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TheDimitrios said:

It’s honestly not so much about what can be fixed and more that it feels disconnected as part of the Mando/Mandalore Story.

That disconnect would not feel like one if it was It’s own little thing.

Understood, and that’s something I am aiming to solve by placing it in Book 6. It will feel disconnected no matter what unless it leads directly to Gideon’s return in a sensible manner.

Patali said:
To me this sounds perfect. If the content can sustain it, a 2 hour and 45 minute epic film would be an awesome finisher. In truth, across Mando and Boba we have 3.5 to 4 seasons of content. Cutting that into 6 movies sounds great. Cutting into 7 or 8, I am starting to wonder why Im watching it instead of just the show.

I would watch it anyway because of your great structuring, I just think it has the potential to be so much stronger pared down into a big event film. 6 is perfect to me.

I think so too, that’s the plan! I’d love to get Book 5 updated out ASAP, but I am still working through some conversations in Book 6 that are altering some dialogue/scenes in Book 5 so I have to work ahead before I can finalize the events leading up to it.

Edit: Also I do have a question, bagel. I haven’t watched Ahsoka yet. But I am wondering your opinion. I commented before on stretching out that time of reuniting Grogu and Din as much as possible. How do you think it would work/feel to watch Ahsoka (lets say a movie cut of Ahsoka), after either your movie 4 of this series, then jumping back into your final 2 movies after that (or after movie 5)? I am just wondering if that might help the separation even better, add another movie of content (with a character reintroduced in your movie 4) to add even more spacing between Din and Grogu’s reunion.

That’s a good question, here’s how I understand the timeline to work… The showrunners vaguely wanted the timeline to occur over the course of the “real life” production timeline, ie Season 2 occurs ~1 year after Season 1. As I’ve merged a couple of shows together since their events overlap, certain scenes in TWoM are not directly chronological and some are. For example, Book 1 is a very chronological story that all takes place within the span of a few weeks. However, in Book 2, while Boba Fett seems to be escaping the Sarlacc and training with the Tuskens concurrently with Din’s travels to Sorgan with Grogu, that’s not the case chronologically. As “The Mandalorian” show itself takes place much later than when Boba escapes the Sarlacc in 4 ABY, some of Boba’s past events are simply shown next to Din’s scenes to symbolize the journey that he and Din went on individually before crossing paths chronologically. This type of thematic storytelling occurs again with Grogu’s training with Luke, so while we will see them training in Book 6, these are simply non-chronologically placed scenes that showcase a few instances of lessons Grogu had with Luke during the ~1.5 years he was on Ossus. So let’s glance at the overall structure and get Ahsoka into the mix, assuming we start TWoM on Year 1 Day 1:

• Book 1 - Year 1-1.1 (Din’s hunt for and subsequent rescue of Grogu occurs over the span of a few weeks)

• Book 2 - Year 1.1-1.25 (While Din and Grogu’s travels take place over the course of a few weeks/months, Boba’s early Tusken scenes take place years before meeting Din & Fennec on Tatooine which happens in the “present”)

• Book 3 - Year 2.1-2.25 (Din’s journey to find Grogu a Jedi takes 8-10 months of wandering the galaxy together, and we pick up on the tale end of that to see snippets of their adventure in this film)

• Book 4 - Year 2.25-2.5 (Din meets Ahsoka, and the mission with Grogu concludes chronologically over a few weeks/months)

• Ahsoka “Movie 1” - Year 3.5-3.75 (The Ahsoka show is supposed to run concurrently with general events in Mando S3)

• Book 5 - Year 3.25-3.75 (Din has been traveling solo for a long time when we see him on this random bounty contract through Mines/Nevarro, Grogu is with Luke but we don’t see it yet)

• Ahsoka “Movie 2” - Year 3.75-4.5 (The finale of Ahsoka is technically supposed to occur after the finale of Mando S3, but overall events of the shows overlap)

• Book 6 - Year 4-4.25 (Din and Bo-Katan reunite the clans, we see non-chronological snippets of Grogu’s training that occurred over the past 1.5 years, Mandalore is reclaimed)

So while you won’t get a perfectly “chronological” experience no matter what you do as the shows weren’t filmed in such a way (I also haven’t done a deep dive into the Ahsoka series yet to fully analyze the events/timeline) this is roughly when the events would occur. The Mandalorian story is intended to occur over ~3 years, and the Ahsoka story runs concurrently with the last year of that story and concludes after the end of TWoM. So perhaps, yes, watching parts of the Ahsoka show between Books 4-6/Mando Season 3 could help us mentally make the timeline gap “feel” longer, since I do not think the shows themselves did a good job of communicating the passage of time to the audience.

EddieDean said:

Ahsoka, while it’s clearly part of that world and time period, absolutely stands alone for now. It’s set after Ahsoka’s appearance in Mando and the Dark Council meeting where they reference Thrawn, and there are light references to the New Republic and Mon Mothma, but it’s got no natural overlap with any of the focal storylines of Mando.

Right, it certainly doesn’t belong in “The Way of Mandalore” saga in any official capacity, but it works well enough with what I described above to add to a watchthrough of this era of Star Wars. I hope to have an Ahsoka edit out one day, but it isn’t a priority and will probably come after Season 2/the next New Republic-Mando movie.

5.5/10 trailer for me. Feeling pretty neutral about the show in general, but remain a little bit intrigued. It didn’t match the tone of the poster though…? I don’t know, I’ve watched the trailer 5 full times and something felt a little off or shallow with the trailer itself, but it certainly wasn’t bad. For some reason, the lighting/presentation of the sets still doesn’t fit with the “feel” of a George Lucas set/lighting/background/costumes. I know they can’t really perfectly replicate it with the differing technology nowadays, but there has to be a way to resemble the grand scale of a Lucas set piece. Do the shots still feel… flat or like they’re missing something? Even with this, I am interested to learn more about the show and will follow with cautious optimism.

EddieDean said:
I suppose our difference of sentiment/approach here is in our reactions to the fact that, as you point out, there’s little Mando-Grogu meat in Season 3. You say ‘…and therefore I’m doing all I can to fix it’, which is absolutely a valid approach, and if you can pull it off (which is likely!) the whole will end up all the stronger for it. Whereas I’m more saying ‘…and therefore I’ll accept the lesser focus and take a solid Season 3 movie version which simply doesn’t have a lot of Mando-Grogu’. For me, both Mando and Grogu took more of a backseat in the season compared to Bo Katan and the Mandalorians, and I’m OK with that. But, arguably, it is Mando’s show, and he and Grogu should be more prominent.

This makes a lot of sense! It does just come down to a “director’s decision” of whether I want to keep the focus of the movies on Din/Grogu or morph it into a bigger-picture story about various Mandalorians as the D+ show itself did. While I do like seeing the growth of Mandalorians in general, I don’t think it was executed well and seemed like a production adjustment rather than the actual plan. For my edit saga, I would prefer to sacrifice a few Pershing/Boba recruitment scenes in favor of keeping the narrative focused on where it started, and the incredible adventure between a Mandalorian and a force-sensitive baby in an era where the galaxy looks down upon both of them. I want to give Boba his due and complete his arc in a satisfying way, I want to let Bo-Katan get her spotlight (and I am really enhancing this!), and I want to let our main characters stay as our main characters. It’s simply too jarring for me to rip out my two primary protagonists in my final film. I just don’t think that’s quality storytelling, which has been my goal since Day 1.

I’m still very, very eager to see you succeed here. I think you’ve got what it takes (strategically and technically) to pull off your ambitious fixing.

I can already tell the hardest part is going to be figuring out what to cut… Realistically, I have ~3.5 hours of usable footage to sift through, and I need to cut out 30-45 minutes to make a good movie. It’s making me sweat!

TheDimitrios said:

I kinda came around on the idea of a Pershing Minisode. If it comes without the Way of Mandalore branding.

I’m okay with this idea in general, but I just don’t know what exactly I can improve upon to make this a worthwhile effort. I’ve edited various scenes in some ways, but outside of integrating it into my main TWoM movies, there is just not a ton that I can do creatively here. What would you say needs fixed in the original release in order to make it into an interesting disconnected short story?

EddieDean said:

I’m still a big advocate for using as much content as possible though (suggesting three movies), and there are three remaining ‘strong endings’:

• BOBF’s big final fight
• Gorian Shard battle
• Mandalore finale

I agree here, but the problem I’m facing isn’t with the endings, it’s with the lack of beginnings. I have 3 good endings, but only content to sustain a beginning and middle for 2 films. This is why I was considering moving the BoBF fight into an Act 2 conclusion of a 4-act film in Book 6.

So here’s (yet) another suggestion:

• Movie 5: As you propose. Mando and Grogu apart. Lovely arc focused on Mando’s loneliness post-Grogu, apostasy, redemption, and establishment of Nevarro as a staging ground. End on the tag of Boba taking the throne.
• Movie 6: Your excellent current BoBF movie 5 as the core. Grogu’s training with Luke and eventual rejoining Mando. Mando’s scenes on Plazir early on, and the general mobilising and prep for the Mandalorians in the background. (Presumably you already have decent voice lines to explain why the Mandos are still using Rock World while also staging out of Nevarro.) End the movie on Boba committing his help to the Mandalorians, and ideally something about the Mandalorians being ready to retake their planet. Reveal Gideon’s escaped his prison ship.
• Movie 7: Main focus on Pershing (initially) intercut with Boba being delayed by the Hutts. Into the finale two parter and your inclusion of Boba in it too, for that Avengers moment.

