Bobson Dugnutt

hinventon said:
Then phase 6 could maybe look like this:

3. Blade

Mk_9000 said:

So far I’ve reached out to almost every active editor that has an edit on here to double check if they want a direct link to their fanedit, or to link to PM them, if they don’t want to give control.

You clearly didn’t since my edits are listed there, some unatributed to me.

Rarydem7 said:

Forgive my ignorance, but I remember reading somewhere, maybe it was reddit I can’t remember exactly, that Bobson and Numeral are the same person?

Can confirm I am Bobson Dugnutt

Mocata said:

JediUncut said:

This project is sadly cancelled.

I still don’t know what the project was, but this part was pretty funny.

This guy wanted to do a scene-by-scene recreation of Return of the Jedi, with every scene being remade by a different fan or group of fans, similar to how it was done by the Star Wars Uncut project in 2011.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Uncut

Except that he had no idea how to do anything to get the ball rolling. He was trying to recruit people to do literally everything because it appeared he didn’t know how.

After that, he changed his Youtube with plans to do a similar recreation of the Youtube Geek Week 2013 Interactive Adventure? Whatever the hell that is, anyway that was cancelled too.

Long live Jedi Uncut, we hardly knew ye.

This is going to be released in 4-5 months and you’re looking for people to code a website first?

The user was banned from TSWT Forum for failing to communicate with donors and moderators and failing to release any kind of full preview after 2 years. As far as I know, he is currently working on it privately with no timeline for release.

There is another scan that has been done by desertfox on TSWT, with a full preview being available, which is likely the one on Myspleen you are talking about.

I messaged 44rh1n at the start of August and as far as I can tell, they have only been online once since on the 13th of October. I suppose that they aren’t exactly sharing their work at this current moment.

If another user has a copy of 44rh1n’s work, and is willing to share, I would greatly appreciate it.

CamSMurph said:

I wonder why the editor was banned?

Have a look at his last 3 posts from 6 years ago and it will answer your question

Director said:

Well, it seems you have more questions than I can answer inside a thread,

Why? Is there a character limit or something?

Director said:

I do not wish to use any TN1 scans due to their scans having bad colour that would require me to spend another 5 years.

Another 5 years? I thought you started working on this in “November 2023” as per your current original post.

Arguably, you are wasting your time by working with such a low quality source, being this mysterious scan done in 2012 that no one has ever heard of that looks more like the GOUT.

And yeah, look at those bad colours. Terrible, unusable. Definitely better to use some “unknown scan from 12 years ago in SD” (GOUT) rather than a fresh HD scan.

Yeah I still don’t understand what this project is, nor what the goal is.

There was no wide release of the OT in 1996. The SE was 97.

No one is familiar with any 35mm scan of the SE OT being done in 2012. Certainly not from an anon user on “a Swedish site”. As far as I know, no 35mm SW scans were released until at least 2016 with the SSE.

If a scan was released on a swedish site, then wouldn’t it be from a swedish user, scanning a swedish print of the Stjärnornas Krig Trilogin? All the crawls and credits you show off are in English, not swedish.

You say it was discoloured so you “corrected to look like it was in 1997”, what’s your source on colour reference?

And why is this in 480p? You insist that “the films were 480p in 1997” but clearly a cinema print of a brand new $20 million restoration of the most successful films of all time would not be in standard definition.

Also, why do this in SD too? There are at least a dozen scans of the OT that have been done in the past few years. Why use a “35mm film print from 1996, scanned to digital in 2012” that is apparently only in 480p. Why not use 4K97_IV or any other high quality sources?

I get more questions than answers from this thread.

Off the top of my head;

• the Rebels hid in a giant ice fortress, supposed to be an ancient abandoned castle of some kind
• A lot more of the Hoth sequences focused on the Wampa attacks on the base
• after leaving Hoth, they went to find Han’s stepfather, a head smuggler who sells them out instead of Lando
• Yoda is called Minch Yoda
• Luke trains with the ghosts of Obi-Wan and his father (not Vader) and Minch Yoda on Dagobah
• Vader is not Luke’s father
• In a different draft, Lando was a clone left over from the Clone Wars

These are all half baked memories and I’m unsure how accurate they are

I believe it was shot on a sort of Anamorphic film, making it impossible for there to be any more image than what is shown on the Blu-Ray.

A beta release of v2 is now available for anyone that would like to watch and give feedback. I don’t want to widely release yet, but if you want to sit down and give some critiques and spot any errors in these cuts. They should be 99% done, but I’ve been staring at this for a while and can’t be subjective anymore.

Please shoot me a message if you have 5-ish hours of free time! Not in a row, the edit is still split into 13-parts of course.

I’ve got about 2 more pages of notes, and the first 3 parts to look at, before I’ll rewatch, and hopefully get some previews to look at it.

It’s currently running at 5:09, which is closer to how long my original release was. I’ve been mainly just trimming things to try and condense things and make points more concise. My editing before was very loose and seperate but now there’s a lot of intercutting and weaving of sources that I’m very happy about. .
I’m still keeping a bin of all the little cut bits and bobs, because some of them are interesting things, but they’re really niche and longwinded points that aren’t really juicy meat for a viewer. They’ll be presented on their own as a seperate thing.

This project is probably one of my favourite editing endevours I’ve ever undertaken, and I hope that it can be enjoyed by others.

SpacemanDoug said:

Were you able to restore the infamous whipped cream huffing scene?

Not to plug my own work, but my cut of the film does

https://fanedit.org/scooby-doo-2-monsters-unleashed-coolsonian-edition/

With the Yoda/Qui-Gon scene, you can pull lines from the Clone Wars episode with Liam Neeson as the whole thing is much the same, so there’s not much need for AI, unless you want the lines exactly as scripted.

https://vimeo.com/406776742

But you’ve done a great job with all your created lines, the sandstorm scene especially sounds great!

