❤️

PM’s sent. Titanic Ultimate Edition is releasing very, very soon tho’. 16:9 aspect ratio, increased video and sound quality, 5.1 surround and improved pace.

Ideally I’d like to release them at the same time, but time will tell. If GoF isn’t done by the end of the month, I’ll release PoA first as it doesn’t have too much work left to be done.

Oh, and the Barty Crouch Pensieve memory is also undergoing visual effects work to resemble the smoke-like reveals and introductions of HbP and DH.

Oh, and thank you so much, CamSMurph. That’s quite the compliment. I don’t think it comes down to brilliance; I think it comes down to me using way too much of my time to think about these things when I should focus about work or family. Haha.

As for Deleted Scenes, yes; I have upscaled two deleted scenes for GoF Ultimate Edition. Snape and Igor’s conversation at the Yule Ball, and Ron, Hermione and Harry discussing the murder of you-know-who.

Brilliant! I also think this is the way forward.

Update

Now, this edit is crafting into the category of extensive, so I can only do an estimate of August release at the earliest.

Things I have left to do, besides more audio work (sfx, ambiences and replacement work), are Visual Effects including, but not limited to;

• Voldemort’s eyes being red
• The Death Eater’s arriving by smoke during the Attack Of The Quidditch World Cup (for continuity with OotP and on)
• Two establishing shots are yet to be completed (one before Dark Arts class with Moody and one before The Third Task)
• One establishing shot need improved nighttime grading
• The Second Task is being redone with new underwater shots and overall pace and tone improvements, as the suspense is too shortlived before Harry discover the final part of the challenge in which he has to save Ron and Hermione. Fleur’s part is also re-arranged so that she gets attacked and captured BEFORE Harry enters the crowded underwater area, as to increase the suspense. The audience knowing the area is dangerous before Harry enters it will increase suspense and paranoia (suggestion by Chloe). This part also need a lot more audio work before I’m satisfied.
• The original, GoF Burrows matte painting is also being redone because a) it’s obviously a matte painting, B) it looks lifeless. I’m adding fog, birds, trees and moving clouds to the shot. Not done.
• The Third Task is slightly re-arranged and redone to make it more of a horror movie segment. I want each task to raise the stakes, and when Voldemort show up it goes from light horror to total nightmare. More audio work to be done, and two new shots need more VFX work.
• The Mad Eye Moody Reveal is rearranged to reveal the actions he performed under Harry and the audience’s noses, with him orchestrating the entire ordeal. This means a new segment in which everything is revealed and we see what Moody and his eye was up to, stalking Harry all over the school year.
• Dumbledore and Harry’s conversation about his nightmare is rearranged as a reveal to the audience, and also in need of more work.

And then it’s the general finetuning of all the things either mentioned or not mentioned in this thread, that need to be good to perfect before I render a beta version for Chloe to criticize.

Lumos!

Okay, so I think I’ve found a brilliant solution to what many deem one of the more crushing aspects of The Goblet of Fire;

The Yule Ball.

Now, this is the part in the movie where the plot completely stops at a hault for a whooping 23 minutes without any movement to the story (besides beautiful character development). Then the film proceeds with The Second Task and then seven minutes later The Third Task, followed by the Third Act.

I always hated how The Third Task came so quickly after The Second Task, not to mention how the film grows very stale in the middle-point with The Yule Ball. Like, exceptionally still.

So, what’s the solution?

Well, if the The Second Task was to be introduced after the introduction of McGonagall’s Dance lessons but also right before Winter, then not only will the timing of events be proper to the weather (students wearing scarfs etc. but no snow) but there is also momentum to the story with The Yule Ball events happening simountanously to The Second Task events (except for Harry asking Cho out, then the twins, and then the actual Yule Ball event which will all happen after The Second Task).

So now both the storylines are complementing one another, without the story stopping for the other. Win-Win?

Then we also get increased time between The Second Task and The Third Task, as The Yule Ball event, Dumbledore’s office and the Pensieve, Barty Crouch murder, and Snape’s Potion Chamber all eat up more than 20 minutes of interesting story development.

Having done a rough cut with this idea I am blown out the park that the film wasn’t structured this way, despite not following the book faithfully in the unfolding of the events.

Book lovers will maybe not love it, but then again - my focus is on improving the film, not the book. Hehe. And also this is not a change that removes anything like beautiful character moments. It just re-arranges when they happen.

What do you think?

CamSMurph said:

Also, is it me or does it sound like you’re repeating the same voice clip for Hermione three times in the clip?

I did. Good catch. This was adressed over at fanedit.org too. It was a placeholder.

She now shouts different Harry’s, and her voice is less urgent.