That way, you get the big bombastic finales, and more time to breathe and use more of the good content. It also gives you more time with Grogu away from Mando, more time for the Mandalorians to establish on Nevarro before retaking Mandalore, and more time for Boba to both take the throne and get established as Daimyo. And each movie brings the Mandalorians closer to retaking Mandalore.

I would love to do this, but that proposed Book 7 doesn’t have the Mando-Grogu content to sustain it. I structured every single remaining unused scene, and I wrote in a previous post “If I combine all of Dr. Pershing, all of my unused BoBF scenes focusing on Boba, and the whole assault on Mandalore, I can indeed make a functioning 2-hour movie. But Din and Grogu are only the focus of like 10-20% of it, and most of that is them fighting. They barely get any dialogue or development and it feels terrible and jarring to watch.” They aren’t the main characters of that proposed film and as I watched the scenes play out, it was extremely anti-climatic, especially coming off watching their reunion at the end of Book 6, you’re expecting this incredible story with them as the focus again and it’s the complete opposite. I don’t have the content even to move storylines around like I did in Seasons 1-2 because even though Din and Grogu are reunited in the Disney show, Grogu goes away for all of the Plazir-15 episode, Grogu goes away for all of Raptor kid rescue episode, Grogu/Din are pretty much not in the Pershing episode, and for some reason Din and Grogu are not the narrative focus of the assault on Mandalore and are mostly side characters in a larger storyline. So even without me VFX’ing Grogu out of the mines, I already have about 40% less footage of them together to work with in Season 3 compared to earlier seasons. I have some touching moments in the N-1 that I haven’t used but those are going in during their trip to retake Mandalore and are only ~2 minutes, but there really aren’t many other options for additional scene movements, the base content just doesn’t exist in Season 3.

If you think I’m missing something there with your Book 7 idea, I’m very open to solutions to it. So while I can make a 2-hour movie with your plan, Grogu and Din are only the focus of ~20 minutes of it, and that makes me uncomfortable for the saga concluding film. It would never make it to a theater like that, so I am not too fond of doing it here just for the sake of maxing content/runtime.

lantern51 said:

Anyone know when this might be finished?

From PixelJoker as of March 9: "I’m not giving regular updates because I’m at the point where I’d like to wrap things up and prepare for the next stage. So, all I’m doing now is dialogue removal (a.k.a., making the actors not talk to match the cuts better), creating alternative shots and reactions, and removing blinking in case of reversed shots. It doesn’t seem too bombastic, but there are almost a hundred of these shots throughout the film. I’m just more focused on actually working on the film than announcing anything or engaging in discourse online.

I wish I were a millionaire with an unlimited budget and time to work on TOTM only, but the reality is far different. I’m one of the VFX artists who unfortunately lost their job due to recent strikes, so I have to take on a side project now and then just to survive and take care of my family."

At one point recently he also mentioned possibly utilizing the 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray disc release of Kenobi to improve some shots for his VFX, and that comes out on April 30th. So my guess on release would be sometime this summer, maybe 3-4 months away? But he’s always been someone who works in spurts based on his profession, sometimes he’s been able to work on this edit very quickly and other times he has to take weeks off, so release predictions have been difficult on his end.

Very safe to say it will come out eventually though, he has invested an enormous amount of time and effort into this.

Thanks for all the comments, folks! It definitely looks like a consensus on making a longer high-quality Book 6 conclusion, and perhaps reevaluating in a year or two once we see the status of a Season 4/Mando movie. I am full steam ahead on this grand finale film.

EddieDean said:

It’s tricky. When I edited Clone Wars, there were times when I just had to include certain content, even though it was weaker. To my mind, since Season Three is weaker, I’d make that compromise, and have its movies just be the best I could make them. Your AI lines are excellent, and I think that gives you the best options here for improving season three’s movies. And I think your latest Book 5 is just so, so good. So for me, I’d stick with your book 5, and focus on doing what you can for Book 6/7 with the season three content.

You’re definitely drawn to your current approach - it’s where you ended up when you watched season three originally - so there must be merit to it. Instead of arguing my existing stance further, I’ll suggest a middle stance here instead, for your consideration:

• Book 5: Remains as it is right now. Mando and Boba focus, with Grogu absent.
• Book 6: A single movie from ALL of season three, trimmed, plus the remaining Grogu-Luke content. Perhaps you drop the vast majority of the sidequests from season three, including Gorian Shard’s pirates and perhaps even the rocky planet covert (using instead the movie 5 ringworld covert to set up the redemption). Have your Groguless redemption, almost directly into the hiring of Axe Woves and giving Bo Katan the darksaber, intercut with Grogu’s training and return to Mando, and then straight into reclaiming Mandalore since he’s just discovered it’s unpoisoned. That way, Mando’s arc is about redemption and reclaiming Mandalore all in one, and Grogu’s is about returning to Mando. Character focus amongst the large-scale conflict.

Looking at that proposed structure, the main challenge is that I need the Nevarro scenes with Bo-Katan and the Armorer. Those are quite essential, and I am currently re-voicing the Armorer here so that her reasoning makes a little more sense for Bo-Katan to remove her helmet and unite the clans for the sake of Mandalore, as I thought the original lines were quite confusing and vague. If I cut out the whole Nevarro-pirates arc, I lose why the Mandalorians use Nevarro as a staging ground. I am also altering Greef’s lines so that he doesn’t gift it to them as a home, he now thanks them and says he appreciates that they have moved past their rocky history together to a brighter future. Same with the Rock World scenes, I need a lot of those to drive forward main pot points regarding Bo-Katan.

At the end of the day, Boba Fett doesn’t have enough content to be a major player in both Books 5 AND 6, he can only shine in one of them. I think it makes a little more sense for the focus of Book 5 to be on Din rather than Boba, as we have just had Din go through such a transformative event by giving Grogu away and it’s a huge hook to see what he’s going through. I always thought he kind of helps Boba Fett for no reason in the D+ series and it was just forced so Grogu could join them, but if I structure this story into Book 6 instead, he has a big purpose for aiding Boba… He is buying himself a favor so that Boba is freed up to join the battle for Mandalore. I quite like bringing Boba back in Book 6 for a full story about trying to maintain control of his territory and contributing to Mandalore’s aid. I think we did a great carving out a high-quality Boba story to utilize, so I want to keep that intact but just shift it back to making him an integral part of the conclusion rather than having him drop off the map for Book 6.

In my outline above, Book 6 we see Din find belonging in his clan and serve a purpose in reuniting Boba and the Night Owls, he sacrifices and gives Bo-Katan the darksaber (in a new, revoiced speech that I think is MUCH stronger reasoning), he reunites with Grogu, and is a key figure in reclaiming Mandalore. So he gets a great arc in both Books 5 & 6 this way.

As far as the Pershing interlude idea, I just don’t think there’s that much I can do to improve it as a standalone story. I can make some very minor edits, but it is what it is… It’s just an out-of-place storyline that hogs the spotlight and doesn’t lead to much, but it’s well-produced for what it is. I am leaning towards utilizing several scenes in Book 6 to lead to Gideon’s return as my outline post above shows.

Will post some more preview scenes next week!

Hey, folks! I’ve still been working on this a ton and want to share some updates and receive feedback on a few things. (Scene demos at the bottom of the post if you don’t care to read a lot)

I have a good working cut of Book 5 that I need to do a watch-through review of now so that one is getting close to being ready. Most of my time has been spent on the next film, which has been quite enlightening as it’s my first time really deep-diving into this part of Season 3. In fact, it is my first time rewatching it since its release. As I attempted to fully flesh out Books 6 and 7, I’ve primarily discovered that the narrative of the final two episodes of Season 3 is extremely light on an impactful plot. In fact, these episodes are 80+% mindless action, and much of it is poorly choreographed/edited (“ARRGHHH MY CLONES!”, random break in plant cave “life just finds a way”, and the overall confusion of the layout of the base and order of events occurring). The Mandalore battle needs some drastic TLC to even function as an Act 3. In addition to this, there are almost no character moments for Din or Grogu leading up to the battle. Let’s think through the content I have access to after I already used the Mines, Pirates, and BoBF. I have:

1. Raptor takes Vizla kid (this seems very silly to spend time on before heading to Mandalore after we just experienced the weight of events regarding Grogu’s return and Bo-Katan getting the darksaber. This episode doesn’t work to serve as a backbone of an Act of a movie as it’s WAY too short in and of itself at only 18 minutes from capture to rescue. And especially in Book 7 to conclude this whole adventure… Imagine going to the theaters after waiting years following an awesome ending to the previous film, only to spend the whole first Act chasing a bird and running out of jetpack fuel. I have used a few minutes of this episode for a new scene, but it’s not an actual story that can carry an Act, it’s just a scene.)
2. Plazir-15 (Again, mostly a nonsensical sidequest and I struggle to show Lizzo/Jack Black here as they’re so incredibly the wrong tone for the “epic” I have tried to tell, nothing against them personally, but this is especially not something to do in a movie. It was a social media traffic engagement decision for weekly TV. However, I have indeed repurposed a ton of this episode for a decent Din/Bo-katan adventure leading up to Bo getting the darksaber, but this has to happen in Book 6. And it looks nothing like the D+ version as it primarily surrounds a mysterious imperial sympathizer and Boba Fett… More on that below)
3. Dr. Pershing content (I will be using some of this, but he will literally outshine Din and Grogu if I include it all as he has more scenes than them. I want to utilize some of this to lead up to Gideon’s return, but I can’t make Pershing a main character that gets more screen time than Din in this last film…)
4. The assault on Mandalore (Again, this is extremely light on story, and there is not a build-up to it before they launch. They have a 60-second dinner as Bo-katan rallies the troops, then they fly to Mandalore. There is a little bit of a character moment on the “hoverboat”, but it’s just a couple of minutes, and I promise you that having the assault on Mandalore start so fast in this movie feels awful)

