Beber

So, another year later, any news on this?

So, 2 years later, are there any news on this?

Thanks for your report, RU.08. Looks like this is another nail in Cameron’s so-called “revisionism” coffin, as The Abyss remaster we all have since 2014 is very much faithfull to what the 70mm I saw last summer looks like, as well.

I’ve made French subtitles for this specific version, based on the originals, meaning before they were poorly remade for the DVD. Whomever is interested can PM me.

“Mint condition” as in “excellent condition”, like “as good as brand new”? Jeez! “Die Hard” and “Last Crusade”? Count me in for both.

Croweyes1121 said:

Beber said:

I haven’t burned it. It plays glitchy on this shot (see link below) on both MPC and my Zappiti 4K HDR mediaplayer.

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This is still in v2.0. Its obviously an issue of something specifically just not playing nice with Premiere’s export. I even tried upping the bitrate substantially and just outputting this sequence…comes out pixelated every time. Ah well. Not worth sweating over a few seconds. Definitely peculiar, though.

Damn! That sucks. 'Cause the glitch is definitely not there on the logo-free open matte version I have:
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Nor it is on a scope “hdtv” recording of the SE I have:
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Maybe the solution could be to cut it out, working on it seperately, and then cutting it back in. I don’t know, just thinking out loud…

What’s the status on PayPal’s fee within the Euro zone now? When I participated in the “Face/Off” and “Titanic” projects, I seem to remember the fees were rather insignificant. I actually don’t have a PayPal account, so I just transferred money from my bank account to the one of a fellow member here, also in the Euro zone, who then used his PayPal account. Yeah, we jumped through some hoops, but in the end, it worked. I’m willing to help here, but I don’t want 25% to be wasted.

I haven’t burned it. It plays glitchy on this shot (see link below) on both MPC and my Zappiti 4K HDR mediaplayer.

https://www.zupimages.net/up/18/24/97hf.jpg

Croweyes1121 said:

I’ve just posted my own edit of the Special Edition over at myspleen.

And thank you for that. I just watched it entirely. If you’re okay for feedback as I read you were considering a V2, here you go. Even though it’s pretty good, there’s still margin for improvement. The lower definition in the SE parts will always give it away, but color matching, brightness and contrast of those scenes, especially when they’re just extended parts of pre-existing scenes could benefit from additional tweaking to better blend in. I mean there are look-alike shots that don’t resemble quite enough with each other to better sell the illusion. I also noticed a glitch at 02:15:31 on the ISO Blu-ray. And on a side note, I wish the full bitrate DTS from the Chinese DVD was used instead of the regular AC3.

Damn! Even my Zappiti One 4K HDR player plays the UHD 2160p 4K77 in a jerky way. I’d never have thought that could happen since it allows very high bitrate. The audio plays smoothly, but the video, damn! I’ll have to stick to the 1080p for now. My TV is 1080p for now anyway. I also noticed that the blacks were not as black on the 2160p, but it’s probably the 10-bit stuff on my full HD TV only that causes that. The 1080p looks quite terrific. Thanks guys!

From this Friday (the 20th of October) evening and there probably will be a few reruns, “The Force Awakens” will air on the Disney Cinema channel in France. I can’t be sure it will be full screen with the IMAX sequence in open matte, but you never know. Sadly, this is one of the channels that protects their programs so I cannot transfer the recording to my computer. So this is just a heads-up for those who can record it and extract it from their recording devices, if any.

EDIT : nevermind, it’s in scope.

I can participate also. The movie is mostly meh, but the Blu-ray is overscrubbed, overfiltered and has digital Yoda. A 1999 filmlike aspect would be appreciated for sure.

That’s interesting, Rockin, as I’ve seen a 35mm print in Paris, France, most likely from back then in 1999 since there never was a rerealease in France, and as it turns out, the 35mm print was lookking like the Blu-ray with less green here and there, and definitely the interrogation scene. So this Amazon version you’re talking about might be the good stuff.

Any plans on doing the same with the 2.35:1 2D Blu-ray?

I dig it, Dek Rollins. Should be even better using the WOWOW broadcast instead of the Blu-ray.