Brilliant feedback and ideas. Cheers, guys. I’m doing alterations accordingly. ❤️

The Opening - Beta

https://streamable.com/c2n80o

I always hated how random and abrupt The Burrows felt in the Goblet of Fire opening. It was never even established as a location for the film. It’s just; Harry wakes up - Harry leaves. No sense of familiarity or belonging.

I also took the liberty of adding two shots from CoS that I didn’t end up using in CoS Ultimate Edition, that was perfectly fitting for what I was going for here. Had to make it coherent with the nighttime and whatnot of course, but I think it works beautifully (the bewitched pan shot and the sweater).

What I need to know is:

• Does this set the proper dark tone and keep an air of mystery and intruiging confusion?
• Does the intro work for you?
• Is Harry’s dream scary?
• Anything techincal you want to add?

Apart from some more work with the clouds in the intro (I want the WB logo to HP Title card more smoothened out as well, consider this a working placeholder) I think the opening is pretty strong. However, I’m blinded by editing eyes and need to know if something feels or looks off-putting - or if you’d like to see something, for instance in the nightmare flashback.

To keep an air of mystery in GoF we don’t want to know that Voldemort is behind this from the get-go. This will benefit the film imo.

https://streamable.com/c2n80o

Samuel95 said:

Hi man, these edits look amazing. Please may I have a link? Cheers.

Thank you, Samuel. PM sent. I’d recommend watching the Ultimate Editions for the first two entries.

I can definitely extend the train sequence with a couple of seconds. I was a little bit afraid it would bore people if it got on for too long, but I’m happy it sets the mood and could be longer.

Oh,

and here’s the updated and working Train to Hogwarts sequence:

https://streamable.com/jse6n9

antani said:

The entry looks way better paced without all the actors choreography! Thou I do prefer a bit more music in their entry (or I am just used to the original scene).

The “Train to Hogwarts” link sadly does not work. Would love to see that as well!

Happy to hear, Antani! Cheers! I can see where you come from. Maybe something more bombastic would be more fitting, but I’ll need to give it a think.

Of course. This is all a work-in-progress.

Everything I will need feedback on I will release to the public for feedback.

Getting this beast to flow in 5.1 surround is a challenging thing, with all the different aspects being balanced perfectly. I will need to isolate a lot more dialogue to work alongside the new ambience and sfx.

Chloe of fanedit.org will also do a preview and feedback screening before full release.

CamSMurph said:

Anjohan said:

Cheers. Not done yet. Feedback is always most welcome.

If you need my feedback on that one, could you try to remove the music when Igor hugs Dumbledore at the end? That may sound impossible somehwat, but from what I’ve seen in the community over the years, it’s doable. 🙂

Yes, I’ll isolate the dialogue.

CamSMurph said:

You might need to tinker with the colour grading on the new establishing shots in the “Train to Hogwarts” clip, but fantastic work as always. 👍

And I am impressed with what you’ve done with the new “Welcome to Hogwarts” scene! 😃

I tried to go for a sunset vibe with the grading (to also imply some sort of time having passed), but perhaps a closer to night would be more appropriate and better.

Cheers. Not done yet. Feedback is always most welcome.

Video Clips from GoF Ultimate Edition

Train to Hogwarts

https://streamable.com/jurgl9

Welcome to Hogwarts

https://streamable.com/cljqon

-> “Welcome To Hogwarts” not completely finished, but getting there. Sort out some audio and the pace.

CamSMurph said:

Anjohan said:

Yes, my friend. I’m working on PoA and Goblet of Fire at the same time since I want the two films to compliment eachother both in tone and aesthetically.

Both movies are quite similar in style, yes. The difference is, PoA is leagues better. 😄

Agreed. But hopefully I hope to remedy some of that and get it way closer.

Jimmy Chips said:

I like the sound of everything you’re planning for GOF!

Happy to hear that, Jimmy! Cheers!

antani said:
+1 from me!
Especially from what is read in “other updates and implemented cchanges”!!!
The new train to Hogwarts scene sounds AMAZING to bring that atmosphere!

Looking forward into watching the newest releases!

Cheers, Antani. I hope to please. ❤️

CamSMurph said:

Funny how you posted an update on the Revisited series a day before my birthday, Andreas! 😄

Well, then I will upload some clips for this special occasion! Give me a couple of minutes.

Yes, my friend. I’m working on PoA and Goblet of Fire at the same time since I want the two films to compliment eachother both in tone and aesthetically.

Update - Goblet of Fire Ultimate Edition IMAX

So, Chloe of Fanedit.org has shared some very good ideas and suggestions, and those in this list are what remain of them that I am implementing for Goblet of Fire - Ultimate Edition.

