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Well, thank you all for those kind words. Appreciate it.
I have a BETA Version (so to say) of the film up on my Google Drive now in the “Lord of the Rings” folder should anyone want a sneak peek. It is the full film and all, it’s just that I’m not completely settled on the ending as of yet.
Therefore, I think some feedback could help us get there.
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The length of the edit is to strike the perfect balance between pacing, story and depth. Nothing else. 3 hours and 15 minutes is my perfect balance for this edit, after having edited it for countless hours. A lot of pacing has been done to create a fulfilling adventure.
All the major plotlines are in there, with the necessary character development (imo).
Thank you to both. I appreciate it a lot! ❤️
@Vranir: Yeah, a good computer is crucial to a massive editing project.
I know. What?, right. Well, I’ve been editing about 4 hours a day since the premiere, and have had the structure ready for a long time, in anticipation for the grand finale. I think I’ve found a perfect beginning, middle and end to this story, and now have found it immensely enjoyable.
The film hits the 3 hours and 15 minute mark, which I think is impressive, due to the simple fact that it’s still shorter than RotK (which was important to me, to keep it shorter than the grand finale to the entire franchise) and since all the major plotlines are intact.
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Interested in your thoughts!
Not bad structures at all, but not befitted to this project. I want the Rings of Power seasons to become Feature Films that fit alongside Peter Jackson’s Lord of the Rings, with a similiar movie structure.
If you create these kind of “Book I” -> “Book II” type films for the series, It could be a great and interesting edit for the people who want to delve deep into every plotline, without the bad aspects of the series.
You are the man! I was debating who was going to do this first among the great editors. I somehow knew ot would be you! If you need art, I’m on it already!
My friend, I would be honored once again! And thank you. That is a great compliment, from a good friend. ❤️
The Southland introduction is fine on paper, but I tried it in execution and by the time that plotline start to evolve I’m bored out of my mind because Galadriel is not a strong and interesting enough of a character to carry the first 60 minutes on her shoulders.
The same goes for the Dwarf storyline, although I completely understand you.
If I remove the emotional weight of Elrond and Durin’s storyline, along with too heavy a focus on Galadriel for the First Act, the film just crumbles into boredom and then, later on, confusion, as suddenly Galadriel is sidelined for 30-40 minutes (to make her travel from Numenor to Middle-Earth plausible within my movie canon, as I put weight on travel).
And the last episode was PATHETIC! I’ve given this show so much love and patience, and then this half-assed finale… blergh.
Now I need to figure out how to end it on a high, as the First and Second Act I find to work.
I’m pretty sure that the episode 5 Numenor content could be almost entirely cut without missing a beat. Just imply that there were always three ships going and show the characters in armor boarding them.
Yup, totally agree. ❤️
Thank you for that. All things noted.
I’m constantly falling in and out of love with the Star Wars universe, so I’m going to come back to this when I’ve fallen back in love with it.
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So far, I have a very film-like structure of the first 3 episodes ending at the 1 hour and 40 min mark, with the possibility of further cutting material depending on what the future episodes provide of character development and plot.
The Harfoots now provide the heart of the movie (thus far), the Galadriel storyline the Numènor (and human) plotline and “The elf guy” the main plotline. It all comes very obvious across that way, and makes the thin plot easier to follow and the overall structure of the series way more interesting in my honest opinion.
I tried with a different take on it to see how it would work, in where I had the prologue cut before Galadriel and her companions enter Morgoth/Sauron’s old leir, and then her waking up on the ship to Numènor. It kind of worked, up until I realized that most of her character development came from the first episode, and then it kinda goes into a stall.
Therefore, I reverted back to my linear structure.
The Harfoots don’t show up before the meteor crashes, the Southlands is introduced after Galadriel and Elrond’s conversation ends on “I want to hear more about your heroic tale” (or something of that ilk), and then intercutting the story threads up until a Act I climax when the Galadriel jumps into the ocean, the meteor crashes and the “Elf guy” is reunited with his old friends in the Orc Camp/Caves.
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It’s 8-episodes-a-season, so 40 hours.
I found a satisfactory way to cut Game of Thrones seasons into films - and GoT does a far better job than this one thus far imo - so I’m fairly confident one movie per Rings of Power season shall be conclusive enough. There’s way too much filler in the first two episodes alone that I’d say they have 50-55 minutes worth of content combined.
However, I like shaping things along the way and who knows - perhaps we’ll realize that there are tons of things to completely remove (or keep) further down the line.
And perhaps you are right in that one season will need two or three films. But, at least my goal will be 1-film-a-season (if plausible). Three episodes in, and I only really like the Harfoot girl, Elrond, the Nùmenôr Captain and possibly Galadriel’s human raft bud. Galadriel is a must to keep obviously, but I think the main chess players are on the board now and a structure based on those characters along with a hard focus on the (very thin) plot I think will make for one very strong movie in the end. But for now, yes, that’s just a guess.
… and then loads more. We’re talking about a 1000 different cuts here and several new audio mixes.
LOTR being my favorite trilogy of all time, this is an edit more for me than anything I’ve ever edited before. I think there’s things to salvage here.
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Good to hear the last few movie edits are coming along well.
Regarding SNOW - Is there a possibility you could go ahead with the darker ending for movie 10 (for us nihilist’s) and then once SNOW is released (a good year from now I’d say) produce an alternative cut of movie 10 so that show can follow on from it.
I think this would please on all fronts, however, I am fully aware of the work these edits take you. Just thought I’d mention my own preference early on and see what reaction you get from others about it.
Keep up the great work Anjohan.
I was thinking that, but then I realized; I’ve killed two major characters that definitely will show up in Snow, making it rather canon breaking and will probably render my film edits rather pointless for 90% that would want to use them for rewatch before Snow.