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#274935
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Video Games - a general discussion thread
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Originally posted by: C3PX
Majora's Mask felt like a rushed work in order to cash in on the excitement of OoT.


Wait, wait.... Whazzat?!

Majora's Mask is one of the best in the series, though for very different reasons. There are only four dungeons, but they're all very good, and Majora's Mask comes closer than any other game in history to feeling like a real living, breathing world. How the heck did it feel like a rushed work?


Eh, I don't know. I know some people really liked it, but it never really clicked with me. It came out at a time where I didn't get a whole lot of time to play it, and after playing it for a while I kind of lost interest, just didn't hold on to me like all the others did. I picked it up sometime later and played it to the point where I got the Goron mask, then it got kind of cool and I invested some more time in it, then I got bored again, then finally a good two years after I bought it I finally buckled down and beat it. It wasn't a bad game, I just felt it was subpar. I know a lot of people who felt the same way about it. It did feel a little recycled with the reused sprites, but that didn't bother me too much, because it fit the whole surreal through the looking glass feel of the game (which was something I thought was a cool idea). Yeah, I guess that is why it came off as rushed to me, it was short and just about every single model felt recycled, I have always considered it more of an "expansion pack" to OoT. I must admit, the time travel was pretty cool though.

It seems every "major" Zelda game has kind of a lesser follow up game to accompany it. Not to say the lesser game is always bad, or even subpar, but they usually have to try something different to keep from reusing the main story again. For example:

Zelda with the Gannon/Princess Zelda story - by Zelda II which tries out a new style and formate and with a different story line
A Link to the Past with the Gannon/Princess Zelda story - Link's Awakening which takes place on some obscure island (but was a brilliant game, especially for the GB)
OoT with the Gannon/Princess Zelda story - Majora's Mask which follows an obscure story in some offbeat world

See what I mean? It was kind of tradition for a while there. None of the followups (in my opinion) have ever been quite as good as the main features. I definately wouldn't throw MM out, but If I were to choose between it an Ocarina, I would take Ocarina any day of the week.
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#274822
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Video Games - a general discussion thread
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You skipped the SNES, which was long lived and a very popular system only had one Zelda games, also the original Gameboy only had one (if you consider the GB and the GB Color to be two separate systems as I do). I must also say that the quality of the franchise is less when the quantity is more. Majora's Mask felt like a rushed work in order to cash in on the excitement of OoT.

EDIT: Oops, I didn't see the with the exception of the SNES part when I first read your post.
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#274802
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American Attitudes (foreigners welcome)
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It is funny you should mention Japanese culture. I have been doing some very light research on that recently. I would consider Japan the most Westernized of Eastern cultures, and the struggle between the two makes for a very interesting cultural situation. I had some one on one discussions with a number of Japanese college students, it was quite interesting. They had only been in America for one and a half semesters so far and are preparing to return to Japan in just a couple of weeks, so the American culture is still very new to them. One guy asked me why I was wearing a short sleave shirt at the end of Feburary. I told him because it was a warm day it felt comfortable. He told me in Japan they have certain etiquette which they follow and you only wear t-shirts in the summer, which started exactly on the 1st of June. He said you could go to Japan and you will not see anyone with a t-shirt anytime before June first, no matter how hot it is before then. On the flip side, at the moment he asked me the question he was wearing a t-shirt shirt himself, so I asked him why he was wearing one at the end of Feburary, and he told me "Hey, I am in America. It is a warn day and it feels comfortable." I found that the Japanese have a very strong respect for rules, even traditional ones that are not enforced by anyone. You simply don't go outside in only a t-shirt before June 1st, just like you simply don't do a number of other things. I found it interesting that these rules are only applicable in Japan. There were any number of these rules that they would break while here in American but once they get back to Japan they wouldn't dream of breaking etiquette.
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#274730
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American Attitudes (foreigners welcome)
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I shall make a donation of two cents to your project.

Paul, where are you from? And where are you going to school? According to your profile you live in the state of Washington. Judging by your post I will assume you are either in high school or below, or are a foreigner. Please don't tell me this be a college sociology class! Especially if it is being offered in America. I took more than my fair share of sociology classes in my college days, and this thing is extremely out of whack from anything I would expect to see. It takes a fairly negative stance towards American culture (though not half as negative as your post) and it fails to understand the concept of culture.

I very much resent your comments on "how that's lame that American's thing that," and especially "how this differs from you as an individual, how you've received clarification on how super cool we are..."

