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Post
#69625
Topic
***The "official" Screenshots feedback thread ***
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/69625/action/topic#69625
Time
Patience padawan... all great things come with time

Actually, the screnshots I have posted so far are from ANH and Zion is focussing his efforts mostly on ESB at the time so I don't have anything to post just yet.

That being said... expect a similar ESB screenshot fest coming later in the week and yes, this round will include shots from Zion's work

Zion, is this okay with you?
Post
#69623
Topic
***The "official" Screenshots thread ***
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/69623/action/topic#69623
Time
As has been pointed out in the feedback thread, our "official" Screnshots thread is sadly missing some shots of Zion's latest work. Never fear, this is coming soon.

The screnshots I have posted so far are from ANH and Zion is focussing his efforts mostly on ESB at the time so I don't have anything to post just yet. Darnit

That being said... expect a similar ESB screenshot fest coming later in the week and as long as Zion is cool with it, this round will include shots from Zion's latest work
Post
#69580
Topic
***The "official" Screenshots thread ***
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/69580/action/topic#69580
Time
As many of you may have noticed, the OT forum is going through some changes, hopefully for the best

I am sure you have noticed the "official" project and project feedback threads. The purpose of these threads is to pull all the vital information about such projects into one thread to make the information easy to find. This will ensure that you don't have to wade through 90+ pages in the "Bootlegs" thread to find out what source was used for this DVD set and whether or not another set is anamorphic.

Along with this new "organizing" of project information, Rik and I have decided that an "official" screenshots thread was needed. This will be your one stop shop to view screenshots of all the most popular transfers as well as shots from ongoing projects such as MeBeJedi and Zion.

The following screenshots include screen grabs from the following transfers:

* George Lucas "Official" Extra Special Edition
* Dr Gonzo - DVD-5 - Anamorphic - "Definitive Collection" LD Set
* Farsight - DVD-5 - Anamorphic - "Definitive Collection" LD Set
* Moth3r - DVD-5 - Anamorphic - "Faces" LD Set (PAL)
* Cowclops/TR47 1.0 - DVD-5 - Letterboxed - "Definitive Collection" LD Set
* Cowclops/TR47 2.0 - DVD-5 - Anamorphic - "Definitive Collection" LD Set
* ISOMIX - DVD-5 - Letterboxed - "Definitive Collection" LD Set
* MeBeJedi - DVD-5 - Letterboxed - Work In Progress - "Faces" LD Set
* Look - DVD-5 - Letterboxed - Special Edition LD Set
* Zion - DVD-9 - Anamorphic - Abandoned Project - "Faces" LD Set

That being said, lets get on to the screenshots


STAR WARS - A NEW HOPE

http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th001.jpg << Shot 1 | .......... http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th002.jpg << Shot 2 | .......... http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th003.jpg << Shot 3 |

http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th004.jpg << Shot 4 | .......... http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th005.jpg << Shot 5 | .......... http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th006.jpg << Shot 6 |

http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th007.jpg << Shot 7 | .......... http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th008.jpg << Shot 8 | .......... http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th009.jpg << Shot 9 |

http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th010.jpg << Shot 10 | ..........http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th011.jpg << Shot 11 | ..........http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th012.jpg << Shot 12 |

http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th013.jpg << Shot 13 | ..........http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th014.jpg << Shot 14 | ..........http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th015.jpg << Shot 15 |

http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th016.jpg << Shot 16 | ..........http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th017.jpg << Shot 17 | ..........http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th018.jpg << Shot 18 |

http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th019.jpg << Shot 19 | ..........http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th020.jpg << Shot 20 | ..........http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th021.jpg << Shot 21 |

http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th022.jpg << Shot 22 | ..........http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th023.jpg << Shot 23 | ..........http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th024.jpg << Shot 24 |

http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th025.jpg << Shot 25 | ..........http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th026.jpg << Shot 26 | ..........http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th027.jpg << Shot 27 |

http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th028.jpg << Shot 28 | ..........http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th029.jpg << Shot 29 | ..........http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th030.jpg << Shot 30 |

http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th031.jpg << Shot 31 | ..........http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th032.jpg << Shot 32 | ..........http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th033.jpg << Shot 33 |

http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th034.jpg << Shot 34 | ..........http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th035.jpg << Shot 35 | ..........http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/thumbs/th036.jpg << Shot 36 |


One thing I want to point out is that the MeBeJedi screenshots are from an early "screener" version and do not accurately reflect his latest efforts. MBJ, if you can send me some updated screenshots from the exact scenes above I will update this post to reflect your latest efforts. Thanks

*** EDIT - 10-05-2004 [Begin] ***
New screenshots from an early "screener" of Zion's ANH transfer were added today, 10-05-2004. Please note these are from an early transfer... but man they look sweet

You may notice that I switched the order of the screenshots above. I am now listing them in order of anamorphic to letterboxed transfers for ease in viewing. The "letterboxed" versions look a little squeezed because of their 4:3 "letterboxed" presentation and do not match proportionately to their anamorphic counterparts.

