Bobson Dugnutt

While the video as a whole is not great and is completely muddled and a little mean spirited towards RocketJump.

But it does feature a lot of great research into the lost cut of the film with a lot of good sources. I’d honestly rather prefer that the video was a 2 hour exploration into the editing of the film instead of this odd take-down. The constant replaying of footage and overanalysing of minor wording within the script got tiring. The actual discussion and talk of editing SW was great to listen to and I hadn’t heard a lot of it.

I’d also reccomend The Secret History of Star Wars to those who haven’t read it before, as it features heavily in the video.

The Naked Gun films aren’t exactly the amazing visual experiences that the Blu-Rays are just so unwatchable. I mean I just watch them on DVD. I doubt a 35mm scan would be the head and shoulders improvment that we’re all clammering for.

Please stop asking for stuff like this and fixing DNR and Dolby Vision and whatever else.

The music transition at the end isn’t 100% smooth, but everything else is absolutely perfect! I’d love to use it in an extended edit myself, the de-age stuff doesn’t worry me too much.

no

I’ll kick in a few bucks, is the best way to do it through the PayPal link?

I’d absolutely chip in as much as I could to get it scanned

Long time, no update, but work is always progressing. I’m trying out a fancy new program and trying to isolate some vocals. Here’s Leia tending to Luke, with all audio noise and Kersh being muted.

https://vimeo.com/766038431

And here is what it sounded like before.

https://youtu.be/86-YB1NfgR0?t=811

A bit of an improvment to say the least. Hopefully this process can be used all over the place to clean up the rest of the raw on-set audio.

Most of the cut is picture locked, with myself and RogueLeader doing some audio work on it now.

No new updates with this project really, still chipping away at things. Here’s a rough cut of a section from Hoth. A lot of new stuff is in here, but be warned that a lot of audio and video work needs to be done.

https://vimeo.com/734771572

Exciting to see some of this unseen stuff! I’ve only watched episode 1/2 so far, but it’s great seeing this footage. They finally showed off a cut of the trench run with the Dam Busters footage too!

Darth Caliban said:

The article i mentioned in my first post, pretended that a scene would exist with Luke opening up an AT-AT from below with his lightsaber, similar to the existing scene in ESB where Luke uses this trick to bring explosives inside the walker to stop it with the detonation, enters it to fight with the stormtroopers inside.

Could imagine that during the production someone may have had this idea and shoot some test scenes for this, before abandoning the concept.

There weren’t many test shoots for the OT, and if they were, they were for puppets, or VFX, or something they knew they needed to get right on set, like Yoda, Jabba, the Rancor, Lightsabers, droids, or costume tests. These wouldn’t be done on finished sets, or with dressed actors, but to see how the mechanics of a creature, make-up or mechanism works on camera. They were usually pretty meticulous about planning ahead of time, and wouldn’t waste time/money/effort to shoot something like an AT-AT full of stormtroopers (?) just to abandon it.

Once again, there is no script, storyboard, photographic, video or proof of any kind to suggest that such a sequence would of been shot or test shot or anything.

In the future, I implore you to look at tbone’s Star Wars Universe of Cut Scenes, as it is by far the most comprehensive archive of articles on deleted scenes in Ep1-6. Everything mentioned that had been cut is backed up by various sources and is extremely detailed.

https://starwarz.com/tbone/

Darth Caliban said:

By the way, to come back to the speculated about additional AT-AT scene, is it known if a set for the compartment for the stormtroopers inside the walker was ever built for ESB?

Can’t remember ever reading anything about it, but if they built it, i’d guess they would have used it at least for some test sequences.

I have no idea what scene you’re talking about, so I’m gonna say no to all that.

Darth Caliban said:

So basically no additional story elements, dialogues or anything with alternative worldbuilding information like Han with the girl (Jenny?) in the cantina during the rough cut for ANH?

There are probably some alternate line deliveries, or different pieces of dialogue that suggest other things. Han saying “That bounty hunter we ran into on Ord Mantell changed my mind” was cut, which implies another adventure they had before ESB, for example.
It is likely however, that we generally know about just about everything that was cut, and that there aren’t any big subplots, sequences or scenes that have been cut out or kept under wraps.
People will debate forever still though that Luke missed the first time during their chasm swing, or Leia spat on Tarkin, or Vader’s TIE exploded, or the Biggs scenes were in there from the start. It’s fun to think about, but it’ll never be proven in anyway.

“I love rumors! Facts can be so misleading, but rumors, true or false, are often revealing.” - Hans Landa

Darth Caliban said:

Do you think it’s possible that Lucas, Kershner or Marquand shot scenes that are possibly still unknown by now and not to be found in any of the drafts and that we never ever heard of?

And that were possibly never were used for adaptions like the novelizations or comics or mentioned anywhere.

Is such a thing really possible, considering all the things we know by now about the making of the OT?

