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Is that really you Jay? Smells like Kathleen Kennedy mischief to me!
Is that really you Jay? Smells like Kathleen Kennedy mischief to me!
Thank you for your review. It made me chuckle. A 6/10 for this fanedit, with the content of the show as source, is probably the greatest compliment I’ve received for weeks. I’ll try to reach the 7/10 when I revisit the edit again.
I’ll definitely take your gripes about the ending into account when I revisit the film (there will be a subtitle-free version as well, but not before I’m 100% satisfied with the film). A lot of people requested subtitles for this edit and hardcoding them in saved me a lot of time. They’ll be gone for a newer version.
I’m actually considering ending the film when Galadriel reach the Queen’s camp at the end of the film, and then do a close-up of Mordor with some sinister music… I think that might be the perfect spot to end it, for a less cluddered ending. And then open Film II with the ending (but improved) that I put together here. We’ll see I guess. I’m still in need of a break from this one. It fried my brain.
I figured I could try my hands at something else than just fanedits. Tell me what you thought of it.
I swear I read “Disneyfied” the first time I saw the title and thought you were making a parody.
However, Interesting premise. Good luck. ❤️
So Chloe came up with a suggestion for Half-Blood Prince and it’s opening.
The idea was to remove too much of the action in the beginning as the opening promises an action-packed adventure, which HbP is everything but, and crosscut the Death Eaters attacking Diagon Alley with Harry’s cafè visit. This way, the audience will think Harry is the Death Eater’s target rather than Diagon Alley, and first when we see Dumbledore arrive do we realize he’s outside of any danger.
This also sets the proper dark tone for the film, as the Death Eaters are lurking in the shadows during the film, plotting their next move, and Harry and his friends constantly in a sense of unease.
I took and did some hours to arrange something that would work, and I think I now do have something:
Having to re-do large amounts of the opening SFX and ambience this crack at it took me a couple of hours, but I think it does a better set-up for the film than the original opening.
❤️
PM’s sent. Titanic Ultimate Edition is releasing very, very soon tho’. 16:9 aspect ratio, increased video and sound quality, 5.1 surround and improved pace.
Ideally I’d like to release them at the same time, but time will tell. If GoF isn’t done by the end of the month, I’ll release PoA first as it doesn’t have too much work left to be done.
Oh, and the Barty Crouch Pensieve memory is also undergoing visual effects work to resemble the smoke-like reveals and introductions of HbP and DH.
Oh, and thank you so much, CamSMurph. That’s quite the compliment. I don’t think it comes down to brilliance; I think it comes down to me using way too much of my time to think about these things when I should focus about work or family. Haha.
As for Deleted Scenes, yes; I have upscaled two deleted scenes for GoF Ultimate Edition. Snape and Igor’s conversation at the Yule Ball, and Ron, Hermione and Harry discussing the murder of you-know-who.
Brilliant! I also think this is the way forward.
Now, this edit is crafting into the category of extensive, so I can only do an estimate of August release at the earliest.
Things I have left to do, besides more audio work (sfx, ambiences and replacement work), are Visual Effects including, but not limited to;
And then it’s the general finetuning of all the things either mentioned or not mentioned in this thread, that need to be good to perfect before I render a beta version for Chloe to criticize.
Lumos!
Okay, so I think I’ve found a brilliant solution to what many deem one of the more crushing aspects of The Goblet of Fire;
The Yule Ball.
Now, this is the part in the movie where the plot completely stops at a hault for a whooping 23 minutes without any movement to the story (besides beautiful character development). Then the film proceeds with The Second Task and then seven minutes later The Third Task, followed by the Third Act.
I always hated how The Third Task came so quickly after The Second Task, not to mention how the film grows very stale in the middle-point with The Yule Ball. Like, exceptionally still.
So, what’s the solution?
Well, if the The Second Task was to be introduced after the introduction of McGonagall’s Dance lessons but also right before Winter, then not only will the timing of events be proper to the weather (students wearing scarfs etc. but no snow) but there is also momentum to the story with The Yule Ball events happening simountanously to The Second Task events (except for Harry asking Cho out, then the twins, and then the actual Yule Ball event which will all happen after The Second Task).
So now both the storylines are complementing one another, without the story stopping for the other. Win-Win?
Then we also get increased time between The Second Task and The Third Task, as The Yule Ball event, Dumbledore’s office and the Pensieve, Barty Crouch murder, and Snape’s Potion Chamber all eat up more than 20 minutes of interesting story development.
