Bingowings

Possessed said:

Yeah sorry about that I thought you were fully asleep.

No apologies necessary 😋

Not so much a dream but last night I slept with my new dental splint in and it triggered a mild case of sleep paralysis. I got the sensation of someone getting into bed with me. It wasn’t entirely horrific.

TheFirmament said:

Bingowings
This is ROTJ:Revisited not ROTJ:Reinvented
lol

In my view ROTJ is almost as bad as the prequels.
In needs a full rebuild not a very beautiful remounting like the other two revisited installments.

G E Predator said:

Bingowings said:

G E Predator said:

I’m super glad that Ady is gonna remove “Jedi Rocks” and (hopefully) restore “Lapti Nek.” While I don’t hate “Jedi Rocks,” I feel it was disrespectful to remove “Lapti Nek” in the first place since it was composed by Joseph Williams, the son of John Williams. Imagine how pissed off Joseph must have been to have his only contribution removed from the movie.

Lapti Nek is pretty awful too.

The soundtrack version is pretty good 😃 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfyLDh_Ea3w

Each to their own but I find the original theatrical version to be more tolerable and less disco.

I quote this from the ‘saga’ thread.

Bingowings said:

I would start with the Executor dwarfing an already giant Star Destroyer and itself being engulfed in the shadow of the now large in screen second Death Star.

I would make the officers station look less stagey.

I would prefer a new actor to replace Michael Pennington (a fine actor only doing what he was told).

His Moff Jejerrod acts much too cowardly to hold such a high rank and his delivery is awful.

I would have him careful around Vader but not constantly camp and scared shitless. Vader acts demoted in most of this film and yet the opening scenes make his seem more feared than the Emperor.

I would also have him ask for more men to guard the moon (I’ll explain later), not build the station, (don’t they have droids for that?).

The next scene would be Dagobah.

Luke returned there after the events of the previous film and has been continuing his training.

He is constructing a new lightsaber using telekinesis. When he finishes he notices Yoda looking unwell (this can be done with a body double and a bit of digital jiggery pokery).

The Yoda death scene plays out largely as in the film but he doesn’t die. He tells Luke there is another Skywalker in a clear way and is still alive when Luke leaves.

Yoda dying mid-conversation is cornball and unconvincing.

Jabba’s palace, Booush arrives to a calm audience with the Hutt (no Threepio) it’s all done with subtitles.

Any efforts to tone down the cartoonish nature of some of the court would be most welcome.

Luke lands near Ben’s house.

The Falcon and a Y-Wing are also visible.

Luke calls out to Leia and Chewie, Threepio rushes up to meet him in a fuss, “I tried to stop her” etc.

Luke enters the house and Ben’s ghost tells him that Leia is his sister he resolves to rescue her.

Boba Fett leaves the palace and we see his ship take off near the palace.

Back at the palace Leia releases Han and gets captured.

Threepio and Artoo head to the palace, they are scanned by the robot eye thing, it seems to know something is up with Artoo but lets them in anyway.

The Palace is in party mood.

No song (no Lapti Nek or Jedi Rocks) but lots of exotic dance.

Leia is chained up.

Luke’s message is played.

Artoo and Threepio are lead away.

Threepio is put on translator duty.

Artoo attempts to interfere with 9D9 but she reassures him that it will not be necessary (someone is protecting them).

THERE IS NO COMEDY TORTURE SCENE.

Luke arrives,

HE DOESN’T CHOKE THE GUARDS.

He uses the Force to push the skull into position to activate the switch and kill the Rancor.

No crying Rancor Keeper.

Swoop bikes and mid sized barges added to the pit party.

The Sarlacc beak is removed but the mouth is bigger and the creature heaves itself from the sand (yes a bit like the sand worms in Dune but we all know where Lucas got the idea so let’s not kid ourselves).

It’s more active at grabbing people with it’s tendrils than in any other version.

Fett isn’t there so no air swim, Force Kick goes too.

Artoo uses his PT era jets to push Threepio to safety (no comedy magnets).

The barge snaps in half like that boat film with Leonardo DeCaprio.

We see Slave One approach the rebel fleet it lands and Fett gives something to a Rebel official.

He is paid and takes off.

He contacts Vader and informs him that the rebels have the information he supplied.

Vader tells him he will be paid.

Fett doesn’t die, gets paid twice and isn’t seen or heard of again (he is a bounty hunter a mercenary and doesn’t care who wins or loses as long as he is paid).

