revel911 said:

Anjohan said:

• Episode 4 might have to be included (as I struggle to find a believable way to have the ship be tracked) without episode 4. Episode 4 also builds heavily upon Tala’s character (which they killed too early you ask me).

Why? A tracking device actually makes Vader letting Obiwan go even more likely.

I wonder if it’s easy to have it have Obi escape from Vader and remove the fire scene to only be tracked?

I am so excited to see better music in the movie version. The music is just so generic and that has surprised me (in a bad way.)

It does, but Lola being the tracker makes no sense in that case. And although we could remove Lola from EP 5, there is no way for the audience to understand how they tracked them, because:

A) No one talks about the tracker in ep5 (at least not without Reeva)
B) How did Reeva get the tracker on the ship? It could be implied that she did it when she follows Leia and Tala in the cave system in ep 3, but that also makes little to no sense
C) The hangar roof doors not opening plot line would have to be cut, which would reduce a lot of time, pace and plot
D) Tala’s screen time would be reduced to a mere 10 minutes, and her death would feel empty at best

• and yes, the series is being rescored way more than I thought and would like, but there you go.

Great points made by everyone. Been thinking about the changes I will need to make. Sitting her with a fever and the flu I suspect is corona again, I can’t bother to sit down and edit right now, but:

Things I will change:

• Reeva attempting to kill Vader will be the thing to interrupt him from grabbing the second ship, so there are no inconsistencies to his actions to leave Vader looking silly or with a drained stamina bar.

• Episode 4 might have to be included (as I struggle to find a believable way to have the ship be tracked) without episode 4. Episode 4 also builds heavily upon Tala’s character (which they killed too early you ask me).

• Reeva won’t get back up and crawl to the holo-communicator-thingy, we’ll leave her wounded, with the camera panning down to it. The rest can happen off-screen (for what I suspect to be the season 2 change rumored that Disney has done).

• Leia “The Engineer” reaching the wires and then fixing it will happen without a five minute gap. It looks like she’s struggling to move away wires for way too long.

• Removing some of the prolonged shots in which Stormtroopers have way too much time on their hands to actually kill civilians but just… don’t.

And probably more.

Part IV has to be cut. Episode 5 was decent enough. Gotta trim stuff for sure. A lot of things looked like a B movie, and there were some deliveries that were off.

The flashback with Anakin will probably be included when he’s in the Bacta Tank. I’ll also have to take a look at deepfaking his face. Or perhaps someone on YouTube will do it for me/for us.

This was episode 5, and the narrative overall has been very underwhelming thus far. Although the episode on its own was okay, the pay-off for FOUR episodes of literally two plot lines is just… pathetic?

Thank you. I’m re-doing the entire opening «matte» with a mix of rotoscoping, a model and a beautiful ANH rendition of the opening matte painting from YT.

The original opening matte has its charm, but Tattooine and the moons look like dry painting. Also, the Tantive IV has a decent CGI model online that works when it’s further away from the camera.

Hyperspace (Rough Cut) as promised:

https://streamable.com/b9u45i

Don’t know if it works, but it would help flow Rogue One and ANH a lot better as far as continuity goes. Great idea by BedeHistory.

As for the SC38 cut, not bad at all 21C Peasant. I like what you’re going for, and I will definitely try to retain as much of the original footage as possible. However, the hallway growing exceptionally wide is still something that will need fixing.

The idea of the two ships coming out of Hyperspace as a continuation of Rogue One was a neat idea, so I threw something together that I am way to tired to know if works or not, but here it is - rough around the edges;

Edit: forgot to upload with sound and tired af, will re-render tomorrow

SC38 will be mixed in at the end of the film, BUT - with that being said - I will definitely have to do a lot of rotoscoping work because there are many flaws between that footage and the original film. The background lights change intensity and sometimes shades of white all over the place, and the corridor also looks to get bigger as we switch to the SC38 footage. But I’ll have to see when I start work on that.

Also, I will definitely have to deepfake Alec Guinness for two shots having watched the footage back (luckily im half-decent with Deepfakes).