Has anybody seen it in an IMAX theater with a varying aspect ratio? My screening was in a digital IMAX with 1.90 AR screen that desperately stayed in 2.40 from start to finish, just like “Logan”, “Rogue One”, “Jack Reacher Never Go Back” and “Spider-Man Homecoming”. I hate these stupid LIE MAX screenings.

Have you edited out the end of the scene with Rose and Cal discussing the Mauritania comparison with the Titanic? Right after “luxurious”, a whole piece is missing that’s on the Blu-ray. Cal talks to Rose’s mother and makes his guy taking care of their lugage, and then the whole family embarks. Your sample cuts right after “luxurious”. That’s odd.

Okay, so now, after 3 viewings of the 35mm, I managed to take pictures until the bar scene near the end.
For the rest, I compared with the 2000 color timing and the 2010 Blu-ray. The conversation scene of John Doe and his lawyer behind the glass is different from both: it’s cooler in 35mm with a shade of pink on Doe’s convict uniform. The sunset scenes around 7:00 o’clock look more like the Blu-ray while in the car. Then, it looks more like the 2000 DVD but warmer with the darkness of the Blu-ray. And the epilogue with Mills arrested in the backseat of the copcar and Somerset and the captain discussing him is a lot closer to the 2000 DVD with the dominant yellow. The 2010 Blu-ray is way too dark in the end.

take a look at the comparison for the whole movie:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/216927

That’s night and day! I wish you’d do the same whole movie comparison for “The Dark Knight” using the same process to resurrect the blues and teals. It might finally look the way I saw it on gorgeous DCP.

I’ve just watched the Blu-ray, and I’d say it’s dark enough but has better definition so you can see more details, like the 3rd arm of the sloth victim that you would have to know is there to notice on 35mm. The end-end with the captain and Somerset until the last shot with the Hemingway quote is actually way too dark on Blu-ray. On 35mm, it looked more like the 2000 Newline DVD Platinum. Overall I’d say the 35mm is in between the 2000 DVD and the Blu-ray. It would be interesting to see how it would look using the darkness of the Blu-ray and the color timing of 2000 that is presented on the Dutch Blu-ray. If one of you colormatch wizzards feels like it…

Here are some pictures taken just yesterday in Paris, France, during a 35mm screening. I have many more as I pretty much covered all the shots of the first 3 reels before my battery ran out on my iPhone 4. These were taken with HDR enabled. I can attend to another screening wednesday evening, so I’ll try to cover the rest of the movie.

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I was shocked to see how dark the movie was. And I thought the Bluray was too dark. Not at all. In fact It’s still too bright. Colorwise, the film was mostly brown with a touch of gold. It felt warm. Except for the office scene between the captain and Somerset, that was colder and greener, I’d say. Generally, it looked different from every color timing I’ve seen on DVD or Blu-ray. Oddly, when switching some pictures to the neutral “none” setting on the iPhone app instead of the “transfer” setting, it resembles the New Line Platinum/Metropolitan DVD from 2000/2001. But with “transfer” on, it matches more what I actually saw projected. Most notably on the stomac shot and the fingerprint lab guy.

I know all that, but it doesn’t seem to be the actual original 1999 color timing. I’ll ask the Cinémathèque what year their print is from.

I thought so, too. Now I’m pretty sure that it is not.

Okay, so I just got back from a 35mm screening of “The Matrix” in the French Cinémathèque in Paris, France. It had French subtitles and I am not aware of any rerelease of the movie, so it was most likely a print from 1999. And I was shocked to see that the Blu-ray is actually not that far from being alike in terms of color grading. It’s not accurate in every part, that’s for sure, but man, the 1st color grading we’ve seen on video back in the day is dead wrong, and it was not the same as the 35mm scan released by our pals here either. Some parts looked alike, that’s for sure, but the Blu-ray also in other parts. And when toying with the color temperature on my TV screen from medium to warm and sometimes the other way around, I manage to closer match the Blu-ray with what I’ve just seen in 35mm.

So HP1 is a full 16/9 version that’s actually part open-matte, part zoomed-in reframed shots.