^ Rey’s Theme is probably my single favorite Star Wars track
So in total we have you, kewlfish, and Luka working on the crackling saber?
Yeah, Obi-Wan intentionally misled Luke, and it’s addressed.
TRoS presents Luke as spending years searching for Exegol and the Wayfinders. It doesn’t frame it as the Force Ghosts lied to him about where they were, it doesn’t frame it as anything other than a man looked everywhere and asked everyone… except the one person who knew, who he uniquely could communicate with.
It becomes a plot hole because we’re told a character exerted himself, almost desperately, to find something without trying the most basic thing that would also have worked. Like, did Luke get bitter with his father’s redeemed spirit?
Maybe, if it’s not a plot hole, we can at least agree it’s an unnecessarily stupid plot contrivance setting up the videogame-style trading sequence of multiple MacGuffins that we have instead of a story.
Do we have any evidence that Anakin manifested as a force ghost ever again after Endor? Yes we hear his voice on Exegol but that could literally be the first time he’s made contact in that way since ROTJ.
We kind of do! From the (wonderful) reference book “The Secrets of the Jedi”. You can see the page I’m referring to here:
The specific part I’m talking about reads: “Their spirits guided me for many years but vanished when I shut myself off from the Force.” So technically no direct confirmation that Anakin physically manifested again, but it feels heavily implied to me.
I’ll throw in my attempt to put the TROS trailer music into the scene where the Final Order fleet is destroyed. It’s pretty rough but I’m new to video editing so I’m planning on working on it again. The biggest issue is trying to make it fade out? I couldn’t figure out how to so I made a bunch of cuts and slightly lowered each’s volume which made it kinda choppy as it fades.
But I think it’s an amazing piece of music that was sadly unused in the film, and the original scene’s music didn’t work at all. The movie already overuses the Force theme, and man it does not fit well for this scene, nor does it have any meaning for it.
Fair point. Honestly, I just don’t worry about Force ghost knowledge, they create so many technical plot holes lol. I think you just have to accept them as conduits of the Force that are used to guide light side users as the Force wills it
FWIW the current ongoing Vader comic is addressing this issue right now, with Vader obtaining his Wayfinder and heading to Exegol. How exactly is it patching up this hole? We don’t know yet, but that’s what the current arc is focused on
This sounds very similar to what I’m planning on doing with TROS- being as conservative as possible, as well as adhering to canon. I’m interested in how yours turns out
Thanks! I’ll DM him
Just learned that Christopher Sean (the voice actor for Kaz in Resistance) has a Cameo account where you can pay $30 for him to record any video/message. Given that his ship and a few others from the show were created for TROS but unused and the novelization included him along with a line of dialogue, would anyone be interested in group-funding him to record the line for the edit? Inferno Squad was included so I figure there will also be interest in this. The novelization goes:
“Zay Versio with Inferno Squad, standing by. Look at all these ships!”
“Fireball, here. Hi everyone!”
“Cut the chatter, Kaz,” a deep voice responded.
Given how short the line is I’m not sure if enough people would be interested in chipping in a bit so maybe the line could also be spliced together from show dialogue? Along with Yeager’s line in response.
Just want to see Resistance included 😃
Those lines actually were recorded, using impersonators. They were just buried deep in the audio mix to avoid standing out from the rest of the fleet dialogue.
Never got an answer to this back in August- are the impersonator Resistance voice lines and Inferno Squad voice lines available to use? I’d like to make the Resistance one audible in my version, as well as feature the Infero Squad one more prominently.
Had that exact same idea for the force world clip last night, I’m sure someone could do it better but it would definitely be cool to see something like this.
I actually really like this, good work!
And I thought it was pretty clear in the original film that Leia used Force projection to send the vision of Kylo’s memory of Han to him- she has Han’s medal in her hand when she does it, and then she dies from the effort. Plus Maz says that “to reach her son now will take all the strength she has left”.
