfaces.

 

I have always had the PC along side my consoles. Back in the days of Nintendo and SEGA, PC definitely sported more impressive games. But I think we have reached the point where consoles have become so powerful, that it is hard for the PC to keep up. Obviously you can get a computer that is far more powerful than the PS3 or the 360, but to get it to play the same games as those consoles, it is going to need to be something above your $400 dollar range base model PC. Compare that with a $200 dollar 360 or a $400 dollar PS3. Being a 360 owner, I know that any game scheduled to be released for the 360 is going to work for my console. Back when I mostly played games on the PC, I was frequently disappointed when I'd realize a game wasn't going to work on my system, other times the game would work on my system, but only after turning down all the settings to meet the minimum requirements, resulting in the game looking like absolute crap. Also I had to worry about hard drive space, had to take the time to install the game, and uninstall the game when I wasn't going to need it for a while, install it again if sometime down the road I get the itch to revisit it a bit.

Meanwhile, in console land, take the game out of the box, pop it in the console, and a few seconds later your playing it. Consoles are just that much easier, you can't really blame the average person whose 2 or 3 year old computer is more than adequate for work/school/communication for wanting to drop a few hundred on a console that will be good for several years of hassle free gaming rather than upgrading to a shiny new PC just to play the latest and greatest games. And consequently, you can't blame game companies for diverting their focus to the larger group of customers.

 

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#374084
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Video Games - a general discussion thread
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 I noticed Target is clearancing out The Force Unleashed for the 360 for $14.98. Obviously they are doing this because the upcoming "Ultimate Sith Edition" ("Game of the Year" edition wannabe for a game that fall way short of being game of the year for anyone). Just thought I'd share my findings. That is a good price, can't even buy it that cheap used (brand new retail price is $29.99 I think, and Gamestop has it used for $26).

Somewhat related... when did LucasArts start making the spines of their games bright yellow? It looks awful, and doesn't fit with Star Wars at all. I wonder what possessed them to start doing this?

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#374080
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Star Wars Infinities and What it could mean to the Prequels
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Sounds great!

Though the idea of "infinities" was to follow strange and interesting deviations from the canonical plot (i.e. Vader becomes a good guy after ROTJ, recolors his armor white, helps the rebels, and spends quality time with his two loving children). This kind of thing has long been a tradition with comic books (such as Marvel's "What If" series), and I feel it is certainly a welcome and amusing part of the mass of SW EU out there. But I am not so sure a serious remake of the PT would really fit in with the spirit of the idea behind "infinities". Would be kind of like Marvel calling the fairly recent Incredible Hulk remake, "The Incredible Hulk: What If... The Incredible Hulk Film Had Actually Been Watchable?"

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#373667
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Video Games - a general discussion thread
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Wow, Gaff, not sure what to say... wouldn't have taken you for the die hard Pokemon trainer.

Actually, as a huge supporter of the old pre-color GameBoy, which I still think is one of the most amazing things ever made, I have to admit that Pokemon is most certainly on my "must have" GB games list. Don't get me wrong, I have zero fondness, nostalgic or otherwise, for the annoyingly cutesy Pokemon that has been marketed to kids over the last ten years. But back in the early days, before the marketing hype hit the states, back when it was simply the red and blue cartridges, it was one of those games that gave you the most bang for your buck as far as GB carts are concerned. It was a very good simple RPG that you could pick up and put down in a second, making it an ideal GB game. Even if you literally only had five minutes to play, you could progress in that period of time, yet the overall game experience was very long lived. Hands down, the best bit was fighting with other players via the link cable. What other RPGs let you do that? The game had a bunch of really lame looking monsters in it (which is the sort of thing we have all come to expect from Japan, eh?), but it also had some that were cool enough. But, unfortunately the whole over marketing to the ten and under crowd made it very hard for anyone else to take it seriously (okay, not very hard, impossible).

Still, at the end of the day, the original GameBoy game is very much worth the $5 or so a used copy will cost you these days. It, along with Link's Awakening, Tetris, Metroid II, Mario Land 2, and the GameBoy Camera (and probably a few others in there I should be including), should be in every monochrome GameBoy enthusiasts collection.

 

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#373464
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Worst Edit Ideas
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Wow, reading over this, I am realizing it could be a lot of fun to do an edit like this. Be a lot of fun to get a group of friends together and watched a totally screwed over version of Star Wars. It would work great as an abridged version of the film, editing the whole thing down to about 45 minutes or so, wouldn't be hard to do.

