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#1615733
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AOTC 35mm historical preservation (WIP) - scan complete, fully funded, entered final processing tweaking stage
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The user was banned from TSWT Forum for failing to communicate with donors and moderators and failing to release any kind of full preview after 2 years. As far as I know, he is currently working on it privately with no timeline for release.

There is another scan that has been done by desertfox on TSWT, with a full preview being available, which is likely the one on Myspleen you are talking about.

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#1614097
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44rh1n's "The Fellowship of the Ring" Extended Edition Color Restoration (Released)
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I messaged 44rh1n at the start of August and as far as I can tell, they have only been online once since on the 13th of October. I suppose that they aren’t exactly sharing their work at this current moment.

If another user has a copy of 44rh1n’s work, and is willing to share, I would greatly appreciate it.

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#1609035
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Original trilogy: Special Edition 1997 restoration | v2.0 Available now
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Director said:

Well, it seems you have more questions than I can answer inside a thread,

Why? Is there a character limit or something?

Director said:

I do not wish to use any TN1 scans due to their scans having bad colour that would require me to spend another 5 years.

Another 5 years? I thought you started working on this in “November 2023” as per your current original post.

Arguably, you are wasting your time by working with such a low quality source, being this mysterious scan done in 2012 that no one has ever heard of that looks more like the GOUT.

And yeah, look at those bad colours. Terrible, unusable. Definitely better to use some “unknown scan from 12 years ago in SD” (GOUT) rather than a fresh HD scan.

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#1608926
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Original trilogy: Special Edition 1997 restoration | v2.0 Available now
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Yeah I still don’t understand what this project is, nor what the goal is.

There was no wide release of the OT in 1996. The SE was 97.

No one is familiar with any 35mm scan of the SE OT being done in 2012. Certainly not from an anon user on “a Swedish site”. As far as I know, no 35mm SW scans were released until at least 2016 with the SSE.

If a scan was released on a swedish site, then wouldn’t it be from a swedish user, scanning a swedish print of the Stjärnornas Krig Trilogin? All the crawls and credits you show off are in English, not swedish.

You say it was discoloured so you “corrected to look like it was in 1997”, what’s your source on colour reference?

And why is this in 480p? You insist that “the films were 480p in 1997” but clearly a cinema print of a brand new $20 million restoration of the most successful films of all time would not be in standard definition.

Also, why do this in SD too? There are at least a dozen scans of the OT that have been done in the past few years. Why use a “35mm film print from 1996, scanned to digital in 2012” that is apparently only in 480p. Why not use 4K97_IV or any other high quality sources?

I get more questions than answers from this thread.

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#1605449
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In what ways "Revenge of the Jedi" and Leigh Brackett's Empire Strikes Back different from what we got?
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Off the top of my head;

  • the Rebels hid in a giant ice fortress, supposed to be an ancient abandoned castle of some kind
  • A lot more of the Hoth sequences focused on the Wampa attacks on the base
  • after leaving Hoth, they went to find Han’s stepfather, a head smuggler who sells them out instead of Lando
  • Yoda is called Minch Yoda
  • Luke trains with the ghosts of Obi-Wan and his father (not Vader) and Minch Yoda on Dagobah
  • Vader is not Luke’s father
  • In a different draft, Lando was a clone left over from the Clone Wars

These are all half baked memories and I’m unsure how accurate they are

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#1602269
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DUELING WITH FATE - The Making of Episode I - A 13-Part Docu-Series (Released!)
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A beta release of v2 is now available for anyone that would like to watch and give feedback. I don’t want to widely release yet, but if you want to sit down and give some critiques and spot any errors in these cuts. They should be 99% done, but I’ve been staring at this for a while and can’t be subjective anymore.

Please shoot me a message if you have 5-ish hours of free time! Not in a row, the edit is still split into 13-parts of course.

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#1601996
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DUELING WITH FATE - The Making of Episode I - A 13-Part Docu-Series (Released!)
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I’ve got about 2 more pages of notes, and the first 3 parts to look at, before I’ll rewatch, and hopefully get some previews to look at it.

