Bobson Dugnutt

No way that the first cut of ROTS was 4 hours.

The 2nd assembly cut was 2:11:23 without credits. Pretty unlikely that they cut an hour and 50 minutes in one fell swoop.

From The Making of ROTS, pg180

I don’t want to call Matt Wood a liar, but I have to assume that quote is devoid of context, massively exaggerated, and unfortuntely has been parroted by the fanbase at large.

“Yeah. I was actually the first person who saw a cut of Episode III…It was close to 4 hours at least. I was just sitting there and thought ‘wow, I’m the first one!’. Even George hadn’t see the full movie then”

The fourth draft shooting script is only 129 pages. Maybe some compilation of kitchen sink animatics where the animatic and pre-vis guys went wild, added up to 4 hours, there’s no way an assembly of shot footage could add up to that much.

Matt Wood also told Jake Lloyd that the first assembly of Episode I was 6 hours, so I assume Wood must be referring to something else in the post-process because it’s just not possible.

https://youtu.be/MuQWxz5Eqi8?si=yCgaI4rNNAGH_HKR&t=233

What’s the difference between the 2022 4k release, and the 1999 DVD. Surely not much right?

FVDnz said:

Say what you want about AI but I am loving these filler moments. This is Vader reacting to Obi-Wan’s becoming more powerful with the Force moment. Even Palpatine is kinda freaking out about it.

https://youtu.be/2UZeXAipNLY?si=XoziEg8KVVLDCaHy

I’d rather that the film didn’t stop for 8 minutes when it needs to be moving fast during the DS escape, TIE fighter battle, and arriving on Yavin IV. It’s slow and awkward as hell, and also it’s AI and looks modern and crisp. Same issue as SC38 Reimagined. Just sticks out like a sore thumb.

Phase3 said:

Eventually I will upscale the ROTS scene “Changes to the constitution”.

Please do! I’ve had a crack at that scene, but it’s a very inconsistant scene, changing contrast/colour, and quality from shot to shot.

Director said:

To anyone potentially wondering: it is unlikely I will publish a new version during 2026.

Wicketthewarrick said:

im not demanding im asking and i did said that i could do it

why are you posting it randomly in someone else’s thread that’s not about Halloween 4

Wicketthewarrick said:

is there a halloween 4 fanedit that retcons the ending of the movie as a dream?

no

oligregoire said:

Any news on this one?

The theatrical cut is widely available on blu-ray now, with the 2021 Studio Canal release, now making this project largely redundant.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Outsiders-The-Complete-Novel-4K-Blu-ray/297915/#Review

Only thing that makes this of interest otherwise, would be the laserdisc audio.

Lostmoose said:

Is it for sale?
What is the sale price?

11-May-2010, 4:08 PM

I think it’s long gone by now.

Wicketthewarrick said:

i would like a fanedit of the original versions of the original trilogy and i mean the versions that were released on vhs and aired on tv not the theatricall versions that restores deleted scenes and replaced puppet yoda and puppet jabba with AI jabba and AI yoda and i wish lucas did replaced puppet yoda and puppet jabba from rotj with cgi yoda and cgi jabba and made cgi jabba in rotj look like how he looks like in a new hope because it looks weird for younger fans who watches the movies seeing how different yoda looks like in the original trilogy and how diferent jabba looks like in rotj after seeing him in a new hope and of course i want that fanedit to do what adywan´s did with the emperor look in his esb fanedit

Wicketthewarrick said:

I would like a fanedit of the original versions of the original trilogy (and I mean the versions that were released on VHS, and aired on TV, not the theatrical versions) that restores deleted scenes, and replaced puppet Yoda and puppet Jabba, with AI Jabba and AI Yoda.
I wish Lucas did replaced puppet Yoda and puppet Jabba from ROTJ with CGI Yoda and CGI Jabba, and made CGI Jabba in ROTJ look like how he looks like in ANH, because it looks weird for younger fans who watch the movies seeing how different Yoda looks like in the Original Trilogy, and how diferent Jabba looks like in ROTJ, after seeing him in ANH. Of course I want that fanedit to do what Adywan did with the Emperor in his ESB fanedit.

Had to rewrite and decode this mess of a post to even understand what the first half meant.

Basically boils down to;

• Wants an edit using the 80s home video masters of the films (for some reason)
• Wants all deleted scenes back in
• Wants Yoda replaced with CGI or AI (to match what he looks like in the prequels I think?)
• Wants Jabba replaced with CGI or AI (to match what he looks like in the 97SE)

Any takers? Sounds like a simple task clearly.