If I combine all of Dr. Pershing, all of my unused BoBF scenes focusing on Boba, and the whole assault on Mandalore, I can indeed make a 2-hour movie. But Din and Grogu are only the focus of like 10-20% of it, and most of that is them fighting. They barely get any dialogue or development and it feels really terrible and jarring to watch. Look at how I’ve built TWoM up until now:

Book 1. ~50% of Season 1

Book 2. ~30% of Season 1 + ~30% of BoBF

Book 3. ~50% of Season 2

Book 4. ~50% of Season 2

Book 5. ~30% of Season 3 + 30% of BoBF

So for Books 6 & 7, that leaves me with:

~70% of Season 3 (but realize the majority of content of that 70% is Dr. Pershing, Raptor kid, and Plazir) and ~30% of BoBF (but realize the majority of that content is stuff I decided NOT to use anyway for Boba as it isn’t very strong). All of that to say… I’m having huge problems making a Book 7 that actually focuses on Din and Grogu. There just seriously isn’t the normal Din-Grogu content there that I’m used to, because for some reason Grogu goes away for all of Plazir-15, for some reason Grogu goes away for all of Raptor kid rescue, and for some reason Din and Grogu are not the focus of the assault on Mandalore and are mostly side characters in a larger narrative.

The only solution I’ve found is a longer 4-Act structured movie in Book 6 to conclude this saga, akin to Endgame. I think the Assault on Mandalore does work fine as a final battle after a bunch of character development for Din, Boba, Bo-katan, AND Grogu, but it doesn’t carry anywhere else.

If you’re still around, check out my proposed structure here:

Book 5 - The Apostate
Act 1: Set-up
EXT. RINGWORLD - from BoBF E05 - Din Djarin collects a bounty in exchange for information on the covert’s location, and uses the Darksaber but injures himself in the process
EXT. RINGWORLD - from BoBF E05 Din returns the bounty; Din finds the covert and Paz heals his wound; Din, Paz, and the Armorer discuss the Darksaber; the Armorer forges the beskar spear into chain mail; the Armorer lore dumps about Bo-Katan and the Purge; the Armorer and Din spar; Paz duels Din for the Darksaber; Din confesses and becomes an apostate; Din takes a commercial vessel to Nevarro
EXT. NEVARRO - from Mando S03 E01 - Din goes to Nevarro to get IG-11 repaired; Greef offers Din a place on Nevarro, but he declines since he has other things to attend to; Din and Greef run into pirates and fend them off; Din and Greef take IG-11 to the Anzellans, who say they can’t fix him; Din and Greef part ways for now in (added new scene from the end of S03 E08)
EXT. TATOOINE - From BoBF E05 - Din flies to Peli to get a new ship; Din and Peli repair and modify the N-1; Din tests the N-1 through Beggar’s Canyon; Din runs into Gorian Shard over Tatooine with (new AI line about being tracked), fights his snubfighters, and escapes, Din heads back to Pelli to get R5, then jets to Mandalore system after encountering X-wing patrol in orbit
EXT. KALEVALA - from Mando S03 E01 - Din travels to Kalevala to join Bo-Katan, learns she has been abandoned by her people, and tells her he will go to Mandalore
Act 2: Confrontation -
EXT. MANDALORE - from Mando S03 E02 - Din enters the Mandalore system, breaches the atmosphere, and lands; Din deploys R5 to take atmosphere readings; R5 disappears on the scope and Din leaves the ship to find him; Din gets attacked by Alamites, fends them off, and finds R5; back at the ship R5’s data reveals the air is breathable
EXT. MANDALORE - from Mando S03 E02 - Din goes to explore the Civic Center ruins in search of the mines; Din gets trapped by the cyborg crab thing and taken to its lair; Din sends a distress signal to R5 to get Bo-Katan; The N-1 arrives at Kalevala, Bo-Katan notices the empty cockpit and tells her droid to download R5’s data to figure out what happened; Bo-Katan ventures into the ruins to find Din; the cyborg puts Din in his cage on a holder and starts to drain his blood; Bo-Katan encounters Alamites on her way down; Bo-Katan finds Din and kills his captor using the Darksaber the cyborg took from him; from Mando S03 E05 - Pirate King Gorian Shard arrives above Nevarro and begins to assault the town, Greef Karga and his townspeople flee, Din wakes up as Bo-Katan prepares a soup for him, Din and Bo-Katan set off for the Living Waters; Din bathes in the waters but falls under the surface; Bo-Katan rescues him and sees the Mythosaur. from Mando S03 E05 - Carson receives distress call from Greef at Adelphi base and leaves for Coruscant;
EXT. MANDALORE-KALEVALA - from Mando S03 E03 - Din wakes up redeemed, Bo-Katan asks him if he saw anything alive, he says he didn’t; Din and Bo-Katan leave Mandalore and are ambushed by TIE Interceptors; Bo-Katan flies to Kalevala, Din drops to pilot the N-1 for backup; Bo-Katan evades the Interceptors through the canyons; Din and Bo-Katan eliminate the Interceptors; TIE Bombers destroy Bo-Katan’s castle; a bunch more TIEs come into play and Din and Bo-Katan escape, Carson arrives at Coruscant and asks for permission to help Nevarro, encounters Elia, and leaves unsuccessfully;
Act 3: Resolution -
EXT. ROCK WORLD - from Mando S03 E03 - Bo-Katan lands next to Din in her ship; Paz confronts Din, Din tells him he has been redeemed, Paz doesn’t believe him; Din brings vial of the Living Waters to the Armorer, who verifies it, Din is redeemed along with Bo-Katan, the Armorer takes Bo-Katan in to have her pauldron replaced; the Armorer makes a new pauldron with a signet of the Mythosaur, per Bo-Katan’s request; Carson finds the covert and requests them to help Nevarro since he can’t without abandoning his post; Din asks the covert to aid him in saving Nevarro, adding that they could relocate there before they retake Mandalore, Paz then speaks and gives his support, and rallies the rest to the cause;
EXT. NEVARRO - The covert sets off for Nevarro; the N-1 arrives, followed by Bo-Katan’s ship; the covert fights the pirates and successfully gets rid of them; Bo-Katan is given a task to lead the effort to reunite the scattered clans so that Mandalore can be reclaimed
EXT. OSSUS - from BoBF E06 - Din goes to Ossus to give Grogu his chain mail (R5 is in the droid slot of the N-1); R2 leads Din to the construction site; Din waits and meets Ahsoka; Din and Ahsoka talk about Grogu, and he expresses his desire to give him the chain mail; Din gives Ahsoka the chain mail to give to Grogu and leaves
END (2 hours, 9 minutes)

