Sorry, it took me a looooooong time to get my hands on a copy of Vegas Pro 9. Ady it was indeed the edition, as now I have been able to successfully customize the properties of the video. The final render is currently taking place. Once this is done I can re-format my computer (regaining a LOT of speed) and then I can work on the menu!
If you're not satisfied with those I can give it a try.
I needed a full body shot without a lightsaber not from a video game in high quality. (Original Size is 2200x3400) If you can find another one, let me know.
To ease the wait here's a poster I whipped up.
adywan said:
Asteroid-Man said:
The render is complete for the DVD. Everything rendered properly and when things move fast, edges become kind of jaggidy. The WMV will be at the normal fps though.
That sounds like an interlacing issue with the render. Did you perform a 2:3 pulldown removal before importing the video into vegas or just import the ripped DVD mpegs directly into vegas? If you didn't perform the pulldown removal first then that will cause you all sorts of problems because Vegas is useless as correctly identifying the pulldown or the correct field order.
I've also found out why you can't customise the MEG settings. Looking at my version again i noticed that mine is the "pro 9" version and not "studio platinum pro 9". They are 2 completely different products. With the platinum version everything is very basic and is even more buggy than pro 9. It seems also that the platinum version of DVD architect is also minimal which restricts the customisation of Mpeg and AC3 outputs
If you can get hold of the Pro versions of Vegas and DVD ARchitect then you can import your project file into that without problems and it will give you greater control over your video. You can get trial versions here:
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/download/trials/vegaspro
What was the file size of the final Mpeg render?
The pulldown removal was done yes. I think it was just due to the final render not doing proper pulldown. I'll be rendering the WMV this weekend and then I'll retry the MPEG. The WMV should be fine, and most new DVD Players will fix the jaggedy edges during fast motion. I'm having trouble with the WMV profile. I'll have to double check everything from the last render I made in WMV and duplicate it. Also I just started on the first of many new posters to come, as well as a trailer.
Torrents usually or by mail. I'll be sending out copies with custom labels etc to people that prove to me that they have episodes I, II, III and IV otherwise, how you acquire it is non of my business due to the disclaimer that I'll post with the video. One more thing, don't think that I'll have the money to just print off labels and send them to everyone haha. I'll do a draw or something.
The render is complete for the DVD. Everything rendered properly and when things move fast, edges become kind of jaggidy. The WMV will be at the normal fps though.
No I think the drive disconnecting is either the cable or the power supply. If it disconnects again I'll try another cable.
The audio is set to standard DVD AC3. I exported audio and video seperately. The audio is good to go. Lets see how this video render turns out!!!
I tried it once overnight and it disconnected again. I'm doing it again now and it's 11hrs through (with no disconnection) and it still has 18-19hrs remaining. I'll have to check it in the morning. (The morning where I am)
adywan said:
if you can manage to remove all traces of the music leaving a clean dialogue and sound effects track i would be very interested in these. they would be invaluable for my edits, especially the prequels
Same here. I wanted to re-score the entire music track but it was an impossibility.
Yeah ady it's greyed out. I can customize every other filetype and setting EXCEPT MPEG-II (no matter which Template I use)
EDIT: I'm using Sony Vegas Movie Studio Platinum Pro 9
EDIT 2: Ady this version of Sony Vegas is made to be more user friendly and I was told to just use the DVD-NTSC for DVD Architect as the template and it automatically uses drop-down although it doesn't point it out. I think it's because of the whole "home editing" thing they have going on that they feel the average editor wouldn't understand what drop down is anyways.
I'm gonna go ahead and go with the DVD Architect template (as suggested). When working on ESB I'll go through my program's Software Library to try and find just Sony Vegas Pro 9 (which is what I originally thought I was using). Perhaps by then I'll even be more comfortable with FCP.
Sorry if that was a waste of time, I didn't realize this version wouldn't let me customize the MPEG-II settings. Thanks for all your help ady!!! I'm gonna render the MPEG-II now.
I can't customize MPEG-II, I can only customize MPEG-I. Assuming I can do it with that here are the defaults. What would I change?