The Emperor arrives in a shuttle that looks more fancy than Vader’s.

The briefing happens. No medical droids need attend but it would be cool if Dodonna and Rieekan could be there.

I would also like more Wookiees.

Anything that can be done to make the room look less like a cheap set would be welcome.

No Bothan’s died to give us the information which is worth the price they paid.

Tydirium is an Imperial Transporter ship not a shuttle.

The Executor set is returned to it’s ESB glory and the uniforms and insignia are fixed.

When the Rebels land they walk by neglected/damaged wooden sculptures and/or totems.

They find the decapitated head of a stormtrooper which triggers the trap (Wookiees can eat human meat and not be cannibals).

All the pebble eyes of the Ewoks are gone as and less sweet looking teeth would be welcome.

At the village there are signs of dead imperials troops turned into art everywhere (now you can see why Jerjerrod needs more men).

A totem showing a god that looks like Threepio would be welcome.

Artoo uses his holoprojector to plaster scary faces (Maul etc) onto Threepio.

A floating chair alone would not be enough to spook them after all they have seen since the Empire landed (they have a new moon for crying out loud).

The Ewoks have already been planning an attack on the base (those traps don’t appear from nowhere).

When Luke asks about his mother Leia gives him the neckless Anakin made for Padme.

When he tells her she is his sister she knows somehow but she never "ALWAYS KNEW (that snogging was an accident).

The generator base now draws power from a large waterfall.

It is visable and the sound is audible when Vader confronts his son (this will evoke memories of Naboo and add to Vader’s inner turmoil).

He says, “Your Mother once thought as you do”.

The 'backdoor" to the base is now a funicular service elevator to the projector dish.

It takes the Rebels up, not down and leads to a structure under the dish which they plan to sever (there are too many reactor explosions in the saga as it is, we don’t need three in one film).

When Lando calls for the ships to pull back to avoid the shield, some miss and collide with it.

More featured pilots, more A-wing/B-Wing action maybe a really hot-rodded battered old Naboo fighter or two.

There really is an entire legion of troops on top of those you would expect to be guarding an important base.

The Rebels have brought guns with them and there are more of them thanks to the bigger ship (including Wookiees).

The AT-AT enters the ground battle and Tie Bombers set fires.

Troopers get killed with a bit of tasteful gore.

Ewoks are killed.

Leia getting shot is moved up to when Luke is trying not to think about her.

When Palpatine is trying to kill Luke the neckless rolls out of his tunic and Vader sees it.

This is the straw that snaps him back to the light side.

We see Palpatine fall face up and with a better matte.

The Executor gets a better send off.

The dish snaps and slides into the valley (it doesn’t blow up half the forest).

The, “Cop-Pee-Gold-Lee-Dar” guy is gone.

Leia and Han watch the station explode sitting in the remains of the giant dish.

Luke burns the body of Vader.

We see the ghosts of Ben and the Yoda (we now know he has died).

We then see the ghosts of Padme and Anakin (Anakin’s subconscious good has restored him and preserved the people he loves not a too busy to show up Liam Neeson),

Our heroes celebrate.

“Weesa Free!” is not the last line of the first six films.

The Corsucant ‘celebrations’ are a riotous uprising. X-wings swoop from the sky and shoot down TIEs.

G E Predator said:

I’m super glad that Ady is gonna remove “Jedi Rocks” and (hopefully) restore “Lapti Nek.” While I don’t hate “Jedi Rocks,” I feel it was disrespectful to remove “Lapti Nek” in the first place since it was composed by Joseph Williams, the son of John Williams. Imagine how pissed off Joseph must have been to have his only contribution removed from the movie.

Lapti Nek is pretty awful too.

Warbler said:

Bingowings said:

Final, Final day at my current job today.
It feels weird.
I did two ten hour shifts this week to clear my desk. So now I’ve kind of run out of things to do but a co-worker who is also leaving today and myself are really not sure what is happening next. very strange 😄

I hope you are moving to a new and better job and not getting fired or something like that.

The funding for our service came to an end and the organisation I have been in secondment to dragged their feet putting in funding bids. So I haven’t been sacked, my employers were very pleased with my contribution but I haven’t got anything to move onto. I’ve made lots of applications but nothing successful yet. To cap it off my partner has decided to move in the spring. He owns the house but I own the contents so that’s a added layer of stress I could do without at the moment.

Oops!

I wish I had the time and patience to replace Brando and DeNero with the CGI Jabba circa 1997. Now that would be a trilogy worth watching.