I fail to see how Americans think of themselves as "super cool" just because they live in their culture and by their social norms. I suppose Germans think they are super bloody (we love to steal words from the British, we find it super cool) cool because they are German, and the French because they are French, the Greeks because they are Greek, etc. You can search the whole world and never, ever find a culture that fits you like your own. You may find one in which you find some of their differences fascinating and maybe you will even prefer them to your own. But to holistically abandon everything that has been encultured in you and to fully accept acculturation.

Yes, American culture is exported and sold abroad. I could write for hours on this subject, but I will just sum up my opinions to say that it is in some ways extremely unfortunate. Unfortunate that some countries would rather watch American TV and American movies of which they hardly understand the puns and jokes, rather than film, watch, and support their own culture and make they films. I also find it extremely and mutually unfortunate for Americans and any applicable country that McDonald's has come to be considered American food.

The question is why do other cultures buy into and drink so deeply from imported American goods, then turn around and say that America should butt the hell out and leave the rest of the world alone, or any number of other things that are commonly said by other countries. I just don't get it. If Americans and so lame, stop eating our nasty little hamburgers. Stop watching our silly little movies that are ridden with our filthy and laughably close minded values and world view. Stop drinking our fizzy brown water in the red bottles.

In fact, I think the idea that Americans are super cool is perhaps more of a foreign concept that one to be found here on the home front. After all, why would we buy American products if they were not super cool? Sure their are a lot with a very simple view of the world who would never dream to wander past their boarders, and maybe this makes them seem ignorant and close minded, but every country has that to an extend. It is unfair judgment.

Paul, I think you could use the above to answer pretty much every question on that list. You can honestly put down that every American you talked to disliked the questions. Also, I am in my mid twenties, so perhaps I am ten years older. Hope you can get the bonus points. Good luck. Let us know how it goes.
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#274582
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Spider-Man 2.1 - Extended Cut
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Is it just me or does this sound like the most gratuitous extended cut yet? I didn't see it on TV but I was really interested in it. I spent some time last week Googling the added scenes and it sounds like complete fluff except for Jameson in the suit. Do I REALLY need to see Mary Jane going shoe shopping? Kirsten's phoned-in performance notwithstanding, the theatrical cut was damn near pitch-perfect. This EE doesn't sound like a LOTR or Superman or Dances With Wolves or James Cameron film, where the extensions bring a whole new level of depth to the characters and situations. It sounds like a pretty blatant stop at the Spidey-Fan ATM to help offset the cost of Spidey 3.


You're just jealous because they got to the Spidey 2 extended edition before you did J/K. Yeah, I agree with you about the stop in at the Spidey-Fan ATM. Hopefully this is absolutely nothing like the X-Men 2.1 DVD, which was terribly done. I am sure it will be, since standards for extended DVDs has risen since X-Men 2.1.
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#274574
Topic
Video Games - a general discussion thread
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Judging by the condition of my PlayStation which can barely load CDs anymore, and my N64 which works as well as the day I bought it. I am nervous about CD/DVD based consoles as far as longevity goes. I am fairly certain my N64 will last just as well as my previous Nintendo consoles (sans the NES with its poor cartridge loading system). However, with a GameCube what are the chances they will still be operation ten years from now? I can see why some of you are talking about buying a second unit and keeping it boxed. Motors inevitable burn out, and any CD device requires two motors. I guess it is a good thing the Wii has backwards compatibility. How great would it have been if they would have allowed classic controller support for Wii. Imagine an adapter that allowed you to plug in your NES, SNES, or N64 controller? Then all those old games would be perfect.


Originally posted by: TheCassidy
Originally posted by: C3PX
Originally posted by: Nanner Split
Originally posted by: C3PX
Originally posted by: TheCassidy
Originally posted by: sean wookie
I'm not interested in selling it at the moment. But lets see what it's worth in 10 years.


As someone who has sold many, many games and regretted it later, hang on to your games forever.


Couldn't agree with you more. You never get what they are worth at the moment, and you will regret it in the future. Then if one day you decide to undo that regret and go any buy your old memories again, you will find they cost more than what you sold them for.


Unless the games you want to sell are Superman 64 and Wave Race: Blue Storm.


Ha, I have forgotten about some of those. Now I remember Pilot Wings, Wave Race, and Shadows of the Empire were the first games I ever played on the 64. Needless to say, Shadows was the only one I bought when I finally owned my 64.


Man, that battle against IG-88 was insane. The noise he made was totally freaky...



