The edit is soon to be released.

I know. What?, right. Well, I’ve been editing about 4 hours a day since the premiere, and have had the structure ready for a long time, in anticipation for the grand finale. I think I’ve found a perfect beginning, middle and end to this story, and now have found it immensely enjoyable.

The film hits the 3 hours and 15 minute mark, which I think is impressive, due to the simple fact that it’s still shorter than RotK (which was important to me, to keep it shorter than the grand finale to the entire franchise) and since all the major plotlines are intact.

EddieDean said:

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Interested in your thoughts!

Not bad structures at all, but not befitted to this project. I want the Rings of Power seasons to become Feature Films that fit alongside Peter Jackson’s Lord of the Rings, with a similiar movie structure.

If you create these kind of “Book I” -> “Book II” type films for the series, It could be a great and interesting edit for the people who want to delve deep into every plotline, without the bad aspects of the series.

ArtisDead said:

You are the man! I was debating who was going to do this first among the great editors. I somehow knew ot would be you! If you need art, I’m on it already!

My friend, I would be honored once again! And thank you. That is a great compliment, from a good friend. ❤️

The Southland introduction is fine on paper, but I tried it in execution and by the time that plotline start to evolve I’m bored out of my mind because Galadriel is not a strong and interesting enough of a character to carry the first 60 minutes on her shoulders.

The same goes for the Dwarf storyline, although I completely understand you.

If I remove the emotional weight of Elrond and Durin’s storyline, along with too heavy a focus on Galadriel for the First Act, the film just crumbles into boredom and then, later on, confusion, as suddenly Galadriel is sidelined for 30-40 minutes (to make her travel from Numenor to Middle-Earth plausible within my movie canon, as I put weight on travel).

And the last episode was PATHETIC! I’ve given this show so much love and patience, and then this half-assed finale… blergh.

Now I need to figure out how to end it on a high, as the First and Second Act I find to work.

vranir said:

I’m pretty sure that the episode 5 Numenor content could be almost entirely cut without missing a beat. Just imply that there were always three ships going and show the characters in armor boarding them.

Yup, totally agree. ❤️

Thank you for that. All things noted.

I’m constantly falling in and out of love with the Star Wars universe, so I’m going to come back to this when I’ve fallen back in love with it.

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So far, I have a very film-like structure of the first 3 episodes ending at the 1 hour and 40 min mark, with the possibility of further cutting material depending on what the future episodes provide of character development and plot.

The Harfoots now provide the heart of the movie (thus far), the Galadriel storyline the Numènor (and human) plotline and “The elf guy” the main plotline. It all comes very obvious across that way, and makes the thin plot easier to follow and the overall structure of the series way more interesting in my honest opinion.

I tried with a different take on it to see how it would work, in where I had the prologue cut before Galadriel and her companions enter Morgoth/Sauron’s old leir, and then her waking up on the ship to Numènor. It kind of worked, up until I realized that most of her character development came from the first episode, and then it kinda goes into a stall.

Therefore, I reverted back to my linear structure.

The Harfoots don’t show up before the meteor crashes, the Southlands is introduced after Galadriel and Elrond’s conversation ends on “I want to hear more about your heroic tale” (or something of that ilk), and then intercutting the story threads up until a Act I climax when the Galadriel jumps into the ocean, the meteor crashes and the “Elf guy” is reunited with his old friends in the Orc Camp/Caves.

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It’s 8-episodes-a-season, so 40 hours.

I found a satisfactory way to cut Game of Thrones seasons into films - and GoT does a far better job than this one thus far imo - so I’m fairly confident one movie per Rings of Power season shall be conclusive enough. There’s way too much filler in the first two episodes alone that I’d say they have 50-55 minutes worth of content combined.

However, I like shaping things along the way and who knows - perhaps we’ll realize that there are tons of things to completely remove (or keep) further down the line.

And perhaps you are right in that one season will need two or three films. But, at least my goal will be 1-film-a-season (if plausible). Three episodes in, and I only really like the Harfoot girl, Elrond, the Nùmenôr Captain and possibly Galadriel’s human raft bud. Galadriel is a must to keep obviously, but I think the main chess players are on the board now and a structure based on those characters along with a hard focus on the (very thin) plot I think will make for one very strong movie in the end. But for now, yes, that’s just a guess.