Sirius said:

Hi, Anjohan. I don’t know if your son already saw Rogue One, but lantern51 released an ANH edit that put the hallway scene of Vader in the beginning of the movie. It fits surprisingly well with ANH, and really make the movie feel more modern (it also can help into gather the attention of a younger audience). In his edit he included sc38 too, and it flowed really well with the rest of the film. If you have interest:

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/A-New-Hope-Vader-edition-Released/id/67644

As for including the hallway scene of Rogue One, It would be an awesome introduction to the film, but:

a) it would kind of de-canonize Rogue One or make it’s impact in the story less impactful if I take footage from it (for example if people want to do the Kenobi Show and Rogue One before watching Modernized)
b) the following 50+ minutes of the film (A New Hope) could end up feeling tonally inconsistent, as they are much more slow-paced and the movie overall has little to no action - it’s more an adventure movie with the occasional short battle. Such an opening could give the wrong impression and sell the film as a sci-fi action flick, when it is more The Wizard of Oz in space.

The arguement for including it could be that the film continues right from the end of Rogue One, but I don’t know. Haven’t really thought much about that.

revel911 said:

mrbenja0618 said:

I apologize if I missed it, but Bingowings suggested in another thread that eliminating most if not all of episode 2 and three, and just have Obi-Wan going straight to the fortress corrects a lot of problems. Yes, it eliminates the Vader fight, but I guess he agrees with me in that it wasn’t very good. Just my opinion.

It was never meant to be a fight … where it succeeded was obi fearing Vader … I thought that was much better than how bad episode 4 was.

This is how I interpret it as well.

As for the removal of EP 2 and 3, that could actually work. Tala could be a character that Obi-Wan just knows, her first scene with him could be in the ship on their way to the Mustafar System with him testing his force powers.

However, this would have to be someone else’s fanedit as it becomes too radical for the purposes of this one; which is to tone down dumb stuff and increase pace, emotion and (musical) continuity.

Cheers Sirius and CMMAP.

I’ll look into removing that one shot when I get back to the computer!

PMs sent.

antani said:

Ahhhh, this projects looks it has a bright future!

Loved the way you got motivated by your son to finally do it after 4 years! Would love to read his reaction after the movie is done!

The color grading and sound voices are pritty good from the samples you’ve shown!

Keep it up, Andreas! +1 motivation from me! ❤️

Thank you, antani, as always. I appreciate your feedback, old friend. ❤️

Sons motivate fathers, and fathers motivate sons!

Delpheas said:

I was also wondering, as a bridging thing if there’s some way to not have the film end on the celebration. It just feels odd and is a remnant of them not knowing of they’d get a sequel. The rebellion won a victory, but I feel like the party at the end shouldn’t be a medal ceremony but a memorial for the lost planet of Alderaan and the Rebel leader Bail Organa. That would carry more emotional weight, imo.

Also, someone on YouTube created a okayish-scene of Vader reporting to the emperor that he’s got the princess and sensed Kenobi, and is just about to flush out the Rebels. Something like that could be helpful just cus it feels awkward for the Emperor to be such a presence in 1-3, 5/6 and not here at all.

Both of these may be beyond the scope of this edit however.

I completely see where you’re coming from and it makes great sense. However, removing it would break immersion for most due to it being one of the film’s most iconic and expected moments, and would also leave the ending of the film very unsatisfactory mesa tinks.

Thank you for the suggestion though, it is just a tad too radical for what I want to achieve.

However, as for the Emperor, it would be interesting if i could find a way to include him in EP IV. Any ideas?

Good to hear, guys. Then we’ll keep it that way.

Second attempt at the line WITH Obi-Wan added. If the “Obi-Wan” still feels out of place I can remove it. To me the line feels more complete with it, but to each their own.

https://streamable.com/uv5jsn

Second update:

Also, this is a scene i did after ep 2, and the intention is to build The Force theme throughout the film. It starts very light and unfinished, and by the time Obi-Wan becomes his former self the theme grows stronger with him.

This is also the first time in the film I use a Prequel score, to build some suspense and adventure as Obi-Wan embarks on his new oath to protect the second child (35th minute in film structure).

https://streamable.com/6wnzw2

PodracingThisIs91 said:

I like Acbagel cut better for it feels more like Vader is actually trying to catch Kenobi (force extinguishing the fire a second time after an explosion that makes the fire bigger and harder to force jump across). Also, Vader saying nothing feels more in character to me than talking to no one. Vader is not a big talker.

