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#1312709
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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orchidal said:

Anjohan said:

I’m just going to have to say this: we can edit this trilogy as much as we’d like (I am doing it too), but one thing is for sure - this trilogy is an underwhelming, conflicting and highly uninteresting mess. I hope and think that we can achieve a 30% overall improvement to the trilogy with edits, but there is no way in hell we’ll go anywhere

above that.

Semi-agree. I’ve yet to see a TFA cut that holds my interest throughout (are there any good TFA edits that are 100 minutes or less?..because a film that unexciting should at least be short in length!). TLJ’s Fallen Knight edit really elevates the film by cutting off the fat/corny humor/subplots. Had that been what was shown in theaters I would have absolutely loved it. However, I think that TRoS’s retcons, SW-Universe-shrinking reveals, and recoilings are a new challenge to fanediting entirely.

Oh boy, do I agree. TFA is like, the worst out of all three for me. It’s just plain dull. It takes no risk. It’s just a pat on the back.

And no, there isn’t. I’m trying to edit the film into something bearable and is at 1 hour and 56 minutes, and that is with Starkiller Base removed AND Snoke. But what sticks through is the boring characters…

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#1312703
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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I’m just going to have to say this: we can edit this trilogy as much as we’d like (I am doing it too), but one thing is for sure - this trilogy is an underwhelming, conflicting and highly uninteresting mess. I hope and think that we can achieve a 30% overall improvement to the trilogy with edits, but there is no way in hell we’ll go anywhere

above that.

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#1310514
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STAR WARS: Episode 7 &amp; 8 [Trilogy enhancement] - Released
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Biggs Audio Dynamite said:
Ah, I see you have decided. Sorry (though still a good idea 😃 The volume was an issue for me, but I thought the Snoke voice was very good - and was just change of tone, or attitude, from within him.

Oh man, you guys make it really hard for me. My hope was that people would think he just changed his tone over to a whispering soft one, and here you come say it out loud. Now you are itching my brain.

Maybe I’ll give it another shot, to see if it’s possible to improve with a little more pause from “Original Snoke voice” to “New Snoke Voice” to make the shift clearer, and some volume adjustments.

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#1310320
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STAR WARS: Episode 7 &amp; 8 [Trilogy enhancement] - Released
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CarboniteSolo said:

I would love to see a scene at the end of TFA, when Han is killed, we get a quick cutaway (like in Empire when Luke was on the Falcon talking to Vader) First Leia, knowing Han was just killed, then Luke, as he feels it also. That’s how I would have done that scene originally. It would have mirrored Empire. That would have been Luke’s first scene. Fans would have gotten that.

I don’t get why they don’t get this when making new Star Wars films.

It’s definitely not a bad idea, and I can absolutely see the emotional weight to that. The only problem is; if I, or anyone, should do this, it completely ruins the surprise of Luke at the end (that he is on the island, how he looks etc.)

Of course, what could be done - is a quick close-up of his eyes/face, perhaps followed with a shocked gasp, thereafter followed by Leia’s reaction. This way, I wouldn’t have to ruin the surprise (completely).

Also, doing this would remove the very beautiful “Falcon… wait… Where’s Han?” scene and the “Luke mourning Han”. Because this thought process would have happened already. In other words, it would remove even more humanization from Luke in The Last Jedi - and he’s very dark in that movie (although not nearly as somber in mine - or unstable).

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#1310313
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STAR WARS: Episode 7 &amp; 8 [Trilogy enhancement] - Released
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FreezingTNT2 said:

Anjohan said:

idir_hh said:

I’m not saying you do a bad voice impression of Snoke,I just think its noticeably different and it might be a little jarring for some.

I don’t disagree. I just wanted to know if its passable.

I need more input from people here. If not enough input, or people find it jarring, I simply will remove it. This was an afterthought.

Why not just cut up audio clips of Snoke speaking and re-arrange them to make new dialogue, like how the “Despacito 2” parody video remixed existing audio clips from Despacito? (Yeah, I know that it’d sound a little choppy and sometimes robotic, but at least it’d be close to what Snoke’s voice sounds like)

This was my original idea, but it didn’t work out nearly as good as this from the post above. And also, I don’t really think that works well enough either.