That was my absolute favorite level. I loved the music and looking in the background and making out familiar ships and machines hidden in the heaps of trash. I really liked jumping from train to train, it always got the blood flowing, especially on the harder difficulties. And yes, the battle with IG-88, I loved that battle. I like how he would sometimes jump and disappear, and while you are looking all over for him you suddenly hear the creepy noises he makes and he is behind you.

The "wampastompa" code in that game was really cool too. While it was very glitchy, it was cool to be able to control AT-STs, Stormtroopers, and Wampas. It was a really hard code to enter too. I invented a method using a toothpick stuck into the small in the middle of the joystick to allow you to use your teeth to assist in enter the code. It became much easier that way. Some of my friends would just use their chins to enter the code, but I found I could never hold the stick at the correct angle for long enough to get it to work. Those Lucasarts guys use to come up with some really cool secrets in their games. Like in Rogue Squadron for the 64, you could fly a Buick, or even a Naboo fighter long before Episode I even came out. They released the code shortly after the film hit theaters and it was hard to imagine this ship had been hidden in the game for the last five months without anybody even knowing about it. Then way back in the WIN95/DOS days they had all sorts of neat things hidden in Rebel Assault II, the most impressive of which was the Mystery Science Theater 3000 mode complete with silhouettes. That was fantastic, especially if you were a fan of that show.
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#274569
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The Children of Hurin
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Since this whole Children of Hurin thing I have had renewed interest in Tolkien. I stumbled across this site: http://www.simontolkien.com/jrrtolkien.html

It is the personal website of Simon Tolkien, J. R. R. Tolkien's grandchild, Christopher Tolkien's eldest son. Simon is a lawyer and as of 2003 a published writer. The particular page I have given a link to is an article he wrote about his relationship with his grandfather. It is a very interesting article and an enjoyable read. There is one sort of off handed comment that he kind of just throws in there, saying that when his father choose new board members for the Tolkien Estate he was not among them. I don't know, the way it was written it seems like he saw this as a bit of a put down. He is from Christopher's first marriage, which ended badly, I get the impression he doesn't have much of a relationship with his father. He is the only of Christopher's children to have known Tolkien, and from the article it seems he and J.R.R. had a pretty strong relationship. I don't know the guy or anything about him other than the brief bits posted, but I feel sorry he is not one of the board members of the estate. From what I have read about Tolkien I am not sure he would like things the way they are now. Of course all I can do is speculate, which is quite meaningless.

You know, I bet having a last name like "Tolkien" is no small advantage in the publishing world. Being a true descendant of J.R.R., I bet all he had to do was mail in a few manuscript and wait for the phone calls and find out what publisher was willing to pay the most. Not much a fan of court room/crime novels, but I may have to keep my eyes open for this one, perhaps only for a curiosity piece.
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#274563
Topic
Video Games - a general discussion thread
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Originally posted by: Nanner Split
Originally posted by: C3PX
Originally posted by: TheCassidy
Originally posted by: sean wookie
I'm not interested in selling it at the moment. But lets see what it's worth in 10 years.


As someone who has sold many, many games and regretted it later, hang on to your games forever.


Couldn't agree with you more. You never get what they are worth at the moment, and you will regret it in the future. Then if one day you decide to undo that regret and go any buy your old memories again, you will find they cost more than what you sold them for.


Unless the games you want to sell are Superman 64 and Wave Race: Blue Storm.


Ha, I have forgotten about some of those. Now I remember Pilot Wings, Wave Race, and Shadows of the Empire were the first games I ever played on the 64. Needless to say, Shadows was the only one I bought when I finally owned my 64.
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#274561
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Is there anything you do like about The Prequels...
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Originally posted by: andy_k_250
Hey, the Rebels could have shot a volley of long-range shots directly at the exhaust port from a thousand miles away using just the right trajectory, if they had wanted to and "really" knew what they were doing. I'm sure at least one would have gone in. That would have been a much better ending for Star Wars.


That would have been so lame. Talk about anti-climax. The whole point of the movie is good triumphing over evil against all odds. If laser blast could really travel forever without depleting then the galaxy would be a very dangerous place with rogue laser blasts constantly flying from every direction.
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#274557
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Video Games - a general discussion thread
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Originally posted by: TheCassidy
Originally posted by: sean wookie
I'm not interested in selling it at the moment. But lets see what it's worth in 10 years.


As someone who has sold many, many games and regretted it later, hang on to your games forever.