The Major beats of my changes:

• Removal of dialogue too on the nose (keywords: predictable structuring of dialogue or “suspense lines”)
• Characters will show up when important to the plot, and grow organically and steadily into the show - even with it’s very thin plot. This way, it won’t feel as slow-paced and characters that are not yet of importance won’t waste your time on the screen.
• Harfoots/Hobbits plotline is sharpened and structured. Ep 1-2’s storyline and introduction of (so far) many unimportant characters is extremely tiresome and will annoy most “attuned-to-cinema” viewers.
• Galadriel has an intruiging backstory and actress imo, but her way too strong introduction and at times very tiresome dialogue (all mostly issues from the first 2 episodes, episode 3 way better here) is doomed to set a lot of audiences into shock and cringe mode. Therefore, Galadriel’s “IM A STRONG FEMALE” introduction is finely tuned into something more of a “IM A DEFINED CHARACTER” introduction. This way, she can grow organically into the story and not come across as a character with too strong a skillset and personality for the viewer to understand that she - as all other good characters in a good story - will have to grow and learn as one.
• Restructing of the entire plotline, with Sauron’s backstory from season 2 carefully crafted into a 4-structure arc throughout the plot.

… and then loads more. We’re talking about a 1000 different cuts here and several new audio mixes.

LOTR being my favorite trilogy of all time, this is an edit more for me than anything I’ve ever edited before. I think there’s things to salvage here.

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Film 7 is close.

MoviesGamesMusic said:

Good to hear the last few movie edits are coming along well.

Regarding SNOW - Is there a possibility you could go ahead with the darker ending for movie 10 (for us nihilist’s) and then once SNOW is released (a good year from now I’d say) produce an alternative cut of movie 10 so that show can follow on from it.

I think this would please on all fronts, however, I am fully aware of the work these edits take you. Just thought I’d mention my own preference early on and see what reaction you get from others about it.

Keep up the great work Anjohan.

I was thinking that, but then I realized; I’ve killed two major characters that definitely will show up in Snow, making it rather canon breaking and will probably render my film edits rather pointless for 90% that would want to use them for rewatch before Snow.

So, work will now continue on Film 7 and 8 (and workprints are already made for 7-10).

Film 7 is shaping along very nicely, and 7 and 8 - which I thought would be the two weaker installments - are turning out to be two of my favorite installments, feeling I’ve found the right balance between what’s good in the later story and removing or majorly altering what’s bad.

Also, with the news of a “Snow” show on the horizon, I MIGHT have to wait to release Film 10 until we have a first season of the show. It COULD completely alter the ending of the main show and therefore this series, if we somehow can salvage “lesser” parts.

jhed13 said:

Omg you made this too?? This is another project I was drooling over! Would absolutely love a link to this as well. One of my favorite childhood movies!

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vranir said:

I cut the vanilla rescue significantly in my sub-edit. Basically, ObiWan sets off the explosion, goes into back, opens 1 door, then the one where Leia is, and then leaves with her. There’s no opposition, because it’s all part of the trap.

Yes, that’s how I had it too before I did the new rescue. It really works the best. Everything in the original rescue is bad af, which is why I prefer the alternate one, but I understand people wanting the vanilla instead of the chocolate.

homelyjedi said:

Anjohan said:

Yes, PM’s sent. Sorry for delay. I’m on holiday.

Btw, when I get back home, I’ll render a “Original Structure” Cut without the alternate escape. Some love it, some hate it - so damn it - I’ll have two available.

that makes me very happy to hear. i hope i didn’t come across as overly critical in my post. i think your edit is inspired. although there are other small changes i would personally make, without the alternate escape THIS is the edit i choose to add to my collection.

Absolutely not. Thank you for your honesty. Taste is taste - and making two versions doesn’t cost me many calories, as I simply just have to reinsert an old scene and then move the timeline to fit. The second cut will be even shorter tho, probably going from 2 hours and 14 minutes to 2 hours and 10 minutes or something.

That being said, I’ll remove some stupid things from the rescue in the Second Cut (Original Rescue), like Obi-Wan struggling so hard to fight some random goons, getting captured and all that vodoo.