Alexrd

But she was at home, talking to her family. She doesn't need to be formal with her own family.

Bingowings said:

Alexrd said:

Bingowings said:

Let's face it, the farm, Owen and Beru were only in the AOTC to justify flashing the familiar at the fanbase.

They say hardly do or say anything and we get none of the dots connected to the OT.

I partially disagree. They show the connection between Anakin and the Lars, and why Luke ended up with them.

When partially quoting it helps to look at the words you are missing out like the sentence below where you cropped my post.

You are right, I didn't read the rest of your post. Sorry about that. But then again, we do get the dots connected to the OT, afterall. If they hadn't shown Owen and Beru, the audience wouldn't understand how are the Lars and Anakin related.

Bingowings said:

Let's face it, the farm, Owen and Beru were only in the AOTC to justify flashing the familiar at the fanbase.

They say hardly do or say anything and we get none of the dots connected to the OT.

I partially disagree. They show the connection between Anakin and the Lars, and why Luke ended up with them.

Wasn't the Insider #125 going to have the Blu-ray preview?

Bobby Jay said:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Fuck-the-official-site/post/336852/#TopicPost336852

Just a bunch of dead links now and I'm almost ashamed to admit I no longer have these. :-(

Did anyone download them at the time and still have them?

I've sent a PM to Deathsaurer, to see if he can re-upload them.

I have to give the trailer a small amount of credibility because it somehow has the "treated" TPM footage.

zombie84 said:

Trailers don't always represent the final colour grading. If they were fixing the colour issues, it's possible, maybe even likely, that the trailer from a year before its release would not feature this. So, personally, I'm not using that trailer as proof of anything, they probably just used whatever footage was onhand.

I agree. However, that's the only piece of Blu-ray related material that we have. If there is any indication of something, is that nothing has been changed from 2004 based on the trailer. Then again, it's only an indication. Not proof.

Gaffer Tape said:

And also... again, they're prequels.  Despite what George says, they're designed and structured to be watched after the original movies, so there is no surprise to preserve.

This.

ChainsawAsh said:

This doesn't mean that this is what will happen, though - maybe they're working on a new master right now.  But based on LFL's history, I doubt it.

Acutally, I thought based on LFL's history, they would work on a new master. However, since all we have is the trailer, it seems we will have the 2004 versions.

Sluggo said:

It's too bad there isn't some group of fans who work to preserve starwars media before it disappears.

Indeed. I often use the Internet Archive when I search for old Star Wars media and interviews. But even that is limited.

adywan said:

Someone posted a few screen captured videos that contained the commentaries for eps 1 & 2 plus the "script to screen" commentaries for eps 1 & 5, but i can't find where that was now. i did have these but they may have been deleted long ago

If you eventually find them, could you make them available?

Thanks in advance.

"There was no father."

See? Mystical. ;-)

Anchorhead said:

Alexrd said:

There has to be something measurable to support those statements.

Why?

Because according to those statements, it's something that is inherited. Otherwise it wouldn't "run strong in his family".

ChainsawAsh said:

but it was never stated outright that only those whose ancestors were Force-users could become Force-users themselves.

That was never stated in the PT either. The Jedi pick children from some families because the children are Force-sensitive, not their parents (otherwise the parents themselves would have been picked as children). It still seems random, and therefore, mystical.

Just my opinion.

zombie84 said:

Your power is only as great as your connection. Thus, your ability to use the Force, your strength in the Force, is entirely dependant on the amount of midichlorians. There is effectively no difference between midichlorians and the Force itself, the point is you can use the Force because of the measureable amount of midichlorian cells. Yoda says "strong am I in the Force," but in TPM Kenobi remarks that "even Yoda doesn't have a midichlorian count [as] high [as Anakin]", which is significant in that his power is framed in terms of a measureable scientific report.

"The Force is strong in my family."

"My father has it, I have, and my sister has it too."

There has to be something measurable to support those statements.

More midichlorians, more potential the individual has, yes. But I still don't see how does it make the Force less mystical, when we are only talking about the link between a being and the Force, not the Force itself.

Baronlando said:

Wait, so is Han just a moron now that he doesn't believe in something that can be physically measured?

He said he doesn't believe in midichlorians?!

Anchorhead said:

SilverWook said:

It might also be a "one way call" scenario. Leia senses Luke, but can't send a message as Vader does.

The one-way call was what I felt it was when I first saw the film.

 

Regarding the discussion at hand;  The moment Lucas explained The Force, it lost it's mystique.

The Force is explained in ANH (and TESB to some extent). In TPM, it's explained how someone is connected to the Force.

Harmy said:

Well, yeah, but in the original trilogy the Force was mystical. The fact that only some people can use it doesn't mean it's something physical, it can be in the soul or whatever you want to call it. It's just like in other fantasy stories only some people are born to be wizards and you don't need a rational explanation of that. How lame would a similar concept be in say Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter? "You see, Harry," Dumbledore said, "some people are muggles because they don't have enough midichlorians in their bloodstream...". The midichlorian explanation dumbs the whole concept down and totally destroys its mystical nature.

From what I understand, midichlorians are the "connection" between a being and the Force. They are not the Force itself. More midichlorians mean more affinity to the Force. The fact that some are more attuned than others comes from the OT itself. The Force is still mystical.

Harmy said:

I always thought that some people being able to use the force and some not and that it is something that runs in the family was quite clearly implied in the OT ("The boy is our last hope." "No, there is another." - "Force is strong in my family").

Exactly. There's nothing undermining about it.

Monolithium said:

and that's it because only a select few have it.

Really?

Isn't there a way to report/delete comments like those? I'm sure there is.

xhonzi said:

Alexrd said:

walkingdork said:

Sure the mainstream loves the PT and the new Indiana Jones movie, but that's because the mainstream thinks whatever they told to think.

Really? Any source for that?

 Most of your posts about the PT/Clone Wars?

What? Show some of them to prove your point, then. Otherwise, it's just a false claim on your part.

Billy Dee's Colt 45 ad. I like this thread.

adywan said:

It was meant in jest, but you only originally mentioned it as a defence from people attacking prequel apologists, so it did seem that this was your purpose or else why even mention it?.

No. I mentioned because you were "attacked" by fanatics due to your edit/vision/opinion/whatever, and that made me remember the article's reported attack.

Extremes exist everywhere, be it PT or OT fans.

adywan said:

So Alexrd, you will need to find some other evidence that OT fans are as mental as the PT/Lucas apologist/gushers ;)

That was never the purpose of my post.

Bobby Jay said:

Edit: Sorry, just read the comment section of the article and the author himself admits it was a joke. Now I need to know if you guys knew it was a joke and where playing along or if you just over reacted?

Thanks for the info. Never read the comments section.

It was on some review site. I'll search for it.

EDIT: Here it is.

This makes me remember some guy that got a cut in the neck after saying he liked digital Yoda.