Book 6 - The Return (Scene order & Act 4 not final/finished)
Act 1: Stasis -
EXT. OSSUS - from BoBF E06 - On Ossus, Grogu meditates with Luke and uses the Force on a frog, Luke disapproves; Luke lifts several frogs; Grogu fails to train properly and Luke teaches a lesson
EXT. ROCK WORLD - from Mando S03 E01 - The Armorer forges Ragnar’s helmet and inducts him into the creed( saying his full name out loud and speaking Mando’a), The Armorer summons Din and they discuss reuniting the clans to reclaim Mandalore, Din voices distaste for having the darksaber but the Armorer wants to stay to tradition, Din states that he wishes to travel to Tatooine to see if Boba Fett is interested in joining them, Drom Mando S03 E04 - Din discusses this with Bo-Katan who expresses hesitancy to work with a Crime Lord
EXT. TATOOINE - From BoBF “present day” Boba scenes - Boba experiences intense dreams due to the weight and stress of being Daimyo, he travels into Mos Espa to look for the absent Mayor, only to discover an impending Pyke invasion of his territory, he prepares for war
EXT. OSSUS - from BoBF E06 - Grogu continues to train with Luke and starts to improve and see success in his efforts
EXT. TATOOINE - From BoBF “present day” Boba scenes - Boba is briefed about the gang and family movements in his territory and meets with the other family leaders to broker a truce, Fennec suggests recruiting more troops as Cobb Vance fends off the Pykes spice trade
Act 2: Thesis -
EXT. TATOOINE - from BoBF E05 - Din arrives at Peli’s spot to look for Boba Fett, but Fennec is already there; Din tells Fennec he was just looking for her, asking if he can talk with Boba, she counters saying they could use his help, mentions that he initially came to see if Boba would like to join the rest of the Mandalorians to retake Mandalore, Fennec assures Din that Boba will consider this, from BoBF E06 - Din lands at Boba’s palace; Fennec holds a strategy meeting with Boba and his allies regarding the Pyke Syndicate, where Din offers to help find footsoldiers; Din goes to Freetown to talk with Cobb Vanth about aiding Boba , which Cobb says he’ll consider; Cobb tells the Weequay to gather the fight-eligible townspeople; Cad Bane approaches Cobb at Freetown, threatens him, and shoots him; Cad reports the the missing Mayor who is revealed to be a traitor
EXT. TATOOINE - from BoBF E07 - Boba and Fennec setup a lookout in old ruins; Din enters and reports on him getting Cobb to gather soldiers, as the Mods convince Boba to wage the war on the Syndicate from the ruins; Din, Boba, and Fennec wait for Freetown’s reinforcements in the cantina, and discusses strategy as the Mods patrol and the rest of Boba’s team is stationed across Mos Espa; Boba is requested outside the ruins by Cad; Cad reveals he’s eliminated Cobb, and Boba and Cad reveal their backshooters; Fennec warns Boba to back off; Boba and Cad back off; The Mods call in to warn Boba that the families of Mos Espa laid a trap; the families attack Boba’s team; Boba sends Fennec to Mos Eisely to eliminate the head of the Syndicate; the Pykes surround the cantina; Mando tells Boba he intends to stick with him
EXT. TATOOINE - from BoBF E07 - Din and Boba fight the Pykes but become overpowered; the people of Freetown rescue Din and Boba; the Mods arrive and join the fight; Krrsantan arrives to join the fight but gets injured; the Pykes fall back, Din spots two Scorpenek droids; the people fire on the droids, their shields are too strong; the people flee as Din and Boba take the droids on; Boba goes to get reinforcements as Din continues to distract the droids; Din continues to lead one droid away, runs into Peli, the droid keeps coming so they flee; Boba returns, riding his Rancor to provide aid; Boba weakens one of the droid’s shields, which Din takes advantage of, chopping at the droid with the Darksaber; and Boba on the Rancor finishes the job; the other droid continues to attack the others, but the Rancor arrives and destroys the other droid; Din arrives and fends off the rest of the Pykes with the people and the Rancor; Cad shows up and gets rid of Boba’s Rancor, which runs off; Boba and Cad fight, and Boba kills Cad; Fennec eliminates the families and the Pykes; Boba and Fennec take in their town as it rebuilds, and as they talk about the bacta tank Cobb is seen with a Mod preparing over him; Din flies away and discusses with Boba over comms about joining Mandalore, Boba explains that he will lend a hand a soon as he deals with the Hutts who have already begun closing in on his territory next
Act 3: Antithesis -
EXT. CORUSCANT - from Mando S03 E03 - Dr. Pershing, now part of the Amnesty program, gives a talk on Coruscant, and is overwhelmed by the public outside the opera house, Pershing arrives at his Amnesty Housing and listens to a news report about Gideon’s war tribunal as he receives a mysterious Imperial gift
EXT. ROCK WORLD - from Mando S03 E04 - Bo-Katan leads a hunting party to kill a monster as she proves herself to be the leader that people expect her to be; they climb the mountain on ropes; they reach the summit, Paz is attacked by the raptor and the Mandalorians pursue as the raptor takes off; the Mandalorians subdue the raptor and it plummets and is eaten by the sea crocodile nearby the training grounds, the new monster charges the training grounds, from Mando S03 E01 - Din arrives back from Tatooine just in time to blast the monster to bits.
EXT. OSSUS - from BoBF E06 - Luke helps Grogu remember his past; from Mando S03 E04 - in his memories, Grogu is rescued from the 501st storming the Jedi Temple by Kelleran Beq; from BoBF E06 - Grogu wakes up, and Luke consoles him saying that the Galaxy is a dangerous place
EXT. CORUSCANT - from Mando S03 E03 - Pershing joins fellow Amnesty members in the courtyard for a drink, and sees Elia again; the officers drink together, Pershing struggles with the monotony and restrictions of life in the New Republic and tells Elia that it’s time to take action
EXT. ROCK WORLD - from Mando s03 E04 - Din reports to the Armorer about his mission with Boba, Bo-katan interrupts to say that she has tracked down the Night Owl Clan and briefs the others on the situation inside her ship, the Armorer tasks Bo and Din to gather the Night Owls for Mandalore
EXT. PLAZIR-15 - from Mando S03 E06 - Din and Bo-Katan arrive at Plazir 15 with the goal of uniting with the Night Owl clan before taking Mandalore; Din and Bo-Katan board the transport to meet with Axe Woves, but their ship is mysteriously hijacked and redirected to a landing pad, the attempt to reach Axe Wobes through the tram system, but are once again redirected to an an underground facility, Din communicates with the Ugnaughts to get the information they need about their mysterious hacker and the Ugnaughts give him information about a nearby warehouse; Bo-Katan asks Din about how he knew how to communicate with Ugnaughts, Din and Bo-Katan go to the loading docks to investigate, and find a battle droid parroting imperial orders and regulations; Din attacks the droids to provoke them to revealing more, a B2 droid runs away as Din takes it down, Bo-Katan finds the spark pad leading to The Resistor, Din and Bo-Katan investigate The Resistor, and learn about “The Machinist”, an imperial sympathizer who is reprogramming the planet’s droids to serve the imperial remnant
EXT. CORUSCANT - Pershing prepares for something serious and lays out his uniform as he psychs himself up; Elia and Pershing go to the train station, and sneak onto a train; Elia and Pershing arrive at next station and walk to a junkyard and find a Star Destroyer; Elia and Pershing express mutual respect before Dr. Pershing willingly steps into a secret room with a mindflayer, he gladly sacrifices himself as it is revealed that he had hacked the New Republic systems to discover Gideon’s location, but had mental blockers in place from the NR rehabilitation program and needed the mindflayer to rip the location out
EXT. PLAZIR-15 - Din and Bo-Katan go to the droid morgue to investigate where The Machinist is operating from and discover that he is a former ISB officer, Axe Woves takes a bounty contract for Boba Fett and captures Prince Jun from the Quarrens
EXT. TATOOINE - From BoBF “present day” Boba scenes - Boba Fett is confronted by the Hutts as he is threatened for getting too involved in Mandalorian nonsense and should focus on his business as Daimyo
EXT. PLAZIR-15 - Din and Bo-katan confront the ISB officer and neutralize him, now free to reach Axe Woves, they travel to the landed Mandalorian fleet, Bo-katan and Woves fight, and Din convinces everyone to follow Bo-katan as their Mand’alor
EXT. CORUSCANT - In orbit, it is discovered by xwing pilot guy that Gideon has escaped, and Elia checks in with Gideon to report on what he missed
EXT. NEVARRO - The mandalorian fleet arrives on Nevarro, unified
EXT. OSSUS - Din and Grogu reunite
Act 4: Synthesis -
EXT. TATOOINE - Boba deals with stuff and gets delayed
EXT. MANDALORE - Attack it

Would love to hear thoughts on any of that from those who are crazy enough to make it this far!

Finally, I want to share a few scene previews I’ve been toying with. None of these are final by any means or are 100% going to be in the film, just wanted to show some stuff that I play around with.

If you read any of the drafts above regarding Pershing’s scenes, this is something new I’ve been working on here. I replaced the crappy “This is coruscant, it’s a big city” thing that Pershing was listening to and replaced it with a custom-created news segment. I also tried to reframe the gift he receives to show that someone nearby still believes in the empire as he does. Not sure if the music works, but it feels flat without it too… so let me know what you think of this idea. Pershing demo scene

Relied heavily on AI lines for this, but kind of wanted to see how far I could take it. Some sound much better than others, but again this is just a very first test. The Armorer’s lines in the beginning are also AI and I think they for sure sound really good. I wanted Ragnar to get a namedrop, and I’m also trying to incorporate some Mando’a into this film.Din-Armorer demo scene

Another experiment with totally recreating some droid voices from scratch. Part of my effort is to reframe the Plazir story. This one is in the roughest state audio-wise, but you’ll get the idea. Bar Droid demo scene

Well… That was a lot! Feel free to launch a discussion about any of this, would love to talk and hear some feedback.

Darth Sadifous said:

Acbagel, I am excited to see what you are cooking up. I love this series and your passion! I expect the final product to be nothing short of spectacular.

Definitely my most creative work yet! Goes a bit back to my earlier books in terms of over structure, this book 6 reminds me a bit of Book 2/3.

Interested to see how the removal of the mod & krrsantan recruitments goes. I did not have an issue with them in your last edit. It was just how the water monger’s complaint lead to the recruitment of the wookie that seemed a bit of a logical leap. Also, I wasn’t the biggest fan of the Hutt Twins intro in the show as it lead ultimately to a nothing burger in the original serries, so I will be interested to see how their intergration in this edit has meaning.

I just think the recruitment scenes are a bit unnecessary when you aren’t showing Boba’s rise and how he’s trying to build from scraps. We jump into his storyline ~6-8 months after we last saw him, so he’s already got a decent power structure. And the mods play such a small overall part with only a couple lines anyway, I think it easily presents as that they’re just his bodyguards. Same with krrsantan, he’s more of an easter egg character that’s working for Boba in the background.

The Hutts will be the cause that delays Boba from helping on Mandalore in full force. All I’ll say is that the underworld and the imperial remnant will be in cahoots.

g00b said:

A look at the orange lightsaber in action: https://youtu.be/UXmOPrF6hyA

Fuuuuck man, you gotta warn people about that Yoda before they click xD

Orange saber looks fantastic though, great work!

stevepaynter said:

Ohh, would definitely be interested in “The Boys” - Acbagel movie saga.

I’ll wait and see if Season 4 holds up, but it’s a project that intrigues me. I was going to do The Witcher… but I seriously think it’s unfixable. I’ll wait 15 years for the HBO reboot…

No pressure, but do you envision Books 6 & 7 being completed by Easter (29th of March). I was hoping to do a binge water over the Easter Break with my fam.

Hmm, I can definitely say the new Book 5 will be ready, but the nature of 6 & 7 requires them both to be pretty fleshed out before either will be released. I haven’t gotten into the nitty gritty of bringing book 6 to release quality, and haven’t even started individual scene edits on 7. I can’t make any promises on if they’ll be ready by then, sorry!