Jani-wan said:

iamweasel said:

Bingowings said:

It’s a real shame about PT:R. These were the revisited projects I was most looking forward to. They are even more broken than Jedi. Hopefully someone else will take up the mantle. There is good them, I have felt it 😊 even if Rouge One was part3 of a PT:R. So much technical talent and genuine affection from people who worked on those Star Wars misshapes. It’s a shame if they stayed as they are.

Well, if we are lucky, Disney will do a cool Darth Vader movie where we can see him chasing the remaining Jedis across the galaxy. If they do a cool movie, you can consider Rogue One as Episode 3, this Darth Vader movie as episode 2 and someone can try to edit ROTS (with maybe some (few) scenes from the episode 1 or 2) to be the first episode, removing most of it flaws. This way we can have a prequel that doesn’t contradict anything that was said in the OT.

I was hoping for a Phantom Manace revisited too. That movie could be turned into a good movie too, with some adjustments. (by removing Jar-jar, and fixing Threepio mostly)
But this discussion is for another thread I guess. (I have no idea which one though)

I do not trust Disney anymore. First they made a terribly bad, than a mediocre movie, so they are 0 for 2 right now. Im afraid a cool Disney Star Wars movie is unrealistic expectation at this point.

There is so much potential in PT:R. The PT is so broken in its current form that there are no sacred cows. And yet there are so many wonderful designs and a few nice performances just waiting to be liberated. To be frank this news is almost 1983 all over again, for me personally. Naturally I support and respect Adys decisions. A man must know his limits but it was the possibility of finally enjoying the first three episodes that really interested me much more than reworking the first two movies which are pretty much flawless anyway. At least Jedi is getting fixed. But the real problems with Jedi are the same problems the PT has. The story is lacklustre, the performances are patchy, the visuals are inconsistent. Disney will never repair the PT. Hopefully Adys achievements will inspire someone else.

It now seems like Ady isn’t going to attempt the prequels. I hope someone else pulls them apart and reconstructs them with that same level of attention to detail because as much as just editing alone has improved them. These are the first three episodes. Something I waited form 1983 to 1999 to experience and there is only so much that remixing can do to rectify the disappointment. It would take something of an Adywan scale to fix them. It would be a shame if threads like these went to waste.

Dat_SW_Guy said:

That was supposed to be a weird “George Lucas-esque” post, but I got a reasonably fair answer 😕

Sorry it’s been a difficult week.

It’s a real shame about PT:R. These were the revisited projects I was most looking forward to. They are even more broken than Jedi. Hopefully someone else will take up the mantle. There is good them, I have felt it 😊 even if Rouge One was part3 of a PT:R. So much technical talent and genuine affection from people who worked on those Star Wars misshapes. It’s a shame if they stayed as they are.

BANG!

If people keep making suggestions this edit will never get finished.

Dat_SW_Guy said:

Why can’t anyone do the lightning trick?

Well for starters it spoils the ending of Return of the Jedi if we know Palpatine is always able to rain electric death on anyone anytime but it also weakens him if other people can do his tricks.

doubleofive said:

The entire thread is one big forum.

They form a symbiont rhombus.

Postio Doublio

Postio Triplio

Final, Final day at my current job today.
It feels weird.
I did two ten hour shifts this week to clear my desk. So now I’ve kind of run out of things to do but a co-worker who is also leaving today and myself are really not sure what is happening next. very strange 😄

Making the guards fall asleep has a nice fairy tale quality to it.
In my view Vader chokes people because he can’t breath nobody else should do that.
Only Palpatine should do the lightning trick too.
I can see why people disagree but it just keeps these signature moves signature.
Leia choking Jabba and joking Lando by proxy however I do approve of so colour me a hypocrite 😄

I had to dispatch war rocket Ajax.

I think I got the carousel spinning. My Gordon had died.

Forgive me if this has been mentioned before but the means to getting TFA Restructured don’t seem to be active or functioning (either Toronto or Detroit Lollipop Carousel).
I’ve tried all the stuff on Infowars (DAMN YOU ALEX JONES). Is there another way?

ray_afraid said:

Bingowings said:

Having Luke do it (force choke) does foreshadow his darkside potential as does Leia choking Jabba but it’s just seems too dark for a Jedi move.

Seems too dark for a Jedi move because it’s foreshadowing his potential fall to the dark side.
Didn’t you just say that? 😉

Yeah but how does he learn to do it? Is it an instinctive thing? Because it hardly feels like something Yoda would teach him.