Otherwise I just get this (MPEG-II): Video: 29.97 fps, 720x480
Thans, a lot ady, I know you're busy and I really appreciate the help!
Ok guys, good news and bad news. Bad news is that the lossless AVI didn't even render 100% as a chunk of it came out blank due to the hard drive disconnecting during the render. So it looks like I'll have to render straight to MPEG-II using Vegas.
The good news is rendering to MPEG-II with Sony Vegas is a piece of cake.
The thing that might piss off some people but something that most won't even notice: So the reason I was going with the original method was that going from 23.976fps to 29fps through pulldown fades your frame (to put it simply) whereas a complete conversion to 29fps will duplicate frames. The good news is that the human eye won't be able to tell the difference between the two unless you watched a bunch of DVD's with pulldown right before the edit. You might realize something is a little off for a few seconds but the human eye will readjust (which is why we have no problem with low framerates regardless of the fact that the human eye can differentiate frame rates until up to 100fps.) So in the first few sequence you MIGHT notice it slightly if you were watching a few DVDs before, but after the opening logos you should be comfortable (unless you're Clark Kent).
So this is the decision I'm going with. I asked the community for help as much as I could and I took whatever I could, but at this point I can't do anything beyond buying a new power supply, which I'm no longer considering doing as the difference between 5 faded frames and 5 duplicated frames is so slim. Also, I don't want to buy more hardware for my computer as I'm buying another one soon so it would be pretty pointless.
Just a send off, go watch AOTC, that has a direct conversion of 23.976 to 29 frame rate, not 23.976 with pulldown (on the NTSC DVD). I caught this while editing it. (The only difference between AOTC's dupplicated frames and this is that sometimes the AOTC frames are in random places (like a quick shot of Yoda during the chase scene, etc (yes I went through and patched up what I could))
So rest assured, not much left. I need to render the MPEG and then I will render one final WMV as a stand alone file (23.976 fps) to be released online for people to convert to their mp3 players, xboxs, ps3s etc.
Sky, that was awesome!!!
Haha ok well if anyone is willing to just hold off until I can at least try it without needing to spend money (I have plans B-Z). If they don't work I will only accept a donation on one three conditions:
1. You have seen the workprint or some scenes from the edit
2. You truly WANT to donate
3. You realize that I have nothing to give in return besides (hopefully) a sooner release date.
Again, no donations until I have done everything within my own power to resolve this problem!
Me asking wouldn't make it a donation, would it? ;)
Yeah but now my hard drive keeps disconnecting from the computer because it's USB powered and my power supply can't support it converting a 50GB avi. I don't have money for another HDD that's AC powered or money for a new Power Supply (saving for a 3-4g computer) so I'm gonna try converting using my dad's computer tonight, if that doesn't work I'll try transfering the files to my sister's HDD and trying again!
Isn't that like buying scenes?
Haha, I just copy pasted it from the project file, bulletted it and then deleted the punctiations. So I've been trying to convert the video file and so far my external drive keeps disconnected. I'll try it again later tonight.
As I've already posted before, these people are in the credits:
Do you expect me to go back and re-edit it out?
Dammit man, I just finished rendering the 50gb lossless AVI file after 14hrs. Can it just be kept? Haha, I really feel every bit of input in this thread or any thread I've created in the tech forums to be helpful.
Well I'm sure on any major torrent site once I release it. :)
Ok so render as a loseless AVI and then convert to MPEG-II with pulldown using Procoder 3 and then import that into DVD-Architect. And I'm guessing audio should be imported seperately using the AC3 5.1 template for DVD Architect using Sony Vegas?
The clip that follows the first title sequence explains every component from the intro besides what a Jedi is and I did that on purpose so that the first time we truly learn what the Jedi were is when Obi-Wan explains it to Luke.
The second text is followed by the opening scenes of ANH and frankly it worked back in the 70s when no one knew anything about Star Wars. I made things a bit more clear but honestly, in terms of ANH we've seen it work before so I'm confident it will.