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#366451
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Yoda is shown beginning to tune into the Qui-Gon Force frequency in ATOC (or is it the other way around?)

Qui-Gon does find and put his foot down about Anakin (and we all know how he turned out).

So while it doesn't completely fix the problem (only a trip in the TARDIS armed with a cricket bat could do that) it does ease the problem a bit if the Jedi ability to sense what the dark side is up to is clouded and they assume that one of their own made the necessary preparations.

They are stuck in a difficult place.

The Senate have rushed through a motion legitimising the creation of an army that already exists to counter a threat that already exists.

In a sense the clones are outside their control anyway.

It would be also help the situation if somehow a call for continued investigation and assessment of the army was made. Yoda seems to be the most sceptical while Mace and Obi-wan seem to see the army as a gift from the Force (they should have checked out the horse shaped parcel before pulling it into the city first however, such are the many perils of the postal system).

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#366448
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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The easiest thing to do with Sydo-Dyas/Syfo-Dyas is to (with a bit of tinkering) make him into Qui-Gon (or at least the references to him).

So when the Geonosians claim to be working for a Jedi who died 10 years before it fits with what we already know.

In reality it could be Sidious using Qui-Gon's good name to get up to some nasty work behind the scenes which would leave the Jedi scratching there heads.

Was Qui-Gon going rogue like his former master?

Did he know what his former master was up to and prepare for the coming storm?

Is Dooku the Sith Master and Qui-Gon was trying to counter his moves from behind the scenes because he knew how far up the conspiracy went?

With all this talk of changing the fighter craft and the like it might be useful to look at some of the strange aircraft designs of yesteryear (as any attempt to do this would need new models).

Here is a nice web site with some very bizarre and often Star Warsian looking real life aircraft.

http://www.unrealaircraft.com/index.php

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#366297
Topic
THE STAR WARS SAGA - 1080P AVCHD DVD-9 for PS3 & Blu-Ray players - Episodes 1, 4 & 5 available now
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Having a bit of a problem here chaps and chapettes.

I downloaded the iso hoping just to take screen captures to build a higher Rez version of the PS mosaic of the interior of Ben's Hut I made for doing mockups (still and later video) of the Ben's ghost at his old house idea I posted over on the ESB/ROTJ thread.

Like this one which I made with the DVD version of ANH (only hopefully better when armed with something of higher definition) :

Empty Hut

I can't find anything that can open the iso image in linux at all, even with the select team of the better half armed with several cups of tea (+++UPDATE Isobuster seems to be able to see the contents I'll post what happens just incase anyone else is in the same desert skiff+++).

If any kind soul out there armed with the HD version could PM me with enough screen captures to do the necessary I would greatly appreciate it.

The above image has worked out fine for small mockups but if I were to move into something a bit more ambitious the extra detail from a HD image could make all the difference.

+++BREAKING NEWS+++ The tea worked it now plays in VLC like a dream and the picture is top notch. So assistance is no longer required, Now I have to get down to doing the hard work again+++

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#366238
Topic
Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist
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When I was a kid I used to think it was a good joke to have this scary looking mysterious character turn up but when he finally speaks he sounds like mouse breaking wind, now it's like a warning of the sort of flight of fancy that would become Jar-Jar and the battledroids.

I suppose he was born out of the same background as Boba Fett (that Vader was at one point going to be a bounty hunter hired to track down the Rebels).

He looks a bit like some early drawings of what finally became Vader.

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#366236
Topic
How to make certain movie series' perfect...
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ATown8814 said:

THE GODFATHER

*The Godfather Part III NEVER HAPPENED.

 

STAR WARS

*The Star Wars Prequels NEVER HAPPENED.

*The Star Wars Special Editions NEVER HAPPENED.

 

INDIANA JONES

*Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom NEVER HAPPENED.

*Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull NEVER HAPPENED.

 

ALIEN

*Alien 3 NEVER HAPPENED.

*Alien: Resurrection NEVER HAPPENED.

 

LETHAL WEAPON

*Lethal Weapon 3 NEVER HAPPENED.

*Lethal Weapon 4 NEVER HAPPENED.

 

SUPERMAN

*Superman 3 NEVER HAPPENED.

*Superman 4 NEVER HAPPENED.

 

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The following films never had any sequels:

*BACK TO THE FUTURE
*JURASSIC PARK
*JAWS
*ROCKY
*BEVERLY HILLS COP

There. Apply that to the movie world and all of these film series are much better off, in my opinion.

The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy has yet to be made into a movie.

 

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#366153
Topic
The most godawful sequel?
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I was forced by a great friend of mine to sit through all the Austin Powers films.