I also made shure Zion and MeBeJedi's screenshots were grouped together since they are ongoing projects... and so that we can pick on them
*** EDIT - 10-05-2004 [End] ***

*** EDIT - 10-20-2004 [Begin] ***
Today I updated Zion's screenshots with images from his newest transfer. I also re-ordered the shots to move Zion just below the "official" Lucas transfer for easier comparison.

Zion, your latest round of screenshots did not include a grab of the scene in "Shot E" listed above. If you can provide me with a shot of that scene I'll update it here. Thanks
*** EDIT - 10-20-2004 [End] ***

*** EDIT - 10-29-2004 [Begin] ***
Today I added screenshots from Farsight's ANH transfer. You will notice that I am continuing to group shots based on the type of transfer; Anamorphic and then 4:3 Letterbox. This is being done to make the pictures easier on the eyes... hope it helps.
*** EDIT - 10-29-2004 [End] ***

*** EDIT - 10-29-2004 [Begin] ***
Updated all Farsight ANH images. As Tikigod pointed out, my images were way too bright and washed out. I was using PowerDVD and PhotoShop for my screenshots before and now I am using VirtualDubMod and PhotoShop. The Farsight images should be correct now. Thanks Tikigod for pointing this out.
*** EDIT - 10-29-2004 [End] ***

*** Zion EDIT - 12-12-2004 [Begin] ***
The Official Screenshots thread has overgone a major overhaul and there are now 36 comparrison shots from Star Wars. All screenshots were made using VirtualDubMod and Photoshop except for the MeBeJedi shots. Thanks Moth3r for providing screenshots from your work in progress. Also thanks to Hall 9000 for providing screenshots from the Spider Set.
Please note that at this time, the only sets that have all 36 shots are the DVD's that I, Zion, have at the moment (Dr. Gonzo, Isomix, TR47, and the Official DVD's). Shots 6,7,8, & 9 are the only shots with submissions from all versions. If anyone out there would like to help make screenshots for the Farsight set, or has screenshots from a set not listed, please contact BadAsh71 or Zion.
*** Zion EDIT - 12-12-2004 [End] ***

*** Zion EDIT - 7-24-2005 [Begin] ***
Another major update to the screenshots comparison page. Made a few refinements to help make navigation a little easier, as well as uploaded all 36 shots from the new Cowclops/TR47 2.0 DVD. I have also added the "Look" screenshots I was sent a while back. I never realized they weren't loading on the page, so there you go.
*** Zion EDIT - 7-24-2005 [End] ***


If you are currently working on a project, please make screen captures from the exact frames listed above and PM Zion so we can add them to the comparisons above. A detailed list of the location of all shots can be found here.

Thanks
Post
#69412
Topic
***The &quot;ISOMIX&quot; feedback thread ***
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/69412/action/topic#69412
Time
*** Note, this review was posted in the Edits and DVDr thread prior to the creation of this new "feedback" thread ***

Star Wars The ISOMIX Trilogy - A New Hope

Okay, I got a chance tonight to sit down with the ISOMIX ANH DVD Transfer and while I only took the time to check out the menus, the easter egg and the isolated score I wanted to come here and post a quick review just to let everyone know what I think.

I plan on posting a more detailed review as soon as I have time to go through the entire ISOMIX Trilogy but here is a little something to get the ball rolling.

First, what is the ISOMIX Trilogy and who made it? I will say first that I do not know who "ISOMIX" is and Rik hasn't spilled the beans yet, but if "ISOMIX" wants to chime in, please do... take credit for your efforts As for the "ISOMIX Trilogy", this project is actually kind of cool. The author of this set of DVDs has mastered the Definitive Laserdisc collection to DVD and while that has definitely been done several times before, the coolest part is that this set provides an "isolated music score". This means that during the movie you can flip to the second audio stream which is the music score only.... no special effects, no dialogue, just the music. Everything is synched up and edited perfectly to match the music that is playing in the movie.