So I’m probably going to stick with the original cut, unless I dub Snoke into a foreign Alien language and subtitle him. Kylo Ren/Ben knowing his language would be plausible, having been under his command for recent years.

If I should pursue either of these ideas, I would have to start work; tonight.

I want these two edits out the same day that Rise of Skywalker releases. They’ve been in the works for too long. I want people to experience these two films as much more original pieces to the Star Wars saga than what they were presented as.

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#1310299
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STAR WARS: Episode 7 &amp; 8 [Trilogy enhancement] - Released
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idir_hh said:

I’m not saying you do a bad voice impression of Snoke,I just think its noticeably different and it might be a little jarring for some.

I don’t disagree. I just wanted to know if its passable.

I need more input from people here. If not enough input, or people find it jarring, I simply will remove it. This was an afterthought.

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#1310247
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STAR WARS: Episode 7 &amp; 8 [Trilogy enhancement] - Released
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oojason said:

Anjohan said:

I need some feedback on this approach, before I either give it the green light or the bin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl7oIDRXkmw

This change is to TRY and up Kylo’s stakes in the film, and also make his motivation later on to betray Snoke clearer. Audio happily borrowed from a YouTuber.

I like the concept of it quite a lot and think it does up the stakes and give an insight into why Kylo may feel he is being played for a fool by Snoke (afterall, Kylo has already killed his dad…)

It did require a few repeat viewings to hear clearly what Snoke was saying - despite that it was some good voice acting (just the audio levels were a little off) - or I need another hearing test 😉

I think it is a solid idea, mate.

Cheers, bud. I agree. He should by now feel that Snoke is only using him to get rid of important figures, not by any concern or care for him.

I will heighten the audio levels a small fraction at the words I think are the hardest to hear, but on my Home Cinema System it does sound alright.

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#1310242
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STAR WARS: Episode 7 &amp; 8 [Trilogy enhancement] - Released
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FreezingTNT2 said:

Anjohan said:

  • All the SW films have a saber duel, so I’ve borrowed Snoke’s Guard’s sequence with lightsabers. However, I might give them different colors (perhaps they all have purple instead of red, or two of them with purple and the rest red).

Also Anjohan:

  • Luke has his original saber (green) during the Kylo confrontation.

Hehe, DUEL. Not saber showcasing. “look at my saber while i dodge your attacks” doesn’t count!

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#1310120
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STAR WARS: Episode 7 &amp; 8 [Trilogy enhancement] - Released
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Thank you, my friends. Means a lot! ❤️

Someone asked me two questions on the videos, but I’ll answer them here for clearity:

  • No, there will be no voice over/additional lines to Luke in the opening scene. This would only work if he actually said a line first.

  • Yes, Luke mourning his dearest friend is of course included, and instead of the scene transition to Leia (which i thought was more important to give to Kylo to strengthen their relationship) we move along with a beautiful shot of the island and another scene with Luke and Rey. It might sound stale for some, but I think it works beautiful.

Also, have in mind; Luke and Leia get their two moments later on in the film. One when Luke transfers some of his remaining powers to her, and the second on “Insert Hoth 2”.

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#1309975
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STAR WARS: Episode 7 &amp; 8 [Trilogy enhancement] - Released
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Luke’s handeling of the saber: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFRGy8rm3iQ

Luke agrees to train Rey, once she gives her a speech about Leia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSiBwwVvNNo

Rey’s first training lesson (Not completely finished): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-TwFCido9g

  • For this sequence; audio is not completely finished (cleaned up), and I want a better Rey to Kylo transition. I might also change the soundtrack.

Kylo’s inner turmoil, and Leia’s heartbreak over her son: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCfk7kqmoEg

Have in mind that none of these clips are fully completed, but very near.

