Brewzter

Jar Jar Bricks said:

I suppose it’s possible that as a moody teenager he ran away from home (the Resistance) and joined up with the wrong people for a while. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the canon answer eventually.

As someone who has read every single piece of canon media, I can confirm that’s literally the answer haha. There was a book released in August last year called “Poe Dameron: Free Fall” which detailed his spice-running career’s start and end. He initially got caught up in it because he was frustrated by how overprotective his father was of him after his mother’s death and how bored he was stuck in his boring small town on Yavin IV, so while in the only remotely interesting thing near his house, the local bar, he overheard some of the Kijimi Spice Runners discussing how they needed a new pilot (after the last one was killed) and he, in classic Poe Dameron fashion, acted like a hot-shot-best-pilot-in-the-galaxy and joined the crew as their new pilot.

Hal 9000 said:

I imagine the Luke figure batting fire toward the walker would be the best bet for about a second of footage followed by laughter. If Luke vanished without reappearing it may seem like the children are laughing at the defeat of this traitorous Jedi figure.

Agreed, I think showing him disappearing and then the children laughing gives off the wrong impression

Yeah I like the idea of Luke doing some godly act in it like reflecting the shots back at the walker and then it collapsing, hence the laughter from the children. I think it would enforce the legendary/mythical status he has across the galaxy.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

Brewzter, that idea is exactly why I wish we could have Luke’s standoff replace the puppet show on Pasaana. I don’t care if it was their cultural holiday, I still feel that it would have been amazing to show it there again.

Exactly. It would be a small detail but it’s just so ridiculously obvious I can’t imagine how it didn’t happen haha

Yep, it’s in The Rise of Kylo Ren comic, issue #4

I think that’s the whole point, right? The First Order had scared the galaxy into submission at that point. Luke’s arc in TLJ was about accepting his status as the legend the galaxy needs- no one showed up to help the Resistance on Crait, but after Luke’s mythical stand-off with the First Order, his legend was back stronger than ever and it inspired the entire galaxy to rise up.

I think it’s cool how the general galaxy has an arc where they became complacent after the relatively small Rebellion took down the Empire, and ignored the warning signs of fascism coming back. The New Republic is wiped out, fascism returns, and the people are terrified. It’s the legend of Luke that inspires them to realize they can’t just rely on the Resistance as they did with the Rebellion, and everyone stands up across the galaxy. It’s a pretty relevant and important message to the real world right now too.

Looks amazing! Glad to see it

Edit: nevermind, I misread something

Hal 9000 said:
Here’s what I’m leaning toward as far as placement: https://vimeo.com/515582857

Yeah this placement works the best IMO. It doesn’t split up the shot of Kylo looking toward his mom and it draws your eyes to the medal as Leia lays down

Jar Jar Bricks said:
I ask because people on this edit, myself included, liked the idea that Ben still has a crackley saber even on the light side. It shows that his past actions still exist. Also, some people could think it was a major visual effects error because up until that point the effect has blatantly been there.

Agreed, I think the idea of Anakin’s saber crackling when Ben wields it is the most symbolically powerful part

Back again with v3 of Anakin’s Force ghost. I’ve now made the fade-in smoother, added slight full-body movement, and made the transparency match the other three more. I’m pretty happy with this now, but I’m definitely interested in seeing if I can somehow get a slight blue aura around him and a bit of living motion like robe or hair movement although I think that’s far outside the realm of my abilities.

https://vimeo.com/514842708

Jar Jar Bricks said:

sherlockpotter said:

It makes the Light Side/Dark Side dichotomy more apparent, true - that would be a big step up from the J.J. version. But it still doesn’t quite explain why Palpy would order her to be killed when that would ruin his entire plan.

Don’t want to get back into that argument again lol. I just explained his plan, so I will just summarize the answer to your question. Rey was his Plan B to transfer his essence into if Kylo didn’t commit himself fully to the dark side. The test to see if he would go to the dark side is if he killed Rey. Make sense?

EDIT: Realized you might be talking about him backing his crane out and having his guards attack her. In that case, he was concerned that her intentions in killing him truly were pure and Jedi-like.

I think the edit is correct. He was like, oh shit, she’s actually able to kill me without giving into anger, so he just backs off thinking “whatever, my Sovereign Protectors will kill her and then I’ll try again with Ben”

sherlockpotter said:

To be clear, Palpy’s plan for Rey is:

• Order Kylo to kill Rey.
• Anticipate him both trying to mow her down with his ship. But actually not want to kill her after all.
• Secretly lure Rey to him by means of…Ochi’s Dagger?
• Convince her to kill him by telling her it’s what he wants?
• Send his guards to try and kill Rey in the throne room as she’s about to kill him anyway
• Try to kill Rey anyway once the guards fail to do so
• Resurrect himself…some other way, I guess?
• Rule over a galaxy that he’s completely destroyed.

All of this convoluted nonsense could be avoided if his plan can be retooled to “Kill Rey because she is the last great threat to his return.”

I don’t think so?

The plan was, now that Kylo had realized his potential to be a Sith by killing Snoke, to tell Kylo to go kill Rey. If Kylo kills her, then he further deepens himself into the dark side and will eventually kill Palpatine since he killed Snoke. In this scenario, Palpatine just transfers himself into Kylo like he wanted to do with Luke in ROTJ. Palpatine wins.

The alternate plan was the other route: Rey kills Kylo instead. If she did this, she would’ve fallen to the dark side, gone to kill Palpatine to take the throne, and he would’ve transferred into her. Palpatine wins.

