In the novelization. Wookieepedia has some good info on him:
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Rey's_father
The movie was unclear about this and the book just further complicated things IMO. I hope they can patch this up with future content
Well, it’s still truncated because otherwise there’s need to be some serious audio work for the music and foley.
And I’ll try moving up the “for Skywalker” cries to right as Poe finished his sentence.
Ah, I didn’t even realize it isn’t the full thing. Still nice to see a smoother, longer shot that includes the three Resistance ships.
The overall sync is unaffected, but I removed the Poe interior shot and allowed this extended shot to run for the duration of what was cut before meeting back up with Wedge at the point where that shot begins.
+1 to cutting the Poe shot out. It’s nice to see the extended shot in full
I feel like the trailer music would work a lot better during Rey and Palpatine’s tug of war.
“I am all the jedi!”
BOOM music
Until Palps is killed and the music goes back to the film.
I messed around with this idea, but found the force theme to be more fitting (especially in jonh’s incredible force ghost edit) for that scene whereas I think the trailer music is very fitting for the following scene.
For those who were interested, I’ve worked for a while on continuing to add the final TROS trailer’s music into the movie:
It’s still a bit rough when the music goes in and out since I can’t find a way to gradually increase or decrease it, so I have to cut the ends into numerous quarter-second chunks that quickly increase or decrease in volume, leaving the audio somewhat clippy/chunky.
However, the music placement and transitions are improved and I made custom sound effects to replace the original rocks crumbling and explosions (I had to keep the blaster fire for a second though which sounds slightly odd with a pinch of the original music peaking through… I might just cut this part out). I’ll still try to improve it any way I can but this is good enough for me to add in 😃
I’m not going to put the trailer music into the movie.
Sorry if I gave the wrong idea, I know you’ve said that- I just wanted to share it to the other people in the thread who wanted this version since I didn’t know how else to give it to them.
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic but I know a few others here were interested. I’ve worked for awhile on continuing to add the final TROS trailer’s music into the movie:
It’s still a bit rough when the music goes in and out since I can’t find a way to gradually increase or decrease it, so I have to cut the ends into numerous quarter-second chunks that quickly increase or decrease in volume, leaving the audio somewhat clippy/chunky.
However, the music placement and transitions are improved and I made custom sound effects to replace the original rocks crumbling and explosions (I had to keep the blaster fire for a second though which sounds slightly odd with a pinch of the original music peaking through… I might just cut this part out). I’ll still try to improve it anyway I can but this is good enough for me now to add as audio on my own into the final edit when it’s complete 😃
Right, I can’t really break that down into a logical reason other than that it just feels wrong to me.
I get where you’re coming from, I just don’t like the force theme as it is there and I love this piece of music - feels fitting in my eyes. Is there somewhere on the forum to request an edit/help with one?
For a while, I’ve been trying to think of places in the movie that the incredible music from the final TROS trailer could go in since it wasn’t used in the film. You’ll have to excuse my poor editing skills, but I made a rough mock-up placing it immediately after Palpatine dies. I actually think it fits pretty well + I really wanted to replace the music there with something else since it’s a boring repeat of the overused Force theme again. The only issue I see is I’m not sure where to exactly end it. The music actually “fades” off in a decent area because the epic destruction montage comes to a halt when Rose tells Poe that Finn is still on the ship, but my editing for it is very awkward.
OMG, I love it. This fits perfectly! Please include that in any way
+1 😎👍
Glad to see more support but I don’t have the editing skills to make a legit one :S
^ Cool as hell. I REALLLYYYYY hope the rumors are true that we’ll see him visit Exegol
I would much rather have the entire shot with a voiceover from Poe in the middle. The way he’s spliced into that shot in the original movie is poorly done
Trailer music does not go in the movies. We’ve be over this extensively on RoS Ascendant’s thread.
But I understand your desire to use it. It’s epic, but at the end of the day it just doesn’t match Williams’ style, making it feel totally out of place.
Do you happen to know about when it was? I always try to see if there’s discussion for an idea before I post it but it’s difficult to search for anything on this website.
And while I’d love it if someone could help do it better, I might have to just refine my rough edit and deal with it since I like the music there so much lol
+1, that scene flows nicely
Burbin said:
And like I said I like the small Wedge cameo paired up with all the other ship cameos and all the other voice comm interactions. I hope it can be worked back in.
Agreed! The battle was severely lacking in cameos so I’d hate to see one get cut out 😕
Knight of Kalee said:
How about sneaking in a “This is the way?” when those Mandalorian spaceships fly by?