OFFICIAL UPDATES:

  • Luke has his original saber (green) during the Kylo confrontation.
  • All the SW films have a saber duel, so I’ve borrowed Snoke’s Guard’s sequence with lightsabers. However, I might give them different colors (perhaps they all have purple instead of red, or two of them with purple and the rest red).
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#1309011
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STAR WARS: Episode 7 &amp; 8 [Trilogy enhancement] - Released
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TFA Updates:

  • Make Han Solo less of a Smuggler, and more like a rogue. It’s more up to the audience to choose his occupation for this film. All we know, and need to know, is that he and Leia parted ways due to Kylo Ren’s turn to the dark side. That broke their hearts, and Han Solo needed to part ways and do something on his own. This includes alterting the Rathar sequence (which is also heavily trimmed in this edit from beforehand).
  • Rey does not pilot The Falcon like a God. Or like Han Solo. She barely gets the ship of its feet, does a turn - gives Finn the oppurtunity to fire on the Tie-Fighter - and then they leave the planet in a hurry. I despise The Falcon sequence on Jakku, main reason being Rey’s magical handeling of it.
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#1308576
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STAR WARS: Episode 7 &amp; 8 [Trilogy enhancement] - Released
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DougieP said:

Anjohan said:

Removing Snoke is also to make Kylo the main baddie, to not hype up “The new emperor” before his death in TLJ - and therefore not disappointing the audience upon Snoke’s death in TLJ as much as it did. His TLJ death will now not be as devestating to the overall plot (because he was now not foreshadowed to be the main baddie).

I don’t think that it was his presence that hyped Snoke up. I mean, why didn’t Yoda sence this extra dark side presence at any point? What was he doing during episodes 1-6? He is stronger than Palatine (apparently)? All of these questions (and I’m sure more) are what hyped him up, not how much he was in TFA.

If Snoke was just some rich evil guy from the outer rim that saw his chance at building up his own empire by offering his wealth (cut out his force abilities), it would have all worked.

This would have told us where all their funding is coming from, Kylo and Hux would still have seen him as their boss and his death in TLJ wouldn’t of been an issue. Kylo would of had all the funding they needed by that point and his continued presence wouldn’t have added to the story any further. His lack of force abilities wouldn’t have set the audience up to think he was “the final boss” either.

I agree on all these things, yes, except the fact that his presence does not hype him up. There i completely disagree.

Having him as a commanding presence in hologram form - three times, during TFA, sets him up as the main antagonist by far. He is commanding both Kylo Ren and General Hux. He is known in the ways of the force (this already sets him up to be a Sith of some sort). And even worse, we have not yet seen him in his physical form. The audience almost DEMAND to see him in the next film, this time in the flesh. In other words, The Force Awakens sets him up for BIG REVEALS and an even more commanding presence. Also, the parallels to The Emperor is uncanny.

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#1308289
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STAR WARS: Episode 7 &amp; 8 [Trilogy enhancement] - Released
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TheAlaskanSandman said:

Im definitely interested in seeing these

Happy to hear that!

SkyAnakid said:

Will there also be color corrections and music and dialogue changes like The Ancient Lore? because that was amazing.

Definitely.

FreezingTNT2 said:

Here’s a suggestion: don’t have Han be a smuggler in The Force Awakens, because it completely goes against all of his character development in the original trilogy.

Excellent suggestion! I’ll remove any mention of him being a smuggler again. Perhaps try to find a way to make him have another title.

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#1307957
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STAR WARS: Episode 7 &amp; 8 [Trilogy enhancement] - Released
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STAR WARS - SEQUEL TRILOGY ENHANCEMENT

I’ve been a faneditor for about nine years now, and did a very radical The Phantom Menace edit two years ago to mixed results. I never got around to completeing the edit fully, although I did release it. I grew tired of Star Wars, and got pretty fatigue’d by the community as well as Disney. However, this horrible sequel trilogy has made me a little impatient.

I watched TFA twice in cinema. I watched TLJ twice in cinema. I hated TFA. I disliked TLJ. Upon rewatching, I hated them both - and even more so than i thought i did. And i completely dislike the entire trilogy (two-piece) thus far.

However, upon my rewatch a couple of months ago, I got some ideas. And when i get ideas that i think are plausible to execute, my fanedit senses start tingeling.

