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Adamwankenobi

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#157552
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If the O-OT ever came out, the future of SW is with the PT fans.
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I find it interesting that Ebert and Roper, in addition to giving ROTS two thumbs up, called it the best SW film since ESB. And given the fact that these two expert movie critics have seen and reviewed all of the films as they were released, this really shows omething. And Ebert is the guy who hated AOTC and is strict in what he gives a thumbs up to. See their audio review below:

http://tvplex.go.com/buenavista/ebertandroeper/050523.html
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#157539
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redeeming lucas
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Originally posted by: booah
Originally posted by: CO
His last words to us would be, "Fans, take my helmet off so I can give you the original DVD's." Then he would be truly redeemed.


HA!


Would we burn his body later, with fireworks and Ewoks dancing?


No, we would have to have Wookiees dancing, since it was his original vision.
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#157475
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TV Shows on DVD
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Another show I am greatly looking forward to on DVD is The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. From what Rick McCallum said, the DVD's will be excellent presentations of that TV series, with PLENTY of docmentaries/bonus features to go along with it. I do hope, however, that Lucas and co. don't try to re-edit the episodes like they did for the VHS release back in 99'. They tried to cut out 93 year old Indy from every episode!

But with 22 DVD's, this better be a damn fine collection for the price it'll be.
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#157413
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Who's gonna read "Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader?"
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That's an excellent explanation of your point. And I too can respect that. The problem is, I see it from the exact opposite. The very first things I saw in star wars, the very first things which made me interested, were the story of the jedi and the story of Anakin. I saw episode I, and wanted to episodes 4-6. I was not diapponted, because to me, it provided a fitting conclusion to what I had first saw in TPM. I could already see the connections between people, what was going to happen, etc. Then, when AOTC and ROTS came along, they filled in the gaps between the story I already knew, and even greater enhanced how I felt about them. The PT even enhanced the OT. The problem I've always had with the OT and OT fans is that Vader was never the villain in the first place, as seen in ROTJ. ROTJ was evidence enough, before the PT came along, that he was a very human character, and that he was not the true evil, Emperor Palpatine was. As Lucas put it, you got a hint through his words and actions that he was: "The victim, not the villain." So you may have saw him as the epitome of all evil at first, but ROTJ showed the truth. I find it strange that Vader is on the top 10 villains, yet Palpatine is nowhere close. Is it becuase of the black armor and meacing voice? Hmm...

But, as Lucas says (and you can dispute this all you want, but this is what he claims, so we must take his word) the original story was never meant to portray him as the true villain, but, Vader became such an icon, that it took the PT to allow people to see him the way Lucas intended. I mean, my mom grew up in the 70's and 80's, watched all three films of the OT in theaters, enjoyed them, but now years later tells me ROTS is the one where the most interesting story lies. And this was from the point of view of someone who is not a fan, but who greatly enjoys all of the films. She did not watch them repeatedly as many have, but merely enjoyed them a few memorable times since they came out. This proves that different people see the saga in a different way. She's from your generation, saw the OT growing up, yet still equally enjoyed the PT. She was not a critic. She didn't go in expecting anything, she just went in and enjoyed it. The only reason critics and everyone for that matter gave TPM and AOTC bad reviews is becuase they went in expecting it to be the way THEY wanted it to all these years, rather than the way HE wanted them to be. They had grown up, expecting the films to grow up with them. And when the films stayed as they were, it had a jarring effect on some people. I remember those guys on MTV on the "Best Week Ever" show back in May. When that week's show came around that talked about ROTS's release, they said, "Oh, finally, a Star Wars prequel movie that actually doesn't suck!"
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#157393
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Who's gonna read "Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader?"
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Why on earth do you hate the PT that bad? They're just movies. None of this happened. It is all an excellent, excellent story. So Anakin turned to Vader because of his love for someone? That shows the human side of him, which is supposed to be the whole point of the story. The OT is absolutely no better than the PT. Nothing makes it superior. No offense YIYF, but what you're saying seems to me as silly as if I said "The OT and all that crap didn't happen. Not interested." It's part of the story, so I enjoy it.
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#157391
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redeeming lucas
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
That's a purely subjective idea. Lucas is Lucas, always was, and he hasn't changed character. The SE and PT were what he wanted them to be. The OOT, was not.
Bullshit. I accept that there were budgetary and technological limitations back in 77 when he was making Star Wars and perhaps the movie was not quite the grand space opera he envisioned in his head. However, story changes and all the rest of it are the actions of an aging, obsessed Billionaire. What can redeem him? Realise and acknowledge his mistakes and rerelease the original trilogy as it was. If he really wants he can then release a new special edition, with vastly improved effects but NO character or story changes, which I would actually quite like to see.


Except, once again, "mistakes" are in the eye of the beholder. Any changes he made, he desperately wanted made, and couldn't care less about what others thought of it. The reason he doesn't release the original versions is that he doesn't really care about film history and preservation, in regard to his own films. He wants future generations to remember them the way he wants them, not the way they were. It is obvious to me that he wants to erase the OOT for good. So, with his mentality, there never will be a DVD release of the OOT since, like I said before, to him, they are merely "early drafts."

And, he's already said, if fans want the OOT, they can get it on Laserdisc or VHS.
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#157356
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Help: looking for... The Missing 'Raiders of The Lost Ark' Scene...
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Originally posted by: SammyTheBull

there are exactly three cases where the sequel was better (Godfather II, Bride of Frankenstein, Star Trek II)


Well, IMHO, you can't forget Terminator 2: Judgement Day, and, obviously, The Empire Strikes Back. With the Terminator films, Cameron did the first two, and intended to leave the ending open to interpretation and end the series there. But, someone still wanted a third film, so someone made that piece of crap called Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines. Now I hear there's even talk of a fourth!