It would be cool if someone said “For Mandalore!”, especially placed right when the Mandalorian ships fly by.
For a while, I’ve been trying to think of places in the movie that the incredible music from the final TROS trailer could go in since it wasn’t used in the film. You’ll have to excuse my poor editing skills, but I made a rough mock-up placing it immediately after Palpatine dies. I actually think it fits pretty well + I really wanted to replace the music there with something else since it’s a boring repeat of the overused Force theme again. The only issue I see is I’m not sure where to exactly end it. The music actually “fades” off in a decent area because the epic destruction montage comes to a halt when Rose tells Poe that Finn is still on the ship, but my editing for it is very awkward.
If anyone who’s more skilled than me wants to take a shot at doing this I’d love to see it!
For a while, I’ve been trying to think of places in the movie that the incredible music from the final TROS trailer could go in since it wasn’t used in the film. You’ll have to excuse my poor editing skills, but I made a rough mock-up placing it immediately after Palpatine dies. I actually think it fits pretty well + I really wanted to replace the music there with something else since it’s a boring repeat of the overused Force theme again. The only issue I see is I’m not sure where to exactly end it. The music actually “fades” off in a decent area because the epic destruction montage comes to a halt when Rose tells Poe that Finn is still on the ship, but my editing for it is very awkward.
Not a fan of Lando’s introduction at all, but I don’t think it’s possible to cut it out. Too much exposition and setup
Llirael Moroth said:
And there is no chance to have this cute look from Poe to Finn instead of Zori? 😃
+1, so much chemistry!
EDIT: If anyone is interested, this thread does a lot of FinnPoe editing. An edit of the scene you mentioned is a bit rough but I plan on doing something similar alongside cutting out most of Zorii (especially her flirting with Poe)
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Sequel-Trilogy-Special-Edition-StormPilot-v1-Released/id/75425
Absolutely nothing in the movie implies Palpatine’s son is a clone. I’d say the fact he doesn’t look like him should count as precluding it.
That’s a good find, but we’d probably need more audio to go with it for the ships flying by. Worth a shot, for sure! And we could include a few more people’s audio submissions. Anyone able to remove that watermark?
I gave a go at doing sound for the shot, only issue is the shot isn’t in the best quality ever but it should be serviceable. also I’m pretty new to sound stuff, i did it in mind that there would be more radio chatter on top of it
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EIIUPBtBVwgtNvsb3JAnaPsChVNY_dAf/view?usp=sharing
I dunno how to remove the watermark either lol.
Sounds good to me!
If anyone else is a fan of Resistance, I just found this twitter thread that shows where the Blue Ace, Fireball, and Yeager’s ship are in that extended shot!
https://twitter.com/mel_miniatures/status/1226096735371616256
Hal 9000 said:
That’s a good find, but we’d probably need more audio to go with it for the ships flying by. Worth a shot, for sure! And we could include a few more people’s audio submissions. Anyone able to remove that watermark?
I wasn’t involved yet during the original audio submissions so I’d love to be able to contribute one for the extended shot! 😄
Has this been brought up?
At 0:16 there is a cut extended shot of ships flying when Lando’s fleet arrives. So good! The place I just found it says it even has the Fireball (!!!) but I can’t find it. This shot in the movie is about 2 seconds long with a clip of Poe saying “Hit those underbelly cannons, every one we knock out is a world saved”. Given that the extended clip here is about 10 seconds long and the Poe clip is poorly/weirdly spliced into the shot in the original movie, I figure the audio of him saying it could just separated and then placed over the extended shot 😃
Hey jonh! Can I be extra picky? last Ben ghost image is amazing, I just think the color level on Ben’s cloak need to be adjusted very slightly to match the bluer whites of Luke and Leia. Also comparing the sizes again, I think he still might be a tiny bit too big, at least if you compare the size of his head to Mark’s. I understand if you would rather not but I think its so super close, and we can match the colors and the size it will be seamless.
…Also I think the left most side of his sleeve is a bit too wide but that doesnt really need to be changed.
You are awesome, I think its great work you’ve been doing here.
ALSO hey good to see ya again Poppasketti! Welcome back.
FWIW, I had an issue with the size too until I googled “Adam Driver next to Carrie Fisher” and then “Adam Driver next to Mark Hamill” and realized Ben is actually smaller than he would be. Adam Driver is massive lol. I don’t think it’s an issue anymore since I think he’d look weird smaller but also awkward any taller
That’s fair. Do you happen to know about when that discussion was? I can’t find it