I see your point, but I won’t do that. I think it diminishes Vader’s abilities if he is unable to get Kenobi in this situation. He extinguished the flames ten seconds prior to the second fire. In my eyes, if Vader actually really want to get him in this scene, he is - as far as I’m concerned - highly incompetent, which I don’t want him to be. He could extinguish the fires. He could force push or grab the droid. He could’ve summoned the three Inquisitors through the force to immediately hunt down Obi-Wan and Tala in their obvious route of escape through the canyon’s, listening and sensing for Obi-Wan’s screams in agony and presence. He could do a high leap over the flames. He could even throw over some of his own Stormtroopers if necessary. And on and on it goes.

Perhaps the line is not the best fit, but it does clarify - imo - that he is disappointed and will proceed his hunt when Kenobi has regained some of his confidence. The kill would not be a satisfactory one - as of yet.

revel911 said:

leftshoe18 said:

Anjohan said:

Video Update

https://streamable.com/uukjme

Tell me if you think this works. I did some re-editing to make the droid save Obi-Wan quicker, as suggested by Acbagel, and then re-structured the line (that i actually had removed from earlier) “The years have made you weak” with a slowed-down and disappoined “Obi-Wan” at the end of it. The purpose is to almost make Vader give up an immediate hunt because he is disappointed - but without it feeling to on the nose with something like “Escape. I will find you” or some clichè line you’ve heard in countless films and series.

I like this but I think you should cut the “obi-wan” out of Vader’s final words there simply ending on “weak”

The Obi-Wan on the end makes it feel very stitched together.

Or put Obiwan at the beginning

Could try that. I’ll see if it sounds better, or just remove Obi-Wan altogether. I could also make the “Obi-Wan” come in a tad quicker.

Video Update

https://streamable.com/uukjme

Tell me if you think this works. I did some re-editing to make the droid save Obi-Wan quicker, as suggested by Acbagel, and then re-structured the line (that i actually had removed from earlier) “The years have made you weak” with a slowed-down and disappoined “Obi-Wan” at the end of it. The purpose is to almost make Vader give up an immediate hunt because he is disappointed - but without it feeling to on the nose with something like “Escape. I will find you” or some clichè line you’ve heard in countless films and series.

Update

I have cut together and incorporated what one might call the “Cringeless” version of Episode 4 into my edit as a side-piece for when Episode 5 and 6 are here, and I mean that in the sense that the cut is ready for either an alternate version of the film (for those who want a complete experience of the show) or as a stand-by copy-paste into the final product if Episode 5 and 6 allow the structure of the film to have this (perhaps then more crucial) piece to the puzzle.

The cut goes something like:

Obi-Wan in ship, burned -> thrown into Bacta Tank (no Vader connection yet) -> Reeva interrogates Leia Part I, without cringe -> Obi-Wan is in bacta tank, connection and parallels with Vader are there - only one shot of them dueling as a PTSD memory rather than five intercuts with a duel that happened three minutes ago and also let’s us focus on the two, burned individuals -> Obi-Wan wakes up from Bacta, asks where is Leia -> Cut to Obi-Wan and Tala planning the invasion of the Inquisitor fortress -> Reeva interrogates Part II without cringe (Part III with the droid and the mindreading is gone, except for a few seconds of Reeva playing with the droid) -> then it proceeds chronologically, but without cringe and more intensely paced. I also strengthened Reeva’s character by her not interviewing and analyzing Tala for what feels like one hour instead of either mindreading, killing or taking her into custody (it goes something like: Obi-Wan saves Leia -> Tala has just been accused for lying, Reeva is interrupted by alarms, and goes to hunt Kenobi).

The content counts for 23 minutes in total, and puts the film from 1 hour and 27 minutes up to 1 hour and 50 minutes, and the flow felt way better than I expected. So this will be interesting to evaluate once we continue the editing journey.

I did have to re-score certain parts to not make the Episode cliffhanger’s feel like cliffhangers, which they all are - oh my - but this came across rather flawlessly imo.

I COULD render a beta version of the edit with the episode included, so that people can give feedback on both the cut as it stands and on their opinions as to what they feel about the second Leia kidnapping, but then again it would suck to “spoil the release” by rendering a BETA which I am not done perfecting or that ruin the “freshness” of watching the enitery of it. So I myself would vote against this for now.

Acbagel said:

Anjohan said:
Sadly, Episode 2 will be the Leia Kidnapped plot - and with the removal of a lot of cringe, believe me, it works a lot better. Seen the edit many a times now, and what removing dumb shit does for this series/film - you have no idea!