To listen to the "isolated music score" you have two options. You can (a) select the "isolated music score" from the Audio Options or (b) switch to the second autio track via your DVD Player's Remote Control.

As you may have guessed by the mention of the "Audio Options" part above, this set does have menus.... more on that later

The "isolated music score" is very nice but since it comes from what is most likely one of the newer digitally remastered CD sets it is much cleaner and louder than the music in the movie so you will definitely notice a difference when flipping between the audio tracks, however, I would say that this is fine because the idea behind the "isolated music score" is to listen to the music so it should be more in the foreground and louder than what you would expect in the movie behind all the special effects and dialogue.

With that said, on to the Menus

Like many of you out there, I love Menus

While the TR47 is really great, its biggest downfall is that it has no menus.

The ISOMIX Trilogy has some really cool menus. Let me start from the beginning to give you a good feel for what you get with this set.

First, you put the DVD in your DVD Player and click the button to close the tray and load the disc and then you are greeted with a message that says "Along time ago, on May 25, 1977".... something cool is coming up, I just know it.... then, we are treated to our most despised "altered" scene that introduces Han Solo as the "scoundrel" he is. Han shoots first and then we are taking through through the "Star Wars" intro we have seen on many of the VHS transfers where the words "Star Wars" appears with several video segments flying by as the music from our beloved movies plays on... this leads into the "main menu".

The "Main Menu" utilizes one of the famous poster drawings we all know and love:

ANH Poster

Main Menu
* Play Movie
* Chapters
* Options

There is also a somewhat "hidden" option to play the intro the Star Wars that was played on TV just before the very first airing of Star Wars on Cable TV. I guess we can call this an "easter egg". If you have never seen this little "intro" I would highly recommend watching it.

The "Chapters" Menus is pretty nice. A lot of the "bootleg" DVD transfers of the Star Wars Trilogy simply have snapshots of chapters or merely a text "caption" for a Chapter but the ISOMIX transfer has full motion video "samples" of each chapter much like what you would see in professional DVDs. To top it off, each "page" of the Chapters menu includes background music to match the musical score from the related scenes. This is definitely one of the best "Chapter" menus I have ever seen on a "bootleg" DVD.

Each of the menu options include audio/video snippets from the movies as entrance and exits for the new menu screen.

If I were to grade on Menus alone I would give this transfer an "A" but we have to look at the entire presentation first and take each "con" into consideration.

Okay, menus are really cool, the idea of being able to switch back and forth to an "isolated score" is tres cool but what about the movie itself? Sadly, this is where the set fizzles. This is a DVD that was screaming dual-layered DVD-9 but alas it is only DVD-5 at 4.7GB and with the animated intro, animated menus, animated chapter selection, a rather lengthly "easter egg" movie intro and two audio tracks, there wasn't much room left over for what is really important here... the movie.

As I mentioned at the beginning of this review, I did not watch the entire movie, I just flipped through and checked out all the features of the disc. However, I don't think I really needed to watch the entire movie to grade its audio/video presentation. Okay, what is so wrong with the transfer? Well, like most of the "letterboxed" (aka non-anamorphic) transfers, the ISOMIX version was encoded with the black bars. I really appreciate all the guys out there giving it their best to transfer these movies to DVD but for the love of god, please spend a few minutes on VideoHelp.com. The number one rule in encoding widescreen movies where the desire is to fill out a 4:3 display (rather than 16:9 anamorphic widescreen) is to crop out the black bars and let the encoder add them in digitally. This dramatically reduces the time for encoding and makes the resultant video look so much more professional. Much like all the other "letterboxed" transfers the ISOMIX transfer suffers from grayish/black bars at the top and bottom and flashes of little "silver" spots here and there as is always present in analog sources such as Laserdisc and VHS. Did this really detract from the movie? No, not really but its one of my pet peeves

The colors in the video actually don't look too bad but the fuzzy, grayish/black look of the darker scenes is a real distraction.

Its almost midnight on a Saturday night so I think I should probably go spend some time with my wife

....but tomorrow I hope to take some time to make some screenshots to give you all a better idea of what you will find on this transfer. If you saw the post I made in the "Bootleg DVDs" thread where I compared the "official" DVD, TR47, Dr Gonzo and MeBeJedi, then you will be prepared for the comparison I will show you later. I will use the same screen shots for simplicity sake and will take some more of the darker scenes to show those off as well.