I am also mentioning new major updates and changes for the opening 15 minutes in a new list below that.

Her Synopsis:

Every time I watch The Goblet of Fire, I have to admit that I feel disappointed. It lacks the mystery and suspense that should be at the heart of the story. As a result, for many people it turned out to be the weakest film in the entire Harry Potter series. Despite high expectations, the film fell short and left audiences feeling underwhelmed. As a die-hard Harry Potter fan, I tried to come up with a list of suggestions to make it the thrilling and suspenseful mystery it was meant to be. With your amazing editing skills, I think the audience will be kept guessing until the very end, never quite sure who is pulling the strings.

Cut completely the dream sequence from the beginning, including the one after the Yule Ball (both will be used later). This way we don’t know what Harry dreamt about, and it leaves the audience with questions. The aim is to keep Voldemort’s plan from being revealed for now, and to keep the audience from seeing Crouch Jr. ​​​​​​​This means we don’t know who the person walking through the rubble at the championship is, and keeps the air of mystery.

Changes Being Implemented:

• Cut the shot of Cedric, his father and Mr. Weasley descending from the sky after using the Portkey.

• Cut the shot of the students cheering at the landing of the Beauxbatons carriage that almost swept Hagrid away. That’s something students who like Hagrid would never do.

• Cut the scene of the Durmstrang and Beauxbatons students entering the Great Hall. Their entrance/performance never made much sense to me, and the blurry staff thing is ridiculous. We don’t need to see Fleur before she is chosen by​​​​​​ the Goblet of Fire. It’s more realistic to have the Goblet choose her as a random student.

(THIS SCENE IS NOT CUT, but HEAVILY altered).

• Cut the scene of Karkarov secretly entering the Great Hall entirely. This red herring scene leads nowhere. Also, the film tries too hard to make him a suspect. Karkarov looks suspicious enough with his grimaces alone.

• Cut all scenes and shots in which Moody’s eye is watching Harry, including scenes in which he is watching him from a distance (these shots will be used later). This will remove all suspicion from Moody and the audience will never think there is anything suspicious about him.

• Change the sound of Moody’s eye. It sounds too electric/mechanical, and electricity isn’t supposed to work at Hogwarts (at least in the books).

• Cut the shot of Hermione saying “Your wand, Harry” during the First Task. This makes Harry look more competent, and he wouldn’t be able to hear her anyway.

• Cut the shot of Madame Maxime touching Hagrid’s beard. It’s not funny and it’s disgusting.

• Cut out all the scenes in which Fleur swims through the seaweed and put them together and insert them before the scene in which Harry swims into the seaweed. It is more suspenseful and exciting in this linear order.

• Cut Moody out of the scene where Crouch Sr. talks to Harry after the second task. The idea is to make the audience think that Crouch Sr. is behind everything, which works perfectly with the scene where Sirius speculates that either Crouch Sr. or Karkarov is responsible for Harry’s name being in the Goblet. This would require some heavy editing and appropriate music choices to make it work. Also, the scene in Dumbledore’s office follows immediately after this one, so it would appear that Harry is about to tell Dumbledore that he thinks Crouch Sr. is the villain.

• Insert the scene in which Harry finds the body of Crouch Sr. just before the start of the Third Task. This makes it clear to the audience that Crouch Sr. is innocent, and as it is just before the Task, there is no time to wonder who the villain might be. Also, suspicion falls on Karkarov again, as in the previous scene Harry intercepts him and Snape discussing the Dark Mark, and two scenes before the audience learns that Karkarov has been judged by Crouch Sr. (Basically, the order of the scenes is Lake Talk Harry w/Crouch Sr. -> Dumbledore’s Office and Trial -> Snape’s Storage -> Crouch Sr.'s Dead Body -> The Third Task).

• When Harry finds out that Snape was a Death Eater, make sure we see Harry’s shocked face at that exact moment, and use something like the sound of drums or some appropriate music. This revelation should be crucial, especially given the HBP, but it’s just mentioned here as if it were nothing.

• Crosscut the scene where Harry and Dumbledore are talking about the trial and Harry reveals that he’s been dreaming about Crouch Jr. with Harry’s dream (mostly interior shots) from the beginning. This is where the audience finds out what Harry has been dreaming about and who the man from the championship is. At this point, things start to fall into place, but it is still unclear how Crouch Jr. fits into the plot.

• In Harry’s dream, mute the phrase “gather our old comrades…”; this will make the Death Eaters more independent, as in the books, and is consistent with seeing Voldemort in the graveyard for the first time in 13 years. Crouch Jr. also hated the Death Eaters, otherwise he would never have turned Draco, his ‘friend’s’ son, into a ferret

• Add an establishing shot after the Snape’s Storage scene, so that it does not feel like the Second and Third Tasks are only a week apart.

