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#277117
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The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/277117/action/topic#277117
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Okay, I threw together a quick edit of what I had in mind for the ending of Episode III, just to show how it works. This was thrown together in just a little over five minutes so it is pretty rough, and it needs a lot of work on the music, but if you watch it you will get the idea. I was actually pleased to see it fit together pretty well, better than I had hoped. I actually don't think it would turn out to be that abrupt of an ending after all.

ROTS ending

Another part I am trying a few things with to see what can be done to improve is the death of Windu and the turn of Anakin. I played around with that scene a little today, and I found a few things that might improve that scene a little.
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#277062
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Video Games - a general discussion thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/277062/action/topic#277062
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Ah, a third one to add to my crowing achievements on that list,

3. Finding the right formula to beat 'Oregon Trail' in record time and impress all the other kids when I was in the grades.

Yeah, I know it isn't a hard game, but with all the kids who couldn't beat the thing before all their family died, I gained a lot of cool points for being able to rocket right through that stupid game on grueling pace without resting once (usually I had only one family member left at the end though.
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#277054
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Video Games - a general discussion thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/277054/action/topic#277054
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Ah, I am sure there are more that I cannot think of right now but the very top two I can think of are,

1. Finishing "Zelda II"
2. Making it as far as I have in "Battletoads"

'The Adventures of Link' isn't on virtual console yet? Is there a release date in sight? The first one is right? I can't wait until Zelda II comes to the VC, the discussion in here will be great. Sage, I highly recommend you get it for curiosity reasons, but I would advise you not to attempt to beat it. If you thought starting at the beginning of a dungeon was annoying... you haven't seen anything yet.
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#277051
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The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/277051/action/topic#277051
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Originally posted by: RemixerBoss
I might have come back and had a leaving thread, but I kept my name and improved on myself, unlike the member I was reffering to, ZigFried


Why does ZigFried bother you so much? I don't ever even remember the two of you having any interchanges in which you should be so annoyed. It is also amazing how similair your personalities are. If you don't want people to think you are zig, you might want to stop bringing him up and complaining about him. Saying things like, I hate members who make I am leaving threads then come back under different names, could make people suspicious that you might be making an attempt to distance yourself with an old identity. Not making any accusations here, but I bet I am not the only whose mind this has crossed.
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#277048
Topic
The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/277048/action/topic#277048
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Yes, the piece that plays during Anakin's death in ROTJ would be a perfect mirror for his "death" in ROTS.

Ringo, currently I am uncertain of who exactly is in charge of the ranch, but I think it is commander courage. As far as who are members of the ranch, I guess there are some unofficial ones but the general idea has always been for brain storming from community, not just the editors. Current state of development is or was absolutely nothing. It was originally planned to make all six films, filling in and ironing out all the plot holes and making a complete saga. At one point Trooperman's episode II edit was going to be the ranch Ep. II, if this is still the case then I guess you could say the ranch is pretty close (but yet painfully far) from finishing one. Of course we have not seen Shroud of the Darkside yet, so we don't know how it turned out. Also if we use Shroud, TM will have to dub the voice of Anakin for Ep. III.

"Are you guys actually doing all 6 films or rather tagging other works as 'ranch aproved'?

The ranched approved thing has never been part of the plan as far as I know.


EDIT: d'oh! Looks like Musicman beat me to answering Ringo's questions. Sorry about the redundant data.
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#276989
Topic
The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/276989/action/topic#276989
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Originally posted by: Sluggo
Anakin could go limp and Obi and the audience assume he is dead, Obi turns and leaves to go save Padme. As their ship flies away we see another shot of Anakin's body, then a close up of his robotic hand and the fingers grasping the dirt letting us know that he is still alive. Fade to black. Next scene.


I don't think we could pull it off, but it would be interesting to see Anakin actually dead, but the creepy, robotic hand pull Anakin out of danger on it's own.

Back to reality, who's in charge of the Ranch these days? Could we get some decisions on this set in stone? I know we are waiting for SOTDS to be finished, but it shouldn't stop us from at least getting the pre-production done.