This I do believe! It’s actually astonishing how those little adjustments in removing the distractions help the entire experience. When the viewer isn’t constantly being pulled out of the show, everything just keeps building up and absorbing you in.

Couldn’t have been said better. Exactly. Spot on!

Anjohan, since it seems like we won’t be getting an explanation as to why Vader let Obi-wan leave in Episode 3 as he appeared angry about it in episode 4, I have cut a draft for how to make Obi-wan’s escape through the fire seem less like Vader intentionally let him go. Still would need a lot of soundtrack work but as a concept I thought something along these lines would make it more believable: https://streamable.com/kmx5y8

Impressive. Most impressive.

Besides the re-use of same shots one time too many, your idea is good nonetheless. I will edit it so that the droid is stand-by the moment the fire re-ignites, almost as part of the plan, and then leave it at that instead of re-using footage (not because it doesn’t necessarily work - i think I could make it work by adding some smoke effects and cropping the footage to make it distinct), but simply because I don’t think it is needed and it would still flow better.

This way, at least, it doesn’t seem like Vader has all the time in the world to make up his mind. Therefore, this was a brilliant idea - now we can also better assume that although Obi-Wan got away in a more believable way, Vader almost acknowledges to himself that he will find him again - and soon - and that the hunt gives him both purpose and some sort of twisted enjoyment, although he might have prefered to kidnap and torture Kenobi more right there and then and later on.

Artan42 said:

revel911 said:

Artan42 said:

CMMAP said:

Artan42 said:

You have to. I don’t know if episode 4 can be saved. It’s bad bad. No underwater security? Darth Vader now speed walks? Snow speeders just hover oddly? vader doesn’t kill failures? Obiwan thinks a trench coat for a disguise will work? I literally cannot think of one salvageable moment? What if Obiwan let the water come in and they will escaped through the water?

Either way it would be convinient and/or bad writing. How so? Obi-Wan doesn´t have the opportunity to look for a better disguise (per your argument) because the writers deem it to be that way. So your rhetorical questions running nowhere.

Unless the Empire has Bantha costumes knocking around for R&R events then there’s no disguise he could have worn at all that would have hidden Leia as well. That’s not the writing, that’s just bad viewing of a scene that doesn’t require other interpretation. Also bare in mind he made it to within a few metres of the shuttles so it must have been an effective disguise.

If Obiwan was in a Storm Trooper outfit with Leia in a supply crate being wheeled/hovered around, that could have worked. What if it wasn’t them caught, but then Tala for the earlier scene as a potential spy.

Because that wouldn’t have been quick. The point is to show the time crunch the escape is under, having time to change into a full set of armour and dig out a crate would not convey a hurried rush in the same was as throwing on a coat did.

The real question is why not bring more rebreathers and escape under water in the first place.

Agreed. I felt the same way. The disguise wasn’t meant to mindfuck people, it was more a “this looks weird but we’re in a wannabe sith fortress and there are a lot of weird aliens and generals all over the place” and just as people start to expect they’re already in the next area. I think people fooled themselfs because of their own belief in the authority and security of The Empire, not because the camouflage was flawless.

True… that should’ve been the plan. Could’ve also made for a cool underwater battle/chase. Some handheld submarine equipment with scary-sounding sounds and speed. Could’ve looked awesome and felt unique. Oh well.

jordanbcooper said:

How could you cut out episode 4 from this edit when we have the most emotionally moving part of the whole series here with the death of the legendary Wade?

There is no question in my mind that we have to keep Episode 4 for the purpose of such an emotional farewell. I am still in shock.

revel911 said:

Anjohan said:

A lot of good ideas and excellent discussions about the episode in here from the last day.

I honestly have no idea if I am going to include it or not as of yet - I haven’t even put it into my editing timeline, simply because I expect that the last two episode’s will be of great significance (they should!) and that I will have to cut this episode for pacing.

Unless episode 5 or 6 is filled with filler and useless or dumb moments, It might be hard to include this episode because no one would want to sit through a movie and watch a secondary/main character get kidnapped TWICE in the span of 50 minutes.

But let’s say that episode 5 is filled with about 20 out of 40 worthy minutes of content, and episode 6 the same, that would leave the possibility of an additional 20 minutes for the final cut - leaving some of the best from this episode in contention for screen time.

