Acbagel

EddieDean said:

Sorry to ask you to repeat yourself - I dug back through the history of this thread but couldn’t find a clear answer - which of your plans did you end up going for for your new Books 5 and 6? What’re the rough plot beats of both? If I remember correctly you’re pulling the BoBF content into Book 6, making Book 5 the start of Mando season 3?

Book 5 is apostate journey through Nevarro pirates. Book 6 is Tatooine with Boba + Grogu training through new Plazir and Mandalore. Book 6 is a 3-3.5 hour film ala “Endgame” to conclude TWoM saga.

godbilla said:

I just spent the last two weeks bingeing book 1 to 5 and I really liked what I saw. I haven’t watched both series since release and this was a great way to kill two birds with one stone.
Super excited to hear that book 6 is well on its way, and truth be told I almost didn’t continue on my watch simply because I heard you were in the process of making subtitle versions. But I caved and I loved every minute of it.

Awesome, glad you had a good time! Book 6 is indeed going well, we’re working through the battle of Mandalore right now, it’s pretty fun since it’s the part of the show i’ve watched through the least amount of times. I am literally writing out scene beats on flashcards and reorganizing everything to make something a bit more watchable, the geography of this base in the show is nonexistent so I’m trying to make something sensible.

Yes, speaking of Subtitles! Thanks to g00b…

The Way of Mandalore Book 1 is now released WITH subtitles and metadata/chapters as an MKV file. So anyone who needs that is welcome to DM me for access. Unfortunately, I got locked out of the account that had the first 2 films on it so I have new links for that version of Book 1 that you’ll need. No promises on timing of subtitles for the other films, but the first one is done!

beachedwhale said:

Great to hear, always a surprise to be sure but a welcome one with these updates. I’m still looking forward to this more than anything out or upcoming at cinemas, especially with you salvaging the modern day Boba bits

Wow, thanks! Super excited to share this one. Production is going very well! Into the last hour of the film, working through Mandalore right now. Still on pace for a late summer/early fall release.

Nalier said:

Hey, Acbagel! Will Book 6 be the last of your movies? I feel like the rest of Boba Fett’s story and the fight for Mandalore could be hard to compile into one two-hour film. And one plot line could take away from the other.

Btw - I hope you’re planning on editing the upcoming Mandalorian and Grogu film to fit with your storyline ^^

Hello, Nailer! Good question. Yes, Book 6 will be the last film (until The Mandalorian and Grogu movie comes out). You are correct that there’s no way to shove all of the needed main events into a 2 hour film, but there’s also not enough footage to make two 2-hour films, so this is going to be a 3-3.5 hour epic conclusion film à la Avengers Endgame.

LeviathanTDS said:

Acbagel said:

Hacai said:

Hi Acbagel, great project!

I have a question, if it has come up before then I apologize 😃 Are you planning to release this project in native 4K?

Almost all the source material has already appeared on Blu-ray (From what I recall, The Book of Boba Fett is due for release sometime this year). Somewhere I saw a comparison of the D+ version with the one on Blu-ray for the Obi-Wan Kenobi series, and gee, there’s a difference 😉

Thanks! Books 1-4 will not be re-released in native 4k, Books 5-6 are in native 4k.

zebweasel said:

Just wanted to say I’ve watched the first two books so far and think it’s fantastic! You did a great job. I was wondering if I could also get your Bad Batch episode 0? I’ve heard good things.

Thanks Zeb, glad you’re having a good time with it! Sure, I’ll DM you about TBB.

I thought your Bad Batch 0 was sheleved. Is it complete?

BB Ep. 0 has been released for a while, it’s just a touch up edit of the Clone Wars episodes to focus on TBB characters as the main characters and to get their personalities/tone of the story more in line with how I was planning to do for TBB show. But the whole TBB is indeed on hiatus, but any further conversation about that can go here: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Bad-Batch-Cinematic-Version-A-More-Mature-Edit-WIP/id/90466/page/1#1460152

TWoM update! I’m like 95% done the Yavin Grogu reunion scene now, moving onto getting the final Nevarro prep scenes made now and fixing Greef’s non-reactions to Grogu. Then it’s onto Mandalore for the final Act of the film!

