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Who is Rey?
I don’t know. Sounds like some guy’s name?
Ok Bosk, now who is on crack?
Rey? Is that the new Sith?
His interrogation technique is Force based as well. Something Vader apparently never tried on Leia.
If Snoke is as ancient as I suspect, he may have been teaching some long forgotten knowledge to Ren.
How to bring folk back from the dead…
People seem to forget lucas only directed ANH and the shitty prequels.
Still, he was the primary author behind the other two.
“Story by:…” and special effects are what he was good at (and darn good at). He should have stuck to those and let other people write the script, direct, etc.
Yes he is behind some brilliant fantasy/adventure films, Indiana Jones, labyrinth, the dark crystal, dare I say willow. Lucas is a legend whatever people think with regards to the non release of the theatrical version of the OT. He Is star wars whether he sold it or not it will forever be his baby. Hat off to the man regardless to the decline and his epic fuck up that is the prequels. But his forte was being an executive producer and not a director. Fair play to him for letting his teacher direct Empire.
Happy new year from the UK
For once I agree with Bosk. Some people shouldn’t watch it again, in fact they probably shouldn’t have watched it the first time.
I concur
I’m going to say that this is probably half of why I didn’t enjoy TFA:
I didn’t find the movie really absorbing. I spent too much time thinking about it while in the theatre. Whether this is TFA’s fault, or my own, or the fact that the movie wasn’t focused properly on the screen, or some combination thereof, I’m not sure. I think I would have enjoyed the film more had I not been analyzing it while watching it, simply because I wouldn’t have noticed the flaws so much.
I think you’d enjoy it a lot more if you saw it again.
I don’t
Let’s be real, Lucas also directed ROTJ.
Are you on crack?
Are you a fan of Star Wars?
I’m a fan of the OUT, that is all
Mixed feelings for TFA. Like paying a visit to old elementary school classrooms, where you remembered things to be different than they actually are when you come back as an adult. There were more things I didn’t like, than the ones I liked; I think this film was a missed oportunity to actually having done something different. But in the end it’s star wars, and better this than nothing.
I find it funny how people will complain that the film didn’t do anything different, and then go on to complain about the things that JJ did that were actually different.
Well, funny or not, that’s exactly how I felt after watching the movie. In my opinion they changed things that shouldn’t have been changed (visual code, music approach, camera style, composition of the frames, etc) while got needlessly attached to other things that could have been changed (like the designs) or should have been different (like the plot).
To me it’s not a generic versus between innovation and preservation, but more of a disagreement on where did this movie innovate, where it did not, and where and what did it preservate or not.
You missed regurgitate
Let’s be real, Lucas also directed ROTJ.
Are you on crack?
It’s commonly believed Lucas backseat directed much of the film, due to Richard Marquand’s shortcomings handling such a large cpmplex FX laden production. IIRC, Lucas directing some second unit sequences is documented. He was definitely on the set much more than he was on Empire.
He executively produced a number of films which I assume he had a lot of input into but he is not credited as the director for them either
The Wizard of Oz had five directors, but only one got screen credit. Gone With The Wind had three. And then there’s Poltergeist…
There must be a valid reason why only one person ever receives the acreditation, perhaps they input more than the others? One would assume.
Let’s be real, Lucas also directed ROTJ.
Are you on crack?
It’s commonly believed Lucas backseat directed much of the film, due to Richard Marquand’s shortcomings handling such a large cpmplex FX laden production. IIRC, Lucas directing some second unit sequences is documented. He was definitely on the set much more than he was on Empire.
He executively produced a number of films which I assume he had a lot of input into but he is not credited as the director for them either
Let’s be real, Lucas also directed ROTJ.
Are you on crack?
SilverWook said:
I think seller’s remorse is kicking in.And not every space movie that came out in Star Wars’ wake was a bomb either.
Seller’s remorse for sure, coupled with the restored & non-Lucas direction being hugely popular, breaking records (and in record time), and a public who is now much more vocal about how terrible the prequels were. He’s also a megalomaniac who can no longer exercise his omnipotence. The casual and/or non-nerd fans of Star Wars are starting to see a side of him that we’ve known about for many years.
You’re also correct on his being off about space movies failing after Star Wars. Alien was an enormous success and launched a franchise. I’d also bet Star Wars had a great deal to do with the rebirth of the Star Trek franchise, for which his company handled the special effects by the way.
He’s really showing how petty we’ve always know him to be. I guess his next move will be a sequel to his middle finger to the fans t-shirt - “Han Shot First” …“I Shot A Star Wars Film First”.
People seem to forget lucas only directed ANH and the shitty prequels.
I should just disappear quietly. No one needs to hear from me.
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For someone who has been here less than a month, you sure seem to think you know how this place works.
I don’t actually care.
Probably not, Frink is intellectually superior.
Sarcasm I hope, the film has bigger holes in it than leia ignoring chewie, I think the entire script is awful.
