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Post: #138155
Topic: Feedback Wanted: for my ANH dvd test clip
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/138155/action/topic#138155
Time: 12-Sep-2005 1:51 PM

Originally posted by: Moth3r
Hmmm, maybe I'm wrong about then.

Or maybe it's because the output from the Canopus, being a DV capture device, is bottom-field-first interlaced?

Anyway, try encoding with "top field first" checked, offset line set to 0, but this time make sure that "progressive frame" is checked.

I assumed it was bff.
But why should I check "progressive frame"? My avi is interlaced.
Did you deinterlace the video for your transfer?

Post: #138124
Topic: Feedback Wanted: for my ANH dvd test clip
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/138124/action/topic#138124
Time: 12-Sep-2005 10:08 AM

I use 2.70. If I select "top field first" and set offset line to 0 the output video doesn't play right (on tv that is, with powerdvd it always plays right no matter what settings I use).

Post: #138108
Topic: Feedback Wanted: for my ANH dvd test clip
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/138108/action/topic#138108
Time: 12-Sep-2005 5:30 AM

I've tried many different filters and settings to try to sharpen the image and denoise it. It's very difficult if not impossible to sharpen the video without introducing some kind of other problem. When sharpening one area an other area gets grainy. When removing noise, detail is lost elsewhere and so on. I think the only way is to apply different filter sets to each individual scene or part of a scene (which is ofcourse very time consuming). So right now I think I'll just leave the sharpness and noise as is and just try to get the brightness and contrast right.

Post: #138106
Topic: .: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/138106/action/topic#138106
Time: 12-Sep-2005 5:10 AM

I don't know if this is caused by the multiple capture averaging, or if it's jitter or minor time base errors in the player.

I think it's the side effect of the Xsharpen filter (or warp sharp or something similar).

Post: #138054
Topic: Feedback Wanted: for my ANH dvd test clip
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/138054/action/topic#138054
Time: 11-Sep-2005 7:03 PM

1. Is the audio a direct digital extraction of the PCM track off the laserdisc?

2. How are you intending to deal with the missing screen wipe at the end of side 1 of ANH?

BTW, "top field first" should be checked when encoding with CCE 2.70.xx.xx.

1. I don't have the hardware to extract the actual digital track. I wanted to use a Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Pro but it wasn't enough. Some sort of signal convertor was needed so I gave that up.

2. Don't know yet. In your transfer it seems there a still image. Was it like that on the laserdisc? On my set the wipe is missing but instead of a still image there's normal video.

If I select "top field first" the video stutters heavily on my tv set.

Post: #137975
Topic: Feedback Wanted: for my ANH dvd test clip
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/137975/action/topic#137975
Time: 11-Sep-2005 5:55 AM

That doesn't make sense, how can you gain extra detail if the bitrate is the same on each pass?

In CBR encoding more passes will result in a more constant and stabler bit allocation for GOPs. Also the bit allocation for each picture in a GOP will be modified to achieve higher image quality. (CCE User Guide page 35: Multipass CBR)
Everyone who I discuss this with doesn't believe me but maybe in this thread it can be cleared once and for all. Multipass CBR gives a better image quality then single pass CBR. A balance has to be found for the bit allocation between simple and complicated parts in a single frame. But this is the same in VBR, not only is the ammount of bits available per frame optimized but also the bit allocation per frame.

Post: #137971
Topic: Feedback Wanted: for my ANH dvd test clip
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/137971/action/topic#137971
Time: 11-Sep-2005 5:15 AM

Originally posted by: Kaal-Jhyy
Cool, I'm downloading it!

I'm french and have always liked the french voices (I prefer english version, but...).
Sorry, but this is the french version with english audio (and voices).

Post: #137970
Topic: Feedback Wanted: for my ANH dvd test clip
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/137970/action/topic#137970
Time: 11-Sep-2005 5:13 AM

Thank you for the feedback Citizen.

