Bingowings

If the Bible was held as an excitingly strange book of myth as we now see Homer or Sophocles I wouldn’t have a problem with picking up a copy and just enjoying it as a piece of literature past and all (in fact this is how I see most religious films and I get a lot enjoyment out of them generally).
But as a guide book on how to run a modern society (which it is often seen as) I am less generous with it or the devotees that use it in this way.
People are very protective of scripture of all kinds because a large sway of the religious communities that use them see them as the unalterable and true testament of God or the Gods. It has a weight for them of being even higher than a scientific treaties or a political manifesto and as such is used to restrict the freedoms of people who don’t and will never believe this to be true.
So it’s fair to contextualise the time in which it was written, what then benefits of the rituals once were and how it’s highly probably not literally true just to counter the toxic effect of people who do fall for the whole shabang. And I would include scriptures of all kinds there including the oldest Hindu Veda to the most modern alien exorcism pamphlet from Church of BadScienceFictonology.org.

To not address what is going on in Coruscant is daft. The Republic being one one easy to destroy mega city would have been weak so while there was something quite daring in leading us to believe Hosnia was that big important PT location I’m glad in a way they didn’t demolish it but if the original Jedi temple exists it would have resonance for either the heroes or the villains to take ownership of the place where Anakin took his first steps into a much larger world, even if it does remind us of how boring and stupid and weird the mechanisms of the old republic were before the Emperor swept them away.

As much as I think Nationalism is a dangerous religion the American people have furnished the world with great philosophy, fine cuisine, beautiful and valuable art, generous charitable contributions and some of the nicest people I have ever met.
It is gifted with landscape of astonishing epic sweep and grandeur and I wish all American’s reading this a very happy collective birthday.
I still hope for an Independence day for my home patch, not for the flag or the dancing or the other local oddities but just to bring democracy closer to home.
Every country has an unfortunate aspect to it and hopefully you will give that a moment’s thought too while the red rockets glare.
Keep your pets in and handle your gunpowder safely and let the festivities be fun.

Warbler said:

If you want to argue about war, do it in another thread.

Warb each year you start another thread on this subject but the truth remains. While wars happen people will unnecessarily die. Not necessarily to defend freedom but because someone else orders it. That’s not heroic. It’s tragic. It should stop and if you want to build a shrine to the victims of war build it geographically or on a website without comment. This is a discussion forum and you can’t discuss the memory of the victims of war without discussing the morality or lack of morality of war.

Remembrance of war doesn’t ever make me happy. It makes me angry and sad and depressed.

yhwx said:

Maybe war is necessary for us.

It’s not necessary for me so please find another rock to do it on.

darth_ender said:

So it’s “love the sinner, hate the sin,” which has been identified as hypocritical and bigoted on this forum.

Considering the source is a group that has a tradition going back centuries of punishing the sinners with torture and death when the founding principle is being without sin before casting a stone and removing the plank from your own eye, it’s sort of odd to be used as retort against people who like some of the individuals who might say it but dislike aspects of the organisation that prompts them to.

Honestly just ditch the torture porn in your holy books denounce the torture, past, present and future and get on with being happy on Sunday or whatever day is special to you.

As a member of society If something someone is doing has a negative impact on society in general, it does hurt me so I can go through the legal process or lobby for legal change by all the means legally available to me.
But if I can’t see how it can effect society in general or myself specifically what right have I to even comment beyond general enquiry? It’s interesting to learn new things about people so asking questions is the best way to avoid prejudice which I personally find morally and ethically indefensible.
I have no objection to Orson Scott Card’s religious beliefs (they aren’t and never will be mine but if he finds comfort and value in them they are his and I would defend his right to keep them) and I liked his books until they were tainted by his bizarre political comments and political lobbying (which he is in his right to do as he would argue that ‘promoting’ homosexuality is bad for society in general of which he is a member) but I as a member and a former customer have every right as the injured party to act against him in the same manner. To protect my freedoms, express my disappointment and disgust to allocate my limited money to exciting new non-bigotted authors.
Sorry to repeat this is one example of how I balance morals, ethics and the legal rights of protest and withholding of future payment but it’s a good example I think of how my mind makes those sorts of judgements. Dead artists can neither be quizzed or slandered so it’s very difficult to gauge what they thought back then or how they would react in a modern contest. Ghosts can’t change their mind, sadly. They can’t personally benefit from my pocket money either so despite the rumours about HP Lovecraft I have no problem buying his books (especially from a charity shop). Thrift is a moral and ethical practise I approve of.