When I say he’s “emo”, I’m joking, of course 😄
I agree he’s been fleshed out. But what’s his purpose in the movie? If he’s a villain, does he work as a villain?
Sure, Luke was a bit cocky in ANH, but his attitude didn’t affect his actions, and so his character: he’s a brave one, he does save the princess, he “does care”, we’re with him when he blows up the Death Star, he’s the hero.
Ren, on the other hand, as a villain, takes off his mask too early, and we get to know he’s just a boy. He’s constantly mocked by our heroes, he’s afraid, can’t take control of the situation and, finally, gets defeated. Is he a true villain, is he actually a threat to the heroes? 😄 If you ask me, no, and this affected the whole movie, especially its second part.We’re not supposed to take Kylo Ren seriously because like Luke he has yet to finish his training. Once he does there’s no telling how stronger he will become. Also seeing as how he has fully given himself to the dark side the worrisome traits he has exhibited are going to be exponentially worse. I see Kylo Ren as an idea that has yet to be fully realized.
Bearing in mind the next film will also be a kiddy film so Ren won’t be going that bad, not unless they rate it higher!
I should just disappear quietly. No one needs to hear from me.
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Why would anyone go to see a film wanting to hate it? A good film is a good film. Tfa is not a good film. At least lucas has commented, I think he was polite saying it’s a retro film rather than a blatant rip off!
Didn’t he say that he really liked it and it was the film that he should have made a couple of weeks ago?
I hope not…even the pt films were functional as films
Why would anyone go to see a film wanting to hate it? A good film is a good film. Tfa is not a good film. At least lucas has commented, I think he was polite saying it’s a retro film rather than a blatant rip off!
On Golden Pond? I’d rather watch Attack of the Clones again.
Philistine! On Golden Pond is a masterpiece! No wonder you rate tfa so highly!
I ask you this, though: has there been a single sci-fi/fantasy movie in the past fifteen years or so that featured a major character that wasn’t an actor in a costume that achieved this?
Yes, the CGI T-Rex in Jurassic Park 1 looked pretty real. The T-1000 in Terminator 2 looked great as well, and the effect hasn’t really aged that much either.
Snoke looks like he was designed purely as a children’s toy. SW is all about merchandising, Disney cares much more about the billions in toy sales that they’ll be making over the next two years than the 1 billion or whatever from the box office.
The CGI lion in The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe was pretty good and had a minute budget in comparison. I didn’t have a problem with Snoke as we only saw a hologram (which is CGI anyway), I think it was the least of this film’s problems, think script!
Now that I have complained about Craggy Island, I have to really compliment the film about on-board stardestroyer scenes. The dimmed blushing lighting… great feel, perfect. My favourite part of the film.
Craggy Island, I thought it was more Countrywise, thought Luke and Rey were gong for a lovely, scenic walk.
Very enjoyable but kinda soulless.
I must admit that while PT being annoying, it has more soul.
I would say the opposite. TFA is mindless drivel, but it does have some spirit.
I certainly wont be adding it to my all time greats collection!
There goes my idea of thinking that you might frame the BD and put it on your wall. 😃
I wont be purchasing, already wasted enough on the cinema just to clarify what I saw was real.
So the rumor that you might encrust the disc in gold plating is false?
It is indeed, may make a good cat deterrent in the garden though.
Maybe he will freeze it in carbonite and hang it up on his wall of shame.
I’ll throw it at Sarlacc!
Are you sure you wouldn’t want to encrust it in platinum with rare jewels?
I’d like to encrust it in a yuletide log
Very enjoyable but kinda soulless.
I must admit that while PT being annoying, it has more soul.
I would say the opposite. TFA is mindless drivel, but it does have some spirit.
I certainly wont be adding it to my all time greats collection!
There goes my idea of thinking that you might frame the BD and put it on your wall. 😃
I wont be purchasing, already wasted enough on the cinema just to clarify what I saw was real.
So the rumor that you might encrust the disc in gold plating is false?
It is indeed, may make a good cat deterrent in the garden though.
Maybe he will freeze it in carbonite and hang it up on his wall of shame.
I’ll throw it at Sarlacc!
Very enjoyable but kinda soulless.
I must admit that while PT being annoying, it has more soul.
I would say the opposite. TFA is mindless drivel, but it does have some spirit.
I certainly wont be adding it to my all time greats collection!
There goes my idea of thinking that you might frame the BD and put it on your wall. 😃
I wont be purchasing, already wasted enough on the cinema just to clarify what I saw was real.
So the rumor that you might encrust the disc in gold plating is false?
It is indeed, may make a good cat deterrent in the garden though.
Very enjoyable but kinda soulless.
I must admit that while PT being annoying, it has more soul.
I would say the opposite. TFA is mindless drivel, but it does have some spirit.
I certainly wont be adding it to my all time greats collection!
There goes my idea of thinking that you might frame the BD and put it on your wall. 😃
I wont be purchasing, already wasted enough on the cinema just to clarify what I saw was real.