Couldn't agree with you more. You never get what they are worth at the moment, and you will regret it in the future. Then if one day you decide to undo that regret and go any buy your old memories again, you will find they cost more than what you sold them for.

On the other hand there are many things I have kept for the sake of selling someday, that have failed to gain any sort of value despite the fact they were valuable at the time.
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#274492
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Video Games - a general discussion thread
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Whoa, fifteen bucks used for the Master Quest disc? I have one still in shrink wrap. I sure wish I had that Collector's Edition disc if it is going for $50 used. I really don't think it is worth near that much. I would agree with Chaltab, Majora's mask is the only game on that disc not currently on the VCS, and there is no doubt it will be released in the near future. Doesn't Wind Waker sell for around $10 used now? It is crazy these free bonus discs go for so much. I bet the existence of the whole Wii shop thing will knock their value down considerably. Probably in a couple of years you will be able to get them for pennies. Of course I thought the same thing when I pawned off my two gold cartridges of the two NES games and I am annoyed everytime I think about it. I have still never found them at a decend price in any decend kind of condition.
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#274384
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Video Games - a general discussion thread
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There were golds and grays for the initial release. If you have the gold version you know you have the unaltered version, but if you have the grays it is harder. It does sound like your N64 cart is the first modified version Cassidy. From what I have read it sounds like the Wii version is the GC version only with the top right button icons changed back to the sixtyfour's style.
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#274351
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EVERYONE MUST RESPOND TO THIS POLL
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The hot.like.fire thread was discomfortingly successful. That is why I tried to capitalize on its success with my hot.like.c3px thread. Unforunately for me people saw it for the cheap knockoff it was and it failed miserably.


Originally posted by: sybeman
And people wonder why there are "I'm leaving" threads. This poll would be reason enough.


Honestly, lighten up. Stupid threads like this are no reason to leave. Just ignore them and they go away. There are plenty of other good topics going around. If you don't see any topics that you like, start some new ones.
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#274345
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The Children of Hurin
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I have always wondered why the Tolkien Estate is so tight with everything. It really is ashame. I know they have been burnt in the past with copyright stuff and been taken advantage of. But now adays they would be pretty well protected. If J.R.R. Tolkien himself were still alive I doubt he would be so strict with everything. I would gladly pay for a lot of this stuff. Sometimes it feels like the Tolkien Estate is a bit too RIAAish about Tolkien's work and things related to it. I certainly do hope his Beowulf translation gets released sometime in the future. I am glade little things like Roverandom and Mr. Bliss make their way to the publisher every so many years. I hope there will be more minor works of his like this to appear briefly on our bookstore shelves in the future.
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#274231
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Prequel Character Names
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Originally posted by: aled
Qui-Gon Jinn is an OK name, i think.

A lot of the other ones aren't as good, though.


Qui-Gon's whole character hardly fits with the PT atmosphere. Back in 1999 who would have thought that by 2007 a cool PT character would be such a novel thing.

With that said, the prequels didn't really have a guy named Sleazbaggno did they? Please say no. Because if they did this whole discussion has just become pointless.

In defense of Sny Snoodles, and Droopy McCool, they come from a ROTJ which is a lot closer to PT quality than the other too. Also they are show business names of people in a band, [sarcasm]which is totally absurd. In the real world bands and band members have the most normal names I could imagine.[/sarcasm]

Bothans? I fail to see anything too lame about that. Sounds as good as any other alien name I have ever heard. Grand Moff? Why not? Greedo... well, you got me on that one. Boba Fett, that one is pretty terrible too. But Padme? Seriously. I am glad to know I am not the only one who has an image of feminine pads come to mind everytime I hear it. The first time I heard Queen Amidala address her as Padme I expected somebody to hand her a pillow.

And I certianly don't think you could ever compare Jabba to Grevious. I find OT names for the most part, to be comparable to alien names of anyother sience fiction film or novel. PT names on the other hand... I swear the guys kid must have made them up. Probaby he named them all after his childrens stuff animals.
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#274223
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The Go-Mer-Tonic™ Thread - Today's Topic: Whose your favorite author and why?
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Nanner mentioned being a Monty Python fan in ric's farewell thread, I couldn't find he and ric's old Monty Python thread and my precious The Go-Mer-Tonic™ thread was slipping into oblivion so I thought I would nail two birds with one stone and resurrect this instead of wasting my time using the very simple search function.

Not that Jabberwocky was a Monty Python movie, but it had a few of the elements, including actors, writer and director. Does anybody else enjoy this film? I find most people really dislike it, or simply won't sit through it.