However, he didn’t anticipate Leia and Rey helping Ben turn back to the light side, hence why he tells Pryde “The princess of Alderaan has disrupted my plan”. So he has a new plan! Goad Rey into killing him anyway just like he tried with Luke in ROTJ, who was protected/prevented from doing so by Vader.

However, she resists, Ben joins her, so new plan again! He decides to just sap their life Force and kill them. We don’t really know what this was, although it seems to be based on the original Duel of the Fates script in which Tor Valum teaches Kylo how to sap the living Force energy from plants, so maybe he expected to prolong his life with this. But surprise! They’re a dyad, and this power can not only fully rejuvenate him, but amp him up to the most powerful he’s ever been. Final new plan! Sap the dyad energy and kill them both.

I fully understand why people are frustrated with Palpatine in this movie, but I think it’s great how convoluted it is lmao. I think it fits his character perfectly and is very in-line with his numerous convoluted plans in the prequels.

Also the fact that Rey only exists because Palpatine and the Sith Eternal let Palpatine’s non-Force-sensitive clone have a natural-born child in the hopes that they would be Force-sensitive and a worthy host for Palpatine’s spirit unlike the original non-Force-sensitive clone.

DZ-330 said:

List of space/ships shots that could hopefully be made by someone with WAY more skills than me:

• Space shot of Ochi’s ship approaching Kimji
• Shot of Ren’s TIE approaching Endor
• Shot of Rey in Ren’s TIE leaving Endor
• Shot of Rey in Ren’s TIE approaching Anch-To
• Rey taking Luke’s X-Wing and leaving Anch-To in space
• A tease of Vader’s TIE leaving Endor
• The Falcon in space approaching Tatooine

I like all of these except for the TIE approaching Endor, I think it’s important to preserve the “surprise” when Kylo stops the Wayfinder on the throne room floor and it’s revealed that he’s there that way.

How would I go about doing that? Is ebsynth a software?

So I decided to try just pulling a still photo from the one YouTube video and then use that. It’s still just a still image and clearly from the one ROTS scene, but he’s actually smiling now and it looks more natural IMO. I’ll definitely still try to tweak it with improvements but otherwise, I’m pretty happy with how this has come out for just being a still image from ROTS haha

https://vimeo.com/513915661

For comparison, the original edit I did with a ROTS promo photo:

https://vimeo.com/494488296

I agree, I don’t have any specific ideas but I’d love to see more establishing shots

AFAIK Ben’s death is still in this edit. Canon is kinda vague on whether he became a Force ghost, or his soul literally joined with Rey’s, or whether he’s somewhere waiting to be rescued… 😉 but I believe this edit just assumes he became one

CaptainFaraday said:

Yours doesn’t seem to link to a video, at least for me - it links to the vimeo login page instead.

The other one prompts me for a password, which I don’t know.

Whoops! Just fixed it, but here it is again:

https://vimeo.com/459982104

and the password for the other one is just fanedit

I have! It’s a bit rough since I’m new to editing but here it is:

https://vimeo.com/459982104

I think it fits much better as a climatic score, it’s an amazing track, and gets rid of ANOTHER unfitting misuse of the Force theme.

And over in the TROS ideas thread, amobex recently made an edit of the music over the reylo scene:

https://vimeo.com/512376889 password: fanedit

Plus said he’s interested in working on a smoother version of what I tried 😃

The entire Skywalker Force ghost family then? If everyone became one then we’d be working with Ben, Leia, Luke, Han, Anakin, Padmé, Shmi, and then all of her ancestors lol.

But yeah for me it’s a mix of wanting to see Anakin as much as possible while also just having the entire Skywalker (Force ghost) family. I like adding in Ben at the end, but it feels weird to me to only add Ben and not Anakin too.

I agree that the second and third versions look very off-putting and clearly from that portion of the movie. The first one looks better in my eyes as he’s more proportionate and higher resolution, plus it’s not actually from ROTS since it’s a promo photo of him in the Tantive IV for some reason. But of course, it’s just a still photo which looks a bit odd next to the others, plus he’s in dark robes that don’t match the other three and aren’t consistent with his ghost at the end of ROTJ or behind Rey on Exegol.

I wasn’t really trying to start a debate on whether or not he should’ve been included since I think we’ve been through that cycle a few times haha, I’m just looking for help on my TROS edit from anyone else capable or also interested in this ending.

Is anyone else interested in trying to put Anakin’s Force ghost into the final Tatooine scene so it’s actually the entire Skywalker family adopting her? Jonh originally said he was planning on adding Anakin in after Ben for an alternate version but then later decided not to, so I tried to make my own at that point and it looked off since I don’t know how to do anything beyond adding in a translucent photo to fade and stuff. This was the only serviceable photo I found so I photoshopped the lightsaber off his belt and ended up with this:

https://vimeo.com/494488296

And then later, someone named “Star Wars and company” commented on my Vimeo post and emailed me photos I think he made? which were somewhat low resolution and disproportionate:

https://vimeo.com/497307557

https://vimeo.com/513511782

He recently emailed me again with a different version which is the second video, but it looks even more off-putting. The only other version I’ve ever seen someone else do is this, which has a good-looking (although short lol) Anakin but an odd-looking Ben:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlnRy7g--tU

Would anyone be able to help add Anakin into jonh’s work? It seems to be a fairly difficult task and with my limited editing ability, I don’t think I can do any more than I could in my first clip, which I’ll probably use for my TROS edit if nothing else comes to fruition.

Hal 9000 said:

Hmm, without having seen the scene I imagine it’d be better to have it more or less consistent. No other saber has matched the user’s mood in such a way.

Agreed, I’d rather see it stay consistent