The video's maximum brightness level is about 2/3 of the maximum available, colour also needs to be boosted slightly, otherwise the video looks ok.
brightness 2/3 of maximum, is that good or bad? Yes the color is a bit washed out as it is on the LD, haven't done anything about that yet.
I'll experiment on boosting it.

The sample DVD was encoded weirdly, it played ok on WinDVD but the anamorphic bit wasn't set right so everything looked stretched, when I played it through my hardware DVD decoder the video stuttered, so I put SmartRipper on it and extracted the two audio tracks + the video, the stuttering on the tv out of my hardware DVD decoder appears to be because of the weird DVD encode, in the filename of the m2v it says "([0xE0]_Video_NTSC_720x480)" even though it's encoded to PAL format.
Hmmm that's strange. I forgot to set it as 16x9 so the dvd player thinks it's 4x3. Weird about the "([0xE0]_Video_NTSC_720x480)" and stuttering, I didn't set "output topfield first and offsetline (both "0") in CCE, but it plays fine on my dvd player. In CCE I can't mark the source as PAL can I?
The audio has been time compressed as with the PAL VHS Moth3r used but the dynamic range has been compressed, I loaded up the extracted PCM into CoolEdit to compare with my definitive collection audio and the explosions just don't have that 'punch' of DC LD audio, most notably during the opening laserblast shots and when the stormtroopers blow the door open.

I haven't done anything with the audio yet. But can you hear a difference between the AC3 and the PCM audio?
If you're encoding a 1 hour 56 min film across 2 SL DVDs you won't need to do multipass encoding just 1 pass constant bitrate

I'm putting face 1 and 2 on one disc and face 3 and 4 on the other. That means disc one is slightly over an hour. (maybe I should put it on a DL disc

) So for ANH I can use the maximum bitrate aivalable, with Jedi it's different. But I always do multipass also on CBR.

Post: #137880
Topic: Feedback Wanted: for my ANH dvd test clip
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/137880/action/topic#137880
Time: 10-Sep-2005 4:04 PM

Specifications

LaserDiscs:
French Coffret Trilogie (PAL, English audio, french subtitles in black bars)

Capture equipment:
Pioneer DVL-919E
Canopus ADVC-55

Final output:
2x dvd-r/movie (yes, that means switching discs, for the real laserdisc feeling

)

Audio:
DD 2.0 448 Kbps, or
PCM Stereo 1536 Kbps

Video:
PAL, as high as possible bitrate, at least 10 pass encoding

Post: #137868
Topic: Feedback Wanted: for my ANH dvd test clip
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/137868/action/topic#137868
Time: 10-Sep-2005 2:48 PM — Edited 3-Jul-2020 10:22 AM

I’m working on a transfer of the french coffret trilogie -> http://japanld.free.fr/laserdisc
I’m making a pretty much direct transfer (no temporal smoothing, sharpening etc).
I only resize to make it anamorphic and the contrast is upped by 6%.

Now, I made a testclip (2 rar files, 200 mb each) and I would appreciate it if a few people could download it and watch it at their kickass systems.
I would like to know what you think of the aspect ratio, color, brightness etc.
And also the audio, can you hear a difference between the PCM and DD 2.0?

Here are the links:
Part 1
Part 2

Post: #137601
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/137601/action/topic#137601
Time: 9-Sep-2005 5:53 AM

Originally posted by: ntrprs
It certainly will!
The upperlimit for bitrate is about 384kbps.
Lowest limit is 128kbps.

Upperlimit of 384? I encode in 448 kbps sometimes and it plays fine on my dvd player.

Normalizing to -2 db? Isn't that extremely loud?!?! Since 0 is the maximum?

Post: #136850
Topic: Counting Game
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/136850/action/topic#136850
Time: 6-Sep-2005 4:00 AM

vierhonderdzevenentachtig

Post: #135062
Topic: aspect ratio
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/135062/action/topic#135062
Time: 2-Sep-2005 12:08 PM

Not without cutting something from the top and bottom/squeezing vertically/black bars on the side.