TheDimitrios said:

This does sound amazing!

Thanks, super excited to share. I almost have Book 5 ready for my final review watch. Have new titles for the last 3 films now as well.

Book 5: The Apostate
Book 6: The Foundling
Book 7: The Return

EddieDean said:

Well, I trust your judgment, this could be a really great telling of the story! It gives you an opportunity to shift the scene of Boba taking the throne too, to make it a proper tag.

Maybe! Think it needs more fleshed out than just the dream snippets? There will be a little bit more setup of Boba already in the crime lord role this time around. As far as cuts/adds go for his scenes, I’ll be adding both of his Hutt confrontations and cutting the mod & krasanantantnt recruitments. He will already be more established by the time book 6 rolls around, so the whole plot of him trying to build from scraps is altered to him dealing with challenges to his already established authority.

Patali said:

Please send me updated links!

Sent!

EddieDean said:

Oooh, very curious about the changes coming to movie 5!

Made a ton of progress on everything over the past 24 hours. Still planning to post outlines by the weekend, but I now have my re-updated Book 5 (I promise, this is the last time aside from any bug fixes) in the beta stage and Book 6 fully organized into a ~2 hour film and in the Alpha stage. The complexity of all this also requires me to get the right scenes for Book 7 laid out too, so I have worked in there and am getting close to the right runtime (but the scenes are not entirely organized and still quite out of order) so I’ll say that’s in pre-alpha.

To give a brief summary, I am looking at going back to the base structure of Book 5 being like the 2023 “Groguless mines” release, but don’t worry! Boba will still get his dues, I’m not doing the “cut BoBF and make it a 6-movie saga” idea I had tossed around previously. I am confident that I have a solid plan in place to pace out Boba’s rule through Books 6 AND 7, plus the Dr. Pershing story fully integrated.

I have Grogu’s reunion in a good place at the end of Book 6, using a combination of Dazman’s initial vfx efforts (thank you so much for being willing to share your behind the scenes files, huge credit to you for all the groundwork you laid here) plus some new scene restructuring and my own personal touches. This reunion will happen on Ossus at Luke’s academy, as I have successfully split up Din’s visits into 2 entirely unique scenes. Can’t wait to share more! The passion is definitely back and I’m having a lot of fun staying up into the wee hours of the morning working on this.

Though… I am also really excited to work on the Bad Batch one day. After that, we shall see. I do want to tackle The Boys at some point… Big fan of that series and I think it’s begging for an acbagel movie saga too, but I’ll wait for the new season to conclude this summer.

Just another quick update, I have ~70 minutes of a rough draft for Book 6 so far. I’m working some things around for Books 5-7, so expect another update on that film too. Sorry…! But I do finally have a solid vision of how I want to complete this saga, so I’m going to finish organizing some scenes through the rest of this week and make sure Book 6 can stick its landing. It’s going to take me a while longer to release the film as I’m trying out some VFX for the Grogu reunion placement and want to make sure I get that right. I’m cooking, people! Give me a few more days and I’ll present the Book 5-7 outlines. I have the 3 movies scripted out pretty well now and I like a lot of what I’m seeing. I think more of my original vision is coming through and working this time. I have a better AI model made for Din’s voice too which is helping supplement a couple of lines. Will share more in a few days!

Thanks for the reviews, everyone! Getting through a stomach flu this last week, so haven’t been super active in editing. Mostly just moving segments around and creating a few individual scenes to be slotted in down the road. I have so much footage to work through and conceptualizing to do, that I’ve started using a movie script beat writing template to get it all in place on paper before trying to get it in video form. I’m looking at a lot of options here, so give me a few more days to recover and brainstorm and I’ll get some updates out for you!

Book 5 update is released! Thanks everyone, hope you enjoy. Post here or DM for the links.

Going to start restructuring and working on Book 6 after the weekend. That one will probably be a couple weeks of production as well since I have a lot to recreate in it.

EddieDean said:

I’ve seen the draft and it’s already my favourite version of the Boba show yet. Acbagel has selected the absolute right set of scenes, and made the absolute right set of trims to those scenes. I’m REALLY excited to see the final version of this one - I think it’s going to be the best way to watch Book of Boba Fett out there.

Thank you for the kind words and all the help you’ve given in this project over the last couple of years. Eddie has played a huge role in helping structure and review the films, so major props for all that work!

Darth Sadifous said:

I can’t wait…love this series. That is high praise from Eddie, but I know Acbagel deserves the praise and recognition. SO ready for the updated Book Five to drop!

Thanks! We are getting very close, see the end of this post for a progress report…!

TheDimitrios said:

Super excited for this to be finished. Then I can rewatch the Mandalore stuff while a presumably great Bad Batch edit is in the making. 😃

For sure, I’m really excited to work on that soon. Will have the full 3 seasons to see the big picture storyline and then be able to make solid movie edits akin to this Mandalore saga.

Patali said:

I have not watched most of your edits yet, my wife and were doing a chronological series watch through. We only just finished (well like a month ago) Eddie’s TCW:R and are now looking for movie edits for things like Rebels, Bad Batch and Andor. So it might be a minute. But, can I get up to date links to your latest versions?

Links sent!

As for what excites me about your edits… the thing I desired most out of the series was a LOOOONGG time away from Grogu. When Luke took Grogu in the S2 finale… the greatest moment Disney has had with the franchise… I was very excited at the prospect that we would probably not seee Grogu again until maybe the VERY finale of the series or later even, 2 to 4 seasons of content at the very least. I wanted them apart for years. You can imagine how dissapointed I was when only 2 more Din episodes later (his boba episodes), they’re already back together. That is why I haven’t even given Season 3 a chance, I havent even watched it.

(And of course like a mentioned before, how Boba was shafted in his content, I feel the way you’re pacing his content throughout Mandalorian is the best way to salvage his content, thank you for that)

So with that in mind, my biggest request for you going into these later edits, 6, 7, 8 etc, is, please do your best to keep them apart for as long as you can possibly get away with. I think the longer you hold it off, the more powerful it will be.

I definitely agree here. The ending of season 2 was my favorite Disney Star Wars content so far. That’s one of the few times it has felt like OG Star Wars to me. I’d say that, some other parts in Seasons 1/2, Grogu’s training in BoBF, Siege of Mandalore in TCW, half of Rogue One, some episodes of Andor/Tales of the Jedi, and a couple scenes in Ahsoka are my Star Wars film/tv highlights of the decade… That’s a bit sad, but at least we’ve had some moments rather than none! I will do everything I can to make this Grogu separation as long as possible as I believe their reuniting was absolutely disastrous for the story and future of the characters.

With that said, here is our (new) first installment of Grogu-less Mandalorian… a Book 5 progress report!

Wrapped up draft #2 yesterday and currently getting a final review of it. Will probably need one more pass for bug fixes and maybe a new scene placement or two and then it’s ready. So I’m looking at a Friday-Monday release depending on when I can get time to do one more review. In the meantime, I want to point out some of the highlights of this update and release the teasers.

Book 5: The Apostate update changelog:

• As discussed in the thread, I am reverting back to including the majority of Boba’s story in BoBF. I have merged my last Book 5 release with my 2022/23 version of Book of Boba Fett (with a lot of updates to both, I had actually made a newer version of my old Book 5 that I think I only privately showed to a few people before deciding to cut a lot of BoBF to work on the Season 3 content). This decision to reinstate the main plot of BoBF is intended to accomplish a few goals:

1. Give Boba his full character arc, consistent with how I’ve built him over the past few films.
2. Extend Grogu and Din’s separation for as long as possible.
3. Better organize events for Books 6 & 7.

• As this is a revamped version of my 2022 Book 5, pretty much the whole scene structure is different. Back then I was just trying to break ground by combining these shows by any means necessary. It wasn’t exactly in a theatrical film format with the best storytelling, it was an obvious fan edit. With my last round of updates, I’ve really focused on thematic storytelling, character arcs, scene order, and pacing, making it feel like a seamless movie release. So I’ve put that sort of polish on this film as a whole.

• We open on Din this time. It’s his series, and although I’ve made Boba a major character throughout this saga, Din is still the protagonist. After Din’s bounty hunting, we see what Boba is up to with a new opener for his character in a custom-created dream sequence that explains his inner turmoil. Using footage from the Tusken lizard vision, his bacta healings, etc, we now have a proper thematic intro for what he is doing and dealing with these days.

• In regard to the overall Pyke/crime lord story for Boba, from a DM conversation with Eddie:

EddieDean said:

• The Pykes onscreen aren’t a very interesting threat. They have no main characters, only working through agents. They’re literally a faceless army in this show, and in the end, they’re taken out quite easily by Fennec.
• They’re only a threat in the sense of being a nebulous presence of unknown size who intend to cause grief at a time when Boba doesn’t need extra grief. It’s not their story- they’re only relevant for what they implicitly represent to Boba- a challenge to his control.
• But, they do still have that impact on the audience, and having their presence explicitly ties everything together, in terms of his dealings with the character threats (assassins and Cad Bane) and other factions (the mayor, the three families).

Having them hang over the plot keeps the Boba plot feeling more tight and focused than keeping them a mystery, which means the three-act structure keeps the movie feeling like a complete movie, and it means that Boba’s central challenge (‘what kind of ruler will you be?’) keeps relating to their actions.

This is the approach I have now taken to the overall conflict against Boba. This principle has guided the pacing and scene structure, and how/when to introduce the antagonists (which I would argue aren’t necessarily the Pykes/crime lords, but the internal conflict Din and Boba deal with throughout).

