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Mackey256 said:

The Shout Factory version of Halloween 2 has the TV cut in SD but the deleted scenes (stuff from the TV Cut) are all in HD.  That could prove be useful if you plan on using that footage in your edit.

You mean the BD? I have the DVD version, and the "deleted scenes" are pan'n'scan 4:3, just like the TV cut (but lower quality and interlaced).

Though "HD" and "SD" have nothing to do with the aspect ratio anyway ;)

I just remembered this movie had a Betamax bootleg.

Just for funsies, let's see how it compares:

Hmm, well that didn't turn out quite as well as I'd hoped. In PowerDVD, the white clipping looks about the same, but the actual captures that it saves are clipped a bit worse.

Someone else will have to try to best me, I've got to get to bed already.

TServo2049 said:

Another thing which needs to be captured is a PCM mono track from an LD of The Wizard of Oz (perhaps the "Ultimate Oz" box set?).

 The audio track I usually enjoy that film with is Dark Side of the Moon B)

AntcuFaalb said:

You_Too said:

@msycamore: You're right about the glue. I just checked Puggo's version of ESB and it's there.

This makes me wonder if the glue marks in SW is in the technicolor prints as well.

The glue is ALL OVER the JSC. It's at the end of almost every shot (not scene!) change.

 Yeah, it's about as bad as Ernest Saves Camp @_@

AntcuFaalb said:

Is it worth re-capturing?

 You could probably re-capture the Technidisc pressing, if you like ;)

captainsolo said:

The new BD actually presents the film fairly well for the first time on home video, but is a bit hazy and the black level is off somewhere.

Yeah, I looked at those comparison shots that were linked to in this thread, it looks miles better.

AntcuFaalb said:

Can you post something from that image to demonstrate the chroma shift?

 Well it's not a very good shot for pointing it out...

I don't think I still have the X9, or I'd find you a better example. I know someone put up a shot of the binary sunset that showed it off very well, along with a second shot where they tried to fix it.

The colors are still shifted.

Or whatever you want to call it. You can see how the color information is further to the right than it should be. I tried going into Photoshop once and shifting it to the left, but it only made it look kind-of better.

Yowza, popped in The Spy Who Loved Me UE DVD last night for a minute (had the title song stuck in my head), Zeta Minor's website hadn't mentioned how much of a grainless DVNR nightmare it is @_@

Looked like there was some edge enhancement haloing going on too, and everything was so stable that it looked unnatural...but as soon as the title sequence ended, the frame started wobbling and bouncing all over the place...very strange.

I'll just have to sit at a normal distance from the screen next time, and not straight in front of it.

Are you trying to say the process can be undone?

My computer really doesn't like this forum, I can't get the post above to show up correctly or go away... Edit: Fixed!

BE GONE, FOUL POST OF THE UN-DEAD.

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

What is the easiest way for me to determine whether it is a foldown of the 35mm or the 70mm?

Apparently the easiest way is to share it with the world, and the friendly members of OriginalTrilogy.com will let you know.

GavSalkeld said:

But compression and EE is bad, isnt it?

If one had to make a set of DVDs using the SEs and UEs, which would you choose from each set to make a "best" set?

 I've got a few of the SEs, and they're not bad, they're just not amazing. Not that the UEs are amazing, but some of them look pretty darn good, problems aside.

You want to see bad, see the original DVD of Throw Momma from the Train =( That's one double-dip I was very happy to make.

But back to your question, I think the general opinion is that Live and Let Die looks a lot worse on the UE. The other DVDs tend to be a matter of weighing the pros and cons.

negative1 said:

nowhere in there did i see anything about anamorphic transfers

or anything else like that..

 I know news of it came out before the DVDs did, I remember a lot of angry (p)reviews at Amazon, telling George to fix it before release.

STENDEC said:

...take a look at these close ups of Obi-Wan's beard:

 I never imagined that would be a sentence someone would use in my lifetime.

I can die happy, now.

negative1 said:

if there was gate weave in the original

why wouldn't it be there?

 It wasn't in the original though, it's just in the GOUT masters...or they screwed something up while mastering it to DVD.

Either way, if you haven't seen the GOUT before G-Force got a hold of it, basically the picture shakes left and right by a couple of pixels the whole time. All three movies.

negative1 said:

overall, those don't seem like bugs to me...

That's why I used the quotation marks ;) As was stated in the original post: "The definition of a bug in this context is left intentionally open.", so we're including other mistakes, flaws, etc., and intentional flaws.

AntcuFaalb said:

Please don't list things like: "DVNR! har har har!". An exception is the infamous speeder shot because a replacement can be dropped in from an LD source (and color-corrected) without being too distracting.

That's not going to fix the entire movie, though.

Or movie[u]s[/u], I should say. Empire is really bad, too.

Other "bugs" include the gate weave, those weird "glitchy saber" shots (don't know much about them, but I've seen the screen grabs), and obviously the non-anamorphic picture.

Well, they didn't quite have steadycams back then =)

IIRC, Halloween had a sort of "prototype" version of one, for that intro POV sequence.

I wasn't even aware that the BluRays were finally coming out.

Shame that Goldeneye is still messed up, though in a different way than we were expecting =/

Good thing that I picked up the old SE version at Big Lots not too long ago \m/

negative1 said:

do you think the noise, dirt and reel change marks

are too distracting?

 No. The GOUT smearing I find distracting, but dirt and scratches (as long as they aren't too excessive) are just the nature of the beast. It's like pops and clicks on a vinyl record, or RF interference on your Atari 2600.

I don't know what "noise" you're talking about. If you mean film grain, it would be a crime to remove it. Even grain during composite shots, trying to take that out I think would just be too destructive, and would make the film feel more lifeless, like the 2004s.

I go to the theatre a lot, so I'm used to seeing "cigarette burns" on films.

Having said all that, I don't mind too much of the cleanup you guys are doing, especially all the scratches that are all over Empire. When you've got the green lines going down for a whole reel or whatever, that does get pretty distracting awfully quick. I just hope the method you're using doesn't take too much time and energy, or doesn't remove things that it shouldn't be. Also, the stabilization/de-warping filters are nice.

negative1 said:

would/could you

watch the whole movie in this quality (720p/1080p)?

I could, as long as it had the color correction. I don't think I'd enjoy it as much if it was blue tinted with certain scenes all faded red spliced in.

negative1 said:

notice how some camera shots are really shaky?

If you mean the shot of R2 in the canyon, I didn't know they "fixed" that in the SEs. 

negative1 said:

you need to UNLEARN....

I think I've seen the SEs maybe three times total, so there's not much for me to unlearn =) With all these great new releases out lately, I think I've forgotten most of the SE changes already.

negative1 said:

try different browsers, or update your flash plugin.

 It just kept giving the generic "Sorry, There was an error encountered while loading this video." message. I tried a different computer, and most of them played.

negative1 said:

why not show harmy's v2/2.1 afterwards?

 I might have to keep that in mind as a backup plan.

We did get a really nice set of clips on the blog, but they're not color corrected all of the way, there's still lots of blue in it. It's just the first minute or so, right after the crawl ends.

The 97s have this really weird smearing going on though, so everything has motion trails.

It's kind of like watching a 70s soap or something.