Thanks for the continued interest! I would indeed like to revisit these one day, can’t promise it’ll be anytime this year now, but perhaps it’s a project for next year. There is a LOT I could do to change things with all the new skills and tools I’ve picked up since I first started making these in 2020.

Hacai said:

Hi Acbagel, great project!

I have a question, if it has come up before then I apologize 😃 Are you planning to release this project in native 4K?

Almost all the source material has already appeared on Blu-ray (From what I recall, The Book of Boba Fett is due for release sometime this year). Somewhere I saw a comparison of the D+ version with the one on Blu-ray for the Obi-Wan Kenobi series, and gee, there’s a difference 😉

Thanks! Books 1-4 will not be re-released in native 4k, Books 5-6 are in native 4k.

zebweasel said:

Just wanted to say I’ve watched the first two books so far and think it’s fantastic! You did a great job. I was wondering if I could also get your Bad Batch episode 0? I’ve heard good things.

Thanks Zeb, glad you’re having a good time with it! Sure, I’ll DM you about TBB.

Purple Plazir is complete! Check out the video preview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApCyPaSKEZ0

Thanks for the continued interest everyone! Like oojason said, I don’t personally mind requests in here but also just feel free to DM me for link requests so we can keep this thread focused on discussion and feedback for the edit! If you have something specific you want to share about your thoughts regarding the edit that contributes to discussion in addition to asking for a link though don’t hesitate to share though!

Speaking of updates… I haven’t been as active updating you good folks on here, simply because I’m doing a TON of updates on my youtube channel, but I want to bring you OT folks up to speed on progress. First gotta give huge shoutouts to darthg00b (been helping me with dialogue writing and VFX) and Shoya Haa’runi (does EXCELLENT with all my Mando’a translation scripts I send him).

So I’m about at the 1 hour 50 minute mark out of the 3 hour film, and we’re making amazing progress. I am starting Round 2 of work on the Darksaber transition scene now redoing some of the conversation and Mando’a and finishing the rotoscoping Grogu out. Once I’m through that, it’s onto the Grogu reunion scene as the next big task then the final battle of Mandalore deep diving for first time. I’d say I’m on pace for an early-mid summer release!

Couple of specifics:

If you want to see how Boba Fett ACTUALLY feeds his would-be Hutt assassin to his rancor rather than the “There’s no rancor” gag, check this out (Thank you darthg00b for Rancor rotoscope work!): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT1s6jDzwcc

Also to keep bragging on g00b… After my last stream where we were critiquing some of the set pieces on Plazir for being overly earth-like with regular earth trees and regular earth grass all over the place (especially bad in the Darksaber set), he made some mockups for how we could transform Plazir into something much more… Majestic.

Again, like the Cad Bane rework (which I am still toying with), it CAN be done it’s just all down to a cost benefit analysis… Every feature we add makes the end product better, but I WOULD like to actually release this before the Mando movie in 2026 lol

Final g00b brag before my own updates… He’s also helping with color and reflections on the rotoscope work for the Grogu reunion demo I shared a while back. Notice the red/brown sand reflections on the armor changed to green Yavin tree reflections:

So what have I been doing as g00b is trucking away? Shoooot… There’s too much to type haha, but I have dozens of hours of livestreams over at https://www.youtube.com/@acbagel/streams detailing the hundreds of changes. From frame-by-frame combat analysis to writing and plugging in the alien dialgoue SFX to overarching storyline structuring to pacing out my 4-Act A/B/C plot structure and so on… It’s becoming a real team effort! But overall, everything I’ve previously said in this thread is truly coming to life! Building my dream here with this movie, and I’m VERY happy with everything so far. The justice that is being done to Boba Fett by giving him a REAL character arc in Book 6 instead of being written out of the series is warming my heart. Thanks to everyone who is following this project. I hope the final release brings you joy! Please share any thoughts or desires you have for this film and we can try to make them happen.

Back to work.

Amazing trailer! Definitely interested in seeing your vision for this, looks quite transformative which I think the show really needed!

