There are gorgeous shots in some of the trailers also. At least one of them went too far in colors though.
Then, “three of a kind”, let’s do this! I’m excited with this. Have you already color corrected the night shot of Batman on top of a building hearing the Joker on the police radio about “Harvey Dent” being on 8th and Orchard Street? I’m wondering how it looks on your screener. On the DCP I saw twice in about one week, the night blue was a gorgeous cyan.
I wish you’d keep the IMAX scenes in full 16/9 and/or the entire movie in 2.40:1. Even though it’s not the actual full frame of the IMAX shots, when watching on a widescreen TV, going from 2.40:1 to 1.33:1 is rather odd. That’s what has been made on the recent release on the spleen, and even though it’s a nice bonus version to have in our collection, it’s kind of weird and not really a go-to version (it had the theatrical DTS track though!). It would be great if we were still in the 4/3 TV era, but we’re not. The expansion value of the IMAX scenes, I think, relies on the filling of our screens. That’s what’s supposed to happen anyway in an IMAX theater, and most of these theaters crop more than our TVs (1.90:1 vs. 1.78:1). Plus, not all IMAX shots are available in glorious HD. The recent spleen release used DVD upscales here and there, and it clearly shows.
Is “deleted” an obligation? 'Cause “Jaws the Revenge” used the same exact shot from the original “Jaws” for the sinking dying shark in the end.
You also have that kind of stuff in “Transformers 2”, which reused shots from “Transformers”. Just watch the Honest Trailer on this one ; they even reused a shot from earlier in the same movie, only color corrected. And shots of the freeway from “The Island” by the same Michael Bay were reused in “Transformers 3”, only they added giant robots in it.
“Can be done”, well, not quite, because of this:
The same thing happened to the “Empire” scan. It was not in 2.20:1 all the way. It varies.
Okay, now that I’ve seen the full 14 minutes and 52 seconds, I have a couple observations about cropping. Granted, this is a test scan and not the final rendering.
The test scan is 1920x804, so 2.39:1. I believe the film was shown in 2.35:1, so this might be a bit overcropped. However, I noticed that on the bottom, a couple times, there is a whitish border line that might indicate that a 2.20:1 open matte version would be ugly. So maybe the final 2.35:1 cropping could be a little more cropped on the bottom and a little less on the top to compensate. See this picture below: (I have no idea how to post a picture on that forum!)
Also, it might be overcropped on the left side and not enough on the right side, cause we sometimes see some black border on the right, and the title card is not well centered in the frame:
All in all, that project looks promising, so count me in. I’ll give my contribution.
Will this new project further delay the completion of the “Face/Off” one?
It opens with the Paramount logo, rather than the Fox one. Is this a US release?
Most certainly. That was my conlusion as well. In Europe (France for myself), it’s a 20th Century Fox movie.
I know it was shot in Super 35, that’s why I’m asking what the status of the print is. So, no chance to have an open matte release out of it when it will be scanned. That would have been a cool addition.
Do we already know if there are missing frames ? Maybe at reel changes? I’m willing to help but I would be disappointed if there were “holes” in the movie like in the “Raiders of the Lost Ark” scan.
I can’t really tell based on the picture of the reel, looking at the Paramount logo, so I’ll just ask: is this print open matte or anamorphic?
That’s right, “The Matrix” was released in 1999, in the pre-digital color grading era. Actually, just one year before as, if I remember correctly, “O’Brother, Where Art Thou?” (2000) was the first movie to be digitally color graded. Now, the two sequels were color graded in the digital era, and then, the Wachowskis went back to color grading the first movie to match its sequels. The second film scan, from which we can see some pictures above, is probably from a rerelease for trilogy marathons. During production of “The Matrix”, the way the green was introduced in the Matrix scenes was done on set: lighting, set designs, green paint on the walls, green fruits on the street market, etc. Even if the Wachowskis had this idea from de beginning, they just couldn’t do it the way they wanted in the pre-digital era.