While the video quality is less than spectacular, especially in the darker scenes, I can't say that this is a bad transfer. If anything, I would highly recommend this set to those people who enjoy listening to the music from the soundtrack. Whether you want to just sit down and enjoy the Star Wars Musical Score or you want to listen to the music only as you work around the house with the option of viewing the video as well, this set is pretty cool.

For all of you out there working on creating your own transfers of these great movies I would highly recommend getting this set just to take a look at the menus. The menus on this set definitely raise the bar.

However, I would also tell anyone contemplating transferring our beloved Star Wars to DVD to invest into a dual-layer DVD Burner so that you can add in motion menus, extras and multiple audio tracks without sacrificing video quality for the most important part.

Dual-layer DVD Burners typically sell for as little as $80 and media is coming down in price all the time. Even while the media is more expensive at the moment, the quality is well worth the price.

For those looking for Dual-layer DVD Burners, don't be fooled by high-priced burners with big names like SONY, a large percentace of the burners out there use the same guts as provided by the Lite-On corporation so do your homework and save money without sacrificing quality.

Until later..... may the force be with you
Post
#69341
Topic
Star Wars - The Edits and DVDr releases thread
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/69341/action/topic#69341
Time
Star Wars The ISOMIX Trilogy - A New Hope

Okay, I got a chance tonight to sit down with the ISOMIX ANH DVD Transfer and while I only took the time to check out the menus, the easter egg and the isolated score I wanted to come here and post a quick review just to let everyone know what I think.

I plan on posting a more detailed review as soon as I have time to go through the entire ISOMIX Trilogy but here is a little something to get the ball rolling.

First, what is the ISOMIX Trilogy and who made it? I will say first that I do not know who "ISOMIX" is and Rik hasn't spilled the beans yet, but if "ISOMIX" wants to chime in, please do... take credit for your efforts As for the "ISOMIX Trilogy", this project is actually kind of cool. The author of this set of DVDs has mastered the Definitive Laserdisc collection to DVD and while that has definitely been done several times before, the coolest part is that this set provides an "isolated music score". This means that during the movie you can flip to the second audio stream which is the music score only.... no special effects, no dialogue, just the music. Everything is synched up and edited perfectly to match the music that is playing in the movie.

To listen to the "isolated music score" you have two options. You can (a) select the "isolated music score" from the Audio Options or (b) switch to the second autio track via your DVD Player's Remote Control.

As you may have guessed by the mention of the "Audio Options" part above, this set does have menus.... more on that later

The "isolated music score" is very nice but since it comes from what is most likely one of the newer digitally remastered CD sets it is much cleaner and louder than the music in the movie so you will definitely notice a difference when flipping between the audio tracks, however, I would say that this is fine because the idea behind the "isolated music score" is to listen to the music so it should be more in the foreground and louder than what you would expect in the movie behind all the special effects and dialogue.

With that said, on to the Menus

Like many of you out there, I love Menus

While the TR47 is really great, its biggest downfall is that it has no menus.

The ISOMIX Trilogy has some really cool menus. Let me start from the beginning to give you a good feel for what you get with this set.

First, you put the DVD in your DVD Player and click the button to close the tray and load the disc and then you are greeted with a message that says "Along time ago, on May 25, 1977".... something cool is coming up, I just know it.... then, we are treated to our most despised "altered" scene that introduces Han Solo as the "scoundrel" he is. Han shoots first and then we are taking through through the "Star Wars" intro we have seen on many of the VHS transfers where the words "Star Wars" appears with several video segments flying by as the music from our beloved movies plays on... this leads into the "main menu".

The "Main Menu" utilizes one of the famous poster drawings we all know and love:

ANH Poster

Main Menu
* Play Movie
* Chapters
* Options

There is also a somewhat "hidden" option to play the intro the Star Wars that was played on TV just before the very first airing of Star Wars on Cable TV. I guess we can call this an "easter egg". If you have never seen this little "intro" I would highly recommend watching it.

The "Chapters" Menus is pretty nice. A lot of the "bootleg" DVD transfers of the Star Wars Trilogy simply have snapshots of chapters or merely a text "caption" for a Chapter but the ISOMIX transfer has full motion video "samples" of each chapter much like what you would see in professional DVDs. To top it off, each "page" of the Chapters menu includes background music to match the musical score from the related scenes. This is definitely one of the best "Chapter" menus I have ever seen on a "bootleg" DVD.

