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#1504026
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The Rings of Power - The Film Cut [Act I -> Act II -> Act III]
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So far, I have a very film-like structure of the first 3 episodes ending at the 1 hour and 40 min mark, with the possibility of further cutting material depending on what the future episodes provide of character development and plot.

The Harfoots now provide the heart of the movie (thus far), the Galadriel storyline the Numènor (and human) plotline and “The elf guy” the main plotline. It all comes very obvious across that way, and makes the thin plot easier to follow and the overall structure of the series way more interesting in my honest opinion.

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#1504025
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The Rings of Power - The Film Cut [Act I -> Act II -> Act III]
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I tried with a different take on it to see how it would work, in where I had the prologue cut before Galadriel and her companions enter Morgoth/Sauron’s old leir, and then her waking up on the ship to Numènor. It kind of worked, up until I realized that most of her character development came from the first episode, and then it kinda goes into a stall.

Therefore, I reverted back to my linear structure.

The Harfoots don’t show up before the meteor crashes, the Southlands is introduced after Galadriel and Elrond’s conversation ends on “I want to hear more about your heroic tale” (or something of that ilk), and then intercutting the story threads up until a Act I climax when the Galadriel jumps into the ocean, the meteor crashes and the “Elf guy” is reunited with his old friends in the Orc Camp/Caves.

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#1503451
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The Rings of Power - The Film Cut [Act I -> Act II -> Act III]
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It’s 8-episodes-a-season, so 40 hours.

I found a satisfactory way to cut Game of Thrones seasons into films - and GoT does a far better job than this one thus far imo - so I’m fairly confident one movie per Rings of Power season shall be conclusive enough. There’s way too much filler in the first two episodes alone that I’d say they have 50-55 minutes worth of content combined.

However, I like shaping things along the way and who knows - perhaps we’ll realize that there are tons of things to completely remove (or keep) further down the line.

And perhaps you are right in that one season will need two or three films. But, at least my goal will be 1-film-a-season (if plausible). Three episodes in, and I only really like the Harfoot girl, Elrond, the Nùmenôr Captain and possibly Galadriel’s human raft bud. Galadriel is a must to keep obviously, but I think the main chess players are on the board now and a structure based on those characters along with a hard focus on the (very thin) plot I think will make for one very strong movie in the end. But for now, yes, that’s just a guess.

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#1503419
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The Rings of Power - The Film Cut [Act I -> Act II -> Act III]
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With the first three episodes now released, the first act of the series is pretty much set in stone and in all the disarray, confusion and online hate I see a lot of potential as well.

I’m definitely not on the bandwagon of trashtalking the show down and beyond - which is the norm these days for attention, togetherness and views and clicks, but I’m definitely agreeing on a lot of the constructive criticism of the show.

I’m not going to beat around the bush on this edit, so I’ll just go straight to it:

The Major beats of my changes:

-> Film/series color graded slightly (too remove a tad bit too much of children-fantasy-look at certain scenes) and a slight grain (nothing too noticeable) added.
-> Removal of dialogue too on the nose, way too Hollywood (keyword: predictable structuring of dialogue or “suspense lines”)
-> Characters will show up when important to the plot, and grow organically and steadily into the show - even with it’s very thin plot (up until Ep 3 at least). This way, it won’t feel as slow-paced and characters that are not yet of importance won’t waste your time on the screen.
-> Harfoots/Hobbits plotline is sharpened and structured. Ep 1-2’s storyline and introduction of (so far) many unimportant characters is extremely tiresome and will annoy most “attuned-to-cinema” viewers.
-> Galadriel has an intruiging backstory and actress imo, but her way too strong introduction and at times very tiresome dialogue (all mostly issues from the first 2 episodes, episode 3 way better here) is doomed to set a lot of audiences into shock and cringe mode. Therefore, Galadriel’s way too IM A STRONG FEMALE introduction is finely tuned into something more of a “IM A STRONG CHARACTER” introduction. This way, she can grow organically into the story and not come across as a character with too strong a skillset and personality for the viewer to understand that she - as all other good characters in a good story - will grow and learn as one.
-> CGI Wolf from Ep 3 is gone. I was surprised at how bad the CGI was here when everything else has been beautiful, and also the logistics of the “action” scene were disappointing and insulting.

