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To be fair to Disney, maybe this is what the market wants. You’ve got all these aging baby-boomer Trump voters who want it to be the 1980s again. Maybe there really are just hordes of people who are nearing the end of life, and want to be spoon fed all the things they loved from days of yore.
It’s terrible filmmaking though.
Walt Disney Pictures made Beauty and the Beast. Lucasfilm made TFA and RO. Walt Disney Studios distributed both. Maybe some day people will learn the difference (spoiler: they won’t).
Actually, if you had watched TFA and R1, which I’m sure you did, you could tell they were made by about 50 different executives, all with their own sometimes disparate ideas, crammed into 2 hours.
Which is how dysfunctional rehash movies get made.
TFA? Fine but Rogue One? Nah. It just a movie that takes place around the time of the OT. How does that make it a rehash?
Another movie with the Death Star, even though they’ve been blown up 2-3 times, depending on how you count them? Another movie with Darth Vader? That’s five movies now since he died, and he’s managed to appear in all of them. Another movie with Grand Moff Tarkin? Now there’s going to be another movie with Han Solo?
The whole series is just rehash now.
Walt Disney Pictures made Beauty and the Beast. Lucasfilm made TFA and RO. Walt Disney Studios distributed both. Maybe some day people will learn the difference (spoiler: they won’t).
Actually, if you had watched TFA and R1, which I’m sure you did, you could tell they were made by about 50 different executives, all with their own sometimes disparate ideas, crammed into 2 hours.
Which is how dysfunctional rehash movies get made.
And I was referring to the fact that they are in a rehash mode right now, and that it’s studio-wide.
I heard the live action remake of The Jungle Book was more ambitious though, so I’m actually eager to check that out and see if it’s true.
Of course not, they merely have the power to declassify any documents they wish.
How can they declassify something they don’t know exists?
At the risk of losing all credibility here
Yes, you lost all credibility.
You underestimate how determined some are to hate anything connected to Disney.
This isn’t true. Disney has some great classic films, just like the OT are classics. But they have gone through successful periods like the 1930s-1950s, when Walt was in his prime, and the Disney Renaissance in the 1990s, and then they have gone through decades where they are ran by less visionary leaders and employ less talented people, and they churn out little more than garbage.
Having seen the Beauty and the Beast remake this weekend, it’s obvious that the problems with the new Star Wars films are not just Star Wars problems–they are Disney problems. In the original movie, the lead actress was voiced by a superb stage singer who may have not appeared in any other film in her life. In the new movie, they cast a big name who simply can’t sing. In fact, most of the characters are not good singers and have no business being in a live action musical. But they are names, and that’s a studio decision.
In the new Disney films, both R1 and TFA, it’s clear the studio’s goal is to simply churn out fanservice nostalgia that lacks creative ambition. They either constrained their filmmakers and forced them to churn out action figure movies, or they hired people who were not that talented or ambitious in the first place, knowing what they would produce.
Either way, these films are not as bad as the prequels, but they are like Return of the Jedi on steroids, minus the good parts.
and you know this how?
Because the President is not omnipotent nor a dictator. What agency are we talking about here, the FBI? The Director of the FBI is in charge, and everyone in the FBI reports to him. What about the Justice Department? The Attorney General is in charge, and everyone in the Justice Department reports to him/her.
There have been many instances in history, even recent history, where these Presidential appointees were fired for insubordination.
TPM was at least shot on film, and didn’t have Yoda flying around like a monkey. That seals it for me.
Plus, the factory sequence. Which I would never remember, if not for RLM, since I only saw the POS once.
Nobody is talking about haircuts when they use the word “dated” to describe something.
Nobody?
Ok.
In 50 years, do you think a Star Wars audience is going to be able to tell a 1970s haircut apart from a 1990s one? I don’t think so. I think these things are inconsequential unless they detract from the film, which of course it doesn’t. Luke’s hair doesn’t call attention to itself; it’s just there.
Style, whether it be costume design, or lighting, etc. has no impact on whether a film gets dated or looks timeless or not. Myopic creative vision does. When elements like the plot or the effects of the film render it only pertinent in its contemporary era, then a film will become dated when that era passes and subsequent generations find no use for watching it.
Ryan, you need to have thicker skin. If people go over the line and harass you, then that’s different of course. But you should be able to absorb criticism of things you like and defend them without getting so agitated.
I am pretty sure if he orders them to, they have to.
Nope. That’s not how it works.
And something like that is pretty inconsequential when it comes to the overall quality of a film.
So what about the rehash part, where they cheaply imitate the original and spit it back out at you?
The CIA, FBI, and military are not going to share everything with Trump. They don’t trust him, and there’s no chance they shared everything with Obama or Bush or anyone else either.
So you don’t like gratuitous appearances by out-of-place characters from other movies?
Because that was a thing in the PT too.
Now now, don’t be embarrassed by your love of people pandering to you.
I actually have to agree with impscum here. The argument that you shouldn’t express your PT love here because of the website tile is pretty weak.
Didn’t read every post but I doubt anyone ever said that it’s verboten to say you like the PT. What was said or implied was that this forum is called Original Trilogy .com, and the common thread we have here is enjoyment of the OT. It just so happens that most of us hate the PT with a passion, so don’t be surprised if your professed love for the PT is met with mockery.
Then there are those of us OT-only fans who admire quality filmmaking and good storytelling, and don’t care for the new movies at all, while others here get considerable enjoyment out of being pandered to. We have no problem mocking each other either.
Nobody is talking about haircuts when they use the word “dated” to describe something.
It’s like you’re not familiar with the used universe concept.
Disagree. Good art is timeless.
Manos: The Hands of Fate (1966)
Someone uploaded it in 4k on Youtube.
It is the entire cut of the film, including the scenes not shown on MST3K. Honestly, hard to rate this film with all of the MST3K jokes making it more passable to watch. It’s a very bad movie, mostly marred by technical deficiency, but I’ve unfortunately seen much worse.
When did I say there would be nothing new on home media? I said it’s quite obvious they are not going to release the OOT. That has nothing to do with future special edition releases, however.
Self-indulgent filmmaking is the worst kind.
The problem was the (lack of) talent behind the people doing the graphics. Or maybe they ran out of time or money. But regardless, even in '97 Jabba looked terrible and fake.
I hated that movie. It was hard to find much redeeming in it, but mocking Nazis is always a safe bet.