Booshman

Flicking between those screenshots is a great way to replicate the effect i see when I put on and take off my glasses. First one looks like it has a layer of Vaseline over it compared to the "mix". Second shot looks great

Got Terminator down now, and 2 is on the way. The presentation is fantastic, and the menu is really slick. Can't wait to sit down and watch these 2.

What program/s was the BD authored in?

Great, been eagerly awaiting this one!

Booshman said:

If anyone has a spare invite to blu torrents please give me a shout, I would really appreciate it!

 Thanks to Vinnie, sorted now.

If anyone has a spare invite to blu torrents please give me a shout, I would really appreciate it!

Space Kaijuu said:

All the content has been compiled and sent off to be converted to a BD disc.  The BD authoring may take a while.

 Thanks for the update, still looking forward to this.

Any word on this one?

Are any of these going to be made available?

I've re-authored the 2 disc version of the Supermsn II RIC into a single disc dual layer release. So no more need to change discs duriing the movie. The original menus are intact. It's on the spleen now.

Superman II: Theatrical Cut Redux, sounds a bit similar to  Superman II : The Richard Donner Cut Redux, don't you think?

Not that I have any rights to the Redux label, since it's been used on many projects, but I do think there is enough of a level of association where Superman 2 is concerned to cause confusion.

Hey Jimbo, nice one for doing this, it's been something I've hoped would be tackled by a fan for a while.

Definitely down for version 2 whein it's ready.

Just uploaded Superman III Extended  TV version to the spleen. It's NTSC, all on one dual layer disc.

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Jetrell Fo said:

I noticed while watching the Superman IV LD rip that there was a brief view of the LD volume levels being viewed, then it disappeared, it would need to be removed if it were to be a source for an edit.  Other than that, it was a decent cap @ only 4GB size.

Thanks for sharing.  It was a real treat.

:) 

 Glad you enjoyed it, you're welcome.

skyjedi2005 said:

Is the extended cut any better though the original was one of the worst films i have ever seen especially in terms of cheesy bad acting and terrible effects.

Along with Star Trek V it has to have some of the worst effects of the later 1980's.

 The extended cut is only 3 minutes longer, with 2 added sequences during the Nuclear Man fight. It doesn't improve the film much, but if it's the way you are used to seeing the film it at least makes it feel complete again. The score is also really good and it continues without interruption with these 2 scenes put back in.

rockin said:

For the audio, I was wondering if there were any differences between the LD, DVD and Blu-ray? 

 I think they are all the same mix. They are all stereo. The bluray is DTS-HD-MA, so the bitrate it much higher than the DVD version.

rockin said:

Hi everyone, hope you all had a nice Christmas.

For the record mine is a PAL laserdisc, so yeah... it is cropped unfortunately.

Booshman has kindly provided me with the missing scenes which I needed, so the only thing I can think of is try and upscale them to fit the blu-ray. However I am more inclined to try and either downscale the blu-ray to 480p so the difference isn't as jarring. But as already noted, the DVD has a colour timing closer to the LD footage... so it's really finding the right balance. I don't know which people would prefer.

I will post some screenshots of my attempt at colour-correcting the blu-ray at some point, which has for the most part, been desaturating it slightly, and to remove some of the teal.

 I think if you're going to downscale the bluray, you might as well use the DVD as the source. It looks a lot nicer colour wise and will save you work. I think based off the quality of the rip that the footage will blend better this way too.

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I'll be happy to capture the laserdisc with my X9, upscale the needed scenes to match (as it could be possible) the blu-ray, and use the whole capture as color reference for the blu-ray... rockin, where are you from?

 I've no idea of the method used to capture the LD rip I have. Based from the screen grabs I posted, can you tell how much of an improvement your X9 would make?

JupePeteBob said:

Booshman, would you mind uploading your LD rip to MySpleen?

 Now on the spleen.

Oldfan said:

Was this DVD ever uploaded to usenet?

 Turned out the version I had was of the other Son of Jor-El edit.

JupePeteBob said:

Booshman, would you mind uploading your LD rip to MySpleen?

 I haven't got time right now, but I'll get it on there once the holidays are done with.

Ah, yeah I thought they might be burned into the original image, it's a shame.

I'm pretty sure the only WS version on LD was the Japanese one, and that other version is P&S like the VHS.

_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

Until subtitles are confined to black borders (and it should be the case, as AR is 2.35:1) there will be no problem... could you please post some examples of subs out of black borders?

Having re-checked the subs overlapping the movie image is quite common. I'm not sure if they can be turned off. They are present on the rip I have, but I don't have an LD player to check the actual disc, and I can't read the back of the packaging as it's all in Japanese.

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_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

I'll be happy to capture the laserdisc with my X9, upscale the needed scenes to match (as it could be possible) the blu-ray, and use the whole capture as color reference for the blu-ray... rockin, where are you from?

 Would it be possible to use the LD for colour reference with avisynth? I think the japanese subs are hard coded and sometimes they cover the movie image. Luckily there are no subs that extend out of the black border during the 2 extra scenes. Wouldn't it be better to match bluray to the DVD?

rockin said:

No I don't mean to use the incomplete effects shots (that is what the laserdisc footage is for). The deleted scenes will be for all other shots, since these are higher quality. So I am talking about splicing in the laserdisc footage with the deleted scene footage. To understand what I am referring to you need to see how it is done in the Quest For Coherence.

I just found my copy of QFC. I having looked at the tornado scene, I think it would be better to just use the LD footage. The DVD footage and has a tonne of dirt and looks pretty bad. If you were going for a full restoration to remove the dirt, then yeah, use the DVD, but to use straight from the source the LD will provide a cleaner image.

On a side note, the dirt on the deleted scenes from the DVD looks artificial to me. It's weird, but it looks like it was added intentionally.

Ah OK I know what you mean.

The deleted scenes on the DVD/ Bluray have incomplete effects which make them unusable. Don't know why they bothered with them in that state when it's clear form the International Cut that those scenes were finished.

I haven't watched QFC in a while as I can't locate my copy, but I think the LD footage was probably taken from the previously released composite version of the International Cut.

Did you get your copy of QFC recently or did you already have it? I tried to find it recently but had no luck.

On the VHS/ LD combo, sounds like a decent idea if it will improve the quality. What other edit has that process been used on?

Personally, as well as a full LD preservation I would like a HD version with the LD (or LD/ VHS fotage spliced in). Since it's only 2 scenes that take up around 4 minutes of footage, I could live with a noticeable change in quality of image.

There was an SD composite version of the international cut done a few years ago, using the LD and DVD.  I think it was released by Blaksvn through the 'Spleen. If you were to go that route I would use the DVD as the source as the colour timing is much better than the DVD and a better match for the LD footage.

I think the worst thing to do would be to try to match the LD to the bluray as the colour timing is way off. Superman's suit is too green by far.

I think a preservation would be a great idea. There have been LD rips available before but a high quality preservation would be great.

I've thought about doing a bluray version with the footage spliced in but getting the colour timing to match and getting the LD footage to look decent enough to be worth including will be difficult. I've been recolouring the bluray on and off, as well as for Superman III, but they aren't finished yet.

Check out the colour difference here: https://plus.google.com/photos/113310799378452361657/albums/5726471774840830513?banner=pwa

If in the process of capturing the LD for a preservation, someone could get me the deleted footage in as high quality as possible, I could put together a bluray composite version. Then you would have all viewing options available.

The extended versions of 1-3 have all been online at one point or another, I've got them. They were only ever broadcast in 4:3, so no widescreen version has ever been seen, other than the few deleted scenes on the DVD's that is.