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- #1616611
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- HARRY POTTER: Revisited [Updates and Info]
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1616611/action/topic#1616611
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The Statues theme is a «Epic Version» from YouTube that i slowed down and added reverb and a darker pitch to.
New soundmix alterations (Hogwarts sounds like itās crashing together, wind shifting in when Bellatrix crush window, āStatuesā is introduced to strengthen the scene in DH even further (might not remain - Iām not 100% yet), color grade is completely redone, Fang is heard struggling and dying in the background when Bellatrix puts Hagridās hut on fire and more.
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Brilliant!
Dang⦠Iām sorry to hear that you were disappointed with Season 2 and that youāre struggling with it in regards to your second film. I had actually finished the series yesterday and came here to see if you had started work on a second film. lol.
Also, good to see that a finished definitive version of your first film is now released!
Well, as much as I dislike a lot of stuff with Rings of Power - the stuff they do well when you remove the fluff is brilliant.
Iām way into the works on my Film II, and I blame my OCD.
Happy to hear! I think itās sold now.
Take your precious time, man. We, myself included, are more than eager to wait for the final result! š
Thank you for that, my friend.
Thank you all for the kind words and feedback. Iāll take a mental rest before I continue tweaking the new deepfake to a finale state, and will continue with the audio mixing and color grading for now.
So Iāve worked my ass off for a couple of days to nail a continuity issue of CoS Tom Riddle and HbP Tom Riddle. They are played by two very different actors, with very different face structures. Therefore - you canāt just simply replace their face fully, although I liked the result (it actually looked really creepy).
However, balancing their main features together did wonders - and after the inital 20 different deepfake renderings with way too much masking work in Premiere Pro thereafter, Iām pleased with what I have. It is NOT finished, but it is - as I look at it now without rest - okay to good in all places. If it works over all however, I leave up to you guys.
Besides this Iām about 40% finished with the color grading of HbP. The film is so desaturated and dark that it is a nightmare to reinvent it with a color palette that is both flattering as well as wonderous. You can see some of the color grading in the clip above. Youāve all probably forgot how it initially looks in the film, but to put it like this: Dumbledoreās office scenes originally look like they were filmed through 5 inches of brown mud. It doesnāt any longer.
Color Grading this film isnāt as easy as it looks. Every time you increase brightness another area needs darkening. Every time you saturate a color ten different ones need desaturation. Every time you change a tone of a scene or a closeup you have to mask and change the skin tones. In other words; it is a nightmare to color grade this film, but itās getting there and itās getting near satisfying to look at. Hopefully it is likewise for you.
This will be the only Harry Potter film where I focus on adding a horror nod to the genre. The film explores murder, death and splitting the soul - it is also fitting for a 15+ year old audience. Therefore I have a couple of⦠horror shots in this film.
I was so underwhelmed by this film. And I really diminished my expectations before watching it because these Hollywood films of late usually bring with them disappointment.
Alien: Romulus felt very thin. The Rook cameo went way overboard and he became like a main character. The characters were paperthin. I felt for the Robot guy and his relationship with the main character, but it quickly came to a stop when they āforced conflictā with his āmy brain chip is taking overā story. It felt so predictable and done-before and lost all emotional weight to me, so that when we finally reached the end I couldnāt bother with any of them.
Ah man⦠such a bummer.
Highlight thoā! The Prometheus/Xeno Combo at the end was truly horrifying in the initial reveal! He shouldāve been introduced a good 10 minutes earlier and lurking in the shadows like Michael Myers whilst he tries to get to understand his body and her character.
The only thing that I think could improve this film is removing a lot of Rook and a good bunch of deleted scenes (if there are any) that develop crucial character moments. As for now this film was so thin I have no interest in ever watching it again.
Prometheus was better. A lot better.
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I think all PMs should be sent/answered. If not, PM me (again).
Thank you for your kind words and reviews, and Iāll happily respond throughout the week. Have a great weekend!
The new and improved cut is now finished and released.
In my opinion⦠the best I can possibly turn this series into, and the only version that my girlfriend actually liked and really enjoyed - so that must count for something (she hated the series, and found my original cut too long and boring because she didnāt like Galadriel).
The restructing is done from scratch, so is all audio and visual work, but some ideas from the original cut were kept.
Sure, I can render two files. š
Oh man⦠I donāt know, guys. I just feel like maybe Rings of Power should just be one big movie. I was almost done with my new recut of the film (which I find more pleasing and with a more intense runtime than the previous) and was getting ready to make Film II but Iām feeling so uninspired after these latest episodes, including āthe big battleā of 8 elves and 12 orcs and the characters involved.
In season 1 Galadriel had the death of her brother and the betrayal of a friend to deal with. Elrond had a broken friendship with his Dwarf friend. Sauron had an internal battle with who he was and wanted to be. And Durin had Elrond, his wife and his father to balance the scales with - and Nori had stuff that was important. For all of season 1ās faults; there were emotion and there were stakes.
This season, though⦠Galadriel is⦠angry at being deceived⦠Elrond is⦠just⦠running about. Sauron is mvp as f*ck, but thereās no arc or emotional stake to his story, and therefore he has no potential as a captivating main character for the second film. And neither does Durin, only battling with his wife and father inside a cave.
And Arondir⦠i mean⦠after Bronwynās sudden departure they just have no idea what to give him or use him for.
And as for the Harfoot storyline (which i initially was very hopeful for) is a joke at this point.
My point is; there are no emotional stakes to build Film II upon⦠which is heartbreaking, but true. And if there are no emotional stakes, no arcs and no story - then what is there? Well. Then itās just visuals, isnāt it.