Had this interesting idea for a ghost Luke moment/dialogue at Leia’s death, new footage courtesy of Jonh
Jonh’s edit download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zS27aRrvwzSQr5ph1i-WF6__QZqlWg9k/view?usp=sharing
This is pretty cool. Wish the saga would’ve done more with Force ghosts
Wow that looks exactly like I’d pictured in my head, great work!
That’s what I linked? I meant trying to do something like that with jonh’s version of adding in Ben.
So I spent a couple of hours learning more about iMovie through YouTube tutorials and eventually was able to make this:
It’s pretty bad, but I think it gives a good idea of what I’m trying to do.
Would anyone be able to add Anakin to this amazing work by jonh? Something like this:
With Ben to the left of Luke & Leia and Anakin on the right. I asked jonh about it back in September and he said he would add Anakin eventually, but then recently he said in the TROS: Ascendant thread that he didn’t want to do it anymore.
Would anyone else be able to do this? I wish I could but I don’t know how to, and I’d love to see the Skywalker saga end on the entire family together, “adopting” Rey to carry on their name and legacy.
Could I get a link please? Thank you!
Looks great, Luka!
So I’m a bit unclear on how the edit works. Will it be able to be applied to the version with Leia’s blue saber?
That’s one of the things I like about Rey: while Luke was slow on the uptake to believe in the Force, Rey was instantly ready to learn, and the reason that she was was because of Luke’s legend.
Yeah it feels like a huge stretch to me to say that she shouldn’t understand Shryiiwook, but I also don’t she her as a “Mary Sue” in any way, especially since most reasons that people say she is would apply to Anakin or Luke as well.
Once it’s back up someone should just download it ASAP
The cool thing about the Tantive IV shot is that it’s canon as per the novelization. And I agree- the initial explosion looks great, but it’s slightly off when it starts turning to smoke. I’d still use it though
Yeah it would just be a more connective extended version. Don’t get me wrong, I still love jonh’s work 😃
And are there even any good shots of Ahsoka that could be used? She didn’t have a ton of screentime. Sadly if that were to happen, we might have for the actual Ahsoka show where I’m sure there’d be some good stuff to work with.
That was… interesting.
I appreciate the effort to include the amazing trailer music (you can see my attempt to put it in a different scene here: https://vimeo.com/459982104), but it didn’t fit well IMO and started to become messy with the constant music changes.
The Tantive IV explosion was great! I’d love to see that included in Hal’s edit.
The Force ghosts are a mixed bag. I thought they looked a bit rough (especially Yoda and Anakin who looked like PS3 characters lol) and moved unnaturally. However, I thought the inclusion of Qui-Gon was cool (he’s canonically able to appear as a physical ghost by the time of ANH according to the "From A Certain Point of View book) and if we ever get confirmation that Ahsoka died before TROS and became a Force ghost, I’d love to see her and Qui-Gon added to jonh’s version.
Why does Luke look scared and yell at Rey when she destroys Palpatine? And the Yoda line at 3:02 was hilarious and not in a good way. What even was that? Lmao
It’s a cool alternate version of jonh’s edit and I’d like to see the Tantive IV explosion used, but ultimately I think jonh’s version is still the best by far and an update with Ahsoka and Qui-Gon down the line would be really cool.
I would agree that it’s too subtle for the most part, and from 0:56 and onward it appears that there’s no change.
As for Leia’s saber, I would say work with the default blue version so your work can stand alone as its own edit for others to use in their fan-edits, although it would be great for everyone involved if you were able to do both! 😃
Wasn’t that one guy’s version of the Force ghost scene supposed to premiere today? He hasn’t posted anything as far as I can tell
I think it works visually- Rey is struggling to overcome her dark lineage in this movie, and it lines up with her doing stuff like accidentally using Force lightning or striking a fatal blow to Kylo. Plus it’s great when Ben takes the saber because it represents how he’s finally able to use the Skywalker saber he’s always desired and honor the light side of his family lineage, but he also can’t ignore the sins of his past.