Each of the menu options include audio/video snippets from the movies as entrance and exits for the new menu screen.

If I were to grade on Menus alone I would give this transfer an "A" but we have to look at the entire presentation first and take each "con" into consideration.

Okay, menus are really cool, the idea of being able to switch back and forth to an "isolated score" is tres cool but what about the movie itself? Sadly, this is where the set fizzles. This is a DVD that was screaming dual-layered DVD-9 but alas it is only DVD-5 at 4.7GB and with the animated intro, animated menus, animated chapter selection, a rather lengthly "easter egg" movie intro and two audio tracks, there wasn't much room left over for what is really important here... the movie.

As I mentioned at the beginning of this review, I did not watch the entire movie, I just flipped through and checked out all the features of the disc. However, I don't think I really needed to watch the entire movie to grade its audio/video presentation. Okay, what is so wrong with the transfer? Well, like most of the "letterboxed" (aka non-anamorphic) transfers, the ISOMIX version was encoded with the black bars. I really appreciate all the guys out there giving it their best to transfer these movies to DVD but for the love of god, please spend a few minutes on VideoHelp.com. The number one rule in encoding widescreen movies where the desire is to fill out a 4:3 display (rather than 16:9 anamorphic widescreen) is to crop out the black bars and let the encoder add them in digitally. This dramatically reduces the time for encoding and makes the resultant video look so much more professional. Much like all the other "letterboxed" transfers the ISOMIX transfer suffers from grayish/black bars at the top and bottom and flashes of little "silver" spots here and there as is always present in analog sources such as Laserdisc and VHS. Did this really detract from the movie? No, not really but its one of my pet peeves

The colors in the video actually don't look too bad but the fuzzy, grayish/black look of the darker scenes is a real distraction.

Its almost midnight on a Saturday night so I think I should probably go spend some time with my wife

....but tomorrow I hope to take some time to make some screenshots to give you all a better idea of what you will find on this transfer. If you saw the post I made in the "Bootleg DVDs" thread where I compared the "official" DVD, TR47, Dr Gonzo and MeBeJedi, then you will be prepared for the comparison I will show you later. I will use the same screen shots for simplicity sake and will take some more of the darker scenes to show those off as well.

While the video quality is less than spectacular, especially in the darker scenes, I can't say that this is a bad transfer. If anything, I would highly recommend this set to those people who enjoy listening to the music from the soundtrack. Whether you want to just sit down and enjoy the Star Wars Musical Score or you want to listen to the music only as you work around the house with the option of viewing the video as well, this set is pretty cool.

For all of you out there working on creating your own transfers of these great movies I would highly recommend getting this set just to take a look at the menus. The menus on this set definitely raise the bar.

However, I would also tell anyone contemplating transferring our beloved Star Wars to DVD to invest into a dual-layer DVD Burner so that you can add in motion menus, extras and multiple audio tracks without sacrificing video quality for the most important part.

Dual-layer DVD Burners typically sell for as little as $80 and media is coming down in price all the time. Even while the media is more expensive at the moment, the quality is well worth the price.

For those looking for Dual-layer DVD Burners, don't be fooled by high-priced burners with big names like SONY, a large percentace of the burners out there use the same guts as provided by the Lite-On corporation so do your homework and save money without sacrificing quality.

Until later..... may the force be with you
Post
#69085
Topic
***The MeBeJedi feedback thread ***
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/69085/action/topic#69085
Time
Originally posted by: skeg64
"The current DVD will be 4x3. When it is complete, I will reformat it for 16x9."

Hey MBJ, what is the point of working in 4:3? Wouldn't it be easier to do it as 16:9 from the beginning? A dvd player would letterbox it on a 4:3 TV anyway.
Also, if you are just going to crop the black bars and resize back to 720x576 for the 16:9 version, you are essentially just stretching the picture, and this could be as easily done using the Zoom function on a 16:9 TV.
So the anamorphic version will not be any better than the 4:3 version, except you won't have to set your TV to zoom!


There was a discussion about this in another thread... I believe it was called something like "LaserDisc vs Bootleg DVD" or something like that.

Here's the lowdown.... the LaserDiscs are in "letterboxed" format and not "Widescreen Anamorphic". Here is the difference..... Anamorphic is just the movie and no black bars.... the black bars are generated if necessary by your DVD player. On the other hand, being an analog format, LaserDisc Widescreen films are "letterboxed". This means that the movie is "framed" with black bars at the top and bottom to fill out a 4:3 screen.... thus the reason MeBeJedi keeps referring to this as 4:3.