THE MAJOR ALTERATIONS:

TFA:

  • Film opens with Rey.
  • Removed inproper or bad comedy (Poe’s opening line, some banter on the Star Destroyer etc). Phasma being held hostage. Finn being a horny doofus. And more.
  • Kylo Ren is not revealed to be Han Solo and Leia’s son BEFORE after Leia is introduced. It is revealed during the emotional dialogue between her and Han.
  • No Snoke/New Emperor foreshadowing, except by name - twice. We acknowledge that Kylo Ren and Hux have a boss. That is it.
  • No Death Star Weapon/Planet. Starkiller Base is just a base, with no doom weapon. Our characters travel there to do a surprise attack as well as save the force-sensitive Rey. It follows the film’s original run of events, except anything that includes the weapon.
  • Rey does not win over Kylo Ren in the duel. She manages to surprise him, but no fatal strike - the ground splits, she runs off in fear. Kylo falls to the ground. We do not see him after this.

The main reason to these changes is to remove the ANH ripoff that this film is, and to make it stand more on its own two feet. Removing Snoke is also to make Kylo the main baddie, to not hype up “The new emperor” before his death in TLJ - and therefore not disappointing the audience upon Snoke’s death in TLJ as much as it did. His TLJ death will now not be as devestating to the overall plot (because he was now not foreshadowed to be the main baddie).

TLJ:

  • The film starts with Rey. 12 minute opening.
  • Luke did not try to kill Kylo Ren.
  • Luke does not throw his lightsaber away. He gives it back to Rey in what should now be an emotional scene.
  • Luke has no traitor-y or coward-y traits besides his guilt over Kylo and his former Jedi Temple’s doom.
  • Luke doesn’t make Rey sound like some of the strongest shit ever put to existence. This includes removing all the “I did not fear it then, but i do NOW”.
  • Luke is nicer to Rey and her situation than in the original film. He’s no longer on the brink of being a want-to-be-dead character.
  • Rey trains on the island during the events of the film. Two training montages. A lot of time goes by. The audience can expect her to have been there for at least two or three weeks.
  • Finn’s scenes are more streamlined (removing the six-scene gaps before he actually goes on his sideplot-mission).
  • And of course, Canto Bight and all that crap is streamlined into something a lot more bearable and the events go by in a pace on the brink of lightning.
  • No flying Leia.

… - and a lot of the obvious “done hundred times before” edits that the film need will be done as well.

Luke’s handeling of the saber: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFRGy8rm3iQ

Luke agrees to train Rey, once she gives her a speech about Leia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSiBwwVvNNo

Rey’s first training lesson (Not completely finished): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-TwFCido9g

  • For this sequence; audio is not completely finished (cleaned up), and I want a better Rey to Kylo transition. I might also change the soundtrack.

Kylo’s inner turmoil, and Leia’s heartbreak over her son: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCfk7kqmoEg

Have in mind that none of these clips are fully completed, but very near.

OFFICIAL UPDATES:

  • Luke has his original saber (green) during the Kylo confrontation.
  • All the SW films have a saber duel, so I’ve borrowed Snoke’s Guard’s sequence with lightsabers. However, I might give them different colors (perhaps they all have purple instead of red, or two of them with purple and the rest red).

Credits:

  • Happily borrowed Hosnian Scene destruction idea and execution from NevererGreat’s edit / Hal 9000, with my own alterations to fit my story.
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#1295087
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Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone [Revisited] (Released)
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stickydixon said:

Very nice intro, however, I still feel the order - Opening, flashback, Harry Gets the mail, Harry has dream - Is pretty awful. Is Harry dreaming of getting the mail? The order and pacing are quite jarring, and somewhat counter-intuitive.
I assume you couldn’t fit the mail scene in somewhere else?

I cannot stress how much I love these edits, I also cannot stress how much I wish the order were different. Were you to remove the mail moment and the ten years before text, the first flashback being Harry’s dream, I feel the opening would be perfect.

My two cents.

Hmm. Never thought of it that way. Always thought of it as a new opening, and that the order was self-explanatory. Never heard any complaints about this before either.

I can fool around a little and see if I can find a better flow to it.

