What’s recommended instead?
Depends what you are wanting to do.
Avidemux maybe?
Avidemux seems to be what I was looking for. Thank you so much.
What’s recommended instead?
Whenever I import an MKV file into VirtualDubMod, I’m greeted with this:
However, when I import the same MKV file into regular VirtualDub there is no problem and everything works fine. Would anyone know or care to take a guess on the cause of this?
All help is much appreciated.
So this project will be GOUT synced?
I’d more than bet on it.
towne32 said:
Presumably you’ve fixed your synchronization issues now if you’re discussing sync again?
Not yet. The syncing I’m referring to is the 4k77 video file itself, as it is missing frames.
Here’s a comparison video of the non-DNR clip Williarob posted with the both the SSE and DeEd: https://youtu.be/NN59EkcGtQk
There is one instance where it goes out of sync(presumably due to missing frame(s)), but it’s quickly corrected soon after.
If anyone is interested, I can upload and link the raw video file here for download for viewing without YouTube compression degrading the quality.
Attention grain lovers. As promised, here is the same extended clip as before, but this time without the DNR:
Would you mind if I uploaded side-by-side comparison videos with these short clips?
It’s good to know I haven’t created an enormous amount of work for Harmy. I use VSDC video editor with the comparison videos set to 30fps. Most of the time the DeEd appeared in sync with the gout and blu-ray in the editor, but in the instances I posted above, both the GOUT and Blu-ray appeared to agree against the DeEd, and because all three of those sources have the same frame rate, that prompted me to bring this up.
Magic bullet grade is very nice. The pants one is a nice observation.
Are you seeing frames duplicated that should not be, in all of the sources? (can’t look at all of your new comparisons at the moment).
I’m not sure exactly what you mean. For example, let’s say you have frames a, b, and c that are in a sequence. Frame a for the blu-ray, gout, and deed are in sync. In the blu-ray and GOUT, frames b & c are the same (due to the movies’ framerate) but in despecialized, a & b are the same. On frame c the sync is once again made identical. The screenshots above addressing this observation are frames a & b in this case.
Many of the issues I’ve come across with the DeEd seem to be that in places where the Blu-ray and the GOUT would duplicate a frame, the DeEd often duplicates that same frame a frame later than the Blu-ray and the GOUT. Here are a few examples of non-transition shots:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188418
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188422
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188423
There are all the places from the video where this occurs when happening at a transition frame:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188403
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188404
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188406
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188408
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188409
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188411
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188416
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188417
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188419
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188420
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188421
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188424
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188425
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188426
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188430
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188431
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188432
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188434
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188435
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188436
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188437
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188438
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188439
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188440
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188441
Based on all of the other comparison vids I’ve had to sync, I’m under the impression this is a problem(if it can be classified as such) common all of the DeEds, but I could be very wrong. I’ll have to pay attention to this more closely in the future. I don’t think I’ll continue to report instances of this problem, though.
Here are other issues:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188399
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188400
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188401
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188402
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188405
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188407
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188410
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188412
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188413
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188414
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188433
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188442
Source video: https://youtu.be/2NjEghWG9l0
For those of you wanting a closer look at the difference between the Denoised and non-denoised version:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188230
I know some of you will hate the DNR, while others will prefer it, which is why I figured I should make two versions…
Jedit: By the way, the DNR is calibrated on a shot by shot basis, rather than just applying it to the whole film with one setting. As we all know, some scenes are much grainier than others!
I’m firmly in the anti DNR camp so extra thanks is in order for your being so considerate to we grain fetishists. 😃
^
Quick question, why does the Final Result crop off some of the image?
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188245
Are there any plans to color correct the uncleaned scans and put out a grindhouse release at at least 1080p?
Even less red?
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188200
I also took a shot at it:
Maybe pull back a bit on the contrast and see what you get.
Here’s my shot at a color correction:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188180I like that. The pink tint is gone.
JEdit: Sorry, I was looking at it on my phone. If the 2 images are labelled correctly, then yours is even pinker than mine…
Is this more up your alley?
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188196
Here’s my shot at a color correction:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188180
ESB v2.0
The DeEd seems to either be behind the GOUT in 13 instances or ahead in 15 in this sequence. I synced the video to the 13 discrepancies shown below.