No, no, I don't mean his robot hand is acting of its own accord. This is the shot that actually exists, it is Anakin's robot hand, the only one left on his body and it is griping the ground in pain. I mean for the to be the close up shot. The only thing you would have to alter for my cut to work would be to make still fram Anakin but keep the lava in the background moving. It is beyond my ability, but I think it is easily enough done for someone with the know how.

I had considered making a mockup edit of my idea, thank Marvolo you saved me the trouble. Though I have not seen your clip yet, so I am not sure how it looks or how close it is to my idea. I like your idea of the imperial march bit in there. I am not sure which would fit the piece there better there, eerie music/silence or the imperial march.

EDIT: Just watched Marvolo's clip. That is very much what I had in mind, only I find a fade to black on that hand to transition to the next scene really add to it. And I really didnt think the imperial march fit. To upbeat. Maybe the next second of it would work better, the bit that is playing when Yoda first come on screen. Imagine if you edited out the groans of Anakin and made it so he wasn't moving in the distance shot, maybe even a shot of his still body burning to establish that he is dead, or at least that we and Obi are sure he is dead and not just leaving him to die, which is how it seem in the film.. I wish there was a slower shot of Obi watching in dispair. I still feel he leaves to quickly.
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#276952
Topic
The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/276952/action/topic#276952
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Originally posted by: Marvolo
Honestly, I hate the idea of working on I, because it is such a horrible film in its current state. I hadn't thought about Jedi but now that you mention it, I like the idea of doing Jedi more than III. Its up to you all, but I liked the discussions and ideas that were brought up a while back about Jedi, and since Jedi has already been discussed some, I vote for Jedi.


I think III would be the way to go. TM's SOTDS will still be the ranch Episode II right? So this is the logical place to continue. I honestly think it would be a big mistake to do them so out of order. If you work from the beginning to the end I think it will be easier to make them all snap together. If you do Jedi first, then you have to make Sith fit whatever changes were made in both II and VI. Episode I is nearly an impossible one to tackle, it would be good to get it out of the way, but it is in fact very minorly connected to the rest of the films and so there are not as many continuty problems to worry about but rather story problems, I think the difficulty of the edit would potentially be discouraging to the editors. Also since it is not as closely connected to the other five I don't think it is as important that this one be done in order as I think the others are.

Also as far as the ending, I agree with Erik, I don't feel the Yoda scene is that important. I kind of like the idea of not know what happened to him after ROTS until we get to ESB. Also while having Anakin literally die is an interesting idea, if the decision is not to go that way, the scene could still work with Obi-Wan watching in horror as his friend dies, Anakin could go limp and Obi and the audience assume he is dead, Obi turns and leaves to go save Padme. As their ship flies away we see another shot of Anakin's body, then a close up of his robotic hand and the fingers grasping the dirt letting us know that he is still alive. Fade to black. Next scene.

For my part I think it would be really cool to have that the very last we ever see of Anakin Skywalker until ROTJ. The audience will piece everything together when they hear about him being more machine than man and when they see his charred head in ESB. You get that he survived and was rescued, you don't get the details but from a story telling standpoint you do not need to.

Also the issue of Leia being called Organa won't give anything away. We meet Bail in ROTS so we will just connect the dots and realize that Leia is his daughter. If we only show Luke's birth and nothing of Leia at the end of ROTS. Then in ROTJ it does not matter if they are made to be twins or not, if they are to be twins then Obi-Wan's explaining that they were separated and hidden at birth will be the only explaination needed. We will figure that she had her right after Luke then died, then it is very easy to realize that Bail adopted her. He had loyalty to Padme and her cause, why not take care of and protect her daughter and raise her as his own. The editing out of the "Do you remember your mother, your real mother?" being clipped from Jedi will also fill a huge plot hole.
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#276947
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What happened to the Gomer Tronic-something user?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/276947/action/topic#276947
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Originally posted by: Major fatal Moebius
Yes. Before I signed up, I lurked around from time to time in the general star wars section and Gomer really seemed to have some totalitarian grip on all the threads. He always seemed to hijack them with uttermost care.