Well here’s Tony Gilroy addressing it directly to guide your decision:

“In canon, she’s rescued by the Gold Squadron and the speech that they gave in the cartoon, which was a canonical show, is on that ship. And we were like, ‘Do I have to stick to this f—ing speech?’ In a really sneaky way, we’re minimizing what they did in Star Wars Rebels, but we’re keeping it consistent. We’re just saying you don’t really know the whole story of what happened.”

Everyone, get hyped for the Twilight of the Apprentice update! I’ve seen the draft version and it’s absolutely a gamechanger for elevating the content. Can’t wait for you all to see it too!

Also g00b, what do you think about replacing the dialogue of Mon Mothma’s speech in S3E18 (not sure where in your series that falls) with the speech from Andor last night? There’s an odd lack of continuity between them now, but I don’t think it would be too hard to bring the Andor audio into that holotransmission to fix that!

TheDimitrios said:

Personally, I thought the design was close enough. The Inquisitors in Kenobi were in desperate need of fixing, some people did not even recognize the Grand Inquisitor, so that was work well spent for Trials of the Master. Investing big amounts of time to make Bane look 10% better is not worth it imo.

Thanks everyone for the feedback on Bane! I’m at least pausing on it for now, will decide later on if I want to come back and do it. There are also multiple other editors just starting work on it so I’m trying to coordinate with some about each of us doing certain parts of it so we aren’t all repeating work.

I haven’t been posting as many updates on this thread since I’ve started livestreaming updates on my YT channel, but we are making great progress on Book 6! I just passed the 50% mark on the final passthrough, so it’s definitely looking like it’s on pace for early summer.

Sirius said:

Live action Ahsoka is shit, unfortunately

Artan42 said:

Sirius said:

Live action Ahsoka is shit, unfortunately

Nope. It’s great.

Can I take a position in the middle on this haha? I really liked the first 5 episodes but thought it completely fell apart and dropped the ball in the last two. Haven’t rewatched it start to finish since first release because of how much I disliked the ending… Definitely a possibility for me to edit it in a way I’d like though! It’s a candidate for a future acbagel Legends edit for sure, but I might want to wait for Season 2 to come out first so I have a better picture of the grand scheme.

I think that works great in your scene edit! And I completely agree with your explanation post that it’s a powerful moment that should be included. I hope to see people start using this in their Andor edits in the future. Great work.

You could try just using Fiona Shaw’s delivery of the line where she says “F*** the Empire” in an interview with Variety. I’ve had it saved on my computer forever. Not sure if the tone of her delivery would work, but it’s worth trying since it’s an authentic delivery. Here ya go!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FDEE0U0ZL9hYIRSO032Jhdt3HGKuMmU6/view?usp=sharing

Made a mockup below adjusting Cad Bane’s color and head shape to closer resemble The Clone Wars… Should I spend approximitely the next month ONLY doing VFX to fix Cad Bane’s appearance?

TheDimitrios said:

One thing just came to me: Will the scene of Grogu seeing the space whales be in there? It is just so damn beautiful. ❤️

Yes! Love that scene too. It is now placed after Din picks up Grogu from Yavin for the reunion and flies en route to Mandalore for the final battle. It works SO well thematically there.

That’s an awesome first draft! Great ideas, so much can be done in a non-purist version of this film! Good work

Patali said:

So my wife and I watched, and we loved it! We were not bored at all. I have seen Boba Fett, but not season 3, and my wife hasn’t seen any of the series.

Awesome! I have been really looking forward to getting to show you guys specifically, because that’s such a unique position to be going in to see this content for the first time through my format.

When Paz stood up and gave his speech in support of Din, my wife got so excited. Same with seeing Grogu at the end, and the Mythosaur. My wife doesn’t know names of stuff, but she was like “That’s the animal their helmets are designed after!”

I thought this movie was the first time I felt the story delivered on the premise of “The Mandalorian”. This feels like the first fully focused Mandalorian story.
I asked her if the Mandoa was too much at all throughout the movie, and she said it was not.

