Whoa! the second is really close to the final piece.
I wouldnt like seeing the executor from the top all the time. but id like to see him all at once. It feels cheap having its engines off frame. ( an other Marvel rule)
-Angel
TheTome said:
the real question is what are you using right now?
The real question is: Any more clips from your edit? please? :D
If you are to color correction let me help with it :)
-Angel
Besides that, that scene needs more star destroyers as we see them in previous shots. I wouldnt mind seeing more SDs coming from the outerspace.
We need Overlaps only with overlaps we can show depth and scale. Otherwise a flat image doesnt work.
-Angel
Did you manage to get rid all the TF1's footage? as the scene with Optimus briefing we have there two recycled footage.
When they go and visit Simmons the establishing shot has the flag that the decepticon broke in the previous scene. Is it fixed?
When Optimus is reborn we see rises twice in a flipped footage some moments later.
Any thoughts about recroping the scenes of simmons being on the pyramid so its not visible the background with the lack of devy?
When the soldiers are on the plane during the galoway conv(before he jump) the body of optimus appearing and disappearing. any ideas?
There are stock footage showing jet planes firing flares, without a reason. Any thoughts taking footage from other movie?
Imax forest will be in?
Prime can kill a prime? or maybe not? ideas?
The scene that Grindor holds the car, we see inconsistency in the background during the flight.
Adding more G1 transformers sounds?
Cant wait :D
-Angel
Like a mothership?
Aka Independence day?
hmm
-Angel
Where is my temple matte ? :(
Nice work with yoda :D
-Angel
In regards to Vaderios' mock-up on the right, taking into account ImpFighter's preference for seeing the tower (which I can see too, so the Executor doesn't look like a flying arrow) the other thing that can be done is slim down the brighter underbelly area of the Executor to match the angle and perspective of the surrounding SDs.
I said before that we can use an other angle slight lower so the bridge could be visible. Nothing too hard.pi
There's also the "who cares?" factor. ;) Some things can get a bit overboard, and there are plenty of things Adywan isn't bothering to change that others might.
Many things that ady fixed are unnoticeable for the most of ppl. Who cares about the millennium falcon cannons? but i might care about money shots in ESB (it was an example, not bad word for ady's fixes) :)
I'd like to see Vaderios make an edit, but he doesn't seem interested in such a thing.
Trust me. My POVs are not storywise but visualwise... that sucks for most of you here. :P
I love that Angel can do 3D now.
Credit to original modeler(s)
-Angel
Darth Editous said:
Can you have artistic license in an edit that fixes most of the errors? :D
I'm not sure what you're asking, or whether you think artistic licence is good or bad...
But as an example of artistic licence, there's a bit in The World Is Not Enough where Bond fires at the bad guy, who's standing behind bullet proof glass. There's a huge (relatively speaking) delay between the firing of the shot and impact of the bullet, during which there is a cut so we see the bullet hit, but I find the sequence very effective, and wouldn't remove that delay no matter how glaring an "error" it is.
DE
Artistic license is always good. But depends the POV.
If you want to fix most of the things then the artistic license is gone but keeping the dramatic license as well.
-Angel
ImperialFighter said:
Have to say that I prefer to see the Executor's 'tower' detail etc. in that initial 'long-shot' though vaderios.
Well i dont have problem with that.
I just showed what could be look if the perspective was correct.
We can always use a slight lower angle of executor so the bridge is visible and perspectively correct. No need for uber detail or movement. Executor can be a 2d element as well.
-Angel
Can you have artistic license in an edit that fixes most of the errors? :D
Nice Sig there ESF :D
-Angel
i did a quick mockup/render in max.
The SDs are lined up with the executor. so any perspective will there.
IMO it gets more menacing to be like an arrow instead of having the upper surface visible. But i may be wrong so be my guest to correct me :)
-Angel
Mostly of the upper surface shouldn't be visible from that angle.
-Angel
Edit: updated
sort of...
The far star destroyer should be in front of the underbelly SD. I think.
Is the perspective screwed? YES
-Angel
Hah. I like this pic particular
Because if you notice how cheap are the elements the Tantive is actually shrinking when it comes to camera.
Super elements work.
The scaling in ROTJ is fucked up for sure.
-Angel
Thats why Michael and JJ rocks :D
-Angel
Wampa will be replaced?
By what? A Christmas Yeti? OMG!!!!
-Angel
And for those who interested,
Here is the size changes.
-Angel
Here Impfighter. Straight from the AVCHD.
-Angel
JasonN said:
EP1 had a magenta (red/pink) hue throughout its film as well, which I've been working at removing for the next release of my Attack of the Federation fanedit:
I forgot to ask. Will you fix some contrasts? The highlights appears to be faded as well with the shadows. Subtle things, like ady did.?
-Angel
huhu!
NO more Yellow Highlights :D
-Angel
Enigmas said:
However, I am bothered by the flight path of the shuttle during Needa's visit to the Executor. It seems a bit arching and ponderous to me (for all 7 seconds it's on screen). Is that flight path final?
Asking if the shuttle should go under executor instead of going over it?
Good question. assuming and only that executor have multiple hangars ON the surface NOT only in his belly.
-Angel
adywan said:
I did think about that but the styles are quite different so wouldn't fit in. Almost all of the snowstorm scenes in ESB are real filmed scenes whereas in ST they are very heavily CG
They work tho!
You say that they look so different or for the sake of physical is best? Snow Farticles FTW
There are from the rare scenes that doenst have lens flares (damn)
-Angel
adywan said:
Ah, i can see where the scaling is going out there Angel. The stardestroyer model you are using for the comparison is has been modelled on the stardestroyer with the oversized bridge section. Heres the different towers that were used for the models in the OT. The Executor is the only one that has the bridge section at the correct scale when compared to the tower.
Thats depressing. So the executor has the right dimensions? so its bridge is the same as the SD's ones? MEH!
So ady can you illustrate please -roughly- how the MF should be in the back of the SD?
But again the MG should have different angle when it flybys from Needa's bridge. Otherwise with that angle it could hit :)
-Angel
No idea who is right, right now :P
I can assure you that the shuttle is small tho like ady did.
-Angel
Well correct me if im wrong.
The model used on back is the exact same with the human scaling.
Sorry long image lol
-Angel