The thing is, I didn't think he was a bad user, nor a bad person, but something about him seemed a little fishy. And are you sure he actually left?


Hmm, you curiosity is interesting. Perhaps you are Gomer and wish to make sure we are not suspecting that you have a new name.

I guess it is possible he has a new name to toss his old reputation behind. Before he left he just short of admited that he has alway been an ass.


If he was just he because he was banned at TF.n, then lets hope he doesn't get banned again. He is more their kind of poster anyway, I am sure he feels more at hoem there than here.
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#276928
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What happened to the Gomer Tronic-something user?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/276928/action/topic#276928
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Yeah, I devoted a political talk show sort of thread to him intending him to be the host so he could argue rediculously controversial topics. Shortly after that he just vanished. I guess during all this time of members demanding his banishment all that they ever needed to do was devote a thread to him and he would disappear. Wasn't my intention but it worked. Who would have thought?

As far as the "is this what every one wanted comment" I know plenty of people who definately wished he would leave. He loved to argue, and and you couldn't say a bad thing about the PT without facing him. He could be pretty annoying, and come to think of it, he is the reason I stopped even bothering to checkout the General SW discussion thread. But I would not say that I personally wished him to leave. He really didn't mess with the off-topic and preservation threads much. Before he left he had been spending more time in off-topic, perhaps if he had done to it what he did to SW board, then I might have had a stronger opinion against him.
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#276828
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I'm leaving.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/276828/action/topic#276828
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Originally posted by: Jay
This place isn't what it used to be. All the good members have left and the moderators are assholes.

Auf wiedersehen you Nazis.


Screw you Jay! This place is still awesome and our moderators happen to like being assholes!

Auf Wiedersehen you... uh... anti-Nazi!


EDIT: Just to make sure I don't get banned I'll add this smily ->
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#276825
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The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/276825/action/topic#276825
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Originally posted by: musicman
Well, you still have the issue of Leia appearing in the OT as an Organa--it is explicitly referred to as Bail as her father in ANH, right, not just one of the people Obi-Wan worked with? I could've sworn she said Organa. That would take some editing to not have people putting two and two together pretty quick. Because in ROTS, the other baby gets taken with Bail--but, hmm...perhaps you could cut out Bail's line of "My wife and I have always wanted a daughter." If you leave out the naming of Leia, then it's very ambiguous.

I do think it would be cool for Leia not to turn out to be Luke's sister, and then we don't have to cut out that hilarious shot with Threepio walking up to see Leia giving Luke a kiss in ESB. And, for the record, I was one who always rooted for Luke to end up with Leia. It does seem more in the spirit of the original, you know? That whole, old-school, serial thing. The main protagonist gets the girl. And it is also in keeping with Kurtz and Ford's wishes--that Han dies. I think it would have been cool if Han died saving the team on the sail barge, and then Luke goes nuts on the criminals. It's a shame there isn't the kind of footage to accomplish that...or is there? I don't suppose there would be. Han's pretty integral to the rest of the story. Oh, well. There's my little mini-rant about how things turned out.

But at least if we can make it so Luke and Leia aren't related, then that's a help.



Hmmm, Harrison Ford was all for the death of Han thing. Maybe we could convince him to film a few new scenes.

Isn't it kind of silly that they are shocked when Padme has twins? With our modern technology nobody gets shocks like this anymore right? Twins are very easily detected by ultrasound, so why would a civilization with faster than light space travel and creepy "ooba"ing robots to deliver your baby not be able to find this out? I mean it was clear Padme was pregnant so she had no reason to hid it and not go to the doctor, she lived on the weathliest planet in the galaxy and was filthy rich (do you have any idea how much an apartment like that costs in Coruscant the days!), so why wouldn't she know that she was having twins? And why wouldn't she tell her husband that she was going to have twins?