I've never found Mike Myers funny but I found them all awful movies as revenge I made him sit through the spoof Casino Royale and What's New Pussycat? and he later agreed that they did everything those films set out to do but a million times better.

I could have dug out the Doctor Goldfoot films too but the point was made.

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#366136
Topic
The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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The Naboo Starfighter matches the technological stylings of all the other Naboo ships and speeders so I don't have a serious problem with them, though I might take down the colour a little (and have different colours for different squadrons, as I suggested earlier).

If they were in line with the same sort of colours as the astromech droids that would be fine.

But I'm fully behind the idea of slick Y-Wings, X-Wings etc being Republic ships it makes sense that the Rebels in the OT are trying to maintain and enhance old ships rather than building new ones.

It would also make sense to have some of the Rebel ships on the Separatists side too.

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#365930
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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EyeShotFirst said:

That actually looks more worn out than the OT millenium falcon. I am talking a very clean streamlined hot of the assembly line Falcon.

You can build it here out of card and make it as clean and pristine as you like :

http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~sf-papercraft/Gallery/YT-1300/YT-1300.html

I suggested adding pristine Rebel craft way back in the earliest pages but it would make more sense if they belonged to the Republic.

In my linear TPM scenerio they could turn up at the last minute once the Jedi get the communications jamming ship shut down.

I actually like the Naboo star fighters as they are (but I would have more of them and with different colours) as they represent a tiny planetary royal flight a bit like those held by small European nations before WWI (a bit like the ABRE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Battalion_of_the_Royal_Engineers).

You get the feeling that the Naboo fighters were really only had a ceremonial role (public displays and honour flights) but when the Federation invaded they had to step up to the mark.

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#365807
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Video Games - a general discussion thread
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I'm too poor to get a console every two minutes but I've got so many games on my Gamecube and PSone that I've never got around to playing that it doesn't bother me.

I'm currently (when I have the time) trying my best to play the Devilish Eternal Darkness, a great story and really inventive but also really frustrating at times.

The game can throw a really tricky moment at you at the beginning of a level which can lead to having to sit through the loading screen and a cut scene over and over again while you try to get passed it (why can't they let you skip that?).

Jedi Outcast was the last game I finished and that was fun but I managed to complete the final level without knowing how I actually did it, which is sort of the other end of the spectrum.

Game designers need to remember that most people play games in fits and starts so there should be a bit of a learning curve to each level as well as in the game as a whole and the end should be only accomplished with skill, there is nothing worse than spending ages going through a game only to have a blink and miss it conclusion caused by a slip of the fingers.

 

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#365798
Topic
STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
Time

I'm Ubuntu on my main computer and OS X on my laptop and I've only had one wobbly (possible computer clap) moment and that was on the Mac.

I'd recommend Ubuntu to anyone getting a new computer as there is load and loads of really good free software out there and it runs like a dream.

You can also save a lot of money if you purchase a computer without windows.

 

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#365794
Topic
The most godawful sequel?
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Alot of people defend ROTJ and the Star Wars prequels out of sense of devotion to the brand name, just as a large number of detractors of those films attack them out of a sense of devotion to the brand as defined by the first two installments. Some people just attack the prequels as they see ROTJ as part of the brand but the prequels as not.

These are sectarian arguments, flag following for the sake of it.

It's like someone backing a church or a nation state just because of it's name and history rather than by what it actually does or how it functions in the here and now.

One of the potential hazards of continuing a story beyond it's initial state is any new additions colour or flavour the audience reaction to the original product.

Star Wars as a collected text is dragged down in the view of the general viewing audience by the failings (percieved or arguably observable) of one or more of it's component parts.

There is always an element of subjectivity here too (what works for one viewer may not work for someone else, one viewer may have different levels of expectation from a work than an another which would influence their reaction to each installment and to the greater canon).

Personally I find it more useful to take each installment seperatly and then later weigh it against what sit beside it.

The Terminator was a well made B-Movie inspired by (or shameless derivative of) a number of stories, mostly by Harlan Ellison (but he borrowed many of the themes from elsewhere too). It had a self contained and generally bleak (with a few rays of lightness) atmosphere and a brisk, tight narrative style.