• If there are some scenes missing that you still wanted to see Boba in… perhaps it’s because I am saving them for Book 6/7 😉

• I have removed all mentions of Din’s redemption. No discussion of the mines, waters, restoration… No hope. Din is on his solo journey, looking for a new purpose. He doesn’t engage in this quest for Mandalore at all in BoBF, so there’s no reason to even bring it up. After he lends a hand to Boba and realizes he still can’t be with Grogu, we will start to deal with the What’s next? in Book 6 and use the dialogue there to kick off his new journey.

• There are a LOT of small updates in this that I can’t even begin to list. From new audio, voice lines, soundtracks, scenes, and intricately chosen shot ordering (for example, when Cad says to Boba, “You never should have left him without his armor,” referring to Cobb getting shot, the Disney version then cuts to Boba’s reaction first, then Fennec’s reaction, THEN Din’s reaction of coming out with his blaster over 5 seconds later. No…! That’s not natural timing, and that’s not thematically the correct reaction for Din. When that line is delivered, we need to cut RIGHT to Din’s reactions to show his emotions as he hears that his friend has most likely been killed). I have taken this approach to countless scenes, from Boba’s meeting with the petitioners to the crime lords, to his Western with Cad, to Cad’s meeting with the Pyke & Mayor… I think there were a lot of sloppy shot selections in this show and I couldn’t have possibly caught everything, but I tried!

• With all that said, I’d like to leave some of the selected events as a surprise so that you can have a new experience as you watch this. The movie is clocking in around 2 hours and 5 minutes, which is right in line with where I have tried to keep my films.

Link to the trailer on YouTube.

Poster

Thanks, everyone, the release is right around the corner. Would love to be able to deliver for the weekend, but I can’t 100% promise it… Doing what I can to make that happen though!

Book 5 update going really well! Just taking some extra time in the kitchen with how much restructuring needed to be done. Merging my old BoBF film with my last Book 5 edit, so I had to go scene by scene through two films and create a new flow that works. Had a great first draft, now just moving some things around again and implementing a few new ideas, cleaning up the bugs, etc. Aiming to have it ready by the end of the week!

Thanks for an updated review, Kypo!

Jar Jar Bricks said:

Acbagel, did you already try turning up the “Style Exaggeration” setting to 50 percent? Also try applying the accent:Kiwi tag to the voice (or something similar to that if it doesn’t recognize it by being grayed out). I think doing both of these should make it more accurate.

I know Vader wasn’t working properly unless you had the “Style Exaggeration” setting up really high. Oh, and this goes without saying, but “Clarity and Similarity Enhancement” should always be at 100%. I also always apply speed:Slow to all clones because 11 labs tends to speak way too quickly.

Those are some good tips, I will try again with a Boba model based on that. I have clear voice lines from Boba to clone, so I’ll play with those settings and see if I can get closer. g00b sent me another possibility that I think would work too.

Kestrel said:

Well, I watched your previous v2 edit of Book 5 tonight and thought it was fantastic. Very glad that’s the direction you seem to be heading toward for v4. Could definitely be tightened up quite a bit – it drags at the 2:24 runtime. Will you be building off your v2 for the next update or starting fresh? If you’re going back to v2, I can offer some more extensive feedback

Also… Loving all the updates you’ve done on books 1-4. Only complaint is those runtimes. I know you aren’t willing to go sub 2 hours but I think all these edits could be much quicker/better paced. But I suppose that’s my personal preference 🤷‍♂️

Thanks for watching again! Yes, agree on tightening it up, I currently have the updated version at 2 hours and 4 minutes. I have a first rough draft of this update, and about halfway through reviewing it, so feel free to send any feedback you had on the previous version!

TheDimitrios said:

Will you also do some finishing touches for episode 0?

Yes, definitely will go back and improve Episode 0. I’ve improved a lot as an editor since I started this so I should be able to do some polish!

Hey, just an update on this since I’ve been getting a bunch of DMs asking for this edit with Season 3 looming…

This edit is nowhere near complete and has been on pause for a lot longer than expected as I’ve spent all my available time on my The Way of Mandalore project. I do still fully intend to come back to this ASAP, but it won’t be ready until after Season 3 of the show concludes. I did make that initial Episode 0 which is ONLY the Clone Wars episodes with some edits to keep the focus on the Bad Batch characters and to frame their presentation in the way I want them to appear in the rest of my Bad Batch saga, but it’s not even a full length film.

My first full film edit from TBB show itself was ~50% complete when I paused it to finish the Mandalorian project. This Bad Batch edit saga is next up on my plate to complete, but I still have 1-2 months of work on The Way of Mandalore before I can move over to this. Sorry, I know a lot of people wanted to see this to get ready for Season 3, but this will have to be for a rewatch. Hopefully seeing Season 3 will help make this the best edit it can be though! I’m excited to see the conclusion and then make a fun movie saga from the full storyline.

Definitely will miss Carl/Karga, was a cool character and he did a great performance. I don’t think I’ll need to adjust anything around his passing though as I am of the opinion that we will not be getting a Mando Season 4. I believe the coming two Din/Grogu/Ahsoka movies in 2026+ will continue their story instead of the show for the foreseeable future.

Darth Sadifous said:

I like EddieDeans structure proposal and I am eager to see how it plays out. I do need to go back and watch your original book five when I have a moment as it has been a minute. I am all for extending the Grogu and Din separation as much as possible, as Jon Faverau said in an interview I believe they were supposed to be apart for three years and honestly it does not even feel like three weeks in the original show.

Going well so far, I just about have a full rough draft of the new Book 5 which is a much more traditional Book of Boba Fett edit akin to my previous attempts at it. It definitely keeps the focus off Grogu and makes his absence noticeable, which should carry deep into my Book 6 as well. The original Favreau quote gets misinterpreted a lot as the “2 or 3 years” comment was in reference to real-life time from Mando Season 2 ending. He later clarified the in-universe timeline saying, “So now, I think somewhere in there, more than one and less than, you know, somewhere between zero and two years.” Still not a great quote and they have left it open-ended for whatever reason, but he seems to start to say “more than one year and less than two” before going back to more of a vague timeline. I think it’s safe to say it should seem that Din and Grogu are apart for at least a full year, whereas in the presented Disney content it feels like a couple of weeks as you mentioned.

As for trying to make Boba part of the retaking of Mandalore. I believe there are a few directions you may be able to go with the use of AI or depending on your/ this community’s editing skills with visual inserts as well. I know Jar Jar Bricks is amazing with AI.

You may want to connect with one another, as I think you could maybe use Din in his ship (helmet on obviously) conversing with Boba over the ship’s speaker using an AI convo for both men. You could have Boba saying he can’t make it unfortunately as he has his own problems putting down a gang war in his newly won territory on Tatooine (adding a mini hologram of Boba with helmet on would be even more ideal; think Palpatine during order 66 scenes with Plo Koon). Another more ambitious approach would be adding the Slave I to the fleet the amasses during season three to retake mandalore. The ship with a few Boba lines could really sell he is there helping. However, this may be out of the scope of your project, but I know it could be pulled off with the skills of people within this community. Just my two cents, let me know what you think!

For sure, I’m trying to integrate Boba as much as possible into the ending so I had a couple of easter eggs I’ve been working on myself. However, my biggest challenge has been his AI lines. I have not found any way to recreate his unique voice, and I’m not sure anyone else has either. I posted on one of Eddie’s threads about it, but if anyone has successfully made an AI Boba model, I would love to hear it!

Let me know if I missed anyone on links!

Darth Sadifous said:

So I just finished watching the updated Book Four…Bravo! This is my favorite book so far and I loved how you reworked the scene in the imperial commissary where Din no longer removes his helmet. The payoff of removing Din’s face reveal till the parting of him and Grogu on the imperial cruiser definetly worked for me…chef’s kiss!

I believe you used the updated deapfake of Luke’s face in the conclusion too and while it looks a little devoid of movement, I think it really sells it is “Mark Hamill” as Luke again. The Book of Boba Fett scenes vastly improved so I do not think they need touch up down the road. Overall, awesome job and you deserve all the flowers…this series is awesome; can’t wait for the revised book five.

Thanks for the review! Glad you had a good time with the movie. Yes, that is the fanmade deepfake Luke, and while you’re right that it does look a bit stiff emotionally, the Disney version really didn’t look like Luke so you have to pick your poison a bit on this scene. As you mentioned though, BoBF did a fantastic deepfake of Luke that gives emotion and resemblance (probably because they hired the guy who made the Mando Luke deepfake).

One minor continuity issue I may have noticed is during the battle of Tython there is one transport ship shown landing around the 46 minute mark, then we see through the scope there are two transport ships at 46:38 ish then at 47:30 another transport ship lands and drops off more troops, but there only appears to be two ships total and Boba Fett takes out only two later. So by the edit I believe it would imply three ships total, but one is unaccounted for by the end. It could be implied one took off during the battle off screen, but I thought it was worth mentioning as I know you heavily edited the scene to fix the student film quality directing of the original which worked for me btw!

Nice spot! Yes, I do need to move that first infrared scope scene back ~90 seconds to preserve the placement of the transports.

