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- Batman Forever - Dark Knight Edition (Released)
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Thank goodness I saved my money there!
Thank goodness I saved my money there!
edskizzorhands said:Interesting, BB could be be more specific on what part of Goldeneye shows that Bond has been out of a job since LTK? I've seen the film several times and didn't ever catch that
The original plan was for Warhead to be set in 1993.
As for using Detonator 2 at all, I doubt it. Brosnan does not even remotely resemble bond in that film, Mostly due to the long hair and stash.
Bond goes through an evaluation at the beggining of the film by that woman the female M sent. The script very specifically said that he was being evaluated so he could return to the Agency. And the flashback itself is set BEFORE The Living Daylights, because they felt setting it after Licence to Kill wouldn't be as appropriate. Why? Because Bond had just left, thats why.
I would advise you to consider to set it at the mid-80's, and have it serve as the CR of the Dalton-Brosnan entries, if you catch my drift. Plus, that way you can use an excuse to not have Brosnan say "Bond... James Bond", by building up to it.
BUT, its your re-edit, and whatever you decide to do is your choice.
I'll be just as happy with a new Brosnan Bond.
I say this, because GE directly adresses that Bond hasn't been on the service for a number of years, namely, the years between LTK and GE. When Bond quit on LTK, he quit for good. Until GE, that is.
Thus why the pre-title sequence pre-dates the Dalton movies - to explain the behaviour Bond was at at the Dalton movies, and to signify that after LTK, Bond was no Agent.
Got it now?
Plus, with WARHEAD you have a good chance to introduce Bond as one with no history or connection to the Connery/Moore one.
You know, I think it'd be best if this re-edit was structured as if it were a Bond film, prior to the Dalton ones. That way, it'd be WARHEAD, the Dalton ones, and then the four Brosnan ones.
What do you think?
OK, I asked him to send the re-edit to me, he sad OK, but when I told him I live in Greece, he said "shit, you lvie in Greece? Uhhhh.. Hmmm."
Those precise words. I've been trying to reach him since, but he doesn't respond to any of the e-mails I sent.
Its been two days the above, last message, btw.
Right now, I have asked him. We'll see how it goes from there.
Also, I can verify what DrakeRetro said, as I've talked to the ebay seller, and he confirms all the above info - but it is not a fan edit that was publisized either here or on fanedit.org. It is a previously unknown one.
If DrakeRetro says its not the TDKE, then its not. But it is something that is close to what that edition tried to do.
Mitch said:I think we need a talented fan editor to step up and cut something as close to the original cut as possible using the deleted scenes.
I have discussed this with my team and we are interesed in and edit. I have begun to start putting together DVDs, and to obtain other footage. Keep in mind it took me over a year (EACH) get all the footage and material we needed for the Highlanders and Dune. Right now we are working on Superman - The Movie - then two other projects. BUT after that it's a possibilty.
What we would want to do would be to get together (in email format) with someone who has saw this edit. If we are to truely re-create this edit (or close to it) then we will have to start with discussions with people who have scene it.
To do Batman Forever JUSTICE is what we would be looking for. Nothing can take away from an actuall official released verion of a film but we can attempt ( LIKE DUNE AND THE HIGHLANDERS) to create a WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN!
So, like Highlander, Dune, Supeman, Superman II, Kong, I will need your help.
I have purchased the Batman Forever - Special Edition
What else alternate footage, audio, etc, is out there that we can get our hands on?
I heard something about the blue screen ending? Were is this footage? Is their footage in trailers also? I want to get all this stuff together so that when we do start we will be ready to go. Again, this is a future project, we are already working on a ton of things right now so don;t expect TODAY, lol! Everyone knows Phineasbg and our edits soemtimes take a year to complete. BTW!! DUNE - THIRD STAGE IS offically done, thanks god, lol!
Thanks
Are you interested in using some of my ideas? I have them posted in this thread, someplace...
Yeah, but he's nowhere to be found.
Damn it, why can't this re-edit see the light of day? Its almost what I would've done with BF... Sounds godly and all, and its nowhere to be found.
... Its frustrating, isn't it?
edskizzorhands said:As stated before, The original post said the runtime was 125 mins, even with the deleted scenes put back in, there is no WAY 30 mins were removed for TDKE. Also from doing some research on this recently, I don't think the intention was to make Batman Forever a Tim Burton film, but rather too make it feel like part of the series in connection to the other 2 films. There is no doubt BF lost a a great deal by not having Elfman's Bat theme.
The film as is is 125 minutes, and perhaps by deleting 30 minutes, he added those 30 minutes from the deleted scenes. Who knows, really?
I'll be downloading Paulisdead2221's edit, so I'll see for myself what are we talking about.
Here's what a cached info says:
This rare cut of Batman forever features the following differences from the regular mass marketed version:
-30 minutes removed
-New scenes (Bruce in the Cave with the Giant Bat, Bruce thinking about quitting, Bruce talking to Dick in the Weight room) etc...
-Danny Elfmans score is back in the movie! His classic dark theme for Batman has returned!
-The Vegas like Gotham is gone!
-Added some filters on the video to removed pink and red colors and replaced with a dark bluish tint
-Lots of the corny dialogue from Riddler and Two Face is removed
-New Opening (Two face escapes arkham)
-New Credits, matching Batman (1989 and Batman Returns)
-New Ending: A view of Gotham City with Batman at the top of a building, ala the previous two batman films.
Seems to be it.. Don't it?
It was on ebay?!
Damn!!!! I would've bought it for sure!
Why didn't the seller torrent it and be over with it?
You're right, and I'm sorry. I just get impatient some times, and I don't mean to sound or be pushy.
Well?
But no questions answered!
Thanks chief...
Well? Any help?
Does anyone know where can I find this preservation 2-disk transfer of the LD to the DVD? I was wondering, because I read a lot about the project a year or so ago and I kinda love the film and want it for my collection.
So? Does anyone know anything?
Another Bond with Brosnan? I'm on it!
I'd love to see this re-edit! If there is anyway you could expand it from 30 min. to a full hour, that would be great.
Did you consider, though, to have this film play out as a sequel to DAD? Or is it too obvious its pre-GE?
I haven't seen the original film thats edited, of course.