However, I deem it highly unlikely that the last two episodes will have a combined 40 minutes of wasted time, so this will be very, very interesting.

I have been wondering if you could make them part of the same kidnap?

I’ve thought about this, and it would turn this entire fanedit on it’s head, cause me to do major re-editing and would probably end up feeling too fanedit-y, so I’ve gone against it. Sorry. But yeah - this is what the writers should’ve done. The storyline of Ep 2 should be this, and the original Ep 2 shouldn’t even have been a thing (although I do enjoy the planet).

Sadly, Episode 2 will be the Leia Kidnapped plot - and with the removal of a lot of cringe, believe me, it works a lot better. Seen the edit many a times now, and what removing dumb shit does for this series/film - you have no idea!

Sirius said:

Anjohan, you plan to cut the Vader/Reva scene of episode 4? Because Vader calmly accepting Obi-Wan escaping in episode 3, and then Vader clearly pissed off that Obi-Wan escaped in episode 4 is too strange, at least for me. Two completely different reactions to the same fact, one hours after the other.

If I don’t include Episode 4 as a structure to the film, I won’t keep that scene in. So far I’ve found Reeva to be a horrid villain in all the wrong ways, and the less she speaks to Vader the better.

Phase3 said:

The odd thing I found with episode 4 was the exchange between Leia and Reva. It went on for far too long, with tired old dialogue found in a thousand other movies.
How about cutting it so that after Leia says “I’ll never tell you where they are”, Reva then gets the Stormtroopers to take Leia away. No more long-winded, boring conversations!

The Disney style of writing is atrocious…

The rest of the episode was great though! It’s so good to see Obi-Wan in action again!

Yes, if episode 4 is kept in the film structure this would be a preferable cut - without a doubt! Completely aree.

Hal 9000 said:

I could certainly see excising this episode almost entirely if 3 and 5 bridge well, if you’re trying to cram things into a ~2 hour movie. And that’s not to say I didn’t enjoy it.

Yeah, it is totally expendable - and I liked the episode a lot, so I’m excited for what the final two episodes will bring as far as worthy content.

Axios said:

Anjohan I really like that current edit of Vader in the village! And all your points are certainly fair. I greatly appreciate your interest in working with so many view points!

As for my feeling on the ep… Tbh I feel like if you cut any more of this ep (which I feel like it needs it here and there for pacing and dialog) it will be too short an excursion to even include in any meaningful manner…It is soooo easy to cut this ep out entirely as well. I dont know, like the rest of this show so far it had pretty cool moments (Jedi tomb, swimming into base and glass/water break) but they were few and far between with every other moment being average (not bad) and really dumb (Leia under the coat, slapping a storm trooper & sending him against a wall smh).

I’m no expert here but, I feel like this might just be useful for spare parts in future eps.

All in all, thoroughly disappointed so far (I had very high expectations for this show).

Thank you for that, Axios. For the fans, by the fans.

It is more likely to end up as a “spare sparts” episode than one added to the film structure as of now, but again, depends on how much content there is to work with from the last two episodes. I don’t want the film to exceed 2 hours and 50 minutes - and that is if the pacing is on point!

headtaker18 said:

And PS:

imagine how beautiful it will feel when The Force Theme plays as Obi-Wan prevents the glass from crushing down upon them, followed by him steering it towards the Stormtroopers.

And:

As for Darth Vader not killing Reeva for her “failure” (although she for the first time ever did something smart in this series you ask me), remember I don’t have the scene with Vader on his throne warning her, so this doesn’t create any problems whatsoever.

100% yes to The Force Theme, but one thing I’m curious about is the Reva scene, are you going to completely cut Vaders “YOU were warned what DEFEAT would bring!” line? Because it will feel a bit out of place considering the scene where he first talks to her in his castle is going to be cut. Maybe there’s some potential to reuse that scene somehow to transition into the final scene with the tracker on the ship? Something like:

Obi escapes Inquisitior fortress > Vader talks to Reva “don’t fail me again or you won’t live to regret it” “yes my lord” > final scene with Obi and Leia which pans down to the Droid with the tracker?

Apologies if it’s to wordy I’m just throwing stuff to see whats possible.