So what’s the plan for Book 5? I spent 12+ hours over the weekend going through books 5/6 to examine my options. I enjoyed the uniqueness of my previous book 5 a lot and I think it did a ton right, but unfortunately, I may have written myself into a little corner with it. I loved the idea of pacing out Boba’s story into the later content of the saga, but there really is just no way to build anything out of it. I wanted to frame something about Din trying to get Boba to join the retaking of Mandalore and use the Tatooine battle as part of that, but the lack of dialogue with Din and Boba outside of battle scenes is extremely limiting. There’s not even a scene post-Tatooine of them together whatsoever. Battle ends with them apart, and there’s no ending dialogue at all. Din just leaves the planet without a scene with Boba so it can focus on Grogu. Really dislike it, but it is what it is. Thankfully, with the great feedback about some of my previous poor ideas, EddieDean proposed this:

EddieDean said:

… maybe there’s a less radical ordering here, where you can get both the most out of the Boba story AND extend out the time that Mando and Grogu were apart, which I know is a (sensible) priority for you. So how about something closer to the ordering of the original release, but just using your Book 5 edits to keep Din and Grogu apart for longer:

• Movies 1-4 as before. They’re perfect. Din’s lost his ship and his kid. He thinks the Mandalorians are scattered. [Offscreen] he’s ordered a new ship from Peli, but it’ll be a while.
• Movie 5 pretty much just from BoBF, but Din and Grogu DON’T reunite. Mando is back to bounty hunting, listless, no clan. He chases the bounty against the dog-butcher people to find the Covert, meets them, makes a gift for Grogu, and gets kicked out. No mention of redemption - he’s now at his absolute lowest. He goes to get his ordered ship (so he can go visit Grogu as much as use it for hunting) and gets pulled in to Boba’s whole storyline on Tattooine (which becomes the main plot of the movie, happening throughout this storyline). After helping Boba, he heads to Luke’s planet, and gives Ahsoka the gift, but is discouraged from meeting Grogu, who we only see distantly. He’s now realised he really needs a family (thanks Boba) and, without Grogu, wants to give the Mandalorians another try.
• Either at the end of Movie 5 or the start of Movie 6, he goes to the Covert now on the Rocky planet (using more of his original entrance there). THIS time he’s much more desperate - he asks to atone. Only NOW does he learn he can do that at the waters of Mandalore. NOW he has a fresh mission - and still no Grogu.
• Most of your current Book 5 now becomes your Book 6. We don’t have your current content on the ringworld or with Pelli remaking the ship, which removes ~35 minutes (of 2h20) which gets us to the Vane/Gorian Shard plot much sooner. We instead fill that lost time with Luke training Grogu, and perhaps the Mando-birds sideplot. At the end of the movie, we see Grogu making the decision to rejoin Din, and cut to them flying together (using the technique for this you used previously where they blast off together).
• Movie 7: Now follows directly from the aftermath of the Gorian Shard fight, where the Mandalorians have safe haven on Nevarro but Bo-Katan’s been tasked to gather the clans and reclaim their home, and Grogu and Din are with them. We open with Bo and Din going to rescue Axe Woves (they don’t get distracted by the rest of Plazir) and Bo finally takes the Darksaber back. Now we’re ready to lead people to Mandalore. We continue with the two finale episodes, which are a nice straightforward story using all the pieces we currently have in play, but we intercut this with the full Pershing story. The Pershing story fits here most of all because (1) it builds on the current knowledge of the Imperial Remnant and New Republic, but mostly (2) because it ties closely back into the cloning plot and the reveal of Gideon’s plans. The scene of Carson finding that Gideon escaped can come just after it’s discussed by Pershing, to better tie it all together and keep the whole movie on theme.

Also, this way, each movie would come out closer to 120-140 minutes.

Going through the pros & cons of this structure:

Pros -

1. Overall storyline is much easier to structure, will need to rely less on AI lines, and have fewer gaps in connective tissue.
2. Fixes my biggest scene hiccup in current book 5 of the X-wing pullover scene and the pirate dogfight balance
3. Better paced full Boba story that doesn’t feel like a distraction, continues the flow of Din and Boba’s journey (at least for one more movie)
4. Longer solo journey for Din, more time away from Grogu, longer time as not a mandalorian
5. Gives me more flexibility to move around scenes within season 3, and probably can make the Dr. Pershing story fit

Cons -

1. Boba’s storyline falls off significantly after Book 5 (I will work in a couple of scenes and easter eggs that I already made, but he can’t be a major plotline and with him in Books 3-5 so heavily it definitely is noticeable that he is less of a main character)
2. Less of a unique storyline structure compared to my previous Book 5 where Din fits in a Nevarro trip before Tatooine
3. Doesn’t feel like Din does much to reunite the clans compared to my previous structure of him trying to get Boba to join
4. Maintains my previous criticism of the Mandalorians inheriting Nevarro feeling a bit worthless since they almost immediately leave to Mandalore anyway
5. Bo-katan is absent from Book 5, while Boba is pretty absent from Book 6-7. Instead of them both having important side character arcs in 5-7, it feels like they swap places.

So right now I’m putting together a Book 5/6 with the Eddie proposed structure to see how it all meshes, and I like it overall so far. But just wanted to toss out my thoughts and see if anyone has any additional feedback that could spark some creativity.

I have some pretty cool Book 6 scenes setup to keep Boba somewhat involved by utilizing Plazir 15 content + Boba and the Hutts, but again it’s nothing major and more just some easter eggs so he doesn’t feel completely written away like Disney did.

Wrapped up production today! Finishing the exports and uploads, and links will go out tomorrow.

Book 4: The Way update changelog:

• Extended a couple of shots on Corvus for better scene transitions
• Added more to Mando’s walk through the village so he meets a downtrodden villager

EddieDean said:

Then, in your Book 4, you could introduce “I’ve placed a tracker” and that subplot just after Mando leaves the planet with that ex-Imperial warlord. We know she’s got ties to Thrawn, and thus the Shadow Council, so it’s absolutely feasible that an Imperial spy could be operating there to report back to Gideon. The dialogue there would reinforce that Gideon wants Grogu - and then he’d strike immediately, on the very next planet, where Din finally meets Boba and the Imperials show up to kidnap Grogu.

• As the tracker scene moved out of the last movie, it’s now placed in Book 4 after Din’s “You’re special” talk with Grogu as they leave Corvus.
• Extended scene of Fennec getting surrounded by stormtroopers on Tython before Din saves her (man the choreography is so unfixably bad here, but I made some edits to make it seem more chaotic and it’s tolerable). Previously I had cut too much to cover up the crappy directing but it didn’t give enough context for the viewer to fully process the sequence of events.
• Cut “The little green guy?” back and forth between Mayfeld and Cara. I thought it worked to leave it in because I assumed people would take it as Mayfeld simply repeating what Cara said and not showing familiarity, but there were numerous comments of people saying Mayfeld shouldn’t know about Grogu so obviously something about the tone of his voice was still communicating recognition, so it’s all cut now.
• Rescored the TIE fighter saving Din and Mayfeld scene. Lots of comments from people who didn’t like Disney’s overly happy-sounding score here so I gave it more of a menacing imperial vibe while still trying to communicate the “victorious irony” of them being saved by the people trying to kill them. Hope it communicates a different feeling than the original.
• Took a new approach to the Imperial officer scene this time around. This segment has been the biggest challenge for every version of the film to get right. From the beginning, I have hated Din taking his helmet off here, especially in movie format as it really, really cheapens when he does it for Grogu in the climax. Since I hid the previous face reveal before, having that moment be the first time we see Din’s face is incredible. My wife watched this story for the first time through my edits and it was such a cool moment seeing her reaction, as she didn’t even know who Din’s actor was and his face was not at all what she imagined. She said, “I thought he was going to look like a badass, but he just looks like any average dad,” which I think is a perfect summation of Din’s character arc in general. Anyways, this officer scene is amazingly well directed, one of the best scenes in the whole show. So I’ve always had the struggle of trying save a great face reveal by trying to keep as much as possible of a great scene that ruins the face reveal. My previous attempt was a little janky, and most people noticed there were some unnatural cuts around here. I’ve done my best to extend the scene as much as possible now with some new shots and voice modulation on Din’s lines, an AI line for the imperial officer, and some new scene ordering. I’ve tried to get it to play out so Din is about to be caught (still wearing the helmet) for giving crappy answers, but then Mayfeld jumps in and the Imperial Officer immediately recognizes him and wants to get him a drink. So Din stays at the terminal while Mayfeld and his old commander catch up, leading to the shootout. Hope this one is at least an improvement over the last version! I’ve tried everything here short of hiring a 3d artist to CGI that helmet and put it on Din lol (and I did look online to see if any were already made… no luck). Overall, I do think this update is my best solution yet and that the scene works now.
• Fixed a couple of a/v transitions and added some new sfx throughout the film (better explosions, blaster shots, ship noises, etc)

Trailer!

Poster!

Thanks for watching my edits, Book 4 links tomorrow, and Book 5 next week!

EddieDean said:

One other thought: Depending on how good your Boba AI voice is, it might be nice to add, during the Boba-Fennec fireside chat in movie 2, something along the lines of “but first I’m going to get my armour back”, explaining the two-movie diversion where he seeks his armour before establishing a house.

Thanks for the review and all the feedback! I haven’t been able to make any model of unmasked Boba that sounds like him. The voice is so unique, that I can’t get any tech to replicate it well at all. Honestly, Temeura talks like Boba in real life so I looked into just using some interview/video clips, but I didn’t find any lines that would help. I like this idea though.

Kestrel said:

Still waiting for an updated book 3 link. Was hoping to watch it tonight so I’ll take it from anyone 😅

Sorry, I missed you, sent! If I missed anyone else, please feel free to reach out to me again, it’s not a bother!

The updated Book 2 with Fennec scene minus head injury and Greef betrayal now clocks in at 2 hours 26 minutes which I like more, and the Act 2:Act3 ratio is now much closer in length so I think it’s the right call. Uploading the adjusted Books 1 and 2 right now.

