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Bobson Dugnutt

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#1510112
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The Empire Strikes Back - Expanded Edition (Work in Progress)
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Long time, no update, but work is always progressing. I’m trying out a fancy new program and trying to isolate some vocals. Here’s Leia tending to Luke, with all audio noise and Kersh being muted.

https://vimeo.com/766038431

And here is what it sounded like before.

https://youtu.be/86-YB1NfgR0?t=811

A bit of an improvment to say the least. Hopefully this process can be used all over the place to clean up the rest of the raw on-set audio.

Most of the cut is picture locked, with myself and RogueLeader doing some audio work on it now.

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#1496428
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Do these missing scenes actually exist?
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Darth Caliban said:

The article i mentioned in my first post, pretended that a scene would exist with Luke opening up an AT-AT from below with his lightsaber, similar to the existing scene in ESB where Luke uses this trick to bring explosives inside the walker to stop it with the detonation, enters it to fight with the stormtroopers inside.

Could imagine that during the production someone may have had this idea and shoot some test scenes for this, before abandoning the concept.

There weren’t many test shoots for the OT, and if they were, they were for puppets, or VFX, or something they knew they needed to get right on set, like Yoda, Jabba, the Rancor, Lightsabers, droids, or costume tests. These wouldn’t be done on finished sets, or with dressed actors, but to see how the mechanics of a creature, make-up or mechanism works on camera. They were usually pretty meticulous about planning ahead of time, and wouldn’t waste time/money/effort to shoot something like an AT-AT full of stormtroopers (?) just to abandon it.

Once again, there is no script, storyboard, photographic, video or proof of any kind to suggest that such a sequence would of been shot or test shot or anything.

In the future, I implore you to look at tbone’s Star Wars Universe of Cut Scenes, as it is by far the most comprehensive archive of articles on deleted scenes in Ep1-6. Everything mentioned that had been cut is backed up by various sources and is extremely detailed.

https://starwarz.com/tbone/

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#1496336
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Do these missing scenes actually exist?
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Darth Caliban said:

By the way, to come back to the speculated about additional AT-AT scene, is it known if a set for the compartment for the stormtroopers inside the walker was ever built for ESB?

Can’t remember ever reading anything about it, but if they built it, i’d guess they would have used it at least for some test sequences.

I have no idea what scene you’re talking about, so I’m gonna say no to all that.

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#1495089
Topic
Do these missing scenes actually exist?
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Darth Caliban said:

So basically no additional story elements, dialogues or anything with alternative worldbuilding information like Han with the girl (Jenny?) in the cantina during the rough cut for ANH?

There are probably some alternate line deliveries, or different pieces of dialogue that suggest other things. Han saying “That bounty hunter we ran into on Ord Mantell changed my mind” was cut, which implies another adventure they had before ESB, for example.
It is likely however, that we generally know about just about everything that was cut, and that there aren’t any big subplots, sequences or scenes that have been cut out or kept under wraps.
People will debate forever still though that Luke missed the first time during their chasm swing, or Leia spat on Tarkin, or Vader’s TIE exploded, or the Biggs scenes were in there from the start. It’s fun to think about, but it’ll never be proven in anyway.

“I love rumors! Facts can be so misleading, but rumors, true or false, are often revealing.” - Hans Landa

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#1494949
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Do these missing scenes actually exist?
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Darth Caliban said:

Do you think it’s possible that Lucas, Kershner or Marquand shot scenes that are possibly still unknown by now and not to be found in any of the drafts and that we never ever heard of?

And that were possibly never were used for adaptions like the novelizations or comics or mentioned anywhere.

Is such a thing really possible, considering all the things we know by now about the making of the OT?

If there was something shot that we didn’t know about, it wouldn’t be big scenes, it would be little things. 2nd unit stuff like the Battle of Endor pilots, or extra footage of action scenes, inserts or alternate angles of scenes, or original versions of scenes later reshot.
At this stage, with what we know about the OT, in my opinion, there is very little deleted material we don’t know about, and certainly not a wedding scene. If there was any big scenes that haven’t seen the light of day, we would certainly know of it, due to interviews, storyboards, call sheets, script drafts, novelisations, comics, storybooks, on-set footage, or just anything.