While the movies themselves are Widescreen, they were "framed" to fit within the analog 4:3 realm to fit what some people label as a "standard" TV.

While MeBeJedi is correct to say that the video source from the LaserDisc is 4:3 taking into account this letterbox, 4:3 "fraiming", it would probably be less confusing if people just referred to it as "letterboxed" rather than 4:3 since most people think of 4:3 as "Pan and Scan" which is not what MeBeJedi is doing at all.

MeBeJedi discusses a lot of this in the "LaserDisc vs Bootleg DVD" thread.

Basically, you will lose some resolution by making this old "letterboxed" widescreen film "anamorphic". The result will not be as good as a professional "anamorphic" widescreen presentation made from the original source.

Take a look at the aformentioned thread for more info.
Post
#68861
Topic
The OT Cover Repository
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68861/action/topic#68861
Time
Lookn' good RR

Now, if we can get some people to post covers.

I have a hard drive that went out a while back that has some cool covers my wife and I created. I will have to hook it up this weekend and see if I can recover them.

I have a really cool set of covers for the Ewok movies that matches the "official" DVDs. Instead of "Star Wars" my wife opted to put "Ewoks" with the volume number just like on the "official" DVDS. We used the gold top and bottom borders and gold letter spine. Pretty cool but unfortunately I never printed them for myself before the hard drive failed. The only copy around is the set I printed for a friend at work
Post
#68848
Topic
Info Wanted: Is there a &quot;Faces&quot; LD-to-DVD rip?
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68848/action/topic#68848
Time
Originally posted by: eros
I have the Look version2 (Asian) set apparently that is from the faces editions


hmmm... I just looked back at the Edits and DVDrs thread and I see the Look OOT version you mentioned. Oddly enough, I believe I have that and the quality is not very good.

Not sure why but all of the earlier "Asian" bootlegs tended to have poor quality transfers and many of them had horrible audio-sync problems (especially ESB).

I do remember those menus though... will have to take a look tonight when I get home from work.
Post
#68770
Topic
Star Wars DVD Covers
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68770/action/topic#68770
Time
Have you tried the torrent on MySpleen that Rikter put up?

That sucker has like 800MB of Star Wars DVD Covers. Definitely worth the download

If you don't have an account on MySpleen, register and then after you sign-in, go to the Torrents thread here at the OT Forum and locate the direct link to the Covers torrent. That is really your best bet. It has the "Faces" covers and many more
Post
#68673
Topic
The OT Cover Repository
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68673/action/topic#68673
Time
Originally posted by: Rebel Rouser
Originally posted by: Kingsama
nice... my only advice would be to change the ie6 deragartory comment to a firefox derogatory comment...


except that I don't use firefox... hence the nonstandard browser comment

I just use what I have and don't bother to install new software that does exactly the same thing as what I've already got


You should really try Firefox... it renders pages much more faster than IE, has a built-in Popup Ad Blocker which dramatically reduces the infection of Spyware, does not support ActiveX or "Install on Demand" which has plagued IE for years, has tabbed browsing which is the shizzle and it and its Mozilla HTML Rendering enzine are far more standards based than Microsoft... and this is coming from a long time Microsoft fan who has programmed in Web Development for years. I used to always use IE as my base to ensure compatibility and with Firefox I have begun to learn how far off Microsoft is from really being a "standards based browser".

Do yoursef a favor, install Firefox. If for anything, do it for security. I have installed Firefox on my home computer, work, my parent's and my mother-in-law's computer to help keep them free of spyware. I have always supported IE but am quickly moving over to the "IE is a plague" camp.

Strong IE proponents will tell you that Firefox supports "extensions" which can modify behavior in the browser and thus opens a hole for security problems but for now, IE is the target. We all know the virus and spyware writers are focussing in on IE which is a very easy target so switching to a browers that doesn't have a "kick me" sign written all over it will not be a bad move

Great cover site by the way... now lets fill'er up
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#68671
Topic
Info Wanted: Is there a &quot;Faces&quot; LD-to-DVD rip?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68671/action/topic#68671
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Of all the existing LD to DVD rips available to date, none that we have seen so far have used the "Faces" release. For the most part they have all used the Definitive Laserdisc release as a source. However, with that being said, this new ISOMIX transfer that is out there does utilize the "Faces" discs to replace parts of ESB (mostly Leia's welding scene). The first batch of Definitive sets that went out were missing the Leia welding scene in ESB so they were later replaced.