Having done a rough cut with this idea I am blown out the park that the film wasn’t structured this way, despite not following the book faithfully in the unfolding of the events.
Book lovers will maybe not love it, but then again - my focus is on improving the film, not the book. Hehe. And also this is not a change that removes anything like beautiful character moments. It just re-arranges when they happen.
What do you think?
Also, is it me or does it sound like you’re repeating the same voice clip for Hermione three times in the clip?
I did. Good catch. This was adressed over at fanedit.org too. It was a placeholder.
She now shouts different Harry’s, and her voice is less urgent.
Brilliant feedback and ideas. Cheers, guys. I’m doing alterations accordingly. ❤️
I always hated how random and abrupt The Burrows felt in the Goblet of Fire opening. It was never even established as a location for the film. It’s just; Harry wakes up - Harry leaves. No sense of familiarity or belonging.
I also took the liberty of adding two shots from CoS that I didn’t end up using in CoS Ultimate Edition, that was perfectly fitting for what I was going for here. Had to make it coherent with the nighttime and whatnot of course, but I think it works beautifully (the bewitched pan shot and the sweater).
Apart from some more work with the clouds in the intro (I want the WB logo to HP Title card more smoothened out as well, consider this a working placeholder) I think the opening is pretty strong. However, I’m blinded by editing eyes and need to know if something feels or looks off-putting - or if you’d like to see something, for instance in the nightmare flashback.
To keep an air of mystery in GoF we don’t want to know that Voldemort is behind this from the get-go. This will benefit the film imo.
Hi man, these edits look amazing. Please may I have a link? Cheers.
Thank you, Samuel. PM sent. I’d recommend watching the Ultimate Editions for the first two entries.
I can definitely extend the train sequence with a couple of seconds. I was a little bit afraid it would bore people if it got on for too long, but I’m happy it sets the mood and could be longer.
and here’s the updated and working Train to Hogwarts sequence:
The entry looks way better paced without all the actors choreography! Thou I do prefer a bit more music in their entry (or I am just used to the original scene).
The “Train to Hogwarts” link sadly does not work. Would love to see that as well!
Happy to hear, Antani! Cheers! I can see where you come from. Maybe something more bombastic would be more fitting, but I’ll need to give it a think.
Of course. This is all a work-in-progress.
Everything I will need feedback on I will release to the public for feedback.
Getting this beast to flow in 5.1 surround is a challenging thing, with all the different aspects being balanced perfectly. I will need to isolate a lot more dialogue to work alongside the new ambience and sfx.
Chloe of fanedit.org will also do a preview and feedback screening before full release.
Cheers. Not done yet. Feedback is always most welcome.
If you need my feedback on that one, could you try to remove the music when Igor hugs Dumbledore at the end? That may sound impossible somehwat, but from what I’ve seen in the community over the years, it’s doable. 🙂
Yes, I’ll isolate the dialogue.
You might need to tinker with the colour grading on the new establishing shots in the “Train to Hogwarts” clip, but fantastic work as always. 👍
And I am impressed with what you’ve done with the new “Welcome to Hogwarts” scene! 😃
I tried to go for a sunset vibe with the grading (to also imply some sort of time having passed), but perhaps a closer to night would be more appropriate and better.
Cheers. Not done yet. Feedback is always most welcome.
-> “Welcome To Hogwarts” not completely finished, but getting there. Sort out some audio and the pace.
Yes, my friend. I’m working on PoA and Goblet of Fire at the same time since I want the two films to compliment eachother both in tone and aesthetically.
Both movies are quite similar in style, yes. The difference is, PoA is leagues better. 😄
Agreed. But hopefully I hope to remedy some of that and get it way closer.
I like the sound of everything you’re planning for GOF!
Happy to hear that, Jimmy! Cheers!
antani said:
+1 from me!
Especially from what is read in “other updates and implemented cchanges”!!!
The new train to Hogwarts scene sounds AMAZING to bring that atmosphere!Looking forward into watching the newest releases!
Cheers, Antani. I hope to please. ❤️
Funny how you posted an update on the Revisited series a day before my birthday, Andreas! 😄
Well, then I will upload some clips for this special occasion! Give me a couple of minutes.
Yes, my friend. I’m working on PoA and Goblet of Fire at the same time since I want the two films to compliment eachother both in tone and aesthetically.