C3PX

Yeah, that was funny.

YAY!!!

bkev said:

Warb, Biff's a sock. Just don't know who it belongs to.

Wow, I thought everybody knew who Biff was.

Bingowings said:

Sin really means to miss the mark or not to achieve an aimed goal (it was originally a term in archery and was chosen when the Bible was translated with that in mind).

Yeah, I am quite familiar with the word "amartia" (which is not the only word translated "sin" in the Bible), like I said on the last page, I know Koine Greek.

We are definitely in agreement with how ridiculous it is for religious laws to be held against those who do not share those beliefs. That is another reason I don't think the word "sin" ought to be used to refer to secular ideas of right and wrong. 

Bingowings said:

^I'd buy that for a dollar.

Surely the criteria should be who is harmed by this act.

If it's a public nuisance, say two girls full on at it on the top of a double decker bus passing a seafood restaurant then it's a rather naughty act.

If it's a man chopping the legs off passing children that's really nasty.

If it's a chap launching nuclear weapons at Clare Grogan it's a crime against all humanity.

Well, the term "sin" is traditionally used to mean something against divine law. If there is no god, then I'd have to conclude that there is no such thing as "sin". If there is a god, but he/she/it is a complete "twonk" then I'd have to say what he/she/it considers to be a "sin" ought not matter to me in the slightest, unless of course, I hold some sort of fear toward this "twonkish" deity.

I don't think things like girls going at it on top of a bus could be considered a sin just because it is a public nuisance.

I guess what I am trying to say is that the very idea of "sin" without the idea of a deity, or a respected deity, is a pretty silly thing. I don't think sin, as it is traditionally defined can, or should, exist outside of religion.

"Right" vs. "wrong" is another issue entirely. Though even that I think is mostly bunk. Without some universal truth, like a creator, how can "right" and "wrong" really exist as universals? If there is no such creator, and every thing just happened by chance, then like everything else, "right" and "wrong" are relative. I think at that point, "right" and "wrong" you'd have to assume right and wrong are simply culturally defined. In some cultures it may not be wrong to hack the limbs on a child, it could be part of some ritual sanctioned by that culture, a time honored tradition seen as somehow beneficial to that given society. Without some divine law or some higher power dictating what is right or wrong, could we still read about this culture and say that their barbaric acts were "sinful" or "wrong"?

Bingowings said:

To be brief anyone who thinks Homosexual acts are a sin in of themselves (including God...whoever she is) is a twonk.

Certainly not the deepest intellectual argument I have ever heard on the subject, but I'll go with it.

What would be a "sin" then? By the angle you are taking, isn't "sin" by its very nature pure twonkery? If all it is God, who decidedly has feminine sex bits, telling us what we can and cannot do, the same twonk of a God who tells us not to bugger our best friend as well as not to murder our worst enemy, then why should we take her seriously on one think she calls a sin and not the other. Why should sodomy being called a sin be twonkerly? While murder being called a sin be reasonable?

Nanner Split said:

C3PX said:

Warbler said:

actually, I've been told that use of the word homosexual in the verse is suspect  look here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_homosexuality 

 

Errrr, wikipedia being used as a scholarly source...

Wikipedia is a lot more reputable now than it was a few years ago, now that they require references to be cited and linked to. (I agree with your post otherwise, I'm not trying to be a naysayer or anything :P )

But their are no requirements on the ligitmacy of the sources used. Still pretty sketchy. Might be a good place to start for lazy would-be researches, just so long as they follow the links back to the original source before decided they have found what they are looking for.

Anyway, I wasn't really trying to say Warb used it improperly. It is a good source for quick information. I've used wikipedia in here several times, though that always turned out to be a disaster (norms and mores discussion... *shudders*).

Warbler said:

also,  what about that thief that was crucified next to Jesus that said "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom"  and Jesus replied "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise"   

why wouldn't the same be true for a homosexual?

If Jesus told them face to face? Hell, I sure wouldn't argue with him.

Warbler said:

all I can tell you is that is the main belief of most Christian Churches.   If you accept Christ as your savior, you go to heaven.   If you don't,   you go to hell.

If there was quantifier, that we couldn't go to heaven if we sinned,  heaven would be an empty place.

I seem to remember a lot of stuff in the Bible about repentance, forgiveness, walking in the light, people being lost, even stuff about feeding the poor and hungry, and that short of stuff. I suppose that is all just dead weight? Redundant bits of information?

adywan said:

God, if kids like this are the future of our world then someone please drop the bomb now.

I've been working on it man. God knows, I've been working on it.

adywan said:

Anyway, that's it from me. This is A-Man's thread. So we need to get back on topic.

Well said. Oh hey! What's this? A new page! What better time to leave the bullshit behind!

46fleetline said:

such an old classic word from back in the day though.