• Shorten or cut the shot of Moody coming out of the maze and Bewitching Krum (to be used later).

• When Harry talks about being in the graveyard before, cut to some outside shots of his dream from the beginning.

• Make Voldemort’s eyes red, as in the books, and/or change his voice to make him sound and look even more terrifying. This would make Harry’s PTSD in the OotP more justifiable. Also, in the later films, Voldemort does not seem as scary as he should. (I understand that this is very challenging, and if it couldn’t be done, that’s fine).

• Voldemort calls Harry’s mother a “filthy muggle mother” in the graveyard. But she’s not a Muggle. This is a mistake in the film. He should have said ‘Mudblood’ or ‘Muggleborn’ (I don’t know if it can be fixed), (Maybe muting the word ‘Muggle’ would do the trick).

• Voldemort tortures Harry with the Crucio Curse in the graveyard. He then lifts the curse by saying Crucio a second time. This makes no sense. Magic doesn’t work that way in the films or the books. I suggest muting the second Crucio.

• Intercut shots of Moody stalking Harry throughout the film (including his eye zooming) in the final reveal of who’s really pulling the strings. Also use a shot of Nevil reading the book and the shot (previously cut) of Moody bewitching Krum as he comes out of the maze.

• In the scene where Dumbledore says “Your arm, Harry”, mute Harry’s crying. It looks like Dumbledore is hurting Harry, and he would never do that.

• Cut the shot of Dumbledore talking about burning the curtains in his fourth year. It’s out of character (at least for his film version) and doesn’t fit the scene at all.

• Cut Ron’s farewell to Fleur and Hermione’s to Krum. The end of the film is too long as it is, and Krum says he will write to Hermione, which he never does. It also works better when there isn’t much of a gap between the previous scene, in which Dumbledore tells Harry “You’re not alone”, and the departure, in which the students stand together and say goodbye.

• Make all the dream sequences black and white (just an idea, not sure it would work well).​​​​​​​

(NOT Black&White, but more horrific).

• A few additional tweaks, such as the use of colour grading to make the film more aesthetically pleasing and to maintain the overall gradual darkening of the series, sound mixing to create a more immersive experience for the audience, making them feel like they are truly part of the wizarding world, SFX and VFX here and there, and careful pacing cuts to ensure that the film moves at a steady pace and that the viewing experience is engaging throughout.

OTHER UPDATES AND IMPLEMENTED CCHANGES:

• The film opens with new, custom establishing shots of The Burrows (The Weasley’s Home) that set the mood and give time to breath before the introduction of Harry and his friends. Harry is introduced wakening up from a nightmare, but we don’t know what it was about.

• Removed a lot of GoF musical scores, replaced SFX and ambience with custom-made, and let the film have a darker, more silent tone in the dark opening minutes. Added Whimsical and Wonderous John Williams when fitting.

• The film has insane pace in the opening 15 minutes, and I’ve done a lot of work to create new establishing shots and new close-ups to give the film’s opening time to breathe.

• The film has a new Going-To-Hogwarts-By-Train Sequence.

• The Great Hall has a completely new structure, with no Filch gimmick and a completely different look and feel. It’s hard to explain, so I’ll release some snippets soon.

… and more.

Since I’m drunk as a barrel celebrating a birthday and answering on my iPhone I do apologizing for anything stupid. You have been warned.

The only caution I would add is none other than please pretend this to be the original content released and review it thereafter. Since you - as I flatter myself to have too - have a keen eye for storytelling and editing, I would be most curious to see how you feel upon watching several of these entries and how the story of game of thrones unfold (in this film format).

Please feel free to enjoy it as is and leave any feedback as you please. Nothing excites me more than people going blindly into my edits (as I know they do for you).

Hopefully you’ll enjoy GoT with the limited time you have for tv shows and media. I know the feeling. Enjoy.

PM sent.

CamSMurph said:

I would like to ask if you’ve thought about using John Williams’ expanded scores from La-La Land Records, but I doubt you can even afford them. 😝

Haha, I am using the main OST, but I would love access to John Williams’ full, unreleased HP Score. Imagine all the great pieces that were never in the films. Oh man.

ChinmayX said:

Which will be the original ending?

The one that makes you feel the best. 😉 The last two parts are going to be in two seperate folders, and you download the one you prefer.

It is. The goal was to craft a strong, thematic narrative with three acts and a strong main character in Galadriel (without all the forced female empowerment stuff).