If there was something shot that we didn’t know about, it wouldn’t be big scenes, it would be little things. 2nd unit stuff like the Battle of Endor pilots, or extra footage of action scenes, inserts or alternate angles of scenes, or original versions of scenes later reshot.
At this stage, with what we know about the OT, in my opinion, there is very little deleted material we don’t know about, and certainly not a wedding scene. If there was any big scenes that haven’t seen the light of day, we would certainly know of it, due to interviews, storyboards, call sheets, script drafts, novelisations, comics, storybooks, on-set footage, or just anything.

As someone who loves deleted scenes, and specifically Star Wars deleted scenes, there is no deleted wedding scene.

I’ve read several drafts of ROTJ, story treatments and development notes, and books upon books of making-of material. I’ve looked at call sheets, photos, raw footage, dallies, pre-vis, concept art, animatics and anything and everything related to deleted scenes.
I can safely say there was never any wedding scene shot or shown anywhere in the world on any international TV station, or early showing, or uncle’s VHS tape, or George’s garage.
Potentially this was some idea that was floated in early production, or during the late 70s with George planning out his larger 9-15 film saga, but there is no evidence to support this.
Most drafts end on Endor/Had Abbadon, celebrating the Empire’s defeat, with no reference to Han/Leia planning to get hitched.

There wasn’t even a wedding mentioned until 93 with the Prophets of the Dark Side novel. The new canon now says they snuck away on Endor to get married, but that wasn’t until 2017, in Aftermath: Life Debt.

Basically, there is no wedding scene that was scripted, storyboarded or shot in any shape or form.

There are a lot of early internet rumours on that linked page, always fun to read mid-90s myths.

“A friend of mine was just telling me about the Leia-Vader torture scene. She said that she was reading an interview with Carrie Fisher, and in the article she described the scene as the most awful day of filming on the set. She described the scene in very much the same way it was portrayed in the [NPR] radio drama. She described being hung upside down while they filmed her being tortured until she eventually passed out. She then noted how pissed she was when she saw that it had been cut from the movie”

I’m gonna definitely say no to both claims here. This is the first I’m hearing of it and there has never been any mention of any scene in anything I’ve ever read, watched or listened to.

Darth telly said:

Here is my order for beginners

I stopped when I got to the SW Holiday Special at #2 on a list entitled “Essential Media”

Here’s my attempt at colourising the scene. Took a hit of work to get it to match the 35mm scan I had used

https://vimeo.com/696986729

EvantheKidDS said:

Bridger12 said:

EvantheKidDS said:

I know I shouldn’t bring this up again but, I did just realize something. Since you’re using Topaz to improve the existing 2011 Blu-Ray for ANH:R HD, why not attempt the same for ESB:R?

He already did. ESB:R was originally made and released at 720p, but he used Topaz to upscale it to 1080p.

From my knowledge, I thought that Ady used the 2004 DVD Release of ESB for the Revisited Edit, not the 2011 Blu-Ray.

Darth telly said:

spoRv said:

• Battle of Endor: The Lost Rebels DFR/BD (09:06:20) -> Death Star Space Battle

There is a 9 hour 6 minute 20 second scene?

9 minutes, 6.2 seconds.

Continually keep adding Order 66 scenes from different shows/games/movies/unfinished deleted scenes to ROTS, until it ends up being it’s own movie

DarthTzetzo said:

Bob, you should check this:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0xuV1Y-3tARlKASNRTu-L0sQkjxMRIPY
There are an interesting stuff.

Some interesting edits, but I do have the majority of this stuff already.

theprion said:

Hey, Bobson, how is this coming along?

It’s mostly sound related stuff that needs work. The whole Wampa attack and Yoda’s test scenes are silent right now so they’ll need ground up work.
The Lobot scene hasn’t yet been integrated, but that’s on the list.
I think I may leave out Veer’s death, as it’s hard to work with.

Current runtime is 02:12:10 vs theatrical 2:04:54

Here’s a scene that has been finalised, the Hiding in the Asteroid scene, with audio work done by RogueLeader.

https://vimeo.com/708486598

EvantheKidDS said:
George Lucas was being heavily discredited by the internet trying to prove he didn’t do anything in making the original Star Wars film when it was in production.
Also, there is a mountain of evidence that proves that George Lucas was heavily involved in the creation of the original Star Wars

Exhibit A

I’ve looked at these pictures for hours and hours and still can’t see any visable differences or continuity problems with the rest of the film

EvantheKidDS said:

I was watching the Regraded Blu-Ray from Ady and, I found something. I’m just gonna let these images speak for themselves.

If you look closely enough, Mark Hamill is carrying a prop that looks closely like a lightsaber, possibly a reference to his role in Star Wars: Episode IV: A New Hope (1977), of which was filmed around the same time.

Good pickup!