The DeEd is one frame behind the GOUT in this instance:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/187991
The DeEd is one frame behind the GOUT in this instance:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/187992
The DeEd is one frame behind the GOUT in this instance:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/187993
The DeEd is one frame behind the GOUT in this instance:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/187994
The DeEd is one frame behind the GOUT in this instance:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/187995
The DeEd is one frame behind the GOUT in this instance:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/187996
The DeEd is one frame behind the GOUT in this instance:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/187997
The DeEd is one frame behind the GOUT in this instance:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/187999
The DeEd is one frame behind the GOUT in this instance:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188000
The DeEd’s lightsaber flash is one frame behind the GOUT in this instance:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188001
The DeEd is one frame behind the GOUT in this instance:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188002
The DeEd is one frame the GOUT in this instance:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188003
The DeEd is one frame behind the GOUT in this instance:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188004
Source Video: https://youtu.be/qG2ooKr5zP8
Sorry if this or any past of future posts of mine have been reported or corrected already in the past.
Your frame comparisons are very helpful. Can you make them PNGs or at least try to alleviate some of that macroblocking in the blacks?
The images I upload are PNGs. I’d assume any problems are either caused by the website compressing the image(if it does that) or either handbrake which I use to extract the clip in the first place or the video editing software I use.
The DeEd is one frame ahead in this instance of the GOUT(and SSE):
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/187900
The DeEd is one frame ahead in this instance of the GOUT, Blu-ray, and SSE:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/187901
Source video: https://youtu.be/KNjWpSglUOY
I was comparing the frames in this sequence and I thought some of the syncing was kind of interesting:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/187902
This one is perhaps an issue with the DeEd, but it interests me for the same reason the other two below do.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/187903
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/187904
As seen, the SSE is in sync with the Blu-ray rather than the GOUT in these instances. Is this confirmed to be do to the SSE’s framerate? If so, sorry for wasting everyone’s time, and if not, hopefully this is useful information to those it would concern.
I forgot to include the word “four” after “I assume you are referring to rule [four]…” Sorry for the trouble.
If I may, though, I would suggest revising the rules to explicitly state links even that do not go to direct downloads are not permitted, that is if rule four was the violation to begin with.
Also, sorry if anything I’ve said came off as snarky. That is genuinely not my intention, as tone is not always easily conveyed through text.
I’ve managed to upload the full movie to YouTube: (link removed)
There’s no telling how long it will be up, maybe weeks from now, days from now, or even only minutes from now, or maybe we’ll get lucky for it to be left up indefinitely, though I doubt that. Enjoy while you still can!
Read the rules.
http://originaltrilogy.com/announcement/Fan-edit-preservation-forum-rules-and-FAQ/id/5950
And don’t post links like that again.
Point taken. Though, I assume you are referring to rule four, and if so, YouTube does not allow you to directly download their videos: you would need a third party software to do so, which I did not provide in that post.
Additionally, assuming at least 90%(which I’d argue is a VERY conservative estimate) of all YouTube videos contain copyrighted content, would that not mean most YouTube links posted on the forum in the past are in violation of the rules as well assuming I was in the wrong to begin with and that YouTube is not welcome here in general? If that is the case, you may want to edit out the same YouTube link posted in your reply(despite its being dead).
Uploading whole movies to youtube is not only against youtube rules, but against the law.
I think I’m in good company: you could consider, then, that any of these preservation projects here illegal(which I’m not trying to dispute), but that is why they are frequently cited to be in a legal grey area, as these projects and the distribution of their results are partly justified on preservation and educational grounds. Education is greatest when the most number of people reap its benefits.
Unfortunately, the YouTube video has been taken down by Disney. Luckily, I got to expose a friend to it only hours before it was taken down 😃.
From what I’ve tested I would say that it’s very time consuming. Making sure what processes are being done to the footage are constructive to the shot and don’t take away anything or create unwanted artifacts. Aside from that the SuperResolution tool is very fast compared to the Detail-preserving Upscale effect, however the latter produces better results. That ends up as significant render time for each shot along with whatever you decide to do in addition (Like Denoising, adding grain back and color correcting/grading the footage to match a source).
That is basically why. Or many just haven’t discovered it yet.
I know my blu-ray player is able to enhance the picture quality of DVDs it plays, and it doesn’t take a second longer for the player to make that conversion. Is that or a similar feature to SuperResolution or Detail-Preserving Upscale, and if so, why is the BD player able to perform it so quickly, and if not, why not use the same optimization software/technology(or w/e it is) for every movie?
It amazes me how this up-scaling process works. What is the reason as to why this isn’t used (more)?