Okay, then. So wheels are in motion, things are in progress.
Any news on this one?
Thanks for the screenshots. I really like what I see. I think the ending credits should really be green though, and not white with a green border. Also, too much green was removed from the end corridor.
I have read some comments from a guy who, after seeing “the 35mm scratched edition”, said he was glad to see the blues like he saw them in the theater, and that he was distrurbed to see all that green on DVD – and he probably even meant the first DVD, which was way less green than the current color grading.
I’d like to see some screenshots of :
- Trinity on the rooftop at the beginning.
- Thomas Anderson in his boss’ office (especially his boss in front of the window to see the background city and sky).
- Thomas Anderson interview with Agent Smith.
- The blue pill/red pill shot.
- The dojo.
- The breakfast scene.
- The Oracle kitchen.
- Inside the Nebuchadnezzar, maybe the scene when they discuss pulling the plug on Morpheus (to see the blues).
- The lobby scene.
- The end corridor scene (Neo grabbing the bullets in midair).
- The end credits (to see the color).
That looks pretty good. The pictures are a little too small so we can have a better idea on the blacks, the odd seamingly white text in the ending credits etc., but still, that looks good. I would definitely be interested in seeing the Blu-ray regraded to match the 35mm print.
Booh ! I already seen it monday night in Paris in conclusion of a marathon event : “Alien”, “Aliens”, “Prometheus” and “Covenant”. Go for it, it’s pretty cool. Have “Prometheus” fresh in your mind, though.
Actually, I’m not sure it needs more squishing. I did my own encode in 2.35 and it seems alright. When watching with VLC we can also apply a 2.35 crop and see what’s what, and that seems okay to me.
Actually, it appears to me that it will not be that simple to keep an audio track in sync, since there are a couple of differences with Despecialized 2.0. Remember Harmy had to delete one frame at the reel change near the end of the movie (between Vader falling down and Luke following him to a circle hatch opening) in order to keep Hairy_Hen’s audio in sync. Also, there was an extra frame in the beginning in DE 2.0 that required a +42 ms offset.
Looks promising. However, when you tweak with colours, the black bars are affected. Maybe you should crop them out while you’re working on it and then add some real black ones. Just a thought.
Also, the aspect ratio looks a bit off to me. Doesn’t it?
Edit : now that I’ve compared with the actual Grindhouse, I see that you have more picture on top of the Solo frame. So you’re not in 2.35:1. You might be a little too much open-matte. And still wondering about some proportion issues: Leia looks thin to me.
I don’t have “Timeline”. I don’t even know what that movie is. Never heard of it… and now that I see what the hell it is on IMDB, I’m not at all interested in seing it.
“Alien 3” Italian track decodes to DTS normally on my equipment.
Have you kept all your “Alien Fundamental” releases Blu-ray sync friendly so that we can mux-in any track we want? If so, I can mux-in the Blu-ray English track from my own Blu-ray of “Alien 4”.
Why not putting this one on the Spleen so that anyone can get it and do whatever they want with it?
I noticed an issue on “Alien 3” : the French dub starts okay but during the movie, it goes way out of synch. As if there was a confusion between the two cuts. I have not tried it yet, but if this is a perfect Blu-ray sync match frame for frame, I can mux-in the track from my own Blu-ray to repair this on my side.
Another issue, on “Alien Resurrection” : the English audio track doesn’t work at all on my Dune HD Max and my 5.1 home-theater. It plays on my PC though. I don’t get it. I know it’s the theatrical DTS, which is cool to have and I wish you had put it lossless DTS HDMA, but oddly, all the other tracks work except this one. It’s not the first theatrical DTS track I’ve tried to listen to with my equipment, and usually, it works: “Jurassic Park”, “Star Wars 1997”, “The Matrix”, “The Dark Knight”…
Well, when regraded to the 16mm, the sky still has a shade of cyan, and C-3PO retains a golden brass shade. All that plus the dark shadows, contrast, etc. feel more like film than the regrading attempt on the previous page, missa think.