Haha love that! I totally agree with what you mean about the premise and name of the show. I think it is actually a great pivot point for the series after the emotional personal journey for Din and Grogu, to now move into showing Mandalorians in general. Glad that theme carried through as I intended!

She couldn’t really give me specifics, but she did have feedback of “Parts felt a bit choppy.” Take that for what you will, maybe you can sus out what she means. She loved it overall.

I thought the pacing was excellent. The only minor nitpicks I have are, I don’t feel like Din would necessarily explain to Peli Motto that he is trying to redeem himself etc when asking for the droid that detect the toxicity or whatever it was.

If I were to guess, I’d say the “choppy” feeling probably leaked through from the cuts back and forth to the Nevarro pirate plotline. Those are the main transitions I still am not 100% happy with, as it’s a little jarring to leave the Mines and go there, but I tried experimenting with those scenes in SO many other places in the film and they were all worse. Definitely open to ideas here though!

Regarding Din, I do understand that. I thought it was somewhat in character because he was going around to everyone telling them about his failure and plan for redemption. Mandalorians aren’t shy about that stuff, they preach the religion so to speak. While reserved and focused to some degree, they are a blunt and honest culture.

The other thing is, I think the Mandoa works, my wife thought it was great. But I think if a line sounds great in basic/english, it should be considered to be swapped in for special circumstances. The one I’m thinking of is “Have you removed your helmet?” More that the actress’s delivery was really good on that, you could feel the weight of it. I am wondering, maybe she could say it in Mandoa first coming out of that conversation, but then the second time she says it in basic so the line really hits, that’s the one where the actress’s delivery really sells it. Idk if that’ll work but something for you to consider.

Good point! That’s a line that would make sense to transition back to basic anyway. Have that noted, thanks!

Otherwise, we really loved it. I told you in your chat, I was considering doing my own cuts of the series, which would essentially be like yours but cut in half. So your first 4 movies, would only be 2 in my version, which I’m still interested in. However, after watching this one, I might just leave your last movies 5 and 6 as is (depending on how 6 goes), because I thought this one was great! There wasn’t really anything major I wanted to cut.

Very cool man, thanks so much for sharing all of this. Can’t wait to show you Book 6 in the coming months! Production is going well, ~15% through the final review.

Edit: OH! I forgot our biggest want… WE WANT BOBA FETT!!! We love Boba. I hope his modern story is a significant part of your Book 6, can’t wait to see how you handle that material.

I give the people what they want. Trust me, Boba will be a huge focus in Book 6. His character deserves it.

AUREK said:

Su´cuy gar, Vode! I would love to have access to this project! Sound wonderful and would love to watch it someday!

Sent, hope you enjoy! Would love to hear any thoughts you have on any films in the saga edit

Thanks for the feedback everyone! Book 5 has been my most downloaded project by far, lots of requests for it coming in still. Appreciate everyone’s patience for the time it took me to get it right. Please let me know if you have positive or negative feedback that I can use on a future bug fix release!

I haven’t missed a beat and have been totally locked in on Book 6 since last week’s release. I needed to accomplish a few things for the Ragnar adoption ceremony for my new placement in The Way of Mandalore Book 6. It can’t lead to Ragnar’s abduction, Din Djarin needs to be there, the sound effects and soundtrack need replaced (the original was very underwhelming), the characters need to speak Mando’a, and Ragnar’s mouth movements need to match that Mando’a…

First draft looking pretty good I think! What do you all think? Any suggestions? Ideas?

https://youtu.be/IJegBwAcDSI

Thanks everyone! The film is now RELEASED, post here or DM if you’re interested in seeing.

I will be doing one final minor “touch-up” render after a couple weeks of feedback come in, so please leave your thoughts of what you thought did or didn’t work well in the film. Appreciate you all!

Book 6: Officially back in production.

Support from me too! The demo scenes were awesome, would definitely follow this project as you develop it more.

Hey everyone!