As to the question of whether or not the Definitive Edition was remastered.... yes and no. No, a newly remastered version of the Definitive set was never released, but this was most likely done to protect the collectability of this limited release. Instead, the set was remastered and released without all the extras as the "Faces" edition.

You can find a lot of this information at the Davis site: http://www.davisdvd.com/misc/ep4.htm

Of course we have to realize that not everyone that transfers the laserdiscs to DVD comes to this board and not everyone shares such transfers so we really have no way of knowing, however, as far as the OT board is concerned, there are no current rips that primarily use the "Faces" Laserdiscs.

MeBeJedi and Zion are currently working on their own independent transfers from the "Faces" set of discs. If you wade through the "Bootleg DVDs" you will find discusions on the differences between the "Faces" set and the "Definitive" edition. For the most part the main difference is in ANH. The "Definitive" edition version of ANH still had a lot of "noise" in it... it was a muddy transfer and needed some work. The "Faces" edition allowed Lucas and company to clean the movie up some more and run it through some additional noise reduction schemes to produce a higher quality transfer. This same noise reduction effort was performed on the entire set and thus makes it a major improvement for ANH but only minor for ESB and Jedi which were already pretty good.

Other than the extra noise reduction that the "Faces" set went through, the main difference is that the "Definitive" edition was in CAV format whereas the "Faces" set is CLV. This is only a big deal if you are using an extremely old laserdisc player for viewing. With an older player you can do frame by frame searching with CAV discs but not CLV, however most newer laserdisc players pulled off the same feat for CLV discs so the difference is very minimal in terms of functionality.

Rikter should be seeding out "a" version of MeBeJedi's ANH "Faces" transfer later this week... this will not be the "final" version but it should give us a taste of the quality that can be achieved both by using a better quality source such as the "Faces" edition as well as better knowledge of A/V conversions. I know we are all waiting in anticipation
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#68708
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A scary thought!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68708/action/topic#68708
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Not sure about the other guys but Ling said there could be another DVD release sometime around 2007 (pulling a date from a hat)... he made sure to point out that he worked with the DVD and has no say in when or what comes out so nobody should quote him at all.

However, I would say that is probably right.... 2005 or 2006, a boxed set of all 6 movies followed in 2007 by what everyone has actually been asking for... but still probably no where near perfect. As we have seen with the 2004 release, they need a bunch of new editors and may oh, I don't know.. a QA process
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#68509
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Star Wars DVD Covers
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68509/action/topic#68509
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Originally posted by: Dantyr
Is where a page too get the cover in HQ ?


Okay guys, not so rough... most likely English is not his first language.

The Prillaman site is a good start to get good High Quality DVD Covers:
http://www.prillaman.net/dvd-covers-starwars.html

NOTE: This site has reached its alloted bandwidth for the month so check back this weekend.

There is also a very extensive Star Wars DVD Cover Collection up on MySpleen:
http://www.myspleen.net

NOTE: This site is a Bittorrent Tracker site, requires FREE User Registration and a Bittorent Client such as g3Torrent, Bittornado or Azureus

Filter through this thread... you will find some truly amazing covers. Rebel Rouser posted some really cool ones inspired by the "official" OT DVD Release... look for those a few pages back.

Good Luck
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#68376
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STAR WARS: The Torrents thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68376/action/topic#68376
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Originally posted by: agr1170
These DVD's were created from the Definitive Edition Laserdisc Box Set. Some
small portions (like Leia's welding scene in EMPIRE) were taken from the "Faces"
set.It was digitized via S-video and edited with Final Cut Pro. The audio was
transferred via a digital coaxial connection to ProTools and converted to AC3.


Is this Leia welding scene everyone is talking about the one in the Falcon just before her and Han kiss on the asteroid? If so it is on all versions I have, the Faces Laser Disc & VHS, The SE DVD(5 Star 1997), the 2004 DVDs and DVDRs of the Definitive Collection. If its not which scene is it?


Some of the earlier versions of the Definitive LaserDisc did not include the Leia "welding" scene. If you bought the discs at the time of release you could send them back to the manufacture for replacements... otherwise, the discs were reissued with scene added back in... consequently the scene is in tact on the "Faces" version as well.