It’s currently running at 5:09, which is closer to how long my original release was. I’ve been mainly just trimming things to try and condense things and make points more concise. My editing before was very loose and seperate but now there’s a lot of intercutting and weaving of sources that I’m very happy about. .
I’m still keeping a bin of all the little cut bits and bobs, because some of them are interesting things, but they’re really niche and longwinded points that aren’t really juicy meat for a viewer. They’ll be presented on their own as a seperate thing.

This project is probably one of my favourite editing endevours I’ve ever undertaken, and I hope that it can be enjoyed by others.

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#1600785
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Using AI Voices to Repair Deleted Scenes (RotJ Sandstorm, Yoda Communes with Qui-Gon, etc.)
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With the Yoda/Qui-Gon scene, you can pull lines from the Clone Wars episode with Liam Neeson as the whole thing is much the same, so there’s not much need for AI, unless you want the lines exactly as scripted.

https://vimeo.com/406776742

But you’ve done a great job with all your created lines, the sandstorm scene especially sounds great!

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#1598449
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Star Wars Prelogy | 4K Filmized Remasters (Released)
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Maybe I’m blind, but what have you actually done to the films? As far as I can tell, you’ve done some kind of upscale, and then added a fake grain layer, with some new colour correction. If anything, the image looks less detailed and softer now.

Dazman has a good point in his post, comparing that the HDTV image has more fine detail in the image. Everyone looks smooth, soft, like James Camereon’s recent remaster of True Lies.

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I’m not sure what the goal of the project is. Calling it Filmized implies it’s trying to look like a 35mm film print, but it’s far too soft with a lot of the finer detail being lost, with the shadows eating up a lot of the frame too, crunching the blacks, and with the colours looking nothing like film. There’s scans for TPM and ROTS that could prove useful if you wanted to try and emulate the look of those using, what I assume are the Blu-Rays you are using. Ep2 and 3 definitely have a lot of sensor noise from the early digital cameras that could be cleaned up, but I feel what you have done is a step too far in making everything waxy.

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#1598271
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Attack of the Clones 35mm - on eBay, bought - and now project thread (a WIP)
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Shame that there’s no official comment on what happened to this print after this;

schorman13 said:

The film was shipped to a gentleman in LA with connections to Poita. I have not heard from Poita himself for quite a while (I hope all is well). At this point, I wish I could offer more information, but that’s all I can say at the moment.

I kicked in some cash for this back in the day and I know a lot of other people did. Would be nice to get some closure.

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#1597167
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DUELING WITH FATE - The Making of Episode I - A 13-Part Docu-Series (Released!)
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I’ve picked this back up and am slowly working through it.

​I have locked part 9-13, and massively overhauled everything. A lot of technical tweaks, balancing, replacing sub-par video sources, as much as I could. I want to make this definitve, even if it kills me. I’ve become less precious about little bits of material, so many little pieces have been cut for better pacing and better flow.

I’m working backward, and have Part 1-8 to finalise, rewatch again, and then finally put this to bed. This is probably the biggest editing project I’ve ever worked on, even if it’s not the most popular, but I’m very proud of it.

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#1591847
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DUELING WITH FATE - The Making of Episode I - A 13-Part Docu-Series (Released!)
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BrotherOfSasquatch said:

Hey there! So after watching “The Phantom Menace” yesterday to celebrate its 25th Anniversary, I decided to give this a whirl having it play in the background all day as I did some work.

Anyways, I wanted to say that this was pretty great and I highly commend you for overtaking such a huge project such as this. Because of the wide scope of the entire project, I did feel that how you sectioned off each part of the doc was pretty shaggy but I can’t really hold you against that. One other issue I had as well is that numerous times towards the end, the audio cuts out.

Other than that though… Nicely done!

Glad to hear you enjoyed it! I’m still chipping away at my v2, which is always ongoing because I keep finding clay to throw onto the pottery wheel. I keep rewatching and revising but I hope to have it done in the next few months.

How did it feel “shaggy”? Is it because the sections feel very seperated, rather than being more chronological in it’s approach to production (like part 1 being pre-production, part 2: shooting and production, part 2: post-production, editing and vfx, etc)

FVDnz said:

Awesome, I’ll check this out very soon! The YouTube channel Star Wars Meg recently talked about a deleted scene which could have been inserted for better context when Qui Gon disposed of one of Maul’s probes as in that one scene where he and Anakin were running for their ship without much of a reason, that scene could have been better left in.