The wait is (mostly) over! After countless hours of editing, rendering, and maybe a little bit of crying over keyframes across the last year, I’m incredibly hyped to finally drop the TWO official trailers for my massive Mandalorian Re-Edit project:

✨ The Way of Mandalore Book 5: The Apostate ✨

This project completely reimagines the events surrounding BoBF & Mando S3, twisting the narrative, adding new VFX/SFX, and exploring what happens when Din and Grogu DON’T immediately reunite.

I’ve prepared two different looks:

🎬 Official Story Trailer: Get a feel for the new plot, the altered character arcs, and the overall cinematic vision of “The Apostate.”
[https://youtu.be/e9gyW7x5JAg?si=4fUB5MyrieExfAxh]

🚀 VFX/Feature Showcase Trailer: A closer look at the insane amount of new and enhanced visual & audio effects work that went into this beast!
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkCOwX9-WZ8]

Your support and anticipation have seriously kept me going on this! 🙏 Please head over to YouTube, check out BOTH trailers, drop a Like/Comment (it helps the algorithm!), and Sub if you haven’t already!

Let me know what you think! Can’t wait to hear your reactions to the film!

Full release of the edit is coming…

TOMORROW.

Ibic cuyir te Ara! (This is the Way!)

Looks really cool! I would love to see the change from The Alaskan Sandman unreleased edit where Sidious is the one who kills the younglings. At 2:14 in his trailer here

While I love the animation style and want to see more stories in this format, this feels a bit underwhelming again. Most of Tales of the Jedi was very good, Tales of the Empire I thought was almost complete garbage, and this just has me extremely neutral. Not sure how they’re landing on what characters/eras to focus on… But it seems very random and not in touch with what people want to see.

That said, if we get the Cad v Boba scene finished here, or they (somehow) provide a convincing reason Ventress is even alive right now, Ill take it.

beachedwhale said:

Have been watching out for this frequently and seriously looking forward to it! Have a marathon I’m holding out on specifically for these edits and can’t wait to see what you’ve put together, thought your previous 5 was brilliant and looking forward to seeing how you finalise it all

That’s so cool! I think these films function best for “marathon” rewatches for sure, you’re doing it right! I’ll be really interested to hear your thoughts being able to compare the initial Book 5 draft vs this one. Don’t worry, because the best parts of the previous Book 5 with Boba will now be in Book 6, and I think this one functions so well as it is now. Excited to share.

One of my favorite changes to Book 5 is placing Luke’s academy on Yavin IV instead of Ossus. While I love Ossus as a planet… Luke’s academy being there happens waaay too soon in the timeline here (compared to the EU). It feels authentic to me for this to be on Yavin instead. I’ll get some proper screenshots rendered soon, but if you want to watch me edit the VFX for that section, you can see that HERE!

vranir said:

Super excited for movies 5 and 6!

SAME.

Patali said:

We are ready for book 5!

5 is still on track to release this weekend…! 6 is probably 1-2 months out. Thanks for jumping into the streams, that’s been fun!

aGreatHumanBeing said:

I’ve not watched book 1-4 yet, but I’m still happy that number 5 is right around the corner!

(In my head but this one will be called Mando No. 5 (A Little bit of Grogu))

Nothing wrong with waiting for them all to be released first to start! If I were a fan and not the creator, that’s how I’d be watching these too. More accurate would be Mando No. 5 (A teeny tiny itsy bitsy bit of under 1 minute of Grogu). Book 6 will feature him a little more, but I want us as the viewer to feel like Din feels… Grogu just… isn’t here anymore.

Working through the very final pass right now, hope to get that VFX/feature trailer out within a couple days. Final touch ups are mostly flavor things like adding E-22 blaster sounds into the Night of a Thousand Tears scene, volume balancing all around, and a couple very minor plot points I want to adjust (for example, cutting Din’s mention of the N1 not having a droid port, because he gets R5 WAY sooner in my film compared to Disney’s, it feels odd for him to say that then be putting a droid in it a few minutes later) after watching it all on “the big screen” in my living room. I have a list of ~25 things I’m running through touching up, but it’s very very close… The first act feels SO different with all the Mando’a and Mandalorian history interjected throughout. Makes me feel like I’m back in the Camps on Dxun… It’s definitely got that old school EU vibe.

Ok… Back to work!