The Indiana Jones theme when Han shoots Vader's Tie and saves the day would be hilarious. The Steve Carrel thing would be great as well (I hate that joke so much, and all these retards that feel the need to constantly quote it, even when it is hardly applicable i.e. "Would you like salad dressing?" "That's what she said! HAHAHAHHAHA" really gets on my nerves. But using it during the Death Star battle would be pretty funny for an edit like this).

And if there were a few guys with some decent voice talent and recording equipment willing to do this, the cockney Artoo and Fonzesque Chewie could potentially, with some well written dialogue, be pretty funny.

 

On a related idea, I have always wanted to edit this scene into The Empire Strikes Back, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5blbv4WFriM&feature=related

That thing cracks me up everytime.

EDIT: Just discovered this one, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gQozw40Mso&feature=related it goes on for a little too long, but shorten it to only two times and add an audio clip of JEJ laughing and it would be another great addition to a worst edit version of Empire Strikes Back.

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#373330
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You know that you're a Star Wars fan when...
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Ziz said:

...you buy colored condoms and make the "zzzzzhhh" lightsaber sound as you approach your girlfriend

 

Wow, sounds like a brilliant way to get a girl to change her mind about sleeping with you at the very last second.

"Zzzzhhhh"

"Uh, what are you doing???"

"Its a lightsaber! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzhhhhhhhhh."

"Oh, uh... cool. You know what? I just remembered I... uh... I need to wash my hair! And I think I forgot to let my dog out. Not to mention I have to work early tomorrow. So, yeah, I better get going... do you see my bra anywhere?"

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#373329
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HALO movie
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God of War really shouldn't be a movie. It is a button masher of a game, littered with some fun little puzzles and great visuals, but the story is nothing new. All it does is take Greek mythology out of its original context and rearrange it and make as much of it as possible fit into their story, which is cool for a game, but I just don't see it as a movie.

As for a Bioshock movie and the killing of children, you are given that option in the game, to save or harvest the little sisters. But the game awards you very heavily for saving them rather than harvesting (bonus tonics and plasmids), so clearly they want to encourage you to save instead of harvest. I am pretty sure if they did made it into a movie (which I think would most certainly end in disaster) they wouldn't have their hero doing any harvesting. But George Lucas showed the world that the mass murdering of children, even by the films main protagonist, is perfectly acceptable, even for a children's movie.  

 

 

 

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#373322
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HALO movie
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I had never seen that Neil Blomkamp demo before. Interesting. I like how he tried to make it a war movie with a sci-fi background, rather than a sci-fi movie with war as part of the plot. Something to make it a little unique. I think a Halo film would definitely benefit from that kind of grittiness. Spielberg has done some good work on war films in the past, if he pushes it along those lines, it might come out alright.

There is a Halo animated series coming out next year (I think), perhaps that will generate more interest in the franchise beyond gamers and show how viable it is, or alternatively, prove a film version is a bad idea. 

It feels like too many of these kinds of films are merely quick sort lived cash-ins. Such as Speed Racer or Dangonball's recent adaptions. These franchise have huge built in audiences who will run to see it in the cinema, and likely go home feeling disappointed, but their money is already spent, and the film has already turned a profit.

Presently, games have become very cinematic, but their stories only reach a relatively small audience. It wouldn't be hard to translate some of these stories nearly verbatim to the big screen, but for some reason no one ever feels like doing so, and instead feel the need to make major changes. I'd actually rather these video games stay confined to their own little worlds for gamers to enjoy. Seems like everytime something like that break out into a wider audience, a lot of what made it special is lost. At the same time, I am so fond of the stories found in games like Bioshock and Half-Life 1 and 2 that I wish I could recommend them to friends and family like a book or a movie.

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#373312
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HALO movie
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From IGN a couple of days ago: http://movies.ign.com/articles/101/1012622p1.html

Rather than post quotes from it, I will summarize that Steven Spielberg is now attached to the infamous project, that most people have excepted will never happen, as producer. There is a script that Spielberg really likes which adapts the novel "HALO: The Fall of Reach". Which IMHO bodes well for this getting made, whether that is a good thing or not is yet to be seen.

I like HALO. I am not a super fan. In fact, I just beat the first game for the first time last year. It is a good shooter, but the story line, which is often taken by people as being pretty lame and generic, is actually kind of cool and refreshing to me. It really reminds me a lot of old science fiction stories I'd read as a kid. It is the future, an Empire of aliens resembling very much the Persians threaten man kind, etc. It is simple, any fifth grader could have thought it up with just as much depth. But for some reason it just takes me back to the days of reading comic books past bed time with a flash light.