Wicketthewarrick said:

I want a fanedit of the Star Wars Prequels, etc…

Glad to see you aren’t giving up on your vision.

Sorry but this just looks bad.

I cannot determine your exact goal but it looks like you’ve mixed a VHS Tape with the GOUT and then rendered it with a super low bitrate.

If this makes you happy then sure, but I cannot imagine sitting down and watching this odd mismatch when there’s lovely high-def film scans done of the 97SEs.

Director said:

you can have access to them too if you find the website I downloaded them from. it’s been some time and I never wrote it down so.

Director said:

Bobson Dugnutt said:

Also, I still don’t believe you that these 2012 Swedish 35mm scans from either 1996 or 1997 or 1998, or whatever year you keep moving them to, are real. Why has no one else heard of them before?

because they are fan made and private? why are you so insisting here?

Because as far as I am aware, or anyone else for that matter, fanscans of films didn’t really start appearing online until late 2016, with the Silver Screen Edition. TN-1 started work on them in 2012-ish, but nothing complete got posted until 2016.

If there was scans done in 2012, even of the 97SEs, this site would of known about it, they would of been great sources for Despecialised and other restorations and fanedits.

If they were real scans, and this was a real unique project, you would show them off to everyone and shut everyone up and prove them wrong. Yet you haven’t. Why?

Posted this on FE but may as well double dip.

Of course this isn’t my edit, but after seeing all the comments saying that the first episode should open with Cass and the Ring of Kafrene, before transitioning into the Jyn flashback to 15 BBY, I had a crack at doing just that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdnG3S-kwYk

Dave. said:

Maybe you should give up and start your own project instead of trying to fix blocky pixels or whatever on a scan that already exists. If the Blocky Moments get on your nerves so much, maybe you should just watch the Blu-ray. It’s not a big deal. What’s done is done. Move on.

love that norbit movie lol the waterslide scene is the best! when are we gonna get a good open matte scan of that lmao

Director said:

I am using several sources because the colours in most restorations are incorrect.

Incorrect according to what? What are you using as your colour reference that shows every other release as incorrect?

Also, I still don’t believe you that these 2012 Swedish 35mm scans from either 1996 or 1997 or 1998, or whatever year you keep moving them to, are real. Why has no one else heard of them before?

Director said:

the sources of this preservation are clear, but there were, I am unsure if still are, debates of this.

I used only one source for each movie. The first movie’s source comes from a 1997 print. seemingly the same master was used for 4K97-4, but I am not sure, the scrathes are similar to 4K97-4 but I am not sure is it the same master.

The second movie: I used a print from 1998. It has colours in the other side of the image, but I am once again not sure why.

The third movie: it has rounded corners, I am not sure why, but some debated it was from 4K97, which it is not from.

I assume this was edited and added in the past few days. A wonderful non-answer that contridicts previous statments.
If you aren’t just using some weird edit of 4k97, then you aren’t making it easy for yourself.

Bobson Dugnutt said:

What is the source of this “restoration”? You have previously mentioned that it’s based on some late 90s prints, that were scanned in 2012, with the original files being over 200gb but you insist on working in 480p.

Director said:

to the 2012 scans, they absolutely are real scans. I don’t remember talking about 200GB sizes, but could be wrong. I will look into it if you find a message about that.

Director said:

The files were converted to mp4 with resolution lowered since the original files were almost 200 GB each, they were not mp4 originally, but I made them since mp4 is the easiest format. And I have no much to say about it right now

1. What is the source of this “restoration”? You have previously mentioned that it’s based on some late 90s prints, that were scanned in 2012, with the original files being over 200gb but you insist on working in 480p.

2. Why has no one else ever heard of these scans from 2012, and why do you insist on working from them rather than any other better print that has come out since? You said that the 4k97 scans have bad colour?

3. Why haven’t you shown any visuals from your “restoration”?

4. What is your goal with this project?

Still confused about everything to do with this “project” as many questions still remain unanswered. Glad to see you haven’t given up on doing whatever it is that you do.

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I mean there can’t and won’t be noise removal since it’s a digitally produced program. Likely what you’re seeing is probably just due to resolution issues. Maybe your Disney+ stream just isn’t fast enough to show the full 1080p stream. The DVDs are also only just 480p too. I assume you’re comparing them to the full bitrate Blu-Rays or something.

hinventon said:
Then phase 6 could maybe look like this:

3. Blade