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#1494901
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Do these missing scenes actually exist?
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As someone who loves deleted scenes, and specifically Star Wars deleted scenes, there is no deleted wedding scene.

I’ve read several drafts of ROTJ, story treatments and development notes, and books upon books of making-of material. I’ve looked at call sheets, photos, raw footage, dallies, pre-vis, concept art, animatics and anything and everything related to deleted scenes.
I can safely say there was never any wedding scene shot or shown anywhere in the world on any international TV station, or early showing, or uncle’s VHS tape, or George’s garage.
Potentially this was some idea that was floated in early production, or during the late 70s with George planning out his larger 9-15 film saga, but there is no evidence to support this.
Most drafts end on Endor/Had Abbadon, celebrating the Empire’s defeat, with no reference to Han/Leia planning to get hitched.

There wasn’t even a wedding mentioned until 93 with the Prophets of the Dark Side novel. The new canon now says they snuck away on Endor to get married, but that wasn’t until 2017, in Aftermath: Life Debt.

Basically, there is no wedding scene that was scripted, storyboarded or shot in any shape or form.

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#1494735
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Do these missing scenes actually exist?
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There are a lot of early internet rumours on that linked page, always fun to read mid-90s myths.

“A friend of mine was just telling me about the Leia-Vader torture scene. She said that she was reading an interview with Carrie Fisher, and in the article she described the scene as the most awful day of filming on the set. She described the scene in very much the same way it was portrayed in the [NPR] radio drama. She described being hung upside down while they filmed her being tortured until she eventually passed out. She then noted how pissed she was when she saw that it had been cut from the movie”

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#1487281
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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EvantheKidDS said:

Bridger12 said:

EvantheKidDS said:

I know I shouldn’t bring this up again but, I did just realize something. Since you’re using Topaz to improve the existing 2011 Blu-Ray for ANH:R HD, why not attempt the same for ESB:R?

He already did. ESB:R was originally made and released at 720p, but he used Topaz to upscale it to 1080p.

From my knowledge, I thought that Ady used the 2004 DVD Release of ESB for the Revisited Edit, not the 2011 Blu-Ray.

haha

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#1483746
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The Empire Strikes Back - Expanded Edition (Work in Progress)
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DarthTzetzo said:

Bob, you should check this:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0xuV1Y-3tARlKASNRTu-L0sQkjxMRIPY
There are an interesting stuff.

Some interesting edits, but I do have the majority of this stuff already.

theprion said:

Hey, Bobson, how is this coming along?

It’s mostly sound related stuff that needs work. The whole Wampa attack and Yoda’s test scenes are silent right now so they’ll need ground up work.
The Lobot scene hasn’t yet been integrated, but that’s on the list.
I think I may leave out Veer’s death, as it’s hard to work with.

Current runtime is 02:12:10 vs theatrical 2:04:54

Here’s a scene that has been finalised, the Hiding in the Asteroid scene, with audio work done by RogueLeader.

https://vimeo.com/708486598

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#1480488
Topic
STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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EvantheKidDS said:

I was watching the Regraded Blu-Ray from Ady and, I found something. I’m just gonna let these images speak for themselves.

If you look closely enough, Mark Hamill is carrying a prop that looks closely like a lightsaber, possibly a reference to his role in Star Wars: Episode IV: A New Hope (1977), of which was filmed around the same time.

Good pickup!

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#1480334
Topic
The Empire Strikes Back - Expanded Edition (Work in Progress)
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Slavicuss said:

So, what’s the rest of the unreleased Wampa footage consist of? Anybody know what exactly was filmed and what wasn’t?

Pretty much everything with the Wampa subplot was filmed, Kersh has talked about regretably filming it all

“Ït’s better not to shoot something than to shoot it and cut it out”

Here are the rest of the odds and ends, with no footage to accompany it

There’s a longer scene with Han talking to some of the Rebel officers, they mention the Tauntauns being attacked.