Terminator 2 was a slicker looking comic book style B-Movie which took the bitter sweet, self contained narrative of the original away and replaced it with a can do, proactive survivalist mantra. It was compromised by the previous film's association with an actor who's rising fame and desire to play comic/heroic figures took the film into Roger Moore Bond territory. The director too wanted to be taken more seriously and the long monologues and heavy handed message laden narrative swerves only served to detract from the fun it still wanted to maintain from the B-Movie roots of the original film. Where the first film pulled everything in one direction this film tried to pull in all directions at once. The conclusion of the film (with the origins of Skynet destroyed but John Conner still alive) could only be reconciled by alternate timeline definition of time travel (countering the predestination model of the first film). So what were they really fighting for? If somewhere Skynet still exists to be fought and to send back the Terminator and Kyle Reese in the first film all the people who died in the second one, including the hero Terminator died in vain. The ending was clearly there to allow for further sequels as logically Sarah Conner would return to being any woman USA and her son would not come into being if they really could change the future (even the dropped alternate ending keeps old Sarah is aware of the events that have happened to her so somewhere those events have happened because of a seperate but related set of events she cannot prevent). So for me it didn't work either as a sequel or as a film in it's own right, it has some interesting moments and elements but they don't successfully come together well.

At least Terminator 3 (for all it many faults, which have been largely corrected in fan edits) returned the series back to it's fatalism and bitter sweet bleakness. It even acknowledged the flaw in the ending of the previous film, no computer company keeps all it project details in one location and all that Sarah Conner and Co managed to do was delay and slightly alter the timing of Judgment Day from their perspective. It's no classic but it's certainly not a chained down by star or director ambitions (Arnie actually does some real acting in the third film, he looks almost the same but is playing a very different machine). The theatrical cut was compromised by some strange humourous interludes but with those removed it's a much better sequel but not much of a film in it's own right.

The fourth one is compromised by a star (but not as much as Terminator 2 was) and a director who wants to make a name for himself rather than change the perception people already have of him as was the case with Cameron. Once again the studio allowed the story to be interfered with in an attempt to anticipate and avoid an audience reaction which it doing so actually caused (the story of the film and the making of the film have overlapped). The fear that without the linking star name and a bigger role for the new star name the series would fold created a distorted ending which spoils an otherwise solid film. It's like a shaggy dog story joke without the necessary punchline. But as a shaggy dog story it has more going for it and pulls in less directions (until the dreaded final act) than the second one does.

I'm actually beginning to wish they had put the Project Angel storyline in.

It would at least add something new to the series.

The Terminator in the second film observes that we are programmed for self destruction.

The idea that Skynet might try to re-engineer humanity to give it what it seems to want (freedom from death, pain and responsibilty and guided by all knowing, all seeing God like entity) and that the hero of the resistance against this New World Order is a machine with a human soul is bold new direction for the series to take. Sure people would be angered just by the idea itself (no matter how well it was executed) but people seem to be miffed by the film as it currently stands anyway. For a film which set out to be about the truth behind myth finding out that there was more behind Conner and Skynet than we were lead to believe would have made the film interestingly different but remain true to the source.

Sequels only really succeed when they go against expectations and forget about exterior pressures (which will always be there if the film is good or bad).

Godfather II and ESB are successful sequels because they give more than what than just a re-run of what went before but stay true to what went before.

As for The Wonderful Wizard Of Oz Baum's ending is actually very clever because it sets up Oz as a related but separate realm, the characters exist both in Oz as he scarecrow, Lion etc but they have their counterparts in this realm. Dorothy sees it as just a dream because it makes sense to her that way and because the adults back up her interpretation of what happened. As born out in the sequel where the realm exists without Dorothy having to be there.

Baum practically invented the idea of parallel universes in science fiction by doing that.

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#365758
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The most godawful sequel?
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The choppyness only really kicks in during the final act (and that's pretty much explained by the production background story).

It may be that some of the Kyle /Marcus material that was scripted was also filmed and might turn up in some extended version but that wasn't edited in a detectable choppy way (at least going by my one viewing of it) the really problem is that final reel.

We now don't know why Skynet has a human styled control centre or why they are kidnapping people and loading them into brain scanners, which is something that could have been scripted around without having the Project Angel stuff. It could be explained as Skynet wanting to make more units like Marcus, heaven's knows he would be able to sneek into human camps better than someone like Arnie, a Terminator shaped after the old lady or the mute girl would be even less noticable.

Hopefully an extended cut and/or deleted material will make it onto a future DVD release and we can get an spoilt star/internet fanboy panic free version that takes it beyond being the good movie it is into the really good movie it should have been.

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#365715
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The most godawful sequel?
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That explains why the last act didn't work as well as the rest but I genuinely thought even with these imposed flaws (like The Exorcist 3) it was still a rather good film and for the reasons I explained earlier T2 is more of an annoyance to me than even T3.