So, what I think Iāll do is finish up Film I for a re-release (that is now a proper, full release with subtitles seperate) at a runtime of 2 hours and 44 minutes with credits - opposed to 3 hours and 45 minutes as it was previously. And then, I might go to works on Film II and try to craft a narrative that is captivating enough for a shorter film, and then hopefully season 3 brings some emotional weight to the story that we can kind of āend the film seriesā on a high somewhere down the line.
Ah man⦠Iām just so disappointed. I love the Lord of the Rings universe, and the first two episodes of season 2 filled me with hope. But this⦠oh man. Itās the hope that kills yahā. Anyway, there should be enough from season 1 and 2 to craft a compelling 90 minute sequel film. Get to it, I supposeā¦
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I will tell you. They should hire a group of very talented writers that write an outline for every upcoming in-universe spinoff, movie, tv and animation series for the next 6-10 years and stick to the plan and stick with continuity.
The fact that Star Wars has been like a badly-written fanfiction novel with continuity holes and āfill in the blanksā, by 40 different directors and writers with completely different goals and backgrounds with total disregard for what came before or what is to come, is one of the main reasons i struggle to take anything - especially in this day and age - from Star Wars seriously.
There are about 10-50 retcons a year just in the live action stuff alone, not to mention that they hire people with completely different agendas and lacklusters movie backgrounds; often not focused on the story aspect but more on how they look in the eyes of Hollywood, is a core problem and a core issue in crafting horrible inconsistencies in both the writing and the visual styles. Star Wars just completely lacks the feeling of being a real place somewhere (WHAT? ITS NOT?) where decisions, characters and deaths (!) matter.
Every single year a novel or a comic book is written to explain away bad writing or things that didnāt work. Every single year a big thing is retconned from the main stories. Every single year a show is either cancelled or the people behind it fired. Every single year they switch out a director for someone āfresh and new and excitingā thatās - to be frank - has maybe only helmed a friggin documentary or a childrenās movie before.
Disney Star Wars to me, and my friends,- looking outwards and in, looks to us as a nine-year old kid writing a fanfiction for h*r friend - and when the show is somehow picked up by a serious network, the dad tries to fill in the thousand blanks and the confusing dialogue in a very limited timeframe. Itās just⦠chaos⦠anarchy.
Simply put; taking modern Star Wars seriously is like trying to hold in a laugh when youāve already got the giggles.
How to fix? Take what came before seriously and respectfully and treat what you want to write for the future in the same regard. When you helm something as large as this you need to write OUTLINES and focus on the CONTINUITY of not just the writing, characters and the visual style but also in who you hire that can honor what came before and put all of this as an overarching narrative for all upcoming projects (in live-action at least, where the main publicās eyes are resting).
PM sent with some initial thoughts.
All in all, brilliant fanedit and choices you have taken - like the Harfoot storyline and the structure of the opening 50 minutes (apart from some Harfoot choices) are great, and have definitive bits I will have to borrow for the re-structure of my own.
OBS! And as mentioned in PM, this is based on the first 80-90 minutes, as I want to respectfully give priority to the rest rather than have to skim through it for quick thoughts.
Brilliant, as I would suspect. ā¤ļø
Hello, Matt, and thank you for those compliments. Greatly appreciated.
After watching the first two episodes of RoP Season 2 (one to go still), I would most definitely agree with you. I have an idea already on how you could remove literally 60 percent of season 1 whilst still keeping the Sauron twist, and going straight to the Middle-Earth action that we all came here for.
I think that if Galadriel and Halbrand split up very shortly after their encounter on the fleet (and or a very brief visit to Numenor), followed by the Rings either being already-made or being made in the opening hour of the film, would give great urgency to the story and allow it all to unfold rather sharply.
And Numenor should most definitely be a sidelined plot, with parts of it mayhaps used later down the road.
I think I might remake the entire Rings of Power structure when this season is done, and split them up in two films with greater focus.
And! Bronwyn must most definitely die during the first battle in the Southlands, seeing as how i wanted high stakes in season 1 that never really came (now they can) and since the actress didnāt return.
This way you could have five plots going on at the same time:
Dancing between these outlines from both seasons I think will craft two strong movies in the long run.
Sorcererās Stone and Chamber of Secrets have been updated. They are sharper and crisper, with a few impovement tweaks here and there.
Hey, bro! If you plan on recolouring Fred and Georgeās joke shop in HBP, you might want to have a look at this incredible video by GamesDirect!
https://youtu.be/HHxF2PrgzsA (Perhaps not exactly like this, but brighter and more vibrant to contrast the darkness of the rest of the film.)
Thank you for that video, Cam. Iām already done color grading half the movie and agree with almost everything the YouTuber said. But I think he went a little too bright in the midtones.
Thank you so much for continuing this very long project!
One question based on an initial skim though: is the volume range the same for all of these? It sounds to me like Order of the Phoenix is significantly louder at all times than Sorcererās Stone (not sure about the others).
I tried to play the two of them right after the other on my home cinema system, and couldnāt hear much difference, except that the dialogue is a little bit lower on SS perhaps.
JEDT: A google search revealed to me that many have complained on Reddit that Sorcererās Stone and CoS have worse audio than the rest in the series, and many complain about the dialogue. Now, for me, when I go through my audiomixes I focus a lot on audio and have certain filters applied to make them loud and crisp. However, thatās not to say that the main differences would still be there. So yes, OotP and SS might be a tad different in overall audio level quality. Now that I am aware of this, perhaps I will lower OotP on a re-render in the future with about 5-10% or vice versa. I need to listen to them back to back and see if itās actually necessary as well. I mean, the volume button is a wonderful thing, but then again - as the perfectionist Iām trying to be, Iād love for it to be as balanced as possible.
Thank you for pointing it out, Vranir ā¤ļø (By the way, Iām halfway through your Rings of Power edit and loving the cuts and pace thus far).