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More footage of the attack of both the Wampa and Rebels

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3PO telling R2 that the Wampa trap is in this room

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And lastly, a scene with Han/Leia talking about it to Riekeen

LEIA
Have they analyzed the one that was killed?

RIEEKAN
Not yet. They’re working on it now.

Another alarm goes off at a console behind them and the SENSOR CONTROLLER at that spot calls across the room.

SENSOR CONTROLLER
General!

Rieekan leaves the group as they continue …

HEAD CONTROLLER
It won’t be long before our sensors will be able to track them.

THREEPIO
It figures Artoo would be in the middle of this.

HAN
It’s going to be a little tricky around here until we know where they’re coming form.

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#1480331
Topic
Favourite Pieces of Music in Star Wars
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What are some of peoples’ favourites out there? From any film, show, video game, trivia DVD, board game, interactive VHS, companion CD, Episode I Commtech toy, etc.

Here’s a few of mine, in no particular order, besides chronological

Star Wars
Binary Sunset
Leia’s Plea
Throne Room

Empire Strikes Back
Yoda and the Force
Frozen in Carbonite
The Rebel Fleet

Return of the Jedi
Brother and Sister
Darth Vader’s Death
Yub Nub - Ewok Celebration

Phantom Menace
Swimming to Otoh Gunga
Darth Maul and The Sith Spacecraft
The Parade

Attack of the Clones
Finding Kamino

Revenge of the Sith
The Great Jedi Purge
Palpatine’s Teachings
Birth of the Twins

Force Awakens
The Scavenger
Han and Leia Dicuss Kylo
Torn Apart
The Jedi Steps

Last Jedi
Canto Bight/Master Codebreaker
The Spark
Peace and Purpose

Rise of Skywalker
Advice
Destiny of a Jedi
A New Home

The Mandolorian
The Mandolorian
Mando Rescue
Come with Me

johnny

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#1480327
Topic
The Empire Strikes Back - Expanded Edition (Work in Progress)
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That guy with no name said:

Bobson Dugnutt,

Looking at the clips you have, They seem to need very thorough cleaning. If you’d like, I can do a pretty good job cleaning these clips. If you’re up for it.

I appreciate the offer, but I have aimed to go for a little bit of a retro look to it. I still think the most recent 2019 BR, and even D+ project look far too clean and sterile.

I did do a pass on the raw deleted scenes off the 2011 disc, and doing an upscale and DNR pass to get rid of the digital noise and artifacts introduced by the modern encoding. Then introduced a new grain layer, using real 35mm film.

before
after

RogueLeader said:

It would be great if the blasters shots matched the look of original vfx. And what work are you referring to regarding the Wampa arms?

I’m using the original WOTS2 scene as a reference, with hopes to redo the effects.

Here’s the newest cut of the scene, of which I’m very happy with.

https://vimeo.com/700143930

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#1479911
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General Star Wars Questions
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There’s a pretty high quality view of the X-Wing pilot suit here in this 1977 printing of the novelisation. Both front and back.

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There must’ve been more efficant ways to find a reference for the costume. Maybe the toys, but I know how hard they were to get right after the film had come out.

I’m really leaning towards a lie for this one, it seems like a waste of time to sit through a 2 hour movie to take notes during the last 20 minutes. I mean it was the 70s though, maybe she just really liked sitting through it.

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#1479719
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The Empire Strikes Back - Expanded Edition (Work in Progress)
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RogueLeader said:

The color is beautiful in that Luke shot! I wasn’t sure if you would or be able to colorize that shot, but I’m so happy it worked out! Excellent work.

I really didn’t think it would work, but I saw the shot done in TMBTM’s War of the Stars II, and he did it pretty amazingly to match the GOUT.

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The current cut of the film is at 2:16:01 (theatrical is 2:04:54), and does not yet include the Wampa Attack or Lobot Capture. I’m still working on the Wampa scene, and trying to wrap my head around the Lobot one.
A lot of the visuals are locked or close to being locked. Most visual work is purely transitions, or grading. The Wampa scene is going to be a lot of work with blaster bolts, Wampa arms and other small bits of work. Should be fun.