It also explains the brain scan things they were loading Reese into.

So in a sense the interweb nutjobs describing T4 as the worst thing in the universe are largely responsible for the film not being as good as it could have been.

Oh for an edit.

Of course Conner should have realised that Reese could never be in peril because without the accidental discovery of the original Terminator chip even this slightly delayed Skynet might never exist. If Skynet was safe and it knows Reese will be Conner's father the trick would be to not invent the time machine thus removing him from the timeline, no Conner no defeat (unless this means no Skynet in which case Reese is the safest man on the planet).

It was (possibly accidentally) interesting that Skynet was aware of the changes in it's own time line.

I wonder if all the Terminators from the previous films came from different futures sharing a common past.

As for Arnie (or faux Arnie and it was scary how well he was blended in) in T3 there was the story about an Arniemator being successfully sent to kill John Conner playing on his childhood bond with that model and it was that model that was sent back in time to save him in the previous sequel.

John now knows about this so it's unlikely to have actually happened but when I saw that Terminator I though that it would play out a bit like that only slightly adjusted.

In the end it was a fan service but a technically interesting one, imagine what they may be able to do in a few more years time, replace Ewan with a young Alec Guinness (or the other way around going by George's track record) at the very least stick Peter Cushing into ROTS.

 

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#365699
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Death Star Control Room found!
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Yeah fishmanlee posted a link to that over on the ANH After Ady thread someone should go in there and shoot some video or take some HD photos, they would possibly come in handy for projects like ROTJ:R.

It would be nice to avoid the dreaded flip-shot reused footage nonsense that made ROTJ seem a bit too much like OS BSG at times.

Thanks for posting the link again.

 

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#365696
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Info &amp; Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist
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Ripplin said:
Darth Lars said:
Bingowings said:

Perhaps someone should do the reverse of the Hayden insert at put Seb Shaw's ghost into Hayden's costume.

This idea makes soo much more sense than putting Haydens head in there.

Ah, but I can't help thinking of 'fat guy in a little coat! Fat guy in a little coat!' Haha. ;)

 

Imagine the coat a little bigger, being a ghost means never having to breath in or pop a seem.

 

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#365695
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The most godawful sequel?
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I finally got around to seeing Terminator 4 (just now) and to be honest I can't see what all the fuss is about.

In fact I think the first three quarters are maybe the best Terminator ever to be put onto film, it's only the final act where things get messed up and there I detect the hand of studio execs or preview screenings because the last act is so really messed up and the rest is so reverentially handled and well structured (well for a Terminator film) that I can't believe that was the plan from the very beginning.

It's certainly hard to believe that the guy who was so awful as Chekov in the much applauded and over-rated Star Trek reboot is so good as Kyle Reese here.

It was even more spooky than the virtual Arnie how close he emulated Michael Biehn's body language and mannerisms, I could really believe that he would one day grow up to be that person.

And while it ticked all the boxes it also flowed rather well, what was silly about it is what is silly about almost all Terminator films (why do the endoskeletons go around in the nude, surely they should go back to base and get a new skin when the old one gets blasted or worn off, why doesn't Skynet just engineer a virus to kill off humans or continue to crank up the radiation levels until humans drop down dead, why do they continue to have HUD displays all of which are in English?)

It's a much better film than 2 or 3 even with the muddled last quarter.

Terminator 4 is certainly not on my worst sequel list though I would love to see a re-edit.

There is a funny thing going on at the moment where not bad films are being shafted by critics, while so-so and even awful films are being praised to the hilt and the general public seem to be falling for it.

Clone Wars for all it's faults is nowhere near as bad as people were reporting it to be for example, where as Star Trek was just average.

I also didn't think that A Quantum Of Solace was that different in quality or style than Casino Royale yet one was praised and the other largely panned. The end of Casino Royale was just as nutty as the end of AQOS (both could sit well in a Roger Moore Bond,the end of CR could almost have been an outake from Moonraker) and what was great about CR was just as good in AQOS.

 

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#365662
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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A few of them look a bit too washed out from where I'm sitting (specifically the Tatooine and Naboo ones).

Removing the tints or creating interesting effects by changing the colour mix is one thing but those are almost monochrome.

There is a relationship between brightness/contrast and colour saturation, I don't know how you did these but on Photoshop I find it better to play with the colout filter and then nudge the other elements down or up until they look right.

Green tends to balance out pinks, Magenta tends to balance out blues but it's only a general rule.

The PT does seem to be too colourful for it's own good some of the time.