The little I’ve thought about this to be completely honest, I don’t think it will be much of a problem. I mean, it is obvious the Inquisitors are expendable - and I also find it obvious that The Inquisitors look up to Vader and see him as their superior. This way, as their superior, I think it should come across natural that any defeat would not sit well with Vader.

revel911 said:

RogueLeader said:

Found this rescore of the Vader scene from Ep 4 that might be up your alley for this edit.

https://youtu.be/uALjoXJ0qRU

Before the score is added, I wonder if his walk in can be slowed 10% to feel
more like Prowse.

If the scene is kept, I think I would just leave it. Since we have kept The Imperial March out of the film thus far, I think if we are to use it it should be in a scene where Vader goes absolutely mental - hopefully, fingers crossed, Episode 5 or 6.

A lot of good ideas and excellent discussions about the episode in here from the last day.

I honestly have no idea if I am going to include it or not as of yet - I haven’t even put it into my editing timeline, simply because I expect that the last two episode’s will be of great significance (they should!) and that I will have to cut this episode for pacing.

Unless episode 5 or 6 is filled with filler and useless or dumb moments, It might be hard to include this episode because no one would want to sit through a movie and watch a secondary/main character get kidnapped TWICE in the span of 50 minutes.

But let’s say that episode 5 is filled with about 20 out of 40 worthy minutes of content, and episode 6 the same, that would leave the possibility of an additional 20 minutes for the final cut - leaving some of the best from this episode in contention for screen time.

However, I deem it highly unlikely that the last two episodes will have a combined 40 minutes of wasted time, so this will be very, very interesting.

jrs81 said:

I originally hoped to get 2 movies out of these 6 episodes, now I’m questioning the possibility of just ONE quality movie edit.

I expected more out of an Obi-wan series, Lucasfilm needed a homerun from their greatest characters, Kenobi and Vader, and instead we get a lazy pop fly to center field. Just my 2 cents.

Here is hoping this community can do something special with this clunker because I have completely lost faith in Lucasfilm at this point. With that being said, it does have its moments, they are just few and far between.

This should always have been one, quality movie. I completely agree. I hope I or another faneditor can bring some joy to you from this mess. This episode worked for me, it didn’t work for you. However, our frustrations are the same and hopefully fanedits can salvage this immense clusterf* of bad/good dialogue, bad/good music, bad/good acting, bad/good action, bad/good character arcs and on and on it goes…

This series could have the tag “It’s bad… and it’s good… but the bad is really bad”. Removing the bad should help tremendously.

AND PS:

I also know that having watched the fanedit many times now (at 1 hour and 26 minutes up until the end of episode 3) without all the horrible dialogue and chase sequences, not to mention The Inquisitors, and an overall increased pace, I am way more optimistic than I was after Episode 2.

I hope that when you see so much of what you dislike gone, be it this or any other fanedit, you will find great(er) joy.

Don’t give up on Obi-Wan. He just needs some help 😄

jrs81 said:

If this was a 10 or 12 episode season, I think this episode would have been fine, but we have only 6 episodes and Obi-wan just fought Vader and was nearly killed. Instead of the emotional impact and ramifications this should have had on Obi-Wan, we have to deal with ANOTHER Leia rescue mission. These writers are awful. Zero creativity and lazy.

I completely see your point, but I would rather argue that Episode 2 is the true filler episode and that Episode 4 is the better-crafted episode with increased stakes and emotional weight, way more deserving of it’s place.

It should actually be Episode 1 -> Episode 4 -> Episode 3 -> Episode 5&6

If anyone wants to do a more radical edit then I think trying to remove one of the “Save Leia” plotlines, preferably Episode 2’s, could be a very interesting and perhaps immensely successful approach. For this edit, though, that would feel fanedit-y and perhaps break immersion for most, so I think that reducing the time spent on Episode 2 and increase the time spent on Episode 4 would be ideal. But again, this completely depends on the overall pacing of the fanedit - I might find myself having to remove most of this episode, only keeping the opening in the Bacta Tank and the end of Obi-Wan and Leia as suggested above.

As for now I will edit the episode into my timeline as “canon” for the edit, but I will definitely remove it if the last two episodes are immense (and important at that) in content.

What?

I mean, this one could be skipped. And depending on the last two episodes and their content of worth, I’ll take the removal of this episode into account when those are released, but what? Are we watching the same show?

This episode (despite some of Reeva’s dialogue and running) had the highest production value and interest of conflict thus far in the series for me, and the lack of security and intellectual stormtroopers (which, let’s face it, has been a thing since ANH) doesn’t ruin this for me.