I’ve reviewed all the feedback in the thread about Book 4, and the consensus changes I’m tracking are:

• Couple visual/audio transition adjustments
• Add a brief scene in the forest village of the citizens being abused
• Add the tracker scene that was removed from previous film
• Remove Mayfeld’s apparent familiarity with Grogu
• Rescore the “victory” music after the TIE’s save Din and Mayfeld
• Extend the Officer at the cafe conversation a bit more

Maybe a couple of other very minor adjustments Kypo suggested, but this one was close to being good to lock as it was.

As I work on those few updates, I’m also going to deploy the final fixes on Book 1 & 2.

Book 1:

• Extend the blue guy scene on the Razorcrest to not end so abruptly in carbonite. For some reason the line of “Do you guys take off your helmets?” straight into the carbonite was jarring, so I let the conversation play out a little longer before that transition and the timing works a bit better now.
• Remove the duplicated Razorcrest arrival shot on the mercenary space station.

Book 2:

• Extend Fennec-Rookie conversation
• Cut down the head injury scene to the bare minimum
• Cut the whole Greef betrayal plot and nighttime bird attack…? (I’m taking a look at this right now, want to see what these 3 changes to to the total runtime/pacing)

Darth Sadifous said:

Hey Acbagel,

I went back and checked regarding my previous comments in regards to continuity. I believe I was referring to the end of Book Two where Boba is talking to Fennec about how you can only gets so far without a tribe by the fire (2:25). His robs are acid burned, but he does not visit the sarlac pit to retrieve his armor and get the acid burns on his cloak until book three (0:25). Not a big deal, but just wanted to point it out.

Ah gotcha, that’s a good catch on the details, but I don’t think it’s anything worth moving scenes over. Since this is a costume difference in between whole movies I think there are multiple in-universe explanations for why the robes might look more or less tattered over time.

In terms of Moff Giedon’s facial hair I was say I was prepared for it to be jarring since his look is different in season two and season three. I went back and watched the new book three for a second time and I can so those fears are unfounded. You did a great job with the face. I just wasn’t a 100% sure you had tinkered with it since the hologram scene is not 100% clear image of his face and the stinger is a long shot from far away. Also it has been some time since I watched the original presentation of those scenes. Look forward to book four!

Great! Yeah, a lot of the close-ups are now removed anyway with the new tracker scene placement, so his appearance is good to go across the films as it doesn’t ever change within the same movie.

Also, I think I am for extending the Fennec being shot scene and keeping the Greef/ Mando conflict scene. I think it is important to see his change of heart and while I know many do not like the sequels, I think it helps reinforce force heal in the universe as we see both Grogu and Rey use it more than once. I would trim the Mando head injury if one needs to be cut as I feel without the helmet removal included, the scene is not that important and he is back with the gang only like a minute later so that gets my vote for the trim.

I can’t keep those two lengthy scenes in, the film just goes on for too long. And the more I look at it the more I like the total balance of the film to have the longer Act 2 with the Fennec scene and trim down Act 3 with the cuts. That just helps the pacing of Boba’s story in general anyway. Missing Greef’s change of heart over being healed is the toughest part to lose, but they don’t really bring that up ever again in the entire show so it’s sadly unimportant overall. I think we can get away with Greef’s demeanor toward Din and Grogu being a natural result of their shared experiences rather than the whole “I was going to kill you until I got poisoned by a bird and you saved me” explanation. I have completely altered the Rey force healing to not occur like that in my Sequels trilogy anyway as that type of force healing power completely broke Legends lore, so I’m actually glad to be able to cut Grogu doing that as well as I want these edits to feel as Legends friendly as possible. I always thought there’d be some sort of explanation for Grogu’s unique healing power, but then it’s just never addressed at all and then poof Rey was doing it in the theater a couple of months later and I hated it there too. But alas, I think the cuts help the pacing in general as Eddie suggested.

Book 3 seems good to go as is, so I’m still on pace for the Book 4 release this week!

Darth Sadifous said:

I finished the revised book three recently and I do love what you have done with it! The standout scenes in my opinion is Boba being responsible for the speederbike crash of Din’s when he is carry his armor back to town. I also like the end montage from the introduction of the shadow council scene from season three, to the brief scene borrowed from season three with the mandos amassing their fleet and finally Boba with his “tribe” and Din with his “tribe”. You have done a great job. Cannot wait till the updated book four!

Minor Note: I was a bit concerned about continuity issue as you have moved scenes around from different scenes. The Moff Gideon scene was the biggest concern, especially how close the hologram scene is during the mando heist on the cargo ship and the shadow council scene and the stinger at the end of the moff overlooking his dark troopers (regarding is his facial hair appearing, disappearing and reappearing). However, I think it works as the hologram is not very clear, then you have the shadow council scene, then you have a long shot of him admiring the dark troopers. Only other minor continuity scene I believe I found, but I could be mistaken is moving Boba’s scenes around his cloak is burned by the acid in some earlier scenes now that are moved around before he visits the sarlacc, but overall it is not too noticeable. I do love this series and look forward to seeing how you save the modern day Boba Fett scenes and season three of mando. Keep up the great work and may the force be with you!

Thanks for the review! Book 4 had the least amount of needed updates, so that should definitely be out sometime this coming week.

Regarding the continuity of those scenes, I don’t think there should be any instances of Gideon’s facial hair changing. As you can see in the picture, I had deepfaked his season 3 face onto his scenes in this film to remove his facial hair and color-masked his hair to be black instead of grey in the shadow council scene.

Are there specific timestamps from where you noticed inconsistencies in his appearance? I can touch those up if there is something that jumps out.

For Boba’s robes, I hadn’t ever noticed that before but I can look at the scene order and see if I can maybe mask some of that too if it’s distracting. You said you might be mistaken, but if it stuck out to you, can you see which scenes you were saying the acid burns are there vs not?

EddieDean said:

Loved both movies 1 and 2. Both are structured excellently, feel focused and movie-like, and flow well. I especially enjoyed the balance of Boba/Mando in movie 2, and the movement of Sorgan to exclusively book two. I wouldn’t change any of their structure, stories, or trims. And your audio editing has got noticeably smoother. Definitely my mains.

However, you have a major issue with colour in book one. I know you’ve responded to comments here, but it’s a significant deterioration of colour, and more than just saturation, it’s added really strong unnatural shades of teal and orange. Have a look at the difference: https://ibb.co/NK2Gby3. If it’s deliberate recolouring, please reconsider! If not, something is going wrong in your pipeline - either an effect is being applied (and it should be easy to un-apply it), or you’re reading the files in a slightly incorrect colour space that’s maybe being compounded if your later versions are editing the rendered outputs of your earlier versions. This might be related to your crushed blacks issue from before, which also suggests a slightly incorrect colour space is being read. I know I’ve been a bit of a hound about these edits but I feel like they’re such a good idea and so well-executed that I just really want to champion you getting them to that 100% quality.

Great, then I’m going to do a couple of tiny bug fixes/adjustments on Book 1/2, but overall it sounds like the story is locked on the first 3 and ready to be considered complete!

As far as the color goes, I definitely prefer colorful visuals to the drab washed-out appearance that Disney Star Wars seems to lean toward. I have done color adjustments to every planet uniquely, but the pic you sent looks quite drastic and I suspect I made an adjustment layer on top of the scene in addition to adjusting the scene itself, which would double the intended effect. I will take a peak. As far as the blacks/banding go, I haven’t been able to address it at all. It’s burnt into the source footage on my timeline to begin with and I’d need to remake dozens of hours of work to fix it. I love crystal clear 4k footage as much as anyone, but as I’ve said before this project originated in my basement pre-covid and was my first foray into fan editing. I had very early versions of these films made just for me and my wife to watch back then, years before I even knew this website existed. If I ever hit a total lull in the action on editing, I have mentioned before I’d like to manually go frame by frame to replace all the bad-looking scenes with 4k, but at this point, I’d rather work on the story than spend a couple months solely on a visual update. Trust me, I know as is it knocks a point or two off of the films as far as reviews go, but it’s just a monster task to fix right now.

Other than that:

• Book one is great, as I say. You do still have the duplicated shot of Mando approaching the pirate station though. I think you can trim the second one away no problem.
• In book two, as I mentioned in a previous post, that duplicated scene.
• For me, even though your new book 2 improves the balance and pacing through to the ending, I’d probably still prefer to trim the Mando-Greef conflict and Mando’s head injury being serious, but that’s just me and I get why you’ve done that.

Looking forward to 3!

1. Ah yes, I will fix that one. I recall an old post about that now.
2. Already fixed and new version is up
3. I do believe if the adjustment to the Fennec v Rookie scene is made, then yes absolutely the Greef + injury scenes need to be cut. For anyone who hasn’t seen Eddie’s idea here, refer to this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GJq4g3QRwLhOrpgI2eNySS7UaQkIXHxb/view

How do we feel about extending the Fennec death back to full, and trimming the Act 3 segment on Nevarro like Eddie suggests? I can’t keep all three scenes at full length, the film already drags on a bit too long as is. These are all changes I’ve gone back and forth on a lot so I’m open to a couple yays or nays to push me over the edge here.

Also, thank you to everyone else who has left kind words about the edits. It’s been an incredible experience working on this saga with such caring feedback and suggestions. The brainstorming that has occurred in this thread has been phenomenal. The films have grown so much and really feel like something special due to how many ideas have come from the Star Wars fan community.