 

 

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#365652
Topic
STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
Time

The problem is compounded by ROTJ as it currently stands with Luke going back to Dagobah only to have Yoda tell him those few days training were all he needed and then dropping down dead mid sentence.

"Hi Mark, I'm getting on a bit, actually I'm just about to die, oh yeah we lied to you about your dad, kill him and your a Jedi....oh by the wa..yy...your hav..e ..a ...sis..ter.........."

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#365650
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The most godawful sequel?
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I loved all the main Resident Evil Games but the PS2 Outbreak games are awful.

I enjoyed Code Veronica a great deal (cross dressing Aryan wierdoes and women turning into ants, common! What's not to love?).

The films completely missed the mark, Resident Evil is about isolation, normally (you mostly follow one character and bump into a few others along the way) the big mistake with the films was to follow the horror cliche of having a group with the lead who get bumped off as the film progresses.

The Silent Hill film almost got it right but the huge exposition data dump buggered it up, Silent Hill is more like a David Lynch/Carnival Of Souls sort of scenerio where the narrative is deliberatly obscured in a dreamlike fashion so we didn't need any explanations. The only character in that film that should feel like a real person should have been Rose.

The Resident Evil films also forgot that giant animals are a major element in the games (it adds to that 1950's sci-fi vibe), where were the giant spiders, giant snakes, giant scorpions, giant centipedes, giant moths?

And where were the strange gothic environments?

There's a fan edit in there somewhere Anaconda, Eight Legged Freaks, Mimic, King Kong  even a few bits from The Fly II mixed in with all the the Resident Evil films and Legend Of Hell House might make for a really good Resident Evil film.

The film series didn't really work from the beginning so it's a bit off topic of me to have a dig at them on a sequel thread but the sad thing is that a really good Resident Evil film could be made.

Like Star Wars, Resident Evil is a compendium of ideas from other sources, mostly cinematic in nature so it should translate well back into cinema.

If you haven't seen it before this guy overeacting to Resident Evil 2 is hilarious (now with subtitles) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCTKIqfmiWo

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#365592
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Info &amp; Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist
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rcb said:

I think the reason GL put hayden in, was because he only wanted to experiment with it.

If he just wanted to experiment couldn't he have done it somewhere private (like a broken down toilet in a disused railway depot in Brazil) instead of in the as yet only official SE DVD release set?

Even as an experiment it's like something out of a really bad explotation movie (unrealistic head transplant).

I prefer the one in Mars Attacks!

 

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#365588
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The most godawful sequel?
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C3PX said:
Bingowings said:

Batman & Robin, oh my giddy aunt.

The only film I felt genuinely embarrised to be caught seeing was Caravan Of Courage (if only I had watched the thing drunk) but that's really a prequel I guess.

...

Battle For The Planet Of The Apes is also a sorry mess.

I'll thrown in my giddy aunt to for Batman & Robin. That is a movie I felt embarrassed to be caught seeing.

Caravan of Courage (which I am only pretty sure is another GL name retcon, as I owned the VHS at one point and remember it only being called Ewoks Adventure or something like that), is something I actually never felt was that awful. It is clearly made for children, and it is made for TV (only we Americans like to market our made for TV crap as cinema quality work in your country, Bingo. Kind of like your neighbor sending their kid over to bring you their leftovers in a shoebox, because they think you are poor. I'd protest if I were you. I don't suppose my country men are still that shameless, are they?). I always found it a really cool little fantasy style story told in the SW universe. Always reminded me of The Hobbit a great deal, not so much in story (though there are elements) but in style. Again, no fancy work of art, but as far as made for TV kids movies go, I find it pretty fair. Honestly, I'd much rather watch it and its sequel than any of the prequels.

And as much as I loved the Conquest for the Planet of the Apes (not saying it was good, just that I am personally very fond of it), Battle for the Planet of the Apes was a rather disappointing follow up.

The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles are something I have always really wanted to get into, but try as I might, have never actually managed to.

I just wish we got to see the Ewok Horror version of COC (as I shall now call it) and had the Ewoks eat the whole annoying family. I loath little girls in peril at the best of times....mostly but Cindel has to be the most annoying little bobble headed creature in Cinema (on this side of the pond at least) history.

I was one of those twisted gits who used to get the Zombies to vomit on Sherry Birkin for kicks so you can see this was not a film for me.

If one thing makes Ewoks look hard as nails it has to be some Helium filled balloon headed girl dressed like a post apocalyptic Jane Fonda fending off a rubber bird thing and a man in an ape suit with big ears who has programmed himself to be really big (only the Japanese can get away with that sort of thing, if they had thrown in Jet Jaguar I might have lightened up).