I think it might work just to lop off the scene after the birth of Luke, maybe even end with her scream and then somehow establish that she died. Since it is a robot maybe a sythezised female voice saying that we are loosing her, sir we need you to leave the room. With this Leia could potientially be Luke's sister, or not, depending on how ROTJ was edited (I don't see how Han-Leia-Luke triangle could be solved with out it though). It is easy enough to say after the fact that they were twins. Maybe after Luke's birth the next scene could be the funeral and Obi-Wan dropping Luke off at the Lars farm. It is a pretty abrupt end though. If the birth of Vader stuff was left in then I guess it would add the extra screen time needed to slow the pace of the ending to a reasonable speed. Even Lucas' ending is pretty rushed. Everything we have waited over 20 years to see happens in a tacked on blink of an eye at the end of three long and mostly pointless films.

I still think all these things should have happened in Ep. II and the closure of Padme dying, Luke being raised by Moisture Farmers, the birth of Darth Vader and the exile of Yoda and Obi should have been the premise of Ep.3. I think two confrontations between Anakin and Obi-Wan should have been made. The first was as a shock to Obi who could hardly bring himself to fight, this battle could have ended abruptly for some reason, maybe with Anakin loosing an apendage then escaping (mirroring ESB perhaps). In the next film, after Obi-Wan see what his old friend is capable of realizes that Anakin no longer exists, at the climax of the film Obi and Darth fight it out, with Anakin loosing and falling to his death, but unknown to Obi-Wan being saved by the Emperor. Of course none of this matters because that is not how it happened, I just like to dream sometimes.
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#276737
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ROTS Easter Egg - I Am Highly Frightened
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/276737/action/topic#276737
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Originally posted by: Darth Solo
Dont encourage him any futher C3PX. If he cant accept other people CAN have an opinion on anything no matter how trivial, without posting a reply that aims to bait anyone who cares enough to get uptight to his response, then let him play somewhere else


I was not intending to encourage anyone to debate this more, I just thought stillhiro's comment about the level of hate being like a cartoon was funny.
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#276734
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The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/276734/action/topic#276734
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Whoa, this last page has totally taken a turn for the worse. The last page seemed like some interesting discussion, I come back to see if any one has replied to my post or the one Erikstormtrooper made and I find a tired old discussion about Hayden vs. Shaw that I have heard countless times before. remixer's edit has its own thread now, so this thread is now welcome to get back on topic. In the interest of steering this thread back in a fruitful direction:

Originally posted by: Erikstormtrooper
Here's another one of my wacky ideas: Make Leia's identity as Luke's sister ambiguous.

This involves removing the following:
-naming the babies in ROTS
-talking about the babies' fates aboard the Tantive IV in ROTS
-dropping off the babies in ROTS
-the "last hope" "no, there is another" exchange in ESB
-Obi Wan naming Leia as Luke's sister in ROTJ
-Luke mentioning to Leia in ROTJ that she's his sister (he will still mention to her that he has a sister, just not that it's her)

Then we get to the end of ROTJ, where Leia kisses Han. Now this is the tricky bit. There are two ways you can go with this:

1) Leia is NOT Luke's sister - This scene needs to be tweaked in a way that still allows Han and Leia to have some kind of resolution. This has the advantage of leaving the identity ambiguous. I personally like a few loose ends in my Star Wars movies.
2) Leia IS Luke's sister - This scene stands as it is, and it now becomes a revelation scene. This is not as satisfying as option 1, but the viewer at least gets to think back and put all the pieces together for him/herself. And the viewer gets to share in Han's WTF expression.

Discuss!




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#276728
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Return of the Jedi Remixer Boss Edition (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/276728/action/topic#276728
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Some of the changes seem really incredible. I think it would be a challenge for the most skilled of editors, but I do not wish to discourage you. I say have at it and see what you can do. At one point people were making fun of trooperman when he first mentioned his plans for Shroud of the Dark Side, now that we have seen some of what he could do we have been very impressed. So, don't let people discourage you, go for it. After all, you have already had enough motivation to buy the tools off of ebay, this says that you are serious about this. Even if your first few tries come out as crap, once the members around here see you are serious and want to make this work they may be willing to lend you a hand, or at least point you in the direction of some good tutorials on whatever effect you are trying to achieve. Good luck.