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#1294367
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Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone [Revisited] (Released)
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Sorcerer’s Stone will get a V2, but in my eyes more of a complete overhaul. The original version will remain, but for those who prefer an overall smoother transition into the darker aspects of the Harry Potter world - with better alterations to the original film, might find this one much more preferable.

CHANGES WILL INCLUDE:

  • A moving camera. A lot less of the static shots and more movement.

  • Less child-friendly lingering on shots. Removing a lot of extended reaction shots. This has done wonder to the pacing.

  • Color grading with more color than that of my original version, but color graded to fit PoA a lot better.

  • A lot less music from GoF and onwards (only 2 tracks as of now), as to better build the musical theme and identity of Sorcerer’s Stone better. The first hour of the film is nearly all Sorcerer’s Stone/CoS music, with my own alterations here and there.

  • Removed instances of music in certain scenes. Sorcerer’s Stone is very reliant on the music telling the story, and sometimes it can go on for too long. Built new SFX/ambience for these scenes. It’s in a total about 50 seconds of music removal, so it’s not anything major. Just enough to let the audience feel and interpret the story on their own in certain key scenes.

  • Hogwarts is now a character. The film has about six-eight (might even become more) new establishing shots - all worked on for quite some time, and all completely new ones. No more borrowing from the other films. This, in my eyes, is crucial as to not feel like PoA is the first film to actually introduce the school and the atmosphere - and not just the characters.

  • Removed ALL inconsistencies that I could think of. Mr. Flitwick’s charms class is still featured, but his character is only seen briefly - and only his body, not his head (the inconsistency). This works surprisingly well, and one of the reasons for it is because we’ve already had two classes before this third one, all with newly introduced characters. That way, this third one doesn’t feel all that important when I tell the audience that he really isn’t.

  • Removed ALL previous (V1) flashbacks, and only included two (whereas the original had four). These were remade, and are - in my humble opinion - much better.

  • After about the one hour mark the film starts to grow a little bit darker, up until the ending confrontation with Voldemort - which turns GoF-Dark, but it’s still very much a more adult-friendly child-movie with a breath of fresh air up until that point.

  • Dumbed down Hagrid even more than V1. Now he’s only a plot device when it comes to the Nicolas Flamel nameslip.

  • Quidditch is paced better. This sequence also has the most color added to it out of the entire film. This thing should feel magical. In my V1 it looks colorless and somber. I also didn’t include the PoA Quidditch Theme for the first film (like I did in V1), simply because this is the first entry. It should build its own identity, and the later musical scores should grow naturally into the film’s tone and feel. This first Quidditch Match is simply just magical, and the film’s score captures that brilliantly.

  • Removed A LOT of shots that had bad CGI, or lingered on the shot so long that you would eventually notice it yourself.

  • … and a lot more, but I’ve forgotten.

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#1291751
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Harry Potter Revisited: PoA, HBP and DH (Released)
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[UPDATE]

Half-Blood Prince has been a pain in my buttocks. The color grading has been difficult beyond belief, but I am now pretty satisfied with it. It’s taken a long time, but we’re getting there. Also, the editing process in itself has been a little hurdle because of all the different and incoherent emotions the movie is playing with. We jump all over the place with teen drama, to sinister death drama, to Voldemort backstory, and then comedy antics with Slughorn and Ron’s girlfriend; speaking of which, the all-sudden introduction of completely new and irrelevant characters (Ron’s girlfriend and Hermione’s stalker), Malfoy’s sudden introduction as a main character again after being invisible for the last three movies, and more. The movie is just everywhere.

To be honest, the original film - after having now spent a lot of time with it - is the worst out of all of them. So incoherent. And one thing I can never forgive in a film/TV franchise is when they are introducting characters to further the plot and the plot only. This film does exactly that. And I am including Ginny on this list, because we haven’t ever gotten to know her or side with her before this movie.