Post: #133668
Topic: Citizen's Aspect Ratio Calculator Tool for your browser
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/133668/action/topic#133668
Time: 27-Aug-2005 8:00 PM

I've ripped a few scenes of different PAL anamorphic widescreen 2.35:1 movies (including star wars the phantom menace and gangs of new york) and opened the m2v files in virtualdub mod. The black bars are between 69 and 73 pixels leaving between 430 and 438 pixels for the movie. So 488 is too much.

Post: #133544
Topic: Citizen's Aspect Ratio Calculator Tool for your browser
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/133544/action/topic#133544
Time: 26-Aug-2005 5:13 PM

Post: #133540
Topic: Citizen's Aspect Ratio Calculator Tool for your browser
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/133540/action/topic#133540
Time: 26-Aug-2005 4:52 PM

If the aspect ratio is 2.35:1, how much of the 576 vertical resolution is actual image in an anamorphic video? +/- 408 lines right?

Post: #133536
Topic: Citizen's Aspect Ratio Calculator Tool for your browser
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/133536/action/topic#133536
Time: 26-Aug-2005 3:44 PM

Huh? Something is not right. Now my video is vertically stretched! 693:324 is only image without black bars.

Post: #133531
Topic: Citizen's Aspect Ratio Calculator Tool for your browser
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/133531/action/topic#133531
Time: 26-Aug-2005 3:21 PM

OK can someone check if this is correct?

I have a PAL clip, fullscreen, 2.35:1 aspect ratio. When I cut of all the black bars (horizontal and vertical) this is what's left: 693:324.
This I resize to 720:488 and add black bars to make it 720:576. Is it now anamorphic widescreen with the original aspect ratio intact?

Post: #133356
Topic: Brosnan is no longer Bond, Daniel Craig is now Bond.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/133356/action/topic#133356
Time: 25-Aug-2005 7:15 AM

I would like to see Robbie Williams as Bond.

Post: #133007
Topic: Discussion: What Laserdisc Player to buy?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/133007/action/topic#133007
Time: 23-Aug-2005 1:40 PM

On this site is some nice info on a lot of pioneer players: http://www.laserdiscarchive.co.uk/pioneer1.htm

Post: #132922
Topic: ***The Official FAN CREATED DVD Reviews and Feedback Thread***
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/132922/action/topic#132922
Time: 23-Aug-2005 11:01 AM

ungodly low 3 PASSES
certainly hope the X0 guys do AT LEAST the max 9 passes in CCE's SP version, hopefully the max of 14 or whatever is allowed in the corporate, or regular CCE version.

As Moth3r already said quality improvement reaches its limit at 3 ~ 4 times of encoding.
I bet you can't show us some clips that shows us the difference!

Besides the maximum is 99 passes. Bongloads, you really encode a lot yourself, right?

Post: #132924
Topic: Discussion: What Laserdisc Player to buy?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/132924/action/topic#132924
Time: 23-Aug-2005 6:01 AM

Do you want a PAL, NTSC or dual system player?

Post: #132226
Topic: Info: PAL LBX: there's another one... a '78 UK release of a PAL LBX LD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/132226/action/topic#132226
Time: 20-Aug-2005 4:47 AM

http://www.originaltrilogy.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=9&threadid=2742
The lightsaber is not like that on the definitive set.

I took that picture from my raw capture of the Definitive collection.

Post: #131401
Topic: Info: PAL LBX: there's another one... a '78 UK release of a PAL LBX LD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/131401/action/topic#131401
Time: 17-Aug-2005 11:32 AM

If it's from 1978 you would expect the original crawl right? Did you see the crawl Grinder?

Post: #131379
Topic: Info: PAL LBX: there's another one... a '78 UK release of a PAL LBX LD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/131379/action/topic#131379
Time: 17-Aug-2005 8:20 AM

'78 UK release of a PAL LBX LD (with Englisch audio of course).

Was it widescreen or fullscreen?