… and then loads more.

LOTR being my favorite trilogy of all time, this is an edit more for me than anything I’ve ever edited before. I think there’s things to salvage here. And Ep 3 was a vast improvement in character development.

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#1495851
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GAME OF THRONES - FILM IV-X [Community Thread]
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MoviesGamesMusic said:

Good to hear the last few movie edits are coming along well.

Regarding SNOW - Is there a possibility you could go ahead with the darker ending for movie 10 (for us nihilist’s) and then once SNOW is released (a good year from now I’d say) produce an alternative cut of movie 10 so that show can follow on from it.

I think this would please on all fronts, however, I am fully aware of the work these edits take you. Just thought I’d mention my own preference early on and see what reaction you get from others about it.

Keep up the great work Anjohan.

I was thinking that, but then I realized; I’ve killed two major characters that definitely will show up in Snow, making it rather canon breaking and will probably render my film edits rather pointless for 90% that would want to use them for rewatch before Snow.

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#1495652
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GAME OF THRONES - FILM IV-X [Community Thread]
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So, work will now continue on Film 7 and 8 (and workprints are already made for 7-10).

Film 7 is shaping along very nicely, and 7 and 8 - which I thought would be the two weaker installments - are turning out to be two of my favorite installments, feeling I’ve found the right balance between what’s good in the later story and removing or majorly altering what’s bad.

Also, with the news of a “Snow” show on the horizon, I MIGHT have to wait to release Film 10 until we have a first season of the show. It COULD completely alter the ending of the main show and therefore this series, if we somehow can salvage “lesser” parts.

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#1495570
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KENOBI: A STAR WARS STORY [RELEASED] [5.1 Surround]
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vranir said:

I cut the vanilla rescue significantly in my sub-edit. Basically, ObiWan sets off the explosion, goes into back, opens 1 door, then the one where Leia is, and then leaves with her. There’s no opposition, because it’s all part of the trap.

Yes, that’s how I had it too before I did the new rescue. It really works the best. Everything in the original rescue is bad af, which is why I prefer the alternate one, but I understand people wanting the vanilla instead of the chocolate.

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#1495550
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KENOBI: A STAR WARS STORY [RELEASED] [5.1 Surround]
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homelyjedi said:

Anjohan said:

Yes, PM’s sent. Sorry for delay. I’m on holiday.

Btw, when I get back home, I’ll render a “Original Structure” Cut without the alternate escape. Some love it, some hate it - so damn it - I’ll have two available.

that makes me very happy to hear. i hope i didn’t come across as overly critical in my post. i think your edit is inspired. although there are other small changes i would personally make, without the alternate escape THIS is the edit i choose to add to my collection.

Absolutely not. Thank you for your honesty. Taste is taste - and making two versions doesn’t cost me many calories, as I simply just have to reinsert an old scene and then move the timeline to fit. The second cut will be even shorter tho, probably going from 2 hours and 14 minutes to 2 hours and 10 minutes or something.

That being said, I’ll remove some stupid things from the rescue in the Second Cut (Original Rescue), like Obi-Wan struggling so hard to fight some random goons, getting captured and all that vodoo.

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#1494849
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KENOBI: A STAR WARS STORY [RELEASED] [5.1 Surround]
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I’m on holiday, so I’ve not got much time on my hands to respond to reviews either here or in PM’s, but I’m happy to hear a lot of you like the edit. 😃

For those that have mixed feelings or dislike major beats, then this edit simply isn’t for you - and that is fine.

I am very much satisfied and fulfilled with this version, and this is the Kenobi edit for me. If I do a V3 it will be small, minor tweaks that can improve either tone, pacing or inconsistencies. Nothing structure-wise.

Have a great summer, and may the force be with you! 😃 ❤️

Jedit:

Oh, and @tangelo1023, thank you for your review, but I fundamentally disagree with almost everything you point out (except that you were confused about the comm with Haja, I’ll clean that up some more next time)- and that is fine. This edit is just not your cup of tea, and I hope someone else’s is. Thank you for watching it and taking the time, and although we have different views on the editing philosophy and perhaps even tone for a Kenobi film, we sure do share the same passion.

Have a great day, friend, and thank you for your honesty. ❤️