Trooperman37 said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

But no, GL just had to replace the voice. It was so incredibly important and necessary!!!

They’re his movies and he can do what he wants to with them.

(crosses arms stubbornly)

So if I buy the declaration of Independence I can eat it the fourth of July?

Morality is subjective and personal, ethics are codified by institutions and are situational, legality is dependent on the state. If you don’t like what someone does ask yourself how does this hurt me. If it obstructs your life adversely seek legal action. If the laws don’t exist lobby your representatives. If it doesn’t hurt you just leave it alone. Keep to your ethics and morals and let other people live their lives as they see fit. If you do stick your nose in expect to get a response you won’t like. People have every right to fight for and defend their freedoms.

darth_ender said:

Oooooh…I get it. It’s the atheist version of that “Hate the sin, love the sinner” thing. Caughtcha! How progressive!

Quoted for irony.

Dig those live hatless girls. Look at the upper ears on that… phroar.

The craziness of the ‘great war’ is it killed millions, leading to the Spanish Flu epidemic which killed millions, leading to second world war, which killed millions and the cold war that killed millions. We are essentially in perpetual war. All because of a small bunch of idiotic rich people playing real life D&D. Wouldn’t it just be simpler to plough our elites into the soil every few years and take all those millions of loved and missed lives to the stars where they belong? I declare a war on wars. If anyone comes to you trying to sell one that isn’t fictional tell them to bury themselves instead. It’s good for the soil and saves lots of grief.

DuracellEnergizer said:

If anyone’s an ass man, it’s me.

Were you bitten by a radioactive mule?

moviefreakedmind said:

There’s nothing wrong with either of them.

Ooooh Matron! 😄

yhwx said:

TV’s Frink said:

Does anime have to be bad?

Yes.

However if it is bad that doesn’t automatically make it anime, so we’re at a bit of a standoff here.

A girl can wear a hat, but not all girls wear hats.

Zoom for lurid details :

Neglify said:

Tyrphanax said:

Aw but I like Mark.

Ditto.

Bingo

I noticed some B5 figures going cheap on eBay so I put a bid in expecting to be out bid later but won the auction. As I am currently visiting folks in England, I asked them to be delivered here. Today my cousin turned up at the door with a box which I assumed to be a late, cheap and possibly ribald birthday present. It wasn’t it was my order. Of all the eBay sellers out there I had just ordered something from my own cousin.

Fett serves as a Mirror for Han’s progress ( in ESB he does). He is the anti-Han. George screwed that up in 1983. For me not having Vader as the saber wielding Jedi killer in the numbered prequels was a dumb move. I didn’t want to see Yoda and Palpatine bash sticks. I wanted to see what Ben was remembering when he talked about Vader hunting down and destroying the Jedi. Grevious should have been Vader. Anakin should have adopted the persona. Only without the stupid look and cough.

And don’t apologise. This thread is for helping each other. We wouldn’t read your comments if we didn’t care for your well-being.

yhwx said:

For those who are missing the joke:

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-imperialscum-Furiously-Doing-His-Taxes-Thread/id/49434/page/16
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-imperialscum-Furiously-Doing-His-Taxes-Thread/id/49434/page/17
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-imperialscum-Furiously-Doing-His-Taxes-Thread/id/49434/page/18
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-imperialscum-Furiously-Doing-His-Taxes-Thread/id/49434/page/19
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-imperialscum-Furiously-Doing-His-Taxes-Thread/id/49434/page/20
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-imperialscum-Furiously-Doing-His-Taxes-Thread/id/49434/page/21
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-imperialscum-Furiously-Doing-His-Taxes-Thread/id/49434/page/22

WRONG THREAD!

You could have wandered into a divergent universe. It happens all the time to me.

I’ve reported elsewhere noticing people using old mock-ups of mine in their articles or videos. There’s another one here 😃 https://youtu.be/abzD2Yxt2kY anyone else seeing ot.com stuff in unexpected places?

I promise my new found internet superstardom will not change me.

Anyone notice my death star mock-up being used? (9:54ish) This is the second article Ive seen use it now, which is fine but proves how popular these forums are. PS it’s not my favourite version if that mock-up but it’s their choice.