  • Ron and Hermione’s relationship will be tested. So we introduce two characters we’ve never seen or heard of before, and give them about 20-30 minutes of runtime alongside the main cast to:
      * Give Hermione a reason to become jealous, and grow closer to Harry (just as friends, for some reason)
      * Give Ron a taste of love, but later realize that Hermione is the one he really want
      * Create drama and tension between the three main characters
      * Create comedy in what is a pretty dark movie

We also need Harry to find a love partner, so we - without barely any hints or chemistry:

  • Introduce Ginny as a sort of main character.
  • Make her do weird, sexual stuff like tieing Harry’s shoelaces on all fours before trying to make out with him
  • Make her make choices for Harry, which somewhat means that he suddenly trusts her judgement after spending five years treating her like a child and a sister.

The film fails, miserably. And it cost us about 30-40 minutes of runtime, in the very last chapter before the end. So unforgiveable. I mean, after having spent five films with these guys - and at this one six - starting to introduce unimportant characters to serve a sideplot is the last thing I would want. I want to know more about Voldemort. I want to see Harry, Ron and Hermione starting to grow into their more adult selfs. I want to see them come to gripes with fear and insecurities. I want to see them stand up for one another. I want to see them try to make the world better. To talk with the other students we’ve come to know and love, and hear what they are feeling - and fearing - and loving - and protecting. Not spending forty minutes with sideplots, followed by comedic Liquid Luck sequences and a random dead spider encounter (Aragogg) and then some DARK, dark drama out of the very blue that kills the main freakin’ good guy, Albus Dumbledore himself. I mean, we simply went from a drama film - to a teen drama comedy - to a damn horror movie, in the span of two hours.

Either way, I’m done ranting. At least now you can guess what I’ve (tried) to change!

CHANGELIST, ONLY MAJOR PARTS:

  • Film is color graded to look like a film. Gone is the diarrhea-colored filter. Every single scene has been personally touched upon.

  • The opening bridge attack has been tied together with the reveal of Snape as a bad guy and his scenes with Bellatrix and her sister. This flows better in my opinion as we now start with the bad guys and then move on to Harry, rather than jump in-between; twice.

  • Removed random new character with the purpose of flirting with Harry, in the Train Staton opening. Also did a lot of thematic changes (with the help of the beautiful John Williams OST) to this opening, to make it feel more like a Harry Potter movie. Dumbledore/Hogwart’s soundtrack, Harry’s Theme/Hedwig’s Theme etc.

  • Shortened the scene where Dumbledore and Harry are looking for Slughorn. Removed the stupid, non-sensical “Dragion’s blood” sequence.

  • Removed some silly faces and expressions from Slughorn as he first sees Harry.

  • Removed Dumbledore’s mention of Dragon’s blood, and his “Ah, yes, but first, introductions!” - and get us to the point.

  • Changed the atmosphere of Diagon Alley, soundtrack and color grading. Also some happy SFX.

  • Removed Harry’s broken nose and Luna fixing it. It’s a cute scene, but it completely stops the movie at (another) hault.

  • The Great Hall sequence, that in the original is presented with a green/brown diarrhea palette and washed out lights, now actually looks like a Great Hall sequence. This required layer upon layer with different sorts of color grading, including a bunch of masking. I should’ve been paid doing this, hahaha.

  • Re-shuffled a lot of scenes. Make it feel more Harry Potter’y. We start with some Quidditch, then move onto potions class, from there to Malfoy’s mission and thereafter Dumbledore’s office, and then Malfoy again. Things flow better this way, as we start out cute and innocent and then slowly move a little bit into the darker aspects of the film.

  • and a bunch more, but I won’t bother to write nor reveal anything else. I think your viewing experience will be better off of it!

VIDEO PREVIEW #1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1ob7G8Xg_g

Color grading. A little tease of the re-edited opening (although without the middle and end of it).

VIDEO PREVIEW #2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak4G_KkRKnA

New Great Hall color grading. Includes before/after near the end.

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#1285601
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Game of Thrones - Film III - A Feast for Crows (Released)
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Season 8, being as underwhelming as it has been, has made it necessary to change up certain end game aspects. Which is why I’m making a quick blueprint on the last season to work my way up to with the remaining films.

This is the rough cut of my version of Daenerys’s turn to madness:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Glzr5zTcILk&feature=youtu.be