That said, I have very little faith in Hollywood to do anything but hurt the franchise. Though if done right, the story from the novel "The Fall of Reach" could make a pretty cool sci-fi flick.

Anybody else have any thoughts on this?

 

 

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#373310
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Super Star Wars games and "Who shot first?" poll on Wii
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And how about Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back for the NES? Without save points or any kind of a code system, those games were way too long. I remember playing through the Hoth levels of ESB countless times, but I rarely made it beyond that before I got tired of playing. 

I spent so many hours in both of those games on the NES, and I am not sure if I ever beat either one. I ought to grab the roms from somewhere, load them on my DS, and tackle them with save states. I actually have a much closer connection with NES Star Wars games than the Super Star Wars games, though how well done the Super trilogy was cannot be ignored. The soundtrack alone made them worth playing.

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#373191
Topic
Super Star Wars games and "Who shot first?" poll on Wii
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xhonzi said:

I started playing one on a emulator a while back and was surprised and put off at how hard they were.

They are very freakin' hard! Takes a whole lot of trial and error to progress in them, but they really are a lot of fun, me and my buddies spent countless hours on those games. I only owned Empire Strikes Back, but unfortunately I sold it at some point.

 

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#372768
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I cannot disobey my master
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Ithilgore said:

Actually that one is subverted in the game, quite refreshingly.

... Vader attacks him instead, and dumps him in space. Turns out the whole thing was a plan by both Vader and the Emperor to draw out the rebel leaders and get rid of them, using the main character as perfect bait.

....

Or at least that's the first two acts of the story, I don't know what happens in the third (pretty sure you come back to rescue the rebels and the like)

 

Quite refreshingly, hehehe. I suppose a lot of people don't really stop to think about how dumb that whole thing is. Vader finds this little wunderkind who, as a small child already shows phenomenal abilities in the force. Vader takes it upon himself to raise this small child into adulthood, teaching him to use the dark side of the force from a very young age, and using him as an agent for completing delicate tasks. Sounds like a pretty valuable asset. Finding a powerful little child and training and rasing him into adulthood doesn't sound like the easiest thing in the world to do, but I am sure it is an effort well spent considering all the great things you could use him for, like... like... like betraying him so he becomes a good guy, joins the Rebel Alliance and ultimately leads you to them and solves all your problems.

Seriously Darth, since the late nineties you have been portrayed as having some of the worst logic in film/video game history. "Oh no, my wife is going to die, so I am going to join an evil Sith Lord who I know has been lying to me for all these years and pledge my undying loyalty to him. Once I have joined him, I will try to get my wife to join me, but if she doesn't I'll just choke her to death. It'll make for a very amusing tradgedy at any rate."


"Oh no, there seems to be a group of rebels rebelling against my masters empire. I know! Rather using our vast and virtually unlimited military might to snuff them out where ever they rise, I can fix this by taking that little kid I found the other day, taking ten to fifteen years training him to be the best Sith warrior possible, then I'll betray him! And just hope luck will have it that there will still be good in him even though I have trained him to be an evil bastard since early childhood, and he will want to join the rebels. With a little more luck, they'll actually trust him and welcome him, and maybe even... follow him into a trap! Mhaa ha ha ha HA!! My plan is absolutely perfect! It'll make for nifty hack and slash buttom masher of an action game at any rate." 

 

But yeah, what got us on this topic is that in the last level of the game you are given the choice of killing Vader of letting him live, if you let him live you get the good (and canonical ending). If you kill the sorry sap, you get to kill your friends too and become the Emperor's new right hand man, complete with a nifty Vaderesque costume!

 

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#372765
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G.I. Joe: Worst Movie Ever Made? OR... No, Really, It's the Worst Movie Ever Made
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I'll be looking forward to seeing your review video Gaff.

I feel really sorry for you having had to see this. Just the trailer alone offended my senses to such a degree I shudder a little inside every time I hear the words, G.I. Joe. Which is sad, because when I was a kid I always thought they were some of the greatest toys every made. I mean, they are fully poseable! They have joints at the shoulders and hips as well as the elbows and knees! Brilliance in the form of a toy. Another fine name sullied by Hollywood's over active rectum.

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#372648
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Idea & Info: 'Watchmen - The Graphic Novel Cut'...
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As mentioned in the previous two posts, they really screwed up Veidt's character. He almost feels like a stereotypical villian in the movie, when the intention of the graphic novel was that he was the least likely person in the world to be a villian. This and the squid are the two things that really hurt the film in my eyes that I don't see fixable via fanedit. If someone can figure out a way to make Veidt more ambiguous, I will be very proud of them. But honestly, it is going to take more than a change in music to do that.

Under the Hood was an interesting little bit of supplemental material, but I really don't see it belonging in the film. It would really screw with the pacing and make an already very long film even longer. Interesting idea though.

 

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#372646
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Movies That need to be stopped Before being Made
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EyeShotFirst said:

I hope hollywood will stop making movies starring Seth Rogan.

 

Thank you! I could not imagine a less humorous person, and yet, he is one of the biggest names in comedy films today. He makes Jim Carrey (I don't care what you say, the guy is not funny) seem funny. He makes Adam Sandler look like absolute comedic genius. Sad he is the finest the current market has to offer. Oh yeah, and then there is Ben Stiller... *shudders*

The world of comedy films is truely in dark times.

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#372592
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"No, seriously... which one's your favorite?"
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Since listing one of the movies would be an obvious answer, I am just going to go with EU stuff, even though I feel none of it reaches the level of the OT.

I am not going to lie to you all, as much flak as it recieves, I really liked Shadows of the Empire. Many fans seem to practically loath it, but I absolutely loved the very idea of it when it first came out. Many see Dash as an obvious Han Solo replacement, and sure, he seems to be that, but we already know the galaxy is filled with this scoundra,l type, so I am not sure why it is so hard to believe. His personality is lot different than Hans, he is very much his own character.

Xizor really isn't as lousy of a villan as most people think him to be. I think it was an interesting idea to introduce organized crime into the picture. I know this was already done with Jabba, but quite honestly, do any of us take Jabba seriously as the mafia type? I mean, he is pretty retarded. He would have never caught Han had Vader not put a bounty on his head, and had Boba Fett not decided to double dip and collect two bounties on the same prey. Xisor definitely seems more of the type who'd have one of his thugs leave a Tauntaun head under your bed sheets in the middle of the night. To me it was cool to see a more hard edged side to this aspect of the SW universe that made us realize that Jabba was pretty small time.

Admittedly, it is pretty hard to swallow Palpatine trusting Xizor so much, at the end of the book it kind of explains that Palpatine was using Xizor to test Vader, but it almost comes off as Palpatine trying to save face and keep from looking like a fool, "What? Xizor was trying to use me?! Nah, pft! Ha ha! No, no. You see, I knew what a jerk he was all along! In fact, I was trying to use him. Suka! Hahaha. Well anyway, thanks for blowing him up. Congradulations. You passed my test. Good work Vader, high five!" But still, I don't let this one thing ruin the whole experience for me. Another major complaint for some reason is that Leia got her bounty hunter disguise and thermal detonator from Xizor. For some reason this doesn't bother me either. Sure, we didn't need this explained to us, but I don't think it really hurt anything to include this.

Shadows of the Empire came at what I still feel was one of the most exciting time for SW fans. Star Wars had died out and was almost becoming obsure, then in the mid ninties it all broke out again and we had a bit of a SW revival. New books, new comic, new models, new toys, new games. For a young teenage nerd like me, it was pretty cool to be able to buy stuff with the name "Star Wars" on it in places other than the second hand stores and garage sales. Shadows came at the hight of all this, as an over blown scheme to grab as much of our money as possible. It was simultaniously a book, a game, a comic book series, a sound track, and a toy line. It was like a movie without a movie. But in my opinion, it captured the feel of the OT in a way the prequels never even came close to doing.

Anyway, for anyone interested in experiencing Shadows of the Empire for the first time, or even just revisiting it, I highly recommend the abridged audio book. It is very accessable, is well read, and is fully scored, and can be picked up very cheap online on audio cassette or CD. Being abridged is actually a plus, as the book is quite a bit longer than it needed to be. I can't think of one part from the full book I wish the audio book included, it really has all the most important stuff. Next to the audio book, the junior novelization is also a good quick was to experience the story, without digging into the full novel.

 

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#372561
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TV question, please help
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HotRod said:
Moth3r said:

(Note to self: I must not attempt humour on these forums. It doesn't work.)

 

It's the British sense of humour man, they just don't get it.

 

No, I get British humor quite well (for an American anyway). I knew he was making a joke about the volume thing, but for some, appearently very ignorant and humorless reason, I thought that perhaps he really did get a cheap TV. In the states, deals like that are not unheard of, with the right connections.