Such a wealth of information, these Prequels have… 😃

Yeah that’s pretty much the one deleted scene that everyone adds back in when editing the film. Its so quick and explains why they’re running, it’s shocking why they cut it out.

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#1578532
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The unreleased 3 hour cut of THE FORCE AWAKENS
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timdiggerm said:

Bobson Dugnutt said:

It might take another 20 or 30 years like SW77, but eventually we’ll know more.

Maybe. I don’t expect the level open-ness from Disney ever the way we eventually got with LFL & Rinzler.

Rinzler did actually write and edit an entire Making of TFA book, that was cancelled.

https://www.slashfilm.com/546017/j-w-rinzler-the-making-of-star-wars-the-force-awakens/

He started work even before Abraams was brought on board, and interviewed nearly everyone involved. He compared it to his ROTS book, so it wasn’t going to be as open as the 30-years of hindsight for the OT books, but it was still to be a very comprehensive 368-page epic.

I hope that one day it’ll come out, but with Rinzler’s passing, it seems unlikely.

Mocata said:

Anyway here’s a brief bit of info about that whole ‘extra hour’ thing:
https://www.businessinsider.com/star-wars-force-awakens-unused-footage-2016-4?r=US&IR=T

Of course the guy who worked with all the puppets would want more of his work seen. Everyone who works in production design always does.

Editors Maryann Brandon and Mary Jo Markey have stated that the first pass was 2:30

[Mary Jo Markey said:]

It wasn’t too bad. I think it was about two and a half hours, right Maryann?

[Maryann Brandon said:]

Two and a half. And JJ really wanted it to be two hours.

Lot’s of great info in their Art of the Cut article here;

https://www.provideocoalition.com/art-of-the-cut-with-the-editors-of-star-wars-the-force-awakens/

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#1578461
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The unreleased 3 hour cut of THE FORCE AWAKENS
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With TFA, there’s a lot that we don’t know the exact specifics of, like we do with the OT or PT. The first cut was definitely 2:30-ish though, and not 3.

Zuvio was a character with an odd amount of marketing and merchandising, yet ended up in 7 frames of the final cut, and yet still we don’t know the specifics beyond that he was some kind of antagonist on Jakku for Rey.

We know that the film cut back and forth to Leia before her arrival at Maz’s, but outside of that one scene released, we don’t know how often or what her material was like. There’s glimpses of this footage reused in TROS, but nothing concrete. Same with Maz at the rebel base, she went there on the Falcon and stuck around, giving Leia the lightsaber but other than that, her role is unknown. Much of her in the castle was reshot as they were still figuring out what her character was as production progressed. Her design wasn’t finalised until post, which is why she is a CG character and not practical.

Rey’s force vision thing may or may not of had Luke and Vader’s duel on Bespin, we still don’t know for sure if it was filmed.

There was supposed to be more with Kylo Ren after the duel on Starkiller Base, but we also don’t know how much or what he did. More with Poe after his “death” on Jakku and before arriving at Maz’s castle too, but also unknown.

Basically, there is just a lot of uncertainity with TFA. There’s no un-revised drafts to go off, no extensive BTS book or documentary released, no substantial deleted scenes. It’s impossible to tell what was in early cuts, and what wasn’t The stuff we know the best about is reshot material, but even then not entirely. It might take another 20 or 30 years like SW77, but eventually we’ll know more.

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#1575329
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Men in Black (1997) Open Matte 35mm (Project Proposal)
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Found a good looking print of the first MIB film on eBay from a reputable seller. It’s open matte, of which the film is usually presented in 1.85, and P&S for the VHS/DVD.
The current bid is at $685 with shipping, and less than a day left on the auction.
I’ve got someone who is willing to put up to $650 of his own money into it, but it would be great to be able to pledge more towards it. I’d certainly pitch in as much is needed.
We haven’t calculated scanning fees or anything, just looked at buying and shipping so far.
Please either post in the thread or message me if you’d like to pledge money towards purchasing the print!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325970612091

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