This episode had me engaged from the get-go, and unless the last two episodes have so much content that keeping this episode would be impractical for the overall pacing, I think I would keep most of it.

And come on. The “the good guy gets away” has been a thing since 1977. Outside of Star Wars, it’s been a thing since the beginning of film. That Darth Vader gave up a hunt I think we all can assume he finds amusing and fills him with purpose doesn’t break immersion for me the slightest. I’ve come to expect that.

This was levels above episode 1 and 2.

The underwater sequence, the Jedi tombs, the torture device, Leia grabbing Obi-WAN’s hand at the end, the music finally delivering, Obi-Wan finding back to his Jedi ways, Tala as a character, the shot of the stormtroopers drowning, the probe droid hunting Obi-Wan - searching through the glass window with the eerie music… this episode had memorable, emotional, intense moments!

And of course, perhaps since I went in with insanely low expectations this time around, perhaps I also saw more value in the episode, but this was a 8/10 for me.

And PS:

imagine how beautiful it will feel when The Force Theme plays as Obi-Wan prevents the glass from crushing down upon them, followed by him steering it towards the Stormtroopers.

And:

As for Darth Vader not killing Reeva for her “failure” (although she for the first time ever did something smart in this series you ask me), remember I don’t have the scene with Vader on his throne warning her, so this doesn’t create any problems whatsoever.

lavoyd said:

My Star Wars radar must be broken because my friends all criticized the same things, yet I found myself thoroughly enjoying this episode. The Snow Speeders were a bit shoddy but it wasn’t so bad that it bothered me.

It isn’t broken at all if you ask me. I agree with you.

And the Snow Speeders aren’t actually Snow Speeders. They were used in other climates as well throughout Star Wars lore.

Update

So, another little showcase:

I realized quickly when I was editing late last night that as much as I will have to replace or update old, compressed music, I will also have to do something about certain sound effects and not to forget dated visual effects. So for this example, I go with when R2-D2 is zapped by Jawa’s.

https://streamable.com/y9nazb

Changes:

• Added glow and intensity to existing Visual Effect
• Regraded original visual effect
• Added color and glow to rocks with Jawa’s as R2-D2 is being zapped
• Replaced Shot SFX
• Added electrecution SFX
• Added glow to rocks to the right of R2-D2 before shut off
• Re-compressed and modernized all existing sound effects (this goes for the original footage in the clip as well)

IlFanEditore said:

I’m soooo hyped for this edit. I tried to do something similar, but with my - let’s say - limited capabilities I was only able to change colors here and there, add some suns to space shots and add music.
Even if obviously it’s a WIP, and anything can change from day to day, I’m really looking forward to this.

Thank you for that, FanEditore. I hope it will work as a great bridge for Prequel and OT lovers alike.

G&G-Fan said:

Anjohan said:

I’m not following. You mean the emperor’s theme?

No I mean this

https://youtu.be/ZK52tEenER8?t=403

Ah, got’cha. Brilliant. Thanks for the link, G&G. Will definitely be re-scoring the end with that.

Update

https://streamable.com/o56pu8

I’ve been rotoscoping and tweaking the scenes with R2-D2 and C-3P0 on Tattooine now for the better part of a week, and am looking forward to showing you all how they now look compared to the original footage.

The original footage of them in the desert is unfocused at places, colors are changing and especially C-3P0 changes color and sharpness and goes in and out of focus due to what I suspect are changes to the sun’s placement on the sky as they were filming the scenes.

The scenes also jump up and down in overall brightness and contrast. This is fixed.

Changes:

• I modernized the shots with changes to the skies and the colors around them
• I have, as best I can, kept the colors and focus on R2-D2 and C-3P0 consistent throughout their movements in the desert
• I have increased the quality of the ambience
• Improved overall dialogue compression as to make their interactions sound renewed and modern

… and a lot of rotoscoping on C-3P0.

VIDEO:

https://streamable.com/o56pu8

Upcoming Changes:

• Add glow to C-3P0’s eyes on close-up’s.
• Try to add even more focus to the two droids in the establishing shot
• Add more focus to C-3P0’s (who’s kinda out of focus/blurred out) in the shot at 0:40)

G&G-Fan said:

One thing you could do to modernize this movie is to use the version of the throne room theme from the ROTS soundtrack.

I’m not following. You mean the emperor’s theme?