No. Not really.

Be kind of like a white guy calling a black guy a racial slur, then saying that it is "such an old classic word from back in the day though" as if that should make it okay for nostalgia's sake.

What a piece of shit!

You were never right to begin with! You couldn't have been more wrong. All you are doing is insulting everyone.

46fleetline said:

a stupid comment is a stupid comment. non contructive.

Take your own advice!

Wow, the off topic infection is spreading to other parts of the site! Scary.

46fleetline said:

then come suck this cock, punk.

I know for sure Moth3r won't suck your cock, but if you are really, really, really, and I mean really nice to him, you might just get extremely lucky and get him to eat your tender vag... but most likely you'll just get banned for being an idiot and making ridiculous threats to a moderator, or if not banned you'll have made a fool of yourself. Oh wait... that has already happened...

Bingowings said:

the wooden [bi] coming stand...

Hmm, dare I even ask what a "wooden coming stand" might be?

Oh, sorry. That is me. My feet were getting kind of uncomfortable to I took my shoes off. I'll go a head and put them back on.

Man, I really miss that guy...

Dude, suddenly I really miss Garth Allen. I am feeling this very deep nostalgia for a forum member who never existed, and for discussions with him that never took place in a time before I was even born. This is a real downer. I think I need to go to bed now too...

I have taken my meds and I think I actually remember that. Back in '72 wasn't it? Hmm, maybe I need to have my doctor cut back on my meds? Pretty sure I wasn't even alive in '72.

Gaffer Tape said:

We all know how you last the battle of '72.

Hey! I have tried REALLY hard to forget that day! Please don't remind me about it... *sob*

EDIT: Oh man, you edited your post to remind me of it even more. Jerk!

bkev said:

...but I can totally watch pirated movies and play pirated games. The wii is easy to hack.

THIEF!

Uh, can't any ol' DVD player play "pirated movies?" Or if you are talking about crappy avi files off the internet, the 360 and the PS3 can both do that rather nicely as well... as for stealing games... wow... I am slightly ashamed of you now... ;)

But seriously, I'd rather buy my games and... uh... wait a minute!!! The Wii doesn't even have any games on it worth pirating, let alone buying! No wonder it is so easy to hack!

IT'S A GODAWFUL SMALL AFFAIR!!! TO THE GIRL WITH THE MOUSY HAIR!!! HER MUMMY IS YELLING "NO" AND HER DEDDY HAS TOLD HER TO GO!!! AND HER FRIEND IS NO WHERE TO BE SEEN!!! NOW SHE WALKS THROUGH HER SUNKEN DREAM!!! TO THE SEAT WITH THE CLEAREST VIEW AND SHE'S HOOKED TO THE SILVER SCREEN!!! BUT THE FILM IS A SADDENING BORE!!! FOR SHE'S LIVED IT TEN TIME OR MORE!!! SHE COULD SPIT IN THE EYES OF FOOLS, AS THEY AS HER TO FOCUS ON... ... ... SAILORS!!! FIGHTING IN THE DANCE HALL!!! OH MAN!!! LOOK AT THOSE CAVE MEN GO!!! IT'S THE FREAKIEST SHO-OH-OW!!! TAKE A LOOK AT THE LAW MEN!!! BEATING UP THE WRONG GUY!!! OH MAN! I WONDER IF HE'LL EVER KNOW! HE'S IN THE BEST SELLING SHOW?!! IS THERE LIFE ON MARS???

IT'S ON AMERICA'S TORTURED BROW!!! THAT MICKEY MOUSE HAS GROWN UP A COW...

HAHA!!!

Yep.

TV's Frink said:

What kind of person would play with people's emotions so callously?

Back on topic, I guess...

Oooh! Ooooh! I know! I know! Pick me!

ABC would!!!

I don't know, when I first read it I burst out laughing, sure it was a joke, then felt kind of bad I laughed thinking it might be real, then decided it didn't really matter one way or another.

Ripplin said:

 warroes

Mmm, my favorite cereal!

doubleofive said:

Please, be yourself.  I'm sure we'll have a couple beers in us (its payday), so we'll be pretty jovial.

Wooohooo! Playing L4D with druken 3PX! Trust me, that happens and your wife will demand you delete your ot.com account as soon as the gaming session is over. I'll be sure to buy a mini keg before we start. ;)

doubleofive said:

Unless xhonzi and 3PX are as insane IRL as they are on the boards.  I know (hope) I'm not. ;-)

Hmm, maybe I should leave my mic switched off...

Johnny Ringo said:

i could be up for some perfect dark at some point...shame I don't have l4d.

I'd very much be into that!

I am still only ignored by my two arch nemesis (GA and V) and Darth Lars. Still not sure why Darth Lars ignored me, and still surprised those are the only three.