DVD-BOY said:

I had completely forgotten about this, but I too donated back in 2018.

I haven’t seen schorman in a while either, hope he’s ok.

He’s more active over on TSWT Forums these days anyway.

I hope poita is alright too, hasn’t posted in 5 years.

Maybe I’m blind, but what have you actually done to the films? As far as I can tell, you’ve done some kind of upscale, and then added a fake grain layer, with some new colour correction. If anything, the image looks less detailed and softer now.

Dazman has a good point in his post, comparing that the HDTV image has more fine detail in the image. Everyone looks smooth, soft, like James Camereon’s recent remaster of True Lies.

I’m not sure what the goal of the project is. Calling it Filmized implies it’s trying to look like a 35mm film print, but it’s far too soft with a lot of the finer detail being lost, with the shadows eating up a lot of the frame too, crunching the blacks, and with the colours looking nothing like film. There’s scans for TPM and ROTS that could prove useful if you wanted to try and emulate the look of those using, what I assume are the Blu-Rays you are using. Ep2 and 3 definitely have a lot of sensor noise from the early digital cameras that could be cleaned up, but I feel what you have done is a step too far in making everything waxy.

Shame that there’s no official comment on what happened to this print after this;

schorman13 said:

The film was shipped to a gentleman in LA with connections to Poita. I have not heard from Poita himself for quite a while (I hope all is well). At this point, I wish I could offer more information, but that’s all I can say at the moment.

I kicked in some cash for this back in the day and I know a lot of other people did. Would be nice to get some closure.

I’ve picked this back up and am slowly working through it.

​I have locked part 9-13, and massively overhauled everything. A lot of technical tweaks, balancing, replacing sub-par video sources, as much as I could. I want to make this definitve, even if it kills me. I’ve become less precious about little bits of material, so many little pieces have been cut for better pacing and better flow.

I’m working backward, and have Part 1-8 to finalise, rewatch again, and then finally put this to bed. This is probably the biggest editing project I’ve ever worked on, even if it’s not the most popular, but I’m very proud of it.

Is this just a list of deleted scenes you wanna see released? Kind of reads like that, no idea what Arrow or Shout have to do with it.

BrotherOfSasquatch said:

Hey there! So after watching “The Phantom Menace” yesterday to celebrate its 25th Anniversary, I decided to give this a whirl having it play in the background all day as I did some work.

Anyways, I wanted to say that this was pretty great and I highly commend you for overtaking such a huge project such as this. Because of the wide scope of the entire project, I did feel that how you sectioned off each part of the doc was pretty shaggy but I can’t really hold you against that. One other issue I had as well is that numerous times towards the end, the audio cuts out.

Other than that though… Nicely done!

Glad to hear you enjoyed it! I’m still chipping away at my v2, which is always ongoing because I keep finding clay to throw onto the pottery wheel. I keep rewatching and revising but I hope to have it done in the next few months.

How did it feel “shaggy”? Is it because the sections feel very seperated, rather than being more chronological in it’s approach to production (like part 1 being pre-production, part 2: shooting and production, part 2: post-production, editing and vfx, etc)

FVDnz said:

Awesome, I’ll check this out very soon! The YouTube channel Star Wars Meg recently talked about a deleted scene which could have been inserted for better context when Qui Gon disposed of one of Maul’s probes as in that one scene where he and Anakin were running for their ship without much of a reason, that scene could have been better left in.

Such a wealth of information, these Prequels have… 😃

Yeah that’s pretty much the one deleted scene that everyone adds back in when editing the film. Its so quick and explains why they’re running, it’s shocking why they cut it out.

Managed to get a second-hand copy of the Jedi book, and loving it so far!

One of my favourite events on Jan 8th.

I hope to get a copy of the ESB one eventually, only the hardcover is available in Australia, so I may have to wait for the cheaper paperback at some stage.

So what you’re doing is taking a 35mm scan you found with French audio, synced some English audio to it, and uploading it to Youtube, cut into 3 minute chunks?

timdiggerm said:

Bobson Dugnutt said:

It might take another 20 or 30 years like SW77, but eventually we’ll know more.

Maybe. I don’t expect the level open-ness from Disney ever the way we eventually got with LFL & Rinzler.

Rinzler did actually write and edit an entire Making of TFA book, that was cancelled.

https://www.slashfilm.com/546017/j-w-rinzler-the-making-of-star-wars-the-force-awakens/

He started work even before Abraams was brought on board, and interviewed nearly everyone involved. He compared it to his ROTS book, so it wasn’t going to be as open as the 30-years of hindsight for the OT books, but it was still to be a very comprehensive 368-page epic.

I hope that one day it’ll come out, but with Rinzler’s passing, it seems unlikely.

Mocata said:

Anyway here’s a brief bit of info about that whole ‘extra hour’ thing:
https://www.businessinsider.com/star-wars-force-awakens-unused-footage-2016-4?r=US&IR=T

Of course the guy who worked with all the puppets would want more of his work seen. Everyone who works in production design always does.

Editors Maryann Brandon and Mary Jo Markey have stated that the first pass was 2:30

[Mary Jo Markey said:]

It wasn’t too bad. I think it was about two and a half hours, right Maryann?

[Maryann Brandon said:]

Two and a half. And JJ really wanted it to be two hours.

Lot’s of great info in their Art of the Cut article here;

https://www.provideocoalition.com/